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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:58 pm    Post subject: Apples. Reply with quote

Subject: Who Is This J-hovah That We Should Serve
Him? Part 2. Aug. 19, 2008.

Here is some more about Moses.

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Moses, a son of the tribe of Levi (JW Some of
the space people say that Moses was the son of an
Egyptian soldier and Moses befriended the Jewish
people.) [one of the Hebrew tribes], educated in
Egypt and initiated at Heliopolis [an Egyptian
city], became a High Priest of the Brotherhood under
the reign of Pharaoh Amenhotep [Akhenaton]. He was
elected by the H-brews as their chief and he adapted
to the ideas of his people the science and
philosophy which he had obtained in the Egyptian
mysteries; proofs of this are to be found in the
symbols, in the Initiations, and in his precepts and
commandments. . .. The dogma of an `ony' `G-d'
which he taught was the Egyptian Brotherhood
interpretation and teaching of the Pharaoh who
established the first monotheistic r-ligion known
to man.‘ *




* This passage raises the question of when the Jewish exodus from
Egypt had occurred. If Moses was a High Priest of the Brotherhood
under Akhenaton, as Manetho states, but did not lead the exodus until
the reign of Rameses II, as many historians believe, then Moses must
have been an extremely old man at the time of the exodus. (Rameses II
did not rule until almost `one hundred years after Akhenaton'.) The
Bible, in Deuteronomy 34:7, states that Moses was 120 years old when
he died.
Claims of such advanced age may be difficult to accept in our modem
day, but if it is true about Moses, then both Manetho and modern
scholars would be correct in their datings.
Strong evidence in support of Manetho’s statement is found in the
early teachings of Judaism, which were deeply mystical and utilized
many Brotherhood symbols. Many of those mystical teachings are still
taught today in the Jewish Cabala: a secret religious philosophy of
Jewish rabbis. The Cabala continues to utilize a complex array of
mystical symbols. Modern Israel’s national logo, the `six-pointed Star
of David', has been a Brotherhood symbol for thousands of years.
Early human writers often portrayed mankind’s `Custodial Gods' as
`bloodthirsty creatures' prone to excessive violence. Sadly, those
lamentable qualities did not improve with `Jehovah'. During the trek
from Egypt to the Promised Land, Jehovah demanded unflagging obedience
from the Hebrews. Many humans rebelled and Jehovah reacted with extreme
cruelty. Jehovah reportedly killed up to 14,000 Hebrews at a time for
disobedience. He used a variety of killing methods, such as spreading
diseases, just as other Custodial Gods had done earlier in Sumeria.
When the
Hebrew armies reached Canaan, Jehovah displayed a genuinely
psychopathic bent. To establish the Hebrews in their new homeland,
Jehovah ordered the Hebrew armies to embark on a campaign of genocide
to depopulate all of the region’s existing cities and towns. Under the
new leadership of a man named <U>Joshua</U>, the first city to fall in
Jehovah’s seven-year holocaust was <U>Jericho</U>. According to the
Bible, the Hebrew army,
numbering in the tens of thousands, slaughtered everyone in Jericho
except, ironically, a prostitute because she had earlier betrayed her
own people by helping two Hebrew spies:
And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and
woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the
sword.
JOSHUA 6:21
After that was accomplished:
. . they burnt the city with fire, and all that was therein: only the
silver, and the gold, and the vessels of brass and of iron, they put
into the treasury of the house of the Lord.
JOSHUA 6:24
The next target
was `Ai', a city with a population of 12,000 inhabitants. All of the
citizens of Ai were butchered and the city was burned to the ground.
This savagery was perpetrated city after city:
So Joshua killed all in the country of the hills, and of the south,
and of the valleys, and of the springs, and all their kings: he left
none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the
<I>Lord</I> <I>God</I> of Israel commanded.
JOSHUA 10:40
The genocide was justified by saying that the victims were all
wicked. This could not have been the true reason because children and
animals were also slaughtered. It is hardly fair to massacre an
entire city for the crimes of a few; neither is it right to murder
a child for the crimes of its parents. The real crime, according to the
Bible, was that the natives of the region had become disobedient. The
more obedient Hebrews were therefore elected by Jehovah to wipe out
the natives and replace them.
There is some debate today about whether the Hebrew assimilation
into Canaan was as genocidal as portrayed in the Bible. Modern
archaeological digs into some of the battle sites named in the Bible
(such as Hazor, Lachish and Debir) have revealed evidence of violent
destruction during the time of Joshua. Other sites have yielded less
conclusive evidence. Many people understandably prefer to play down the
Biblical bloodshed as much as possible. To whatever degree the Biblical
story of the conquest of Canaan is true, it does tell us something very
important about <U>genocide</U>:
Genocide is often a tool for promoting rapid political or social
change by quickly replacing one group of people with another. For this
reason, genocide has emerged as a significant historical phenomenon in
connection with many Brotherhood efforts at bringing about rapid
political and social change.
People who are familiar with Jewish moral teachings may be surprised
at the brutal behavior ascribed to Jehovah and the Hebrews. The most
famous of the Jewish moral teachings are, of course, <I>the Ten
Commandments</I>, which were reportedly given to <U>Moses</U> by
<U>Jehovah</U> during the Hebrews’ trek to the Promised Land. After
Moses’ death, Jehovah and the armies of Israel clearly violated the
Commandments in a big way. <I>Thou shalt not kill</I> was transgressed
when the Hebrews massacred the inhabitants of Canaan.
The Hebrews ignored the commandment <I>Thou shalt not steal</I> when
they robbed the dying cities of their precious metals. They were no
better about adhering to the commandment <I>Thou shalt not covet thy
neighbor’s house ... nor any thing that is thy neighbor’s when they
committed genocide to take away the land of their neighbors. This
behavior is puzzling because many Biblical commandments do establish a
decent code of conduct. For example, the Hebrews were admonished never
to cooperate with a wrongdoer by giving false testimony. Another
commandment stressed the importance of individual responsibility in
the face of group pressure by stating, You shall not go along with a
group in doing evil.
Tolerance for outsiders was made law with, You shall
not vex a stranger, nor oppress him... .
Thieves were usually required to pay restitution to their victims.
How do we account for the existence of such humane commandments in
the face of such barbaric behavior? *
* Not all Old Testament commandments were humane by today’s
standards. Freedom of worship was not tolerated. Slavery was an
accepted institution and Hebrew men were allowed to sell their
daughters into slavery. The eye-for-an-eye, tooth-for-a-tooth form of
punishment does not always result in justice.
Part of the answer may lie in the words of <B>Manetho</B>:
The wonders which Moses narrates as having taken place upon the
Mountain of Sinai [the mountain upon which Jehovah reportedly gave
Moses many of the Commandments], are in part, a veiled account of the
Egyptian initiation which [Moses] transmitted to his people when he
established a branch of the Egyptian Brotherhood in his country.... 2
If `Manetho’s words are true, then <I>many of the Commandments may
have come from human sources within the Brotherhood rather than
from Custodial sources</I>. This would indicate the continued presence
of genuine humanitarians within the Brotherhood despite Custodial
dominance.
`Moses' himself appears to have been, at least to some degree, such
a humanitarian. The Bible describes Moses as a man of moderation who
frequently intervened on behalf of the Hebrews when <B>Jehovah</B> was
about to mete out a violent punishment. As we shall see several times
in this book, lingering humanitarian influences within the Brotherhood
have often come to the surface, but sadly, not enough to entirely
undo the corrupting influences.
Another puzzling aspect of <U>the Biblical genocide story</U> was the
behavior of the people being slaughtered. According to the Bible, only
one city surrendered. The rest chose to fight and be butchered. When
confronted with an overpowering Hebrew army, and perhaps even a
thundering <I>God</I>” in the sky, is it not likely that more besieged
cities would surrender, or at least offer to vacate Canaan peaceably?
The Bible presents an interesting explanation of why that did not
happen: There was not a city that made peace with the children of
Israel, save the Hi-vites, the inhabitants of Gib-eon, all others they
took in battle.
For it was the Lord who hardened their hearts, that they would go
against Israel in battle, that he might destroy them utterly, and that
they might find no favor, but that he might destroy them.... Subject: Tom
Cruise and I. Aug. 19, 2008.
Let me state first of all that I have not met
Tom Cruise, the actor, but it would be nice to meet
him.
Today while working in the Museum a person sat
down by and saw what I was doing. He said he did
that sort of thing in the first grade, that is,
paste some paper on to a folder using some glue.
I informed him that he was correct and there is no
job that is soo low that I will not it do for them.
He then got more curious and asked what exactly
I was doing. I informed him that I was putting
new labels on the file records of all of the
mining claims that were filed for the last one
hundred or more years, in this county. I then
informed him that there near works of art showing
all about these claims. One in particular that he
might be interested in was the Mary Washington Mine
near the town of Tuolumne, Calif.
I told him how my friend Don Showen, of the
internet had personally showed me how to do the
things that the people of Scientology do to make
people feel better. They hitch a person up with a
zero centering E-meter with some electrodes which
are cans to each person's hands, one on the right
and one on the left. They then increase the
sensitively of the ohmmeter scale and keep it
centered by adjusting a resistor that keeps the
reading in the middle. Next they ask certain
questions like do you hate your mother-in-law. If
you do hate your mother-in-law then the meter will
deflect in one direction. If you don't hate her
you mother-in-law and are not upset by the question
then the meter will deflect slightly in the
positive directing.
You keep doing this until you show no amount of
upset feelings towards the question. You do this
on many subjects until you don't show any reaction
to the question after some days. Finally you
become clear and you get over all sort of
psychosamatic diseases. You are then called a Clear.
In the past some people have gone through the
testing and it only takes a few days to become
clear and you can monitor other people and it only
takes a small outlay of money. In other cases
with the person who is known to be the offspring of
a famous rich person they keep this going for many
days or months and it costs a fabulous amount of
money to become a clear.
I then informed the person I was talking to that
there was vault where the Scientologist keep the
records of L. Ron Hubbard.
This person then asked me who I was and I told
him that I am John Winston. He then told me that
he was familiar with my name and asked me if I
would like to go into the vault because he had been
in himself. I told him that he would.
He told me that he knew the care taker of the
vault and would let me know when I could go in.
He also told me that I would not be able to talk
about r-ligion in there. I told him I would follow
his suggestion.
So you never can tell I might bump into Tom
Cruise in the Vault one of these days.

John Winston.
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