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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:30 am Post subject: Christ had a body after His resurrection! |
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On Jul 21, 7:10 pm, Darrick <darrick_even...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Chapter 3. Christ was possessed of a body after His resurrection
For I know that after His resurrection also He was still possessed of
flesh, and I believe that He is so now. When, for instance, He came to
those who were with Peter, He said to them, Lay hold, handle Me, and
see that I am not an incorporeal spirit. And immediately they touched
Him, and believed, being convinced both by His flesh and spirit. For
this cause also they despised death, and were found its conquerors.
And after his resurrection He did eat and drink with them, as being
possessed of flesh, although spiritually He was united to the Father.
Chapter 4. Beware of these heretics
I give you these instructions, beloved, assured that you also hold the
same opinions [as I do]. But I guard you beforehand from those beasts
in the shape of men, whom you must not only not receive, but, if it be
possible, not even meet with; only you must pray to God for them, if
by any means they may be brought to repentance, which, however, will
be very difficult. Yet Jesus Christ, who is our true life, has the
power of [effecting] this. But if these things were done by our Lord
only in appearance, then am I also only in appearance bound. And why
have I also surrendered myself to death, to fire, to the sword, to the
wild beasts? But, [in fact,] he who is near to the sword is near to
God; he that is among the wild beasts is in company with God; provided
only he be so in the name of Jesus Christ. I undergo all these things
that I may suffer together with Him, Romans 8:17 He who became a
perfect man inwardly strengthening me. Philippians 4:13
The Epistle of Ignatius to the Smyrnaeans
http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0109.htm
IGNATIUS OF ANTIOCH
BISHOP AND MARTYR (17 OCT 107)
After the Apostles, Ignatius was the second bishop of Antioch in
Syria. His predecessor, of whom little is known, was named Euodius.
Whether he knew any of the Apostles directly is uncertain. Little is
known of his life except for the very end of it. Early in the second
century (perhaps around 107 AD, during the reign of the Emperor
Trajan), he was arrested by the Imperial authorities, condemned to
death, and transported to Rome to die in the arena. By thus dealing
with a leader, the rulers hoped to terrify the rank and file. Instead,
Ignatius took the opportunity to encourage them, speaking to groups of
Christians at every town along the way. When the prison escort reached
the west coast of Asia Minor, it halted before taking ship, and
delegations from several Asian churches were able to visit Ignatius,
to speak with him at length, to assist him with items for his journey,
and to bid him an affectionate farewell and commend him to the grace
of God. In response he wrote seven letters that have been preserved:
five to congregations that had greeted him, en masse or by delegates
(Ephesians, Magnesians, Trallians, Philadelphians, and Smyrnaeans),
one to the congregation that would greet him at his destination
(Romans), and one to Polycarp, Bishop of Smyrna and disciple of the
Apostle John.
His letters are available in several modern translations. Perhaps
the most accessible is the Penguin Paperback, Early Christian
Writings, translated by Maxwell Staniforth. The themes with which he
is chiefly concerned are (1) the importance of maintaining Christian
unity in love and sound doctrine (with warnings against factionalism
and against the heresy of Docetism -- the belief that Christ was not
fully human and did not have a material body or really suffer and
die), (2) the role of the clergy as a focus of Christian unity, (3)
Christian martyrdom as a glorious privilege, eagerly to be grasped.
He writes:
I am God's wheat, ground fine by the lion's teeth to be made purest
bread for Christ.
No early pleasures, no kingdoms of this world can benefit me in any
way. I prefer death in Christ Jesus to power over the farthest limits
of the earth. He who died in place of us is the one object of my
quest. He who rose for our sakes is my one desire. The time for my
birth is close at hand. Forgive me, my brothers. Do not stand in the
way of my birth to real life; do not wish me stillborn. My desire is
to belong to God. Do not, then, hand me back to the world. do not try
to tempt me with material things. Let me attain pure light. Only on my
arrival there can I be fully a human being. Give me the privilege of
imitating the passion of my God.
by James Kiefer
http://satucket.com/lectionary/Ignatius_Antioch.htm |
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Smurf
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:35 am Post subject: Re: Christ had a body after His resurrection! |
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On Jul 23, 6:02 pm, fr...@skeptictank.org (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
| Quote: | "jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com" <jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com> wrote:
On Jul 21, 7:10=A0pm, Darrick <darrick_even...@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://kardec.angelfire.com
Chapter 3. Christ was possessed of a body after His resurrection
Which then fucked a bunch of little boys up their asses. We know.
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I'm curious.. when Christ dropped his body, where did the thetans run
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Fredric L. Rice
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:02 am Post subject: Re: Christ had a body after His resurrection! |
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"jwsheffield@satx.rr.com" <jwsheffield@satx.rr.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Jul 21, 7:10=A0pm, Darrick <darrick_even...@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://kardec.angelfire.com
Chapter 3. Christ was possessed of a body after His resurrection
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Which then fucked a bunch of little boys up their asses. We know.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5W8ALB0SNU
Insane woman verbally assaults 2 little girls |
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Fredric L. Rice
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject: Re: Christ had a body after His resurrection! |
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Smurf <Miscavige.Sucks.Dick@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Jul 23, 6:02=A0pm, fr...@skeptictank.org (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
"jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com" <jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com> wrote:
On Jul 21, 7:10=3DA0pm, Darrick <darrick_even...@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://kardec.angelfire.com
Chapter 3. Christ was possessed of a body after His resurrection
Which then fucked a bunch of little boys up their asses. =A0We know.
I'm curious.. when Christ dropped his body, where did the thetans run off to?
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Presumably they re-infected all of the Hebrewic Jews who were collected
around the tree from which the mythos was hung.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5W8ALB0SNU
Insane woman verbally assaults 2 little girls |
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jwsheffield@satx.rr.com
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:38 am Post subject: Re: Christ had a body after His resurrection! |
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Who Moved the Stone? (Paperback)
by Frank Morison (Author)
Product Description
The author began to write this book with the intention of disproving
the Resurrection but found instead that the evidence supported the
biblical story. This recognized classic is an examination of his
research and the evidence he found.
From the Back Cover
"I owe Morison a great debt of gratitude. Who Moved the Stone? was an
important early link in a long chain of evidence that God used to
bring me into his kingdom. Morisons stirring intellectual exploration
of the historical record proved to be an excellent starting point for
my spiritual investigation." --From the foreword by Lee Strobel
English journalist Frank Morison had a tremendous drive to learn of
Christ. The strangeness of the Resurrection story had captured his
attention, and, influenced by skeptic thinkers at the turn of the
century, he set out to prove that the story of Christs Resurrection
was only a myth. His probings, however, led him to discover the
validity of the biblical record in a moving, personal way.
Who Moved the Stone? is considered by many to be a classic apologetic
on the subject of the Resurrection. Morison includes a vivid and
poignant account of Christs betrayal, trial, and death as a backdrop
to his retelling of the climactic Resurrection itself. Among the
chapter titles are:
* The Book That Refused to Be Written
* The Real Case Against the Prisoner
* What Happened Before Midnight on Thursday
* Between Sunset and Dawn
* The Witness of the Great Stone
* Some Realities of That Far-off Morning
Who Moved the Stone? is a well-researched book that is as fascinating
in its appeal to reason as it is accurate to the truthfulness of the
Resurrection.
http://www.amazon.com/Who-Moved-Stone-Frank-Morison/dp/0310295610 |
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Jonathon Barbera
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:09 am Post subject: Re: Christ had a body after His resurrection! |
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:23:03 GMT, frice@skeptictank.org (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:
| Quote: | Smurf <Miscavige.Sucks.Dick@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 23, 6:02=A0pm, fr...@skeptictank.org (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
"jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com" <jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com> wrote:
On Jul 21, 7:10=3DA0pm, Darrick <darrick_even...@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://kardec.angelfire.com
Chapter 3. Christ was possessed of a body after His resurrection
Which then fucked a bunch of little boys up their asses. =A0We know.
I'm curious.. when Christ dropped his body, where did the thetans run off to?
Presumably they re-infected all of the Hebrewic Jews who were collected
around the tree from which the mythos was hung.
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Hence the eating of the body and the drinking of the blood. |
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Jonathon Barbera
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:28 pm Post subject: Re: Christ had a body after His resurrection! |
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:38:44 -0700 (PDT), "jwsheffield@satx.rr.com"
<jwsheffield@satx.rr.com> wrote:
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More than likely (odds in favor) it was these guys who moved that
stone:
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24070088-13762,00.html
FORMER NASA astronaut and moon-walker Dr Edgar Mitchell - a veteran of
the Apollo 14 mission - has stunningly claimed aliens exist.
And he says extra-terrestrials have visited Earth on several occasions
- but the alien contact has been repeatedly covered up by governments
for six decades.
Dr Mitchell, 77, said during a radio interview that sources at the
space agency who had had contact with aliens described the beings as
'little people who look strange to us.'
He said supposedly real-life ET's were similar to the traditional
image of a small frame, large eyes and head.
Chillingly, he claimed our technology is "not nearly as sophisticated"
as theirs and "had they been hostile", he warned "we would be been
gone by now".
Dr Mitchell, along with with Apollo 14 commander Alan Shepard, holds
the record for the longest ever moon walk, at nine hours and 17
minutes following their 1971 mission.
"I happen to have been privileged enough to be in on the fact that
we've been visited on this planet and the UFO phenomena is real," Dr
Mitchell said.
"It's been well covered up by all our governments for the last 60
years or so, but slowly it's leaked out and some of us have been
privileged to have been briefed on some of it.
"I've been in military and intelligence circles, who know that beneath
the surface of what has been public knowledge, yes - we have been
visited. Reading the papers recently, it's been happening quite a
bit."
Dr Mitchell, who has a Bachelor of Science degree in aeronautical
engineering and a Doctor of Science degree in Aeronautics and
Astronautics claimed Roswell was real and similar alien visits
continue to be investigated.
He told the astonished Kerrang! radio host Nick Margerrison: "This is
really starting to open up. I think we're headed for real disclosure
and some serious organisations are moving in that direction."
Mr Margerrison said: "I thought I'd stumbled on some sort of astronaut
humour but he was absolutely serious that aliens are definitely out
there and there's no debating it." |
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Fredric L. Rice
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:42 pm Post subject: Re: Christ had a body after His resurrection! |
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Jonathon Barbera <jonathonbarbera@ispname.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:23:03 GMT, frice@skeptictank.org (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
Smurf <Miscavige.Sucks.Dick@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 23, 6:02=A0pm, fr...@skeptictank.org (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
"jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com" <jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com> wrote:
On Jul 21, 7:10=3DA0pm, Darrick <darrick_even...@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://kardec.angelfire.com
Chapter 3. Christ was possessed of a body after His resurrection
Which then fucked a bunch of little boys up their asses. =A0We know.
I'm curious.. when Christ dropped his body, where did the thetans run off to?
Presumably they re-infected all of the Hebrewic Jews who were collected
around the tree from which the mythos was hung.
Hence the eating of the body and the drinking of the blood.
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To try to re-capture all them Body Thetans flying around, yep.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5W8ALB0SNU
Insane woman verbally assaults 2 little girls |
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jwsheffield@satx.rr.com
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:44 pm Post subject: Re: Christ had a body after His resurrection! |
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The New Evidence That Demands A Verdict Fully Updated To Answer The
Questions Challenging Christians Today (Hardcover)
by Josh McDowell (Author)
181 of 214 people found the following review helpful:
Packed Full of Solid Evidences for the Christian Faith, February 29,
2000
By T. B. Vick "Learn 2 Discern" (The Lone Star State)
This review is from: The New Evidence That Demands A Verdict Fully
Updated To Answer The Questions Challenging Christians Today
(Hardcover)
I was fortunate and blessed to be one of the researchers and writers
for this edition of Josh McDowell's "Evidence that Demands a Verdict."
While the final editors made some significant changes in certain areas
of the book (i.e. approach, format, and some content), overall the
content is still quite thorough and the structure still fairly easy to
use. This book is a battery of evidences for the claims of the
Christian Faith. If evidence for Christianity is what you are wanting,
then this is the book for you. The contents of this book range from
the authenticity of biblical texts, the deity of Jesus, higher
biblical criticism (i.e. the Jesus Seminar, documentary hypothesis,
etc.), and historical skepticism, to the nature of truth, the
knowability of truth, and the knowability of history. Other areas of
special interest for the Christian apologists are postmodernism,
skepticism, agnosticism, and mysticism and how to answer each of these
worldviews in light of the truths of Christianity. Furthermore, there
is a chapter on defending miracles and the historical reliability of
the Bible. If you have been wanting a book that contains a storehouse
of evidences and references to others in history who have defended the
Christian faith, then this is one of the best single volume books
available.
http://www.amazon.com/Evidence-Demands-Questions-Challenging-Christians/dp/0785243631 |
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Jonathon Barbera
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:22 pm Post subject: Re: Christ had a body after His resurrection! |
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:42:57 GMT, frice@skeptictank.org (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:
| Quote: | Jonathon Barbera <jonathonbarbera@ispname.net> wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:23:03 GMT, frice@skeptictank.org (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
Smurf <Miscavige.Sucks.Dick@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 23, 6:02=A0pm, fr...@skeptictank.org (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
"jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com" <jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com> wrote:
On Jul 21, 7:10=3DA0pm, Darrick <darrick_even...@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://kardec.angelfire.com
Chapter 3. Christ was possessed of a body after His resurrection
Which then fucked a bunch of little boys up their asses. =A0We know.
I'm curious.. when Christ dropped his body, where did the thetans run off to?
Presumably they re-infected all of the Hebrewic Jews who were collected
around the tree from which the mythos was hung.
Hence the eating of the body and the drinking of the blood.
To try to re-capture all them Body Thetans flying around, yep.
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I recall several passages in the gospels where Jesus casts these
"unclean spirits" out of other people. Did Jesus have his own unclean
spirits or was he spiritually advanced to the point where he no longer
had them? (Any Christians know the answer?) |
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Fredric L. Rice
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:17 pm Post subject: Re: Christ had a body after His resurrection! |
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Jonathon Barbera <jonathonbarbera@ispname.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:42:57 GMT, frice@skeptictank.org (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
To try to re-capture all them Body Thetans flying around, yep.
I recall several passages in the gospels where Jesus casts these
"unclean spirits" out of other people. Did Jesus have his own unclean
spirits or was he spiritually advanced to the point where he no longer
had them? (Any Christians know the answer?)
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Yeah, and did Wonder Woman's magic airplane have to run on gasoline?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5W8ALB0SNU
Insane woman verbally assaults 2 little girls |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 4:19 am Post subject: Re: Christ had a body after His resurrection! |
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Case for Christ--Student Edition, The (Hardcover)
by Lee Strobel (Author), Jane Vogel (Contributor)
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A student edition of Lee Strobels prize-winning The Case for Christ,
created by the same writers, Strobel and Jane Vogel, who produced the
popular The Case for Faith--Student Edition.
From the Back Cover
Who Was Jesus?
A good man? A lunatic? God?
Theres little question that he actually lived. But miracles? Rising
from the dead? Some of the stories you hear about him sound like just
that--stories. A reasonable person would never believe them, let alone
the claim that hes the only way to God!
But a reasonable person would also make sure that he or she understood
the facts before jumping to conclusions. Thats why Lee Strobel--an
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about Jesus tumbling down like a house of cards.
He was in for the surprise of his life. Join him as he retraces his
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The facts are in. What will your verdict be in The Case for Christ?
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:42 pm Post subject: Re: Christ had a body after His resurrection! |
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On 1 ago, 16:57, Jonathon Barbera <jonathonbarb...@ispname.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:17:53 GMT, fr...@skeptictank.org (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:
Jonathon Barbera <jonathonbarb...@ispname.net> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:42:57 GMT, fr...@skeptictank.org (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
To try to re-capture all them Body Thetans flying around, yep.
I recall several passages in the gospels where Jesus casts these
"unclean spirits" out of other people. Did Jesus have his own unclean
spirits or was he spiritually advanced to the point where he no longer
had them? (Any Christians know the answer?)
Yeah, and did Wonder Woman's magic airplane have to run on gasoline?
(No one answered, so I'm breaking it down for lurkers who want to
offer a guess.)
Wonder Woman = Jesus (as a spiritual being)
magic airplane = Jesus' body
gasoline = "unclean spirits"
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Not that by any means am I qualified to answer this, but here's my
guess.
Making the assumption that unclean spirits refers to possession, I'm
basing this on the fact that the catholic church still has rituals for
exorcism. It seems improbable
that a demonic being could actually take possession of the son of
god. Since Jesus technically is God in human form, right? |
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Jonathon Barbera
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 2:57 am Post subject: Re: Christ had a body after His resurrection! |
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On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:17:53 GMT, frice@skeptictank.org (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:
| Quote: | Jonathon Barbera <jonathonbarbera@ispname.net> wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:42:57 GMT, frice@skeptictank.org (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
To try to re-capture all them Body Thetans flying around, yep.
I recall several passages in the gospels where Jesus casts these
"unclean spirits" out of other people. Did Jesus have his own unclean
spirits or was he spiritually advanced to the point where he no longer
had them? (Any Christians know the answer?)
Yeah, and did Wonder Woman's magic airplane have to run on gasoline?
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(No one answered, so I'm breaking it down for lurkers who want to
offer a guess.)
Wonder Woman = Jesus (as a spiritual being)
magic airplane = Jesus' body
gasoline = "unclean spirits" |
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