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 Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:06 pm Post subject: Abortion, Porn, Gay Church state issues |
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David Fisher <humanist@[delete] wrote:
Abortion, Pornography and Gays are all church-state issues. The past
government of Australia had a Catholic Minister of Health who did his
best to keep the morning-after pill off the market. Some feminist wit
said "Keep your rosaries off my ovaries."
Those against abortion mourn the loss of unborn Beethovens and
Einsteins - never unborn Hitlers.
Influenced by his puritanical religion In 1873 Anthony Comstock
created the New York Society for the Suppression of Vice dedicated to
supervising the morality of the public. Comstock successfully
influenced the United States Congress to pass the Comstock Law, which
made illegal the delivery or transportation of both "obscene, lewd,
or lascivious" material as well as any methods of, or information
pertaining to, birth control. Comstock thought of George Bernard Shaw
as an "Irish smut dealer".
Comstock's ideas of what might be "obscene, lewd, or lascivious" were
quite broad. During his time of greatest power, even some anatomy
textbooks were prohibited from being sent to medical students by the
United States Postal Service. Comstock aroused intense loathing from
early civil liberties groups and intense support from church based
groups worried about public morals.
Ida Craddock committed suicide on the eve of reporting to Federal
prison for distributing via the U.S. Mail various sexually explicit
marriage manuals she had authored. Her final work was a lengthy
public suicide note specifically condemning Comstock.
During his career, Comstock clashed with Emma Goldman and Margaret
Sanger. In her autobiography, Goldman referred to Comstock as the
leader of America's "moral eunuchs". Through his various campaigns,
he destroyed 15 tons of books, 284,000 pounds of plates for printing
'objectionable' books, and nearly 4,000,000 pictures. Comstock
boasted that he was responsible for 4,000 arrests and 15 suicides.
I used the law against pornography to stop junk mailing. When I was
living in the United States I got mailings from J. C. Penney. I asked
them to stop, but the mailings continued. At the time there was a
federal law against pornography (it may still exist) where
pornography is what appears pornographic to the recipient. I got a
cease and desist order against J. C. Penney for sending me a brochure
with a picture of men and women holding each other and dancing to the
records Penney was selling. Told the postmaster it looked obscene to
me. When I got further mailings from them I turned the material over
to the postmaster as evidence that J. C. Penney violated a federal
order. I got an agitated call from a man who identified himself as a
J. C. Penney vice-president asking me to withdraw my complaint. I
would not be moved. and let the majestic course of US law fulfill its
noble purpose.
Although fundamentalist Christians get incensed about gays some have
contributed to Christianity in philosophy, theology and art. Examples
are Plato, Leonardo Da Vinci, Deasiderius Erasmus and Michelangelo.
Possibly Jesus and Paul could be added. Note the picture of the
attendees at the last supper which was supposedly a seder. I have
been to many seders, and there were always women present. Thirteen
guys sitting around a table does not look like a genuine seder to me.
I do not have the wisdom to decide what others should see, read or
think about, and I want nobody else to decide that for me.
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You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS ˇ Historical Reality SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
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.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
.. . .
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USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote
"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
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THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
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