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A GREAT DEDATE JESUS IS GOD?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 8:02 am    Post subject: A GREAT DEDATE JESUS IS GOD? Reply with quote

A GREAT DEDATE JESUS IS GOD?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 7:19 pm    Post subject: Re: A GREAT DEDATE JESUS IS GOD? Reply with quote

Good morning Arah;


"arah" <arah1958@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:176fed81-ad98-409b-9b03-486a2386ff8f@p10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Quote:

A GREAT DEDATE JESUS IS GOD?

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=ahmad+deedat&hl=en&so=1&sitesearch=#hl=en&sitesearch=&q=is%20jesus%20god&src=2

"God provides a proven method to get God's compassion and mercy and that
is by following Jesus Christ."

To muslims, the above declaration is a contradiction. How can one
follow Jesus Christ when the majority of his teachings are in the Bible when
they are taught it has been corrupted?

Matthew 6:24
No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love
the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot
serve God and mammon.

Mark 8:27-31
31 ¶And Jesus went out, and his disciples, into the towns of Caesarea
Philippi: and by the way he asked his disciples, saying unto them, Whom do
men say that I am?
28 And they answered, John the Baptist: but some [say], Elias; and
others, One of the prophets.
29 And he saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Peter answereth
and saith unto him, Thou art the Christ.
30 And he charged them that they should tell no man of him.
31 ¶And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many
things, and be rejected of the elders, and [of] the chief priests, and
scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.

John 6:33
For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth
life unto the world.

John 6:39-40
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he
hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the
last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth
the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise
him up at the last day.

John 20:25-31
25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord.
But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the
nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand
into his side, I will not believe.
26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with
them: [then] came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and
said, Peace [be] unto you.
27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands;
and reach hither thy hand, and thrust [it] into my side: and be not
faithless, but believing.
28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast
believed: blessed [are] they that have not seen, and [yet] have believed.
30¶ And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his
disciples, which are not written in this book:
31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ,
the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Cheers,
John
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:45 am    Post subject: Re: A GREAT DEDATE JESUS IS GOD? Reply with quote

In article <48d657ea$0$9695$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net>, "John Fraser"
<jfraser@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:

Quote:
Good morning Arah;


"arah" <arah1958@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:176fed81-ad98-409b-9b03-486a2386ff8f@p10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

A GREAT DEDATE JESUS IS GOD?


http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=ahmad+deedat&hl=en&so=1&sitesearch=#hl=en&sitesearch=&q=is%20jesus%20god&src=2

"God provides a proven method to get God's compassion and mercy and that
is by following Jesus Christ."

To muslims, the above declaration is a contradiction. How can one
follow Jesus Christ when the majority of his teachings are in the Bible when
they are taught it has been corrupted?

• Good point. Muhammad saw through the fallacy of post 3rd century

Christianity when he said.

---"Unbelievers in God are those who declare: God is the Messiah, the son
of Mary."
--- Qur¹an 5:15

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:23 pm    Post subject: Re: A GREAT DEDATE JESUS IS GOD? Reply with quote

On Sep 21, 4:02 am, arah <arah1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
A GREAT DEDATE JESUS IS GOD?

There is no dedate maybe a debate then only to them that do not accept

Jesus as Lord and God and are lost and not a believer, so you can
debate till Jesus comes again and only a lost person would not accept
Jesus is God as well as man.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:21 am    Post subject: Re: A GREAT DEDATE JESUS IS GOD? Reply with quote

On Sep 22, 6:50 pm, r...@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:
Quote:
In article
564475f0-01fe-4a17-b331-c4efb0969...@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,

Raymond <rwkn...@aim.com> wrote:
On Sep 21, 4:02=A0am, arah <arah1...@gmail.com> wrote:
A GREAT DEDATE JESUS IS GOD?

There is no dedate maybe a debate then only to them that do not accept
Jesus as Lord and God and are lost and not a believer, so you can
debate till Jesus comes again and only a lost person would not accept
Jesus is God as well as man.

**  Jesus said that he does not know when the End will come.

I would think that is a good thing, He is leaving that up to us, if
were good maybe it will come later or early, then do you know when
your end will come? Why would you want to know? I am glad that the
end is not planned otherwise there would be no need to do anything
good or bad, as it is a closed thing. Since even God has not planned
the day and time, we have hope for the best and we can live for
tomorrow. If you knew what would happen tomorrow, what would you do,
if you knew what numbers won the lottery tomorrow and you could get it
today would you, since your whole way of living would be changed, when
you won the millions of dollars?

Raymond
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:50 am    Post subject: Re: A GREAT DEDATE JESUS IS GOD? Reply with quote

In article
<564475f0-01fe-4a17-b331-c4efb096962f@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
Raymond <rwknapp@aim.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Sep 21, 4:02=A0am, arah <arah1...@gmail.com> wrote:
A GREAT DEDATE JESUS IS GOD?

There is no dedate maybe a debate then only to them that do not accept
Jesus as Lord and God and are lost and not a believer, so you can
debate till Jesus comes again and only a lost person would not accept
Jesus is God as well as man.

** Jesus said that he does not know when the End will come.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:03 pm    Post subject: Re: A GREAT DEDATE JESUS IS GOD? Reply with quote

In article
<d3490c84-0862-4dbf-bc38-7e3e8d6131c2@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
Raymond <rwknapp@aim.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Sep 22, 6:50=A0pm, r...@somis.org (=95R. L. Measures) wrote:
In article
564475f0-01fe-4a17-b331-c4efb0969...@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,

Raymond <rwkn...@aim.com> wrote:
On Sep 21, 4:02=3DA0am, arah <arah1...@gmail.com> wrote:
A GREAT DEDATE JESUS IS GOD?

There is no dedate maybe a debate then only to them that do not accept
Jesus as Lord and God and are lost and not a believer, so you can
debate till Jesus comes again and only a lost person would not accept
Jesus is God as well as man.

**...Jesus said that he does not know when the End will come.

I would think that is a good thing, He is leaving that up to us,

** So humans get to decide when the End will come?

Quote:
if
were good maybe it will come later or early, then do you know when
your end will come? Why would you want to know?

** Did I say that I wanted to know?

Quote:
I am glad that the
end is not planned otherwise there would be no need to do anything
good or bad, as it is a closed thing. Since even God has not planned
the day and time,

** Jesus said that he did not know when but that only the heaveenly
Father knew.

Quote:
we have hope for the best and we can live for
tomorrow. If you knew what would happen tomorrow, what would you do,

** buy or sell oil futures?

Quote:

if you knew what numbers won the lottery tomorrow and you could get it
today would you, since your whole way of living would be changed, when
you won the millions of dollars?

Raymond

** History tells us that half of those who win Superlottos end up with
supergrief.
cheerz Raymond

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:34 am    Post subject: Re: A GREAT DEDATE JESUS IS GOD? Reply with quote

On Sep 23, 3:03 am, r...@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:
Quote:
In article
d3490c84-0862-4dbf-bc38-7e3e8d613...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,

Raymond <rwkn...@aim.com> wrote:
On Sep 21, 4:02=3DA0am, arah <arah1...@gmail.com> wrote:
A GREAT DEDATE JESUS IS GOD?

There is no dedate maybe a debate then only to them that do not accept
Jesus as Lord and God and are lost and not a believer, so you can
debate till Jesus comes again and only a lost person would not accept
Jesus is God as well as man.

**...Jesus said that he does not know when the End will come.

I would think that is a good thing, He is leaving that up to us,

**  So humans get to decide when the End will come?

They can decide what ever they want to, it does not mean they are
correct. I decide when to stop eating, does not mean I never will
eat again, unless I decide to end my own life and then that act would
make it happen, I sure I would never eat a meal again.


Quote:

if
were good maybe it will come later or early, then do you know when
your end will come?  Why would you want to know?

**  Did I say that I wanted to know?

I am glad that the
end is not planned otherwise there would be no need to do anything
good or bad, as it is a closed thing.  Since even God has not planned
the day and time,

**  Jesus said that he did not know when but that only the heaveenly
Father knew.

So Jesus as a human man born of Mary has no reason to know or want to
know, since He is also God and the fullness of the Godhead dwells in
Him, he choose not to know or look it up for the time being. I may
not know if I will get paid this week or next or if the company will
close and I may not get paid at all. But I can ask for my money that
I worked for and hope I get it. I do not know when but I do know if I
can, I will get my paycheck if the company can pay it.

Quote:

we have hope for the best and we can live for
tomorrow.  If you knew what would happen tomorrow, what would you do,

**  buy or sell oil futures?

I buy CDs and use the money market, got some bonds and understand at
this time it is a good buy. Futures and such, I leave that up to my
broker.


Quote:
if you knew what numbers won the lottery tomorrow and you could get it
today would you, since your whole way of living would be changed, when
you won the millions of dollars?

Raymond

** History tells us that half of those who win Superlottos end up with
supergrief.  
cheerz Raymond

Could be true, I just because I do not know, does not mean it will not
be so.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:42 pm    Post subject: Re: A GREAT DEDATE JESUS IS GOD? Reply with quote

In article
<2ac6cc23-66d3-4ddd-84b5-e79e271af7dd@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, Raymond
<rwknapp@aim.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Sep 23, 3:03=A0am, r...@somis.org (=95R. L. Measures) wrote:
In article
d3490c84-0862-4dbf-bc38-7e3e8d613...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,

Raymond <rwkn...@aim.com> wrote:
On Sep 21, 4:02=3D3DA0am, arah <arah1...@gmail.com> wrote:
A GREAT DEDATE JESUS IS GOD?

There is no dedate maybe a debate then only to them that do not acc=
ept
Jesus as Lord and God and are lost and not a believer, so you can
debate till Jesus comes again and only a lost person would not acce=
pt
Jesus is God as well as man.

**...Jesus said that he does not know when the End will come.

I would think that is a good thing, He is leaving that up to us,

** =A0So humans get to decide when the End will come?

They can decide what ever they want to, it does not mean they are
correct. I decide when to stop eating, does not mean I never will
eat again, unless I decide to end my own life and then that act would
make it happen, I sure I would never eat a meal again.

• Have you ever visited a See's Candy store?
Quote:



if
were good maybe it will come later or early, then do you know when
your end will come? =A0Why would you want to know?

** =A0Did I say that I wanted to know?

I am glad that the
end is not planned otherwise there would be no need to do anything
good or bad, as it is a closed thing. =A0Since even God has not planned
the day and time,

** =A0Jesus said that he did not know when but that only the heaveenly
Father knew.

So Jesus as a human man born of Mary has no reason to know or want to
know, since He is also God and the fullness of the Godhead dwells in
Him, he choose not to know or look it up for the time being. I may
not know if I will get paid this week or next or if the company will
close and I may not get paid at all. But I can ask for my money that
I worked for and hope I get it. I do not know when but I do know if I
can, I will get my paycheck if the company can pay it.


we have hope for the best and we can live for
tomorrow. =A0If you knew what would happen tomorrow, what would you do,

** =A0buy or sell oil futures?

I buy CDs and use the money market, got some bonds and understand at
this time it is a good buy. Futures and such, I leave that up to my
broker.


if you knew what numbers won the lottery tomorrow and you could get it
today would you, since your whole way of living would be changed, when
you won the millions of dollars?

Raymond

** History tells us that half of those who win Superlottos end up with
supergrief. =A0
cheerz Raymond

Could be true, I just because I do not know, does not mean it will not
be so.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:49 am    Post subject: Re: A GREAT DEDATE JESUS IS GOD? Reply with quote

On Sep 25, 6:42 am, r...@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:
Quote:
In article
2ac6cc23-66d3-4ddd-84b5-e79e271af...@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, Raymond





rwkn...@aim.com> wrote:
On Sep 23, 3:03=A0am, r...@somis.org (=95R. L. Measures) wrote:
In article
d3490c84-0862-4dbf-bc38-7e3e8d613...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,

Raymond <rwkn...@aim.com> wrote:
On Sep 21, 4:02=3D3DA0am, arah <arah1...@gmail.com> wrote:
A GREAT DEDATE JESUS IS GOD?

There is no dedate maybe a debate then only to them that do not acc> > ept
Jesus as Lord and God and are lost and not a believer, so you can
debate till Jesus comes again and only a lost person would not acce> > pt
Jesus is God as well as man.

**...Jesus said that he does not know when the End will come.

I would think that is a good thing, He is leaving that up to us,

** =A0So humans get to decide when the End will come?

They can decide what ever they want to, it does not mean they are
correct.   I decide when to stop eating, does not mean I never will
eat again, unless I decide to end my own life and then that act would
make it happen, I sure I would never eat a meal again.

•  Have you ever visited a See's Candy store?

Why do you ask, I am sure someone here can give you the address of
one?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:12 am    Post subject: Re: A GREAT DEDATE JESUS IS GOD? Reply with quote

Raymond wrote:

"....So Jesus as a human man born of Mary has no reason to know or
want to
know, since He is also God and the fullness of the Godhead dwells in
Him, he choose not to know or look it up for the time being....."

Raymond, who to explain Num 23:19

Num 23:19 God [is] not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of
man, that he should repent: "

Isn't that contradicted with your believe?

On Sep 25, 11:34 am, Raymond <rwkn...@aim.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Sep 23, 3:03 am, r...@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:



In article
d3490c84-0862-4dbf-bc38-7e3e8d613...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,

Raymond <rwkn...@aim.com> wrote:
On Sep 21, 4:02=3DA0am, arah <arah1...@gmail.com> wrote:
A GREAT DEDATE JESUS IS GOD?

There is no dedate maybe a debate then only to them that do not accept
Jesus as Lord and God and are lost and not a believer, so you can
debate till Jesus comes again and only a lost person would not accept
Jesus is God as well as man.

**...Jesus said that he does not know when the End will come.

I would think that is a good thing, He is leaving that up to us,

**  So humans get to decide when the End will come?

They can decide what ever they want to, it does not mean they are
correct.   I decide when to stop eating, does not mean I never will
eat again, unless I decide to end my own life and then that act would
make it happen, I sure I would never eat a meal again.



if
were good maybe it will come later or early, then do you know when
your end will come?  Why would you want to know?

**  Did I say that I wanted to know?

I am glad that the
end is not planned otherwise there would be no need to do anything
good or bad, as it is a closed thing.  Since even God has not planned
the day and time,

**  Jesus said that he did not know when but that only the heaveenly
Father knew.

So Jesus as a human man born of Mary has no reason to know or want to
know, since He is also God and the fullness of the Godhead dwells in
Him, he choose not to know or look it up for the time being.  I may
not know if I will get paid this week or next or if the company will
close and I may not get paid at all.  But I can ask for my money that
I worked for and hope I get it.  I do not know when but I do know if I
can, I will get my paycheck if the company can pay it.



we have hope for the best and we can live for
tomorrow.  If you knew what would happen tomorrow, what would you do,

**  buy or sell oil futures?

I buy CDs and use the money market, got some bonds and understand at
this time it is a good buy.  Futures and such, I leave that up to my
broker.

if you knew what numbers won the lottery tomorrow and you could get it
today would you, since your whole way of living would be changed, when
you won the millions of dollars?

Raymond

** History tells us that half of those who win Superlottos end up with
supergrief.  
cheerz Raymond

Could be true, I just because I do not know, does not mean it will not
be so.



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:06 pm    Post subject: Re: A GREAT DEDATE JESUS IS GOD? Reply with quote

In article
<50381e3a-4e63-45b4-bf34-e25809c2813b@g17g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
Raymond <rwknapp@aim.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Sep 25, 6:42=A0am, r...@somis.org (=95R. L. Measures) wrote:
In article
2ac6cc23-66d3-4ddd-84b5-e79e271af...@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, Raymon=
d





rwkn...@aim.com> wrote:
On Sep 23, 3:03=3DA0am, r...@somis.org (=3D95R. L. Measures) wrote:
In article
d3490c84-0862-4dbf-bc38-7e3e8d613...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,

Raymond <rwkn...@aim.com> wrote:
On Sep 21, 4:02=3D3D3DA0am, arah <arah1...@gmail.com> wrote:
A GREAT DEDATE JESUS IS GOD?

There is no dedate maybe a debate then only to them that do not=
acc=3D
ept
Jesus as Lord and God and are lost and not a believer, so you c=
an
debate till Jesus comes again and only a lost person would not =
acce=3D
pt
Jesus is God as well as man.

**...Jesus said that he does not know when the End will come.

I would think that is a good thing, He is leaving that up to us,

** =3DA0So humans get to decide when the End will come?

They can decide what ever they want to, it does not mean they are
correct. =A0 I decide when to stop eating, does not mean I never will
eat again, unless I decide to end my own life and then that act would
make it happen, I sure I would never eat a meal again.

=95 =A0Have you ever visited a See's Candy store?

Why do you ask,.

** There is probably a no more reasonable justification for ending a fast
than a See's temptation. Opium addicts would stomp through a fied of
poppies to get to a 1-pounder box of See's candy.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: A GREAT DEDATE JESUS IS GOD? Reply with quote

On Sep 26, 7:06 am, r...@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:
Quote:
In article
50381e3a-4e63-45b4-bf34-e25809c28...@g17g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,





Raymond <rwkn...@aim.com> wrote:
On Sep 25, 6:42=A0am, r...@somis.org (=95R. L. Measures) wrote:
In article
2ac6cc23-66d3-4ddd-84b5-e79e271af...@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, Raymon> > d

rwkn...@aim.com> wrote:
On Sep 23, 3:03=3DA0am, r...@somis.org (=3D95R. L. Measures) wrote:
In article
d3490c84-0862-4dbf-bc38-7e3e8d613...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,

Raymond <rwkn...@aim.com> wrote:
On Sep 21, 4:02=3D3D3DA0am, arah <arah1...@gmail.com> wrote:
A GREAT DEDATE JESUS IS GOD?

There is no dedate maybe a debate then only to them that do not> >  acc=3D
ept
Jesus as Lord and God and are lost and not a believer, so you c> > an
debate till Jesus comes again and only a lost person would not > > acce=3D
pt
Jesus is God as well as man.

**...Jesus said that he does not know when the End will come.

I would think that is a good thing, He is leaving that up to us,

** =3DA0So humans get to decide when the End will come?

They can decide what ever they want to, it does not mean they are
correct. =A0 I decide when to stop eating, does not mean I never will
eat again, unless I decide to end my own life and then that act would
make it happen, I sure I would never eat a meal again.

=95 =A0Have you ever visited a See's Candy store?

Why do you ask,.

**  There is probably a no more reasonable justification for ending a fast
than a See's temptation.   Opium addicts would stomp through a fied of
poppies to get to a 1-pounder box of See's candy.

Well I can not have sugar so such means nothing to me. Then like
opium ,some people like to Fast and do what God wants. Your answer
only shows them you know are weak people.


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On Sep 26, 6:31 pm, r...@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:
Quote:
In article
8e571308-fc4f-41f8-b0c3-1972aecd4...@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,





Raymond <rwkn...@aim.com> wrote:
On Sep 26, 7:06=A0am, r...@somis.org (=95R. L. Measures) wrote:
In article
50381e3a-4e63-45b4-bf34-e25809c28...@g17g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,

Raymond <rwkn...@aim.com> wrote:
On Sep 25, 6:42=3DA0am, r...@somis.org (=3D95R. L. Measures) wrote:
In article
2ac6cc23-66d3-4ddd-84b5-e79e271af...@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, Ra> > ymon=3D
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On Sep 23, 3:03=3D3DA0am, r...@somis.org (=3D3D95R. L. Measures) wr> > ote:
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Raymond <rwkn...@aim.com> wrote:
On Sep 21, 4:02=3D3D3D3DA0am, arah <arah1...@gmail.com> wro> > te:
A GREAT DEDATE JESUS IS GOD?

There is no dedate maybe a debate then only to them that do> >  not=3D
=A0acc=3D3D
ept
Jesus as Lord and God and are lost and not a believer, so y> > ou c=3D
an
debate till Jesus comes again and only a lost person would > > not =3D
acce=3D3D
pt
Jesus is God as well as man.

**...Jesus said that he does not know when the End will come.

I would think that is a good thing, He is leaving that up to us> > ,

** =3D3DA0So humans get to decide when the End will come?

They can decide what ever they want to, it does not mean they are
correct. =3DA0 I decide when to stop eating, does not mean I never > > will
eat again, unless I decide to end my own life and then that act wou> > ld
make it happen, I sure I would never eat a meal again.

=3D95 =3DA0Have you ever visited a See's Candy store?

Why do you ask,.

** =A0There is probably a no more reasonable justification for ending a f> > ast
than a See's temptation. =A0 Opium addicts would stomp through a fied of
poppies to get to a 1-pounder box of See's candy.

Well I can not have sugar so such means nothing to me.  

**  You can't have fruit?

SUGAR = "A white crystalline carbohydrate used as a sweetener and
preservative"

Fruit = "The ripened reproductive body of a seed plant"

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Then like
opium ,some people like to Fast and do what God wants.  Your answer
only shows them you know are weak people.

**  humans are that.

Not the normal ones.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 3:16 am    Post subject: Re: A GREAT DEDATE JESUS IS GOD? Reply with quote

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<8e571308-fc4f-41f8-b0c3-1972aecd48d8@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
Raymond <rwknapp@aim.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Sep 26, 7:06=A0am, r...@somis.org (=95R. L. Measures) wrote:
In article
50381e3a-4e63-45b4-bf34-e25809c28...@g17g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,





Raymond <rwkn...@aim.com> wrote:
On Sep 25, 6:42=3DA0am, r...@somis.org (=3D95R. L. Measures) wrote:
In article
2ac6cc23-66d3-4ddd-84b5-e79e271af...@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, Ra=
ymon=3D
d

rwkn...@aim.com> wrote:
On Sep 23, 3:03=3D3DA0am, r...@somis.org (=3D3D95R. L. Measures) wr=
ote:
In article
d3490c84-0862-4dbf-bc38-7e3e8d613...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.co=
m>,

Raymond <rwkn...@aim.com> wrote:
On Sep 21, 4:02=3D3D3D3DA0am, arah <arah1...@gmail.com> wro=
te:
A GREAT DEDATE JESUS IS GOD?

There is no dedate maybe a debate then only to them that do=
not=3D
=A0acc=3D3D
ept
Jesus as Lord and God and are lost and not a believer, so y=
ou c=3D
an
debate till Jesus comes again and only a lost person would =
not =3D
acce=3D3D
pt
Jesus is God as well as man.

**...Jesus said that he does not know when the End will come.

I would think that is a good thing, He is leaving that up to us=
,

** =3D3DA0So humans get to decide when the End will come?

They can decide what ever they want to, it does not mean they are
correct. =3DA0 I decide when to stop eating, does not mean I never =
will
eat again, unless I decide to end my own life and then that act wou=
ld
make it happen, I sure I would never eat a meal again.

=3D95 =3DA0Have you ever visited a See's Candy store?

Why do you ask,.

** =A0There is probably a no more reasonable justification for ending a f=
ast
than a See's temptation. =A0 Opium addicts would stomp through a fied of
poppies to get to a 1-pounder box of See's candy.

Well I can not have sugar so such means nothing to me.

** You can't have fruit?

Quote:
Then like
opium ,some people like to Fast and do what God wants. Your answer
only shows them you know are weak people.

** humans are that.


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