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 Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:51 am Post subject: @ APOCALYPTIC SIGNS WE ARE NEAR THE END OF THE WORLD ! @ |
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When we study the Bible God Yahweh wants us to rely on His help using
our common sense.
Just as the wars and solar and lunar eclipses occur frequently there
must be some unique way how we can determine that such and such event
belongs to the signs of the end of the world coming.
We must have a time frame based on the understanding the numbers from
the Bible.
People generally were always evil since Adam . When we know the time
frame then we can know that the evilness that comes under a given date
or period can be counted as the end-time sign.
Man is evil and his hostile attitude towards God in the time when the
true religion is proclaimed and opposed man's enmity will be
considered as a sign post.
So it not the hostile attitude of man that was ocurring in the years
151 AD - 1877 AD that counts but man's hostile attitude when the true
chrisianity was restored ! And the year 1984 AD is a good date to do
so !
Beast number 1 is simply the enmity of man in the end-time era . The
basic period is 1984 AD - 1988 AD - 1991 AD -1999 AD.
This is was a period of the Great Spiritual Tribulation !
7 BC - 2 BC = 5 years : 1x2x3x4x5=120
1879 AD - 1884 AD = 5 years (check my posts why these dates ). 1879 AD
+ 120 years = 1999 AD.
Just looking at the man using the common sense based on the Bible
already gives us the clues to the understanding these four as given in
the post title !
So we see man naturally hostile to God - his enmity and that is the
beast number 1 in the Book of Revelation.
The second beast is man's false religious views and philosophical
views and the like that are in the opposition to the truth as
proclaimed in the end-time era .
The image of the second beast will be man made things : material
things that man worships.
How about the Babylon it seems Babylon the Great should be false
religions and do we have contradiction then ?
Put in the place of Babylon love of money ( mammon ).
So we see now that love of money in the endtimes counts as the sign
and to be such we must have established timeline and connect the love
of money to the specific time frame or dates.
There were alwasy wars and plagues in mankind's history but the wars
that were in the period 1914 AD - 1944 AD were the wars as the end-
time signs !
I ascribe the First World War to the second seal in the Book of
Revelation 6.3-4: 1914 AD - 1919 AD ( 5 years ).
The World Depression was a sign too ! -Revalation 6.5-6 . 1929 AD -
1933 AD ( 4 years ).
The Second World War was the fourth seal - Revelation 6.7-8 . 1938 AD
- 1944 AD (6 years ).
Not the fact that there were wars but that there were wars that took
place in the period : 1914 AD - 1944 AD determined that those wars
were the end-time signs !
To make the Spiritual Tribulation of 1984 AD - 1999 AD we use the
periods shown in brackets above !
1984 AD + 6 years = 1990 AD + 4 years = 1994 AD + 5 years = 1999 AD !
Solar eclipse on August 11,1999 AD and lunar eclipse that occurred on
January ,21 ,2000 AD were the end-time signs ! Only these two count !
Because they are linked to the end of the Great Tribulation after
which "the sun will not give her light and the moon will become like
blood "- Matthew 24.29.
Since the stars are so immense we cannot think about stars falling
literally.We take 12 symbolic stars as in Revelation 12 and give one
year to each star : 12 years ! 1999 AD + 12 years = 2011 AD ! |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:54 am Post subject: Re: @ APOCALYPTIC SIGNS WE ARE NEAR THE END OF THE WORLD ! @ |
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Once we got hold to these very convincing signs of the end we have
extra reassurance by God's Mighty Power and Wisdom .
God Yahweh alone could forsaw what sinful people in the end-time era
would do ! We have assurance that we must live in the very end-time
period and things happen strictly by God's Time Plan !
The First World War could last only 5 years ,no more ! The World
Depression only 4 years !
God Yahweh put the time limits what man can do ! And it happened
exatly as predetermined !
God decided the Bible must have 66 books and these books must be the
same in all Bibles even if any other Bible has more than 66 books !
The minimum ( common 66 books ) determine the Bible God Yahweh
accepts.
The first beast has an external representation visible to man .
The Soviet Union that fell apart in 1991 AD symbolized that beast that
is man's hostile attitude towards God Yahweh !
Looking from the cosmos above the North Pole the Soviet Union as
politcal entity and physical entity resembled in shape a red beast
running from the east towards the west( the shape of boundaries ). And
above it was the USA ( North America : Alaska to Panama Canal ) as a
woman riding the red beast . Look at the shape of North America upside
down .
The red beast: 7 heads were 7 republics in the west exactly where the
head was : Estonia,Lithuania ,Latvia, Kaliningrad as a Russian
Republic, Byelorussia,Ukraine,Moldavia.
The 10 horns of the beast were : Poland,East
Germany ,Czechoslovakia ,Rumania,Hungary,Bulgaria = 6 and China,North
Korea,Mongolia and Vietnam as 4 . 6+4=10 horns.
In the front of the red beast we can see a country of the shape of a
lamb : Italy with two horns in the Mountains Alpes.It resembles a leg
or shoe too .It was like The Revived Roman Empire - Rome with the Pope
John Paul II as head.
Babylon carries an ornament - image of the red beast in the same
period and it is the United Nations .
All these phenomena had to take place in the period 1984 AD - 1991 AD
- 1999 AD.
As of now we can be very sure the expected end of the evil world order
to take place in 2011 AD when it seems most people will be annihilated
out of the spiritual ignorance.The signs of the end are very
convincing and assuring enough for those who love the Truth of the
Bible to eagerly await the year 2011 AD.HalleluYAH.Amen.OBVES |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 4:08 am Post subject: Re: @ APOCALYPTIC SIGNS WE ARE NEAR THE END OF THE WORLD ! @ |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:29 am Post subject: Re: @ APOCALYPTIC SIGNS WE ARE NEAR THE END OF THE WORLD ! @ |
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On Aug 18, 11:51 pm, "OB...@aol.com" <OB...@aol.com> wrote:
| Quote: | When we study the Bible God Yahweh wants us to rely on His help using
our common sense.
Just as the wars and solar and lunar eclipses occur frequently there
must be some unique way how we can determine that such and such event
belongs to the signs of the end of the world coming.
We must have a time frame based on the understanding the numbers from
the Bible.
People generally were always evil since Adam . When we know the time
frame then we can know that the evilness that comes under a given date
or period can be counted as the end-time sign.
Man is evil and his hostile attitude towards God in the time when the
true religion is proclaimed and opposed man's enmity will be
considered as a sign post.
So it not the hostile attitude of man that was ocurring in the years
151 AD - 1877 AD that counts but man's hostile attitude when the true
chrisianity was restored ! And the year 1984 AD is a good date to do
so !
Beast number 1 is simply the enmity of man in the end-time era . The
basic period is 1984 AD - 1988 AD - 1991 AD -1999 AD.
This is was a period of the Great Spiritual Tribulation !
7 BC - 2 BC = 5 years : 1x2x3x4x5=120
1879 AD - 1884 AD = 5 years (check my posts why these dates ). 1879 AD
+ 120 years = 1999 AD.
Just looking at the man using the common sense based on the Bible
already gives us the clues to the understanding these four as given in
the post title !
So we see man naturally hostile to God - his enmity and that is the
beast number 1 in the Book of Revelation.
The second beast is man's false religious views and philosophical
views and the like that are in the opposition to the truth as
proclaimed in the end-time era .
The image of the second beast will be man made things : material
things that man worships.
How about the Babylon it seems Babylon the Great should be false
religions and do we have contradiction then ?
Put in the place of Babylon love of money ( mammon ).
So we see now that love of money in the endtimes counts as the sign
and to be such we must have established timeline and connect the love
of money to the specific time frame or dates.
There were alwasy wars and plagues in mankind's history but the wars
that were in the period 1914 AD - 1944 AD were the wars as the end-
time signs !
I ascribe the First World War to the second seal in the Book of
Revelation 6.3-4: 1914 AD - 1919 AD ( 5 years ).
The World Depression was a sign too ! -Revalation 6.5-6 . 1929 AD -
1933 AD ( 4 years ).
The Second World War was the fourth seal - Revelation 6.7-8 . 1938 AD
- 1944 AD (6 years ).
Not the fact that there were wars but that there were wars that took
place in the period : 1914 AD - 1944 AD determined that those wars
were the end-time signs !
To make the Spiritual Tribulation of 1984 AD - 1999 AD we use the
periods shown in brackets above !
1984 AD + 6 years = 1990 AD + 4 years = 1994 AD + 5 years = 1999 AD !
Solar eclipse on August 11,1999 AD and lunar eclipse that occurred on
January ,21 ,2000 AD were the end-time signs ! Only these two count !
Because they are linked to the end of the Great Tribulation after
which "the sun will not give her light and the moon will become like
blood "- Matthew 24.29.
Since the stars are so immense we cannot think about stars falling
literally.We take 12 symbolic stars as in Revelation 12 and give one
year to each star : 12 years ! 1999 AD + 12 years = 2011 AD !
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I must have missed your explanation/excuse when the end of the world
doesn't happen in 2011. What is your prepared response, besides
saying you have a new date? |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:52 pm Post subject: Re: @ APOCALYPTIC SIGNS WE ARE NEAR THE END OF THE WORLD ! @ |
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<unsurreality_2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I'm tired. Call yourself a dumbass.
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LOL
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:33 am Post subject: Re: @ APOCALYPTIC SIGNS WE ARE NEAR THE END OF THE WORLD ! @ |
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On Aug 19, 1:29�am, unsurreality_2...@yahoo.com
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I know another guy Harold Camping: he is predicting the same year
2011 AD and he was predicting the year 1994 AD as I did.
Call him on his very interesting Open Forum program 1-800-322-5385
( week days if alive ~ 8.30-10.00 PM EST ) and let him explain you
about the 1994 prediction. |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:39 am Post subject: Re: @ APOCALYPTIC SIGNS WE ARE NEAR THE END OF THE WORLD ! @ |
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On Aug 19, 1:29�am, unsurreality_2...
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I sent you to Harold Camping as my words don't reach you it looks
like .
But what is more important to know what my response will be at that
time if the prediction fails or what if the predictions comes true ?
I made some predictions before and came out clean and am still
predicting having a new date . |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:43 am Post subject: Re: @ APOCALYPTIC SIGNS WE ARE NEAR THE END OF THE WORLD ! @ |
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Your worry should be bigger than mine ! What if my prediction for
2011 AD comes true ? |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: @ APOCALYPTIC SIGNS WE ARE NEAR THE END OF THE WORLD ! @ |
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| Quote: | Your worry should be bigger than mine ! What if my prediction for
2011 AD comes true ?
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If they come true, you get to say "I told you so," assuming you can
say it fast enough before one of the demons of the Apocalypse rips
your head off.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:47 pm Post subject: Re: @ APOCALYPTIC SIGNS WE ARE NEAR THE END OF THE WORLD ! @ |
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On Aug 20, 12:43 am, "OB...@aol.com" <OB...@aol.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Your worry should be bigger than mine ! What if my prediction for
2011 AD comes true ?
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Really? I should worry? I should worry about leaving my house - it's
highly possible I could get hit by a car and be road pizza. Or maybe
a terrorist bomb. These are plausible worries. Yet, I don't worry
about it or watch traffic information to see where it's the busiest.
I worry about REAL things...like is my son doing well in school, or is
my wife feeling better from her headache. I don't worry about
bullshit stuff.
Your REAL logic is that it's much more likely I'd get hit by a giraffe
in this big city. Should I worry about that too?
Why should I worry about fiction? Should I worry about Harry Potter,
Spiderman, Forrest Gump, The Incredible Hulk too?
As I've said, I'm MORE than confident nothing will happen in 2011
since you predicted it and you are always wrong. And that Camping
jackass?!? Come on...he's a moron - just the fact that he also thinks
2011 is the end of time solidifies my point of view that it's pure,
utter, bullshit. |
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:01 pm Post subject: Re: @ APOCALYPTIC SIGNS WE ARE NEAR THE END OF THE WORLD ! @ |
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On Aug 19, 11:43 pm, "OB...@aol.com" <OB...@aol.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Your worry should be bigger than mine ! What if my prediction for
2011 AD comes true ?
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What if Jehovah's prediction for 2009 AD comes true.
Then OBVES will wory beside those he condemned.
As for me I know the world is wiked enough that there exists
death for those who warn and are correct. They get accused of
having caused it. Or before hand they get accused of trying
to cause it. Or before hand they get accused of needing meds
which is an imprisonment. Or accused of trying to stir an
uprising government, or uprising panic, etc.
No this, that an asteroid will hit, and the government will
say damn your flood idea, there was no flood and the
ground isnt going to drop and sink again because it didnt
then either. Whatever the words of everyone, they will drown.
One third burns and two thirds drown, and 10 million stand
on the mountains and see an ocean they know everyone
has been swept away by. |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:09 am Post subject: Re: @ APOCALYPTIC SIGNS WE ARE NEAR THE END OF THE WORLD ! @ |
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On Aug 21, 3:01�pm, Elijahovah <rschil...@wi.rr.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Aug 19, 11:43�pm, "OB...@aol.com" <OB...@aol.com> wrote:
Your worry should be bigger than mine ! What if my �prediction for
2011 AD comes true ?
What if Jehovah's prediction for 2009 AD comes true.
Then OBVES will wory beside those he condemned.
As for me I know the world is wiked enough that there exists
death for those who warn and are correct. They get accused of
having caused it. Or before hand they get accused of trying
to cause it. Or before hand they get accused of needing meds
which is an imprisonment. Or accused of trying to stir an
uprising government, or uprising panic, etc.
No this, that an asteroid will hit, and the government will
say damn your flood idea, there was no flood and the
ground isnt going to drop and sink again because it didnt
then either. Whatever the words of everyone, they will drown.
One third burns and two thirds drown, and 10 million stand
on the �mountains and see an ocean they know everyone
has been swept away by. |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:13 am Post subject: Re: @ APOCALYPTIC SIGNS WE ARE NEAR THE END OF THE WORLD ! @ |
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On Aug 21, 3:01�pm, Elijahovah <rschil...@wi.rr.com> wrote:
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The date 2009 AD cannot be ignored by this one reason alone as I see
it:
1984 AD = 36 AD ; 1991 AD = 29 AD ; 2009 AD = 11 AD .
Check my posts I came up with the dates 1984 AD and 1991 AD.
But other factors taken into account make the date 2009 AD a weak
prediction. |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:18 pm Post subject: Re: @ APOCALYPTIC SIGNS WE ARE NEAR THE END OF THE WORLD ! @ |
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OBVES@aol.com wrote:
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| Quote: | Since the stars are so immense we cannot think about stars falling
literally.We take 12 symbolic stars as in Revelation 12 and give one
year to each star : 12 years ! 1999 AD + 12 years = 2011 AD !
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Will you please hurry up and change the year?
I am tired to all this religions, patriotism, voilence, terrorism,
crime, corruption, drugs, man-woman sexual relationship with age
difference more than one year, adultery, promiscuity, homosexuality.
And as if it was not enough, now people openly supporting that there
is nothing wrong in incest and practicing it.
And theists are doing this by twisting meaning of religious text,
false cults. Atheists are doing by applying jungle, animal logic.
This has gone too far. Incest is most disgusting thing man can do.
What is the difference between mankind and animals?
So will you please advance it?
-neo. |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:56 pm Post subject: Re: @ APOCALYPTIC SIGNS WE ARE NEAR THE END OF THE WORLD ! @ |
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Now is the time to speak about the high likelihood the present world
order will come to its end in 2011 AD .
A little more than 3 years from now your fate will be known . |
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