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 Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 8:01 am Post subject: Re: Any druids in Wales |
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"Dafydd Monks" wrote
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- and your appearance sure confused me for a moment, because
we already have a David Monks from Ireland!
(though he doesn't show up very often anymore)
Welcome, Dafydd
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| Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:48 pm Post subject: Re: Any druids in Wales |
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"Dafydd Monks" <dafydd.monks@dragondesigns.org.uk> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Hey, I'm welsh and I live in Wales.
So am I, so do I. |
Whereabouts are you?
golwg
Matthew
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TD.
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They won't be moved back to Wales - [....]
Bored, Kev?
Very!
:-D
[sorry... was out, about & offline for a week]
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 6:04 am Post subject: Re: Any druids in Wales |
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I'm in North-west Wales - not far from Bangor, on the start of the Llyn
penninsular. Whereabouts are you?
TD/Dafydd.
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| Quote: | "Dafydd Monks" <dafydd.monks@dragondesigns.org.uk> wrote in message
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Hey, I'm welsh and I live in Wales.
So am I, so do I.
Whereabouts are you?
golwg
Matthew
TD.
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They won't be moved back to Wales - [....]
Bored, Kev?
Very!
:-D
[sorry... was out, about & offline for a week]
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 6:54 am Post subject: Re: Any druids in Wales |
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"Dafydd Monks" <dafydd.monks@dragondesigns.org.uk> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I'm in North-west Wales - not far from Bangor, on the start of the Llyn
penninsular. Whereabouts are you?
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Down on the Gower peninsula, near Swansea.
golwg
Matthew
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TD/Dafydd.
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Hey, I'm welsh and I live in Wales.
So am I, so do I.
Whereabouts are you?
golwg
Matthew
TD.
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"Kevin Jones" wrote
They won't be moved back to Wales - [....]
Bored, Kev?
Very!
:-D
[sorry... was out, about & offline for a week]
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vic bonds
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| Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 5:21 am Post subject: Re: Garry Denke's Ark of the Covenant below Stonehenge Heels |
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Dear one,
about ark,
a good question,
there are many kinds of arks observed..
ufo wise, there is the cigar ship'
of which one ark crimson was downed in 92
in nov.24.
It is a chi blood ark of the messianic type
that Gabriel drives himself..
When it fell, the whole of heaven fell..with Him..
and, we on long island have been re-cac-cading all over creation,
since!
Another ark that was fun for me was when Abraham come to town, to crash and
get
attacked by the Isreal psy police, of espionage for being too tall in esp
and seeing too good.
they did, strip both Abraham and I of all traces of our extra teranious
minds, and, left
only the Messianic Mind of God, the Prophet the Bab and Bahaullah. The Word.
fallible
but very powerful..He put an ark on my chest stomach, and, His, and, we
stayed that way
for at least two years..and, it was so powerful and exalted..to be with
him..Carlos castaneda
was there too and with dailai lama for the most part..
So, that is two accts of ark..there are other arks but those are the arks I
know..one is chi blood
the other is chi chips of white rain and such..that is innamable..and the
Exalted..
To talk about what I have been through is the Exalted Path of God the
Magnificent!
victory!
Kevin Jones wrote in message ...
| Quote: | "Garry Denke" <garrydenke@usa.com> wrote in message
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Garry Denke's Ark of the Covenant under Stonehenge Heelstone Wings
Hello Kevin,
As a matter of law, Garry Denke's ark of the covenant below Stonehenge
Heelstone wings, and Garry Denke's brasen altar inside Stonehenge
Barrow located 100 meters east-southeast of Garry Denke's ark of the
covenant, said Stonehenge Barrow containing Garry Denke's golden table
and Garry Denke's golden altar, including, but not limited to, all of
Garry Denke's personal property inside said Garry Denke's ark, altars,
and table; they are, as you have confirmed below; the exclusive
personal property of the original owner: Garry Denke.
Err - not quite under English law, unless you wish to argue that you,
personally are the original owner of the Ark of the Covenant - I presume
you
mean the Hebrew Ark - which would probably mean that you would have to be
the first high priest to use it, the guy who built it, or God.
Now here you would have a problem in law. Exodus predates the building of
the Ark. Now at the earliest Exodus would be about 1400-1500 BC, whilst the
latest date suggested is somewhere round 1290 BC; actually the evidence for
either date is meagre, though the upper date looks more convincing. That
means that you either have to argue that you are something like 3,500 years
old, or else it is a case of reincarnation. Now I rather doubt that the
courts would accept the argument that a belief in reincarnation establishes
your claim to any Arks found in England or Wales.
In any case since treasure is, in part, defined as being precious metal
artefacts over 300 years old, British law make the not unreasonable
presumption that the original owner is dead, and that the matter therefore
concerns his or her heirs, if heirs exist - the concept of property passing
from a deceased person to his or her reincarnation does not exist in
British
law. If it did, the Treasury would find some way of applying Capital Gains
Tax.
British law does *not* establish the heirs of the original owner as having
exclusive ownership of artefacts defined as 'treasure' - on the contrary,
it
establishes the Crown as having exclusive ownership, though it remarks that
the rights of the heirs are fully protected. Exactly what 'fully protected'
means would have to be fought out in a court of law, but it does not mean
that they own the treasure. The Crown may waive ownership - but that can
only be done by the Secretary of State.
The next problem is that no Ark has been found. The law does not have any
capacity to award ownership of artefacts that have not been found to
anyone,
let alone someone whose only claim to the non-existent artefacts is that he
remembers that they are there because he is the original owner of an
artefact that's 3000 years old. Such a claim would immediately be filed
under 'Funnies', along with letters written in green ink with lots of
underlining, and only pulled out for the amusement of new recruits. Mind
you, some poor sod might well be detailed off to write a courteous reply,
the gist of which would be "thank you for your interesting letter . . . we
do not feel that we can take this matter any further" Every official body
that deals with the general public has its file of Funnies.
Said personal
property of Garry Denke, described and identified above, were by law
remembered Kevin - in legal terms, neither 'found' nor 'discovered' -
only verified by Garry Denke's 1984 geophysical (already conducted)
confirmation of that remembered. In short, Garry Denke's personal
property was not 'found' or 'discovered' by Garry Denke's 1984
surveys, but remembered by Garry Denke.
That has no status in British law. A coroner can only deal with facts
deriving from a something solid, namely a dead body on a slab, or a piece
of
treasure that he can pick up and examine. He can't deal with things that
haven't been found or discovered, and he has no authority to do so. I could
say that I remembered being the original owner of the Crown jewels, but
nobody is going to let me have them on the basis of that. Courts only
recognise claims that can be supported by evidence.
Now you do have a problem in arguing that the Ark of the Covenant is buried
under the Heel Stone. Stonehenge was built in three major phases. The
stones
belong to Phase 3 (2600-1600 BC). In the earliest phase (2600 BC), a
crescent of bluestones was errected. This was followed about 500 years
later
by the sarsen stone circle, with tenoned joints, and the Heel Stone. The
henge reached its final shape in 1600 BC.
As mentioned above Exodus would be, at the earliest, about 1400-1500 BC,
whilst the latest date suggested is somewhere round 1290 BC. The Ark is
therefore no older that 1500 BC; it disappeared following the fall of
Jerusalem in 587 BC.
The Heel Stone was put in place somewhere around 2000-1800 BC, some 400-700
years before the earliest hypothetical date of Exodus and thus,
approximately 400-700 years before the Ark was built. The Heel Stone was
also in place some 1200-1400 years before the ark went missing.
Consequently
the one place that the Ark won't be is under the Heel Stone. Indeed,
anything under the Heel Stone will be earlier than the beginning of the
second millennium BC. At that date it may even predate the emergence of the
Hebrews as an identifiably separate people.
As to where the Ark went to - assuming anyone really cares - the best guess
is that it was taken by the victorious army that ransacked Jerusalem, as
stated in the Apocalypse of Esdras (IV Esd., x, 22). This is certainly most
possible; in IV Kings, xxv it is stated that the Babylonian troops carried
away from the temple whatever brass, silver, and gold they could lay their
hands upon.
Still Arks seem to be multiplying like mice these days. People are finding
them all over the place:
http://www.dccsa.com/greatjoy/ark.html
http://anchorstone.com/arkofcovenant.html
It is also variously supposed to be definitely under the Hill of Tara, in
Ethiopia, in Rosslyn Chapel (Scotland), under the Temple Mount, or else has
been hidden near Rennes-le-Chateau by the Templars and the Masons, who are
its current guardian.
Actually, they're all wrong - it's been in my garden shed for the last ten
years. My mother found it, back in the 50s, in some antique shop - she'd
only gone out for a pound of tea. She was never much interested in
demolishing cities and conquering neighbouring kings, so she just asked it
for the best time to plant the beans. Since it has come to me, I've found
it's quite useful as a toolbox. Since I'm doing a spot of conservation, I
don't mind the odd rain of frogs. I'll see if it can do newts next. They're
currently declining, so a rain of newts could be useful.
Kevin
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Kevin Jones
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| Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 4:25 am Post subject: Re: Garry Denke's Ark of the Covenant below Stonehenge Heels |
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Hi Vic - haven't seen you in a long time. How are you doing? Incidentally,
still got that photo you sent me years ago.
Kevin
"vic bonds" <vbonds@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Dear one,
about ark,
a good question,
there are many kinds of arks observed..
ufo wise, there is the cigar ship'
of which one ark crimson was downed in 92
in nov.24.
It is a chi blood ark of the messianic type
that Gabriel drives himself..
When it fell, the whole of heaven fell..with Him..
and, we on long island have been re-cac-cading all over creation,
since!
Another ark that was fun for me was when Abraham come to town, to crash
and
get
attacked by the Isreal psy police, of espionage for being too tall in esp
and seeing too good.
they did, strip both Abraham and I of all traces of our extra teranious
minds, and, left
only the Messianic Mind of God, the Prophet the Bab and Bahaullah. The
Word.
fallible
but very powerful..He put an ark on my chest stomach, and, His, and, we
stayed that way
for at least two years..and, it was so powerful and exalted..to be with
him..Carlos castaneda
was there too and with dailai lama for the most part..
So, that is two accts of ark..there are other arks but those are the arks
I
know..one is chi blood
the other is chi chips of white rain and such..that is innamable..and the
Exalted..
To talk about what I have been through is the Exalted Path of God the
Magnificent!
victory!
Kevin Jones wrote in message ...
"Garry Denke" <garrydenke@usa.com> wrote in message
news:96f81cbe.0407011017.794e6194@posting.google.com...
Garry Denke's Ark of the Covenant under Stonehenge Heelstone Wings
Hello Kevin,
As a matter of law, Garry Denke's ark of the covenant below Stonehenge
Heelstone wings, and Garry Denke's brasen altar inside Stonehenge
Barrow located 100 meters east-southeast of Garry Denke's ark of the
covenant, said Stonehenge Barrow containing Garry Denke's golden table
and Garry Denke's golden altar, including, but not limited to, all of
Garry Denke's personal property inside said Garry Denke's ark, altars,
and table; they are, as you have confirmed below; the exclusive
personal property of the original owner: Garry Denke.
Err - not quite under English law, unless you wish to argue that you,
personally are the original owner of the Ark of the Covenant - I presume
you
mean the Hebrew Ark - which would probably mean that you would have to
be
the first high priest to use it, the guy who built it, or God.
Now here you would have a problem in law. Exodus predates the building of
the Ark. Now at the earliest Exodus would be about 1400-1500 BC, whilst
the
latest date suggested is somewhere round 1290 BC; actually the evidence
for
either date is meagre, though the upper date looks more convincing. That
means that you either have to argue that you are something like 3,500
years
old, or else it is a case of reincarnation. Now I rather doubt that the
courts would accept the argument that a belief in reincarnation
establishes
your claim to any Arks found in England or Wales.
In any case since treasure is, in part, defined as being precious metal
artefacts over 300 years old, British law make the not unreasonable
presumption that the original owner is dead, and that the matter
therefore
concerns his or her heirs, if heirs exist - the concept of property
passing
from a deceased person to his or her reincarnation does not exist in
British
law. If it did, the Treasury would find some way of applying Capital
Gains
Tax.
British law does *not* establish the heirs of the original owner as
having
exclusive ownership of artefacts defined as 'treasure' - on the contrary,
it
establishes the Crown as having exclusive ownership, though it remarks
that
the rights of the heirs are fully protected. Exactly what 'fully
protected'
means would have to be fought out in a court of law, but it does not mean
that they own the treasure. The Crown may waive ownership - but that can
only be done by the Secretary of State.
The next problem is that no Ark has been found. The law does not have any
capacity to award ownership of artefacts that have not been found to
anyone,
let alone someone whose only claim to the non-existent artefacts is that
he
remembers that they are there because he is the original owner of an
artefact that's 3000 years old. Such a claim would immediately be filed
under 'Funnies', along with letters written in green ink with lots of
underlining, and only pulled out for the amusement of new recruits. Mind
you, some poor sod might well be detailed off to write a courteous reply,
the gist of which would be "thank you for your interesting letter . . .
we
do not feel that we can take this matter any further" Every official body
that deals with the general public has its file of Funnies.
Said personal
property of Garry Denke, described and identified above, were by law
remembered Kevin - in legal terms, neither 'found' nor 'discovered' -
only verified by Garry Denke's 1984 geophysical (already conducted)
confirmation of that remembered. In short, Garry Denke's personal
property was not 'found' or 'discovered' by Garry Denke's 1984
surveys, but remembered by Garry Denke.
That has no status in British law. A coroner can only deal with facts
deriving from a something solid, namely a dead body on a slab, or a piece
of
treasure that he can pick up and examine. He can't deal with things that
haven't been found or discovered, and he has no authority to do so. I
could
say that I remembered being the original owner of the Crown jewels, but
nobody is going to let me have them on the basis of that. Courts only
recognise claims that can be supported by evidence.
Now you do have a problem in arguing that the Ark of the Covenant is
buried
under the Heel Stone. Stonehenge was built in three major phases. The
stones
belong to Phase 3 (2600-1600 BC). In the earliest phase (2600 BC), a
crescent of bluestones was errected. This was followed about 500 years
later
by the sarsen stone circle, with tenoned joints, and the Heel Stone. The
henge reached its final shape in 1600 BC.
As mentioned above Exodus would be, at the earliest, about 1400-1500 BC,
whilst the latest date suggested is somewhere round 1290 BC. The Ark is
therefore no older that 1500 BC; it disappeared following the fall of
Jerusalem in 587 BC.
The Heel Stone was put in place somewhere around 2000-1800 BC, some
400-700
years before the earliest hypothetical date of Exodus and thus,
approximately 400-700 years before the Ark was built. The Heel Stone was
also in place some 1200-1400 years before the ark went missing.
Consequently
the one place that the Ark won't be is under the Heel Stone. Indeed,
anything under the Heel Stone will be earlier than the beginning of the
second millennium BC. At that date it may even predate the emergence of
the
Hebrews as an identifiably separate people.
As to where the Ark went to - assuming anyone really cares - the best
guess
is that it was taken by the victorious army that ransacked Jerusalem, as
stated in the Apocalypse of Esdras (IV Esd., x, 22). This is certainly
most
possible; in IV Kings, xxv it is stated that the Babylonian troops
carried
away from the temple whatever brass, silver, and gold they could lay
their
hands upon.
Still Arks seem to be multiplying like mice these days. People are
finding
them all over the place:
http://www.dccsa.com/greatjoy/ark.html
http://anchorstone.com/arkofcovenant.html
It is also variously supposed to be definitely under the Hill of Tara, in
Ethiopia, in Rosslyn Chapel (Scotland), under the Temple Mount, or else
has
been hidden near Rennes-le-Chateau by the Templars and the Masons, who
are
its current guardian.
Actually, they're all wrong - it's been in my garden shed for the last
ten
years. My mother found it, back in the 50s, in some antique shop - she'd
only gone out for a pound of tea. She was never much interested in
demolishing cities and conquering neighbouring kings, so she just asked
it
for the best time to plant the beans. Since it has come to me, I've found
it's quite useful as a toolbox. Since I'm doing a spot of conservation, I
don't mind the odd rain of frogs. I'll see if it can do newts next.
They're
currently declining, so a rain of newts could be useful.
Kevin
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