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 Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:35 pm Post subject: Re: @Matt |
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On Aug 19, 2:23 pm, john w <j<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
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You have "considerable knowledge" on no subjects, John. Not even
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:11 pm Post subject: Re: @Matt |
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On Aug 20, 7:23 am, john w <j<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
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On Aug 14, 8:36 am, Matt . <trdell1...@nospamgmail.com > wrote:
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:33:04 -0700 (PDT), roym...@gmail.com wrote:
On Aug 14, 1:58 am, " ::: good news runner :::" <veral...@lycos.com
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Innews:s516a4hesinem2vsl9bpm4p2pli4vlpv6d@4ax.com,
Matt . <trdell1...@nospamgmail.com > typed:
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 05:14:57 +0200, " ::: good news runner :::"
veral...@lycos.com> wrote:
Innews:fnm4a4ttn3q90qguk49op2jnk2ca5f4skr@4ax.com,
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On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 00:54:35 GMT, psalmsmith <psalmsm....@nc.rr.com
wrote:
In article <_9qok.20524$QX3.7...@newsfe02.iad>,
"Chuck Stamford" <shell-stamf...@cox.net> wrote:
"psalmsmith" <psalmsm...@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
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In article <2ymok.20362$QX3.10...@newsfe02.iad>,
"Chuck Stamford" <shell-stamf...@cox.net> wrote:
He seems to want to establish himself as some sort of authority
in and of himself, for each time anyone questions his authority
to say something, he
treats them as if they have failed somehow to understand the
situation, or
have attacked him in some fashion, or have simply failed in
their faith, as
if they were supposed to believe in him. This obvious attitude,
coupled with his very casual relationship with the truth in his
factual statements,
makes me very nervous about him.
Wow, Chuck, that may well be the worse case of projection I have
ever encountered.
Would you like me to ask for a poll of the group, to ask everyone
in ACC, ACB, and ARCB; whether it is you or I who actually best
fit the description in your above paragraph? ;-)
Of course, you already know what the results of said poll will
be...
Sure I do, but then the truth isn't determined by taking polls as
to what it is. All that poll would do is show who is more
interested in denouncing me than in the truth of what I've said.
You have behaved in exactly the manner I described above, and if
need be, I can sift through your posts of the last week to
demonstrate each and every aspect of that description. If you
were not so intent on establishing yourself as I've suggested
above, perhaps you would be more interested in correcting those
flaws in yourself I've cited above, rather than foisting them on
me with some sort of Peewee Hermanesque "I know you are, but what
am I" retort.
ROFL! how ironic... :::rolleyes:::
Every one knows Chuck is a Liar.
That is not the case.
In my opinion he does not serve
Christ.
Now you are getting weird... If you do not like people, you claim
they do not serve Christ, or are of Satan and the like - the same
things that you and your funny friends say about me - while you do
them. lol
I do not claim to have the gift of discerning spirits as you do Vera.
So why are you trying it anyway?
On gift of discerning spirits: my contact within the AoG, here, said
that this gift was exercised only to appraise the spirits behind
what was uttered thru tongues or prophesy.
Without my prompting, he said that it was never used to judge a
person's standing before the Lord, nor any other purpose or occasion.
Nowadays, he says, they don't use those gifts as they disrupt their
assemblies. These gifts were common up to the 80's but have since
fallen into disuse.
Thank you Roy
No worries. That sorta explains why I don't come across it in the
churches around me.
However, it doesn't stop the Spirit blessing a congregation with it
"as it wills"; and such gifts are always "for the common good".
^ ^ ^ ^ ^^ There is no "gift of tongues" today as you describe
it.
What you are talking about is called "glossolalia." Nonsense noise
people make because they think they're supposed to, or because evil
spirits (demons) are at work.
If "tongues" are REAL today, I'd LOVE for you to take me to a church
where it's happening; I'd like to SEE it in practice for myself.
Can't help you there. I haven't seen or heard about it for a while in
my neck of the woods.
Then you need to stop talking about a very controversial topic, when
you don't have PERSONAL knowledge.
You keep on asking for evidence of tongues in practice. I keep on
saying I know not any.
You continue to either miss or side-step THE POINT. If you don't
know of any real situations in which "tongues" are in use, you should
stop claiming it's real.
You have been corrected MULTIPLE times on this, yet you still spread
ERROR.
You know, you WILL be judged for that!
AFAIK the Spirit dispenses as He wills for the common good.
I have showed you REPEATEDLY that there are no signs today.
I have said, "if there are signs, show me."
You can't, yet NOW you obviously LIE and say, "they exist."
If they exist, show me.
I don't know any in my part of the world;
I am done arguing about it with you. I have considerable knowledge
on the subject; you have ZERO knowledge, ...
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I'm impressed on the knowledge of the ch scene in my country. I
haven't heard of most of the names of people and churches you've
mentioned for the US. Copeland Ministries is the only one I've heard
since they broadcast on free to air television at some ungodly hour at
5 AM or such.
| Quote: | ...so there is truly no point in
you and me discussing it.
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That's fine by me. No ill feeling.
| Quote: | You may as well be proclaiming that you believe in pink elephants.
You have never personally seen a pink elephant, but "you know they
are real."
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That gifts have ceased according to 1Cor13: the commentaries I have
all convey that these gifts serves us in this present age until the
end of the age (vis-a-vis Fee, Barrett, Witherington III).
Cheers.
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Ridiculous.
john w
however the Spirit dispenses
" as He wills" (1Cor12:7) " for the common good" (1Cor12:11) and " God
arranged the members in the body, each one of them, as he chose
" (1Cor12:1 .
If they don't exist (you can't find them) you are teaching falsely.
Is this saying that the gifts in 1Cor12 have all ceased or we have no
body or Christ?
Every member of the body has a place and none are to be despised since
all are indispensable -
" As it is, there are many parts, yet one body. The eye cannot say to
the hand, "I have no need of you," nor again the head to the feet, "I
have no need of you." On the contrary, the parts of the body that
seem to be weaker are indispensable " (1Cor12:20-22ff).
Cheers.
john w
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On Aug 20, 5:46 am, john w <j<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
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I've never been a sign seeker.
^ ^ ^ ^^ smirk. You claim you don't "seek signs", yet you argue
for them in all the wrong places!
I've never argued for them at all.
You, Roy, are a liar and an instigator.
I haven't mentioned them nor
introduced them in the thread (except for reporting prophesy and
tongues in light of discernment).
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ And you DISCONNECT. What you just said ^ ^ ^is PRECISELY
the "interest" I am talking about.
Discernment, as is practiced TODAY, has NOTHING to do with signs,
OTHER than to tell us "they're not real."
Then you go off, talking about the churches you'd see signs in. You
won't see them in the churches discussed.
And we're right back to,
you don't know what the HELL you are talking about, but you'll
"express your opinion."
Which is worthless in light of SCRIPTURE.
The AoG, the Foursquare, the WoF! Where the phonies and lunatics
hang out.
And I didn't "seek signs", dummy! I was minding my own business when
the signs appeared.
I've said before, I haven't seen these things for about 20 years.
I've said before, from what you've said, you have never seen signs.
Period.
I
could safely say it's not my scene. And certainly would not say I go
out of my way to find them.
I was surprised, but I noted the signs. (it helps a GREAT deal if
you know the Bible)
I then mentioned those signs to other, thinking they may have missed
it.
They thanked me.
The FACT that you didn't bother to THANK me for mentioning that, or
that you didn't ask me "when?" and "where?"
My apologies. I wasn't thinking of going down the route about the
Sun and Moon.
"Oh good grief!" Why am I bothering? You aren't even giving me
appropriate responses or comments.
SNIP
But when you did mention them, I was reminded of the tribulation Jesus
spoke in Mat 24:29ff "Immediately after the tribulation of those days
the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and
the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be
shaken. Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and
then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son
of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory".
Which means we are somewhere between the tribulation and the
appearance of our Lord.
Tells me what I've long suspected.
1 you're insincere
2 you're shallow
3 you're a phony
A REAL, SINCERE Christian would be beside himself with EXCITEMENT
that End Times prophesies were being fulfilled before our very eyes..
On prophesy and end-times: I usually take Heb 1:1-2 as my text;
prefering to focus on our Lord than the unfolding sequence of events.
We were TOLD to WATCH for the REAL signs.
I told you about several real signs, hoping you'd ask for more
detail.
In light of Mat 12:39, I wonder if that is a worthwhile endeavour.
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I.e. the sign other than that given by Jesus.
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Jesus said " ... an evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign,
but no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.
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And Paul wrote " ... Jews demand signs and Greeks seek wisdom, but we
preach Christ crucified' (1Co 1:22-23).
Cheers.
Thanks. I have now established publicly that you're a liar and a
manipulator.
Neither brings glory to our Lord.
And I didn't say, " I went looking for signs."
I said, I saw them. I was "out and around in the world", minding my
own business, when I saw a sign.
I have since told people about it.
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Thanks for that info. Did others see them, too, when these signs
appeared?
Cheers.
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You yawned.
" Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers
by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his
Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he
created the world."
You show no excitement; you're not truly "one of us."
No worries. I'll let you draw your own conclusions.
I'm sure God has "drawn His own conclusions as well."
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:20 pm Post subject: Re: John D Weatherly of Seattle Washington is delusional |
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On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 06:05:44 -0700, john w <j<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
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john w <j wrote:
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On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 04:48:26 -0700, john w <j<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
^ ^ ^^ (my lie for the week)
So you admit you're a liar.
Ah! Anonymous COWARD is back!
Who would that be?
"Anonymous Coward" is YOU, stupid.
I doubt if even one person in here knows who you actually are, like
your stooge, drooling buddy, "ujb."
ujb knows, sweet sweet knows all...
You don't know "poo poo", retard. You have no clue how deep a
hole you're digging yourself with your ridiculous behavior in here!
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:21 pm Post subject: Re: John D Weatherly of Seattle Washington is delusional |
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:50:26 -0700, john w <j<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
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I am SUCH a stupid, illiterate, psychotic little toad!
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:22 pm Post subject: Re: * ARE HOMOSEXUAL ACTS WRONG IF THEY'RE IN LOVE? * |
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On Aug 19, 6:06 pm, Al Smith <inva...@address.com> wrote:
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On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 14:21:32 GMT, "BRUCE" <blimeyTE...@StruthNO.com
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"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote in message
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***SNIP***
Dude
Homosexuals are the new hate of the relgious right now that their past hates
of blacks and Asians are not acceptable. They now appeal to the predigous of
some to fire up against homosexuals
That is not accurate; homosexuals have been percecuted by Christianity
for centuries. Of course, then non-christians also strongly opposed
homosexuality. Aside from a relitively short time when Plato's insane
ideas festered in Greco-Roman culture, homosexuality has been hated by
most human cultures. Even many people who do not support percecuting
homosexuals are repulsed by the sight of two men kissing. many who
would never think of persecuting homosexuals know that it is
ridiculous for homosexuals to pretend to get married since marriage is
a religious institution and God forbids homosexual sex. Homosexuals
may be an easy target for hate mongers, but that does not mean that
homosexual sex is not wrong/evil. Homosexual sex is forbidden by God.
You really can't get around that just by pointing out the fact that
some christians don't seem to care about their own sins like adultery,
murder, idolatry, et cetera. I don't know if Dave was just hate
mongering. I honestly saw no reason to read his entire post when the
answer to the subject question is so simple: homosexual sex is always
an evil action.
All of human history indicates that homosexuality is not only a
perversion, but a perversion that has been almost universally
condemned. The tolerance of homosexuality in the modern West is a
very disturbing indicator of the quickening decline and decadence of
Western society.
-Al-
Biology argues against homosexuality as well, as it serves no purpose
whereas heterosexuality perpetuates the species. I don't hate
homosexuals though, and physical attacks on them should be labeled
'hate crimes' with the attendant harsher penalties, and discrimination
against them in matters of work, health, housing, etc. should be
illegal - criminally and civilly.
I just saw on the TV news how a doctor (pediatrician) had just lost a
lawsuit brought against him because he refused to treat a child who
had two 'moms' i.e. two homosexual women who acted as the child's
parents. Maybe 60 days in the county jail would be more persuasive
than just a lawsuit initiated at the expense of the people he
victimized.
Yes, you're right, biology is against the perpetuation of
homosexuality. Strangely enough, it has not died out, but seems to
have remained relatively constant as a percentage of the population
(although people squabble as to just what that percentage may be).
It is a puzzle how what is obviously counterproductive in a real
sense would continue to be perpetuated. The answer may be that
something else -- something useful -- is tied to homosexuality, and
when we get that useful thing, whatever it may be, we are forced,
genetically, to take homosexuality along with it.
I'm against any malice towards any homosexual, purely on the basis
of his or her homosexuality. Not only physical abuse and violence,
but also verbal abuse and intimidation of any kind, are to be
deplored. It's not the way good people behave. It is not Christian.
It's not polite to give someone a hard time over their sexuality.
On the other hand, I see no reason why homosexuality should be
actively supported by governments, the media, schools, or any other
official or semi-official institution or group.
-Al-
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But I've known people whose homosexuality is obviously from their
hormones being out of whack, men with real high voices, etc., so
although it's unproductive biologically, it is a common condition.
They used to label it a psychiatric condition and decided it was not
caused by any mental disorder, but that it was caused by too many of
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:29 pm Post subject: Re: @Matt |
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:37:54 +0200, " ::: good news runner :::"
<veralein@lycos.com> wrote:
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Matt . <trdell1234@nospamgmail.com > typed:
Well I guess
Correct!
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Hi Vera Dearest. Ouch another hanger
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:09 pm Post subject: Re: @Matt |
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| Quote: | On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:37:54 +0200, " ::: good news runner :::"
veralein@lycos.com> wrote:
In news:5drla4l8mktgf1v2065qftlho5cqpj9ub6@4ax.com,
Matt . <trdell1234@nospamgmail.com > typed:
Well I guess
Correct!
Hi Vera Dearest. Ouch another hanger
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You say hangers and I keep invisioning the cat-of-nine tails being used with
each lie used against you and others not to mention the way you and others
are referred to as unclean and called names.
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"My brothers, if one of you should wander from
the truth and someone should bring him back,
remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the
error of his way will save him from death and
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"Matt ." <trdell1234@nospamgmail.com > wrote in message
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:37:54 +0200, " ::: good news runner :::"
veralein@lycos.com> wrote:
In news:5drla4l8mktgf1v2065qftlho5cqpj9ub6@4ax.com,
Matt . <trdell1234@nospamgmail.com > typed:
Well I guess
Correct!
Hi Vera Dearest. Ouch another hanger
Get well, Matt!
Galia Thank you
How did you know I had a slight cold?
Matt
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Now that was funny. I don't care who ya are LOL.
Matt I needed that smile  |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:22 pm Post subject: Re: @Matt |
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In news:6h0gngFi077fU1@mid.individual.net,
Diana <shechinah7@reborn.com> typed:
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"Matt ." <trdell1234@nospamgmail.com > wrote in message
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:37:54 +0200, " ::: good news runner :::"
veralein@lycos.com> wrote:
In news:5drla4l8mktgf1v2065qftlho5cqpj9ub6@4ax.com,
Matt . <trdell1234@nospamgmail.com > typed:
Well I guess
Correct!
Hi Vera Dearest. Ouch another hanger
You say hangers and I keep invisioning the cat-of-nine tails being
used with each lie used against you and others not to mention the way
you and others are referred to as unclean and called names.
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Pinocchio, you can claim as many lies as fit into 24 days --- it does
not make them true.
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"My brothers, if one of you should wander from
the truth and someone should bring him back,
remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the
error of his way will save him from death and
cover over a multitude of sins."
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| Quote: | On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:37:54 +0200, " ::: good news runner :::"
veralein@lycos.com> wrote:
In news:5drla4l8mktgf1v2065qftlho5cqpj9ub6@4ax.com,
Matt . <trdell1234@nospamgmail.com > typed:
Well I guess
Correct!
Hi Vera Dearest. Ouch another hanger
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"Matt ." <trdell1234@nospamgmail.com > wrote in message
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:37:54 +0200, " ::: good news runner :::"
veralein@lycos.com> wrote:
In news:5drla4l8mktgf1v2065qftlho5cqpj9ub6@4ax.com,
Matt . <trdell1234@nospamgmail.com > typed:
Well I guess
Correct!
Hi Vera Dearest. Ouch another hanger
Get well, Matt!
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How did you know I had a slight cold?
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"Matt ." <trdell1234@nospamgmail.com > wrote in message
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:37:54 +0200, " ::: good news runner :::"
veralein@lycos.com> wrote:
In news:5drla4l8mktgf1v2065qftlho5cqpj9ub6@4ax.com,
Matt . <trdell1234@nospamgmail.com > typed:
Well I guess
Correct!
Hi Vera Dearest. Ouch another hanger
You say hangers and I keep invisioning the cat-of-nine tails being used with
each lie used against you and others not to mention the way you and others
are referred to as unclean and called names.
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It is from the movie mommie dearest the wire hanger scene. I picture
Vera going from post to post looking for the slightest thing to attack
and then out comes the wire hanger. She seems to think we need to
please and obey her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KNVZXkucm0
I like this it reminds me of Vera being Vera and everyone laughing.
God Bless
Matt
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"My brothers, if one of you should wander from
the truth and someone should bring him back,
remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the
error of his way will save him from death and
cover over a multitude of sins."
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"My brothers, if one of you should wander from
the truth and someone should bring him back,
remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the
error of his way will save him from death and
cover over a multitude of sins." |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:02 am Post subject: Re: but I've lost contact |
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On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:29:29 -0700 (PDT), roymock@gmail.com wrote:
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On Aug 19, 5:19 am, john w <j<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
x-no-archive: yesOn Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:54:23 -0700 (PDT), roym...@gmail.com wrote:
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I've never been a sign seeker.
^ ^ ^ ^^ smirk. You claim you don't "seek signs", yet you argue
for them in all the wrong places!
I've never argued for them at all.
You, Roy, are a liar and an instigator.
I haven't mentioned them nor
introduced them in the thread (except for reporting prophesy and
tongues in light of discernment).
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ And you DISCONNECT. What you just said ^ ^ ^is PRECISELY
the "interest" I am talking about.
Discernment, as is practiced TODAY, has NOTHING to do with signs,
OTHER than to tell us "they're not real."
Then you go off, talking about the churches you'd see signs in. You
won't see them in the churches discussed.
And we're right back to,
you don't know what the HELL you are talking about, but you'll
"express your opinion."
Which is worthless in light of SCRIPTURE.
The AoG, the Foursquare, the WoF! Where the phonies and lunatics
hang out.
And I didn't "seek signs", dummy! I was minding my own business when
the signs appeared.
I've said before, I haven't seen these things for about 20 years.
I've said before, from what you've said, you have never seen signs.
Period.
I
could safely say it's not my scene. And certainly would not say I go
out of my way to find them.
I was surprised, but I noted the signs. (it helps a GREAT deal if
you know the Bible)
I then mentioned those signs to other, thinking they may have missed
it.
They thanked me.
The FACT that you didn't bother to THANK me for mentioning that, or
that you didn't ask me "when?" and "where?"
My apologies. I wasn't thinking of going down the route about the
Sun and Moon.
"Oh good grief!" Why am I bothering? You aren't even giving me
appropriate responses or comments.
SNIP
But when you did mention them, I was reminded of the tribulation Jesus
spoke in Mat 24:29ff "Immediately after the tribulation of those days
the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and
the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be
shaken. Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and
then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son
of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory".
Which means we are somewhere between the tribulation and the
appearance of our Lord.
Tells me what I've long suspected.
1 you're insincere
2 you're shallow
3 you're a phony
A REAL, SINCERE Christian would be beside himself with EXCITEMENT
that End Times prophesies were being fulfilled before our very eyes.
On prophesy and end-times: I usually take Heb 1:1-2 as my text;
prefering to focus on our Lord than the unfolding sequence of events.
We were TOLD to WATCH for the REAL signs.
I told you about several real signs, hoping you'd ask for more
detail.
In light of Mat 12:39, I wonder if that is a worthwhile endeavour.
Jesus said " ... an evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign,
but no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.
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And Paul wrote " ... Jews demand signs and Greeks seek wisdom, but we
preach Christ crucified' (1Co 1:22-23).
Cheers.
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Thanks. I have now established publicly that you're a liar and a
manipulator.
Neither brings glory to our Lord.
And I didn't say, " I went looking for signs."
I said, I saw them. I was "out and around in the world", minding my
own business, when I saw a sign.
I have since told people about it.
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You yawned.
" Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers
by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his
Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he
created the world."
You show no excitement; you're not truly "one of us."
No worries. I'll let you draw your own conclusions.
I'm sure God has "drawn His own conclusions as well."
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:02 am Post subject: Re: @Matt |
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On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 21:22:18 -0400, "Scout Lady"
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"<Kelly>" <316kcbk@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5b67a984-6300-446f-9c25-fe3551a9f46c@r15g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
Says you, oh John-god Weatherly, man of the size 7 shoe? (or is it one
is size 7 and the other size 6?)
He added the 6 to the 7 to come up with his claim of wearing a size 13 LOL.
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And I haven't had anyone (particularly not FEMALE) talk about my
penis size since ... high school?
tsk tsk.
As I have said to others, "it gets the job done." And my "size 7
feet " get me where I need to go.
Catty! Un-Christian! gossip!
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