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a.r.c.a. - stooge heaven
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Harold Kupp
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 2:19 am    Post subject: a.r.c.a. - stooge heaven Reply with quote

A stooge is "one who acts unquestioningly at the
dictation of another".

There are stooges in this group who are
unwittingly following the dictation of Satan.
From the beginning of time Satan's trick has been to
convince men that they can continue to disobey the
commandments of God and still have eternal life.

Just as The Serpent said to Eve..."Ye shall not surely die"
the three stooges preach that Christians who do not cease
from willful sin will still receive eternal life.

That pleasing lie is the foundation of every
false religion. For example, those who teach
re-incarnation are saying: "You will not die".
When one knows what to look for, this same
scheme is easily seen in most denominations of
the modern Christian church.

The Calvinist version of The Great Lie is based
upon the concept that some are chosen by God to
be saved and thus no matter what commandments
they choose to break, they 'shall not surely
die.".

The Lutheran twist is that Jesus has "paid it
all" and by believing in that doctrine, no
matter how many sins one commits, he "shall not
surely die."

Roman Catholicism is more subtle. They say that
one must keep the commandments of God, but if
you break them (they say) you may confess that
sin to the priest and "ye shall not surely die".

In each of the examples above, the doctrine is
designed to remove the fear of God from those
who continue to disobey the commandments of
God.

It worked with Eve, and it works wonderfully
well today. Yet God made it easy to see Satan's
scheme - if anyone offers a system by which you
can break God's commandments and still receive
eternal life - they are echoing the Serpent's
words...

** "Ye shall not surely die" **

Satan's plan is to remove the fear of God
because the "fear of God is the beginning of
wisdom, and by it men depart from evil." Remove
the fear of God and there is no need to depart
from evil. The Christian need only "sin less".

The stooges joyfully claim that Christians
all sin and cannot cease from sin. For example
Ronald Walker preaches:

Quote:
Christians, true Christians, fall, they sin --
their lifestyles should not be characteristic
of constant, unrestrained sinning, but they may
occasionally (or slightly more than occasionally)
fall and sin.

The stooges love this doctrine, and anybody who
agrees with it, because it removes the fear of God's
condemnation from their hearts.

The Great Lie of Satan can easily be detected
as Ronald echoes the Serpent's words...

Quote:
While I believe that, as well develop our
relationship with the Lord, we will sin less,
I believe it is pure presumption to believe
that I, or anyone, including Donna, will ever
reach a point, when we will never sin again.
As a matter of fact, until the Second Coming,
none of us can reach that level of perfection:

Can you hear the hiss of the Serpent? If you
"sin less" ye shall not surely die.

However, Ellen White says:

"We are not to continue in sin that grace may
abound; we are to CEASE from
transgression....When we have a proper
appreciation of the sacrifice that has been made
in our behalf, we shall not plead for the
privilege of continuing in transgression. We
shall put away sin,..."
{ST, October 28, 1889 par. 3}


If Christians cannot cease from sin as Ronald
yeaches, why would Mrs. White say:

"...we are to *CEASE* FROM TRANSGRESSION."

Cease from transgression. Period! Not "sin
less" not "cease from constant unrestrained
sinning" - CEASE!

It is obvious that in her mind "cease from
transgression" was the opposite of "continue in
sin". Yet, Ronald and his fellow stooges say that
Christians cannot cease from sin.

On the contrary, Mrs. White emphatically states
that Christians who deceive themselves by
thinking they can continue in willful sin will
not enter the Eden of God...

"Many deceive themselves in thinking that they
can continue in sin, and transgress God's holy
law, and yet claim Christ as their Saviour.
.....No man who is enlightened by the law of God,
and yet who REFUSES TO OBEY THAT LAW, will ever
enter the Eden of God; for he would create a
second rebellion in heaven."
{RH, October 15, 1895 par. 1}

Are those who continue in sin the servant of
Satan? Yes, according to Mrs White:

"They cry. "The grace of Christ! we are not saved by works,
but by Christ;" but they continue in sin,--continue to
transgress the law of God. They act as though they
considered it their privilege to live in sin that grace may
abound. But every indulgence in sin weakens the soul; it
welcomes Satan to come in and control the mind, making the
individual his effectual servant." {ST, March 27, 1884 par. 6}

Without a doubt Mrs. White would reject the
Adventist stooges of Satan and all those who claim
"the grace of Christ" yet continue to sin
wilfully. Why don't you...

HK


Rev 12:17
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make
war with the remnant of her seed, which **keep the
commandments of God, **and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
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Lamarr Edwards
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 2:30 am    Post subject: Re: a.r.c.a. - stooge heaven Reply with quote

harold - You are a proven, willful liar.

Does that make you a stooge ?

Only if you believe you can be forgiven for your lies.

If you aren't a stooge, then harold, you are hell bent, with no way out.

Which is it harold ? Or will you just tell another lie ? LE
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