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 Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:35 pm Post subject: Re: Beautiful! |
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In news:g7fb3s$epl$1@aioe.org,
JohnH <JohnH@nospam.com> typed:
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You're Worthy Of My Praise
I will give, you all my worship
I will give, you all my praise
You alone, I long to worship
You alone, are worthy of my praise
I will worship, with all of my heart
I will praise you, with all of my strength
I will seek you, all of my days
I will follow, all of your ways
I will give you, all my worship
I will give you, all my praise
You alone, I long to worship
You alone, are worthy of my praise
You are worthy of my praise
I will bow down, and I'll hail you as king
I will serve you, I will give you everything
I will lift up my eyes to your throne
I will trust you, I will trust you alone
I will give you all my worship
I will give you all my praise
You alone I long to worship
You alone are worthy of my praise
I will give you all my worship
I will give you all my praise
You alone I long to worship
You alone are worthy of my praise
You are worthy, You are worthy
You are worthy of my praise
Oh, I will give you all my worship
I will give you all my praise
You alone I long, I long to worship
Well, you alone are worthy of my praise
You are worthy of my praise
Did you know that there is not one Psalm, which does not say "God,"
the "LORD," or the "Lord?" No, not one! It's certain He knew to
Whom the Psalmists were referring; however, notice that,
nevertheless, this did not go without actually saying. Have you ever
had a person carry on a conversation with you, and not say your name,
even once? If so, how did that make you feel? Never experienced
that? Well, may you never experience that, I say.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:52 pm Post subject: Re: Beautiful! |
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Van <evanm37@gmail.com> typed:
| Quote: | On Aug 7, 1:35 pm, " ::: good news runner :::" <veral...@lycos.com
wrote:
Innews:g7fb3s$epl$1@aioe.org,
JohnH <Jo...@nospam.com> typed:
good news runner ::: wrote:
You're Worthy Of My Praise
I will give, you all my worship
I will give, you all my praise
You alone, I long to worship
You alone, are worthy of my praise
I will worship, with all of my heart
I will praise you, with all of my strength
I will seek you, all of my days
I will follow, all of your ways
I will give you, all my worship
I will give you, all my praise
You alone, I long to worship
You alone, are worthy of my praise
You are worthy of my praise
I will bow down, and I'll hail you as king
I will serve you, I will give you everything
I will lift up my eyes to your throne
I will trust you, I will trust you alone
I will give you all my worship
I will give you all my praise
You alone I long to worship
You alone are worthy of my praise
I will give you all my worship
I will give you all my praise
You alone I long to worship
You alone are worthy of my praise
You are worthy, You are worthy
You are worthy of my praise
Oh, I will give you all my worship
I will give you all my praise
You alone I long, I long to worship
Well, you alone are worthy of my praise
You are worthy of my praise
Did you know that there is not one Psalm, which does not say "God,"
the "LORD," or the "Lord?" No, not one! It's certain He knew to
Whom the Psalmists were referring; however, notice that,
nevertheless, this did not go without actually saying. Have you ever
had a person carry on a conversation with you, and not say your
name, even once? If so, how did that make you feel? Never
experienced that? Well, may you never experience that, I say.
Okay, but otherwise you like it?
I would have to hear the music it goes to, its all about the music,
lyrics are just words on a page until you add music
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Exactly.
It was a copy and paste job only. |
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psalmsmith
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| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:58 pm Post subject: Re: Beautiful! |
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In article <f4Hmk.3524$zv7.1343@flpi143.ffdc.sbc.com>,
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
| Quote: | JohnH wrote:
::: good news runner ::: wrote:
I will trust you alone
You alone are worthy of my praise
Doesn't say much for anybody else in this person's life
Have you ever
had a person carry on a conversation with you, and not say your name,
even once? If so, how did that make you feel? Never experienced
that? Well, may you never experience that, I say.
Yes, all the time. In both business and private life. In person and on the
telephone.
The only time it is common is when using a two way radio and that is at the
start of an exchange and used to identify who is being called and who is
calling.
Hi mike, which is not a part of the conversation may happen once in a while
with people I don't see often.
However I know the people I talk to most of the time and they know me.
I'm guessing the rather reduntant wording is designed to please some god and
they should know who is talking to them.
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I instead would describe such repetition in the psalms,
more as a meter. Or, a kind of a spiritual metronome.
Instead of looking for the similarities and the repeats,
look rather for all the contrasts and the differences.
between the 'beat' of the repetitive verses.
There, you just might find a fingerprint of God. |
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JohnH
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:04 am Post subject: Re: Beautiful! |
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Van wrote:
| Quote: | On Aug 7, 12:24 pm, JohnH <Jo...@nospam.com> wrote:
::: good news runner ::: wrote:
You're Worthy Of My Praise
I will give, you all my worship
I will give, you all my praise
You alone, I long to worship
You alone, are worthy of my praise
I will worship, with all of my heart
I will praise you, with all of my strength
I will seek you, all of my days
I will follow, all of your ways
I will give you, all my worship
I will give you, all my praise
You alone, I long to worship
You alone, are worthy of my praise
You are worthy of my praise
I will bow down, and I'll hail you as king
I will serve you, I will give you everything
I will lift up my eyes to your throne
I will trust you, I will trust you alone
I will give you all my worship
I will give you all my praise
You alone I long to worship
You alone are worthy of my praise
I will give you all my worship
I will give you all my praise
You alone I long to worship
You alone are worthy of my praise
You are worthy, You are worthy
You are worthy of my praise
Oh, I will give you all my worship
I will give you all my praise
You alone I long, I long to worship
Well, you alone are worthy of my praise
You are worthy of my praise
Did you know that there is not one Psalm, which does not say "God," the
"LORD," or the "Lord?" No, not one! It's certain He knew to Whom the
Psalmists were referring; however, notice that, nevertheless, this did
not go without actually saying. Have you ever had a person carry on a
conversation with you, and not say your name, even once? If so, how did
that make you feel? Never experienced that? Well, may you never
experience that, I say.
I've had many conversations where people dont mention my name, if you
have the brain cells to tell they're talking to you than its no
problem, my friend doesnt have to say my name every sentence so that I
know he's talking to me...
"HEy, Bro"
"Hey, Whats up?"
"Going to the movies, wanna come"
"Nah, sorry man, me and Grace were going to go hang at her place"
"You sure? Tanner and Becca are coming"
"I might catch up to you guys later"
"Alright, see you"
"Yeah, stay outta trouble"
We never even said each others name, but theres no doubt who we're
talking to...
That only covers one situation, Van, but there are at least two more: |
One, where the person has totally forgotten your name, and they're too
embarrassed to admit that, or to ask you for it again.
Two, where the person is not your friend, and they don't respect you or
even like you, and that's their way of showing it.
Now, are you willing to admit that there's more than just one scenario? |
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JohnH
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:07 am Post subject: Re: Beautiful! |
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Mike Painter wrote:
| Quote: | JohnH wrote:
::: good news runner ::: wrote:
I will trust you alone
You alone are worthy of my praise
Doesn't say much for anybody else in this person's life
Have you ever
had a person carry on a conversation with you, and not say your name,
even once? If so, how did that make you feel? Never experienced
that? Well, may you never experience that, I say.
Yes, all the time. In both business and private life. In person and on the
telephone.
The only time it is common is when using a two way radio and that is at the
start of an exchange and used to identify who is being called and who is
calling.
Hi mike, which is not a part of the conversation may happen once in a while
with people I don't see often.
However I know the people I talk to most of the time and they know me.
I'm guessing the rather reduntant wording is designed to please some god and
they should know who is talking to them.
See my response to Van. Maybe, you'll see what I was driving at. |
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psalmsmith
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:18 am Post subject: Re: Beautiful! |
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In article
<e6f53f56-aa7c-4385-9440-d229b179d290@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
Van <evanm37@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Aug 7, 1:58 pm, psalmsmith <psalmsm...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
In article <f4Hmk.3524$zv7.1...@flpi143.ffdc.sbc.com>,
"Mike Painter" <mddotpain...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
JohnH wrote:
::: good news runner ::: wrote:
I will trust you alone
You alone are worthy of my praise
Doesn't say much for anybody else in this person's life
> Have you ever
had a person carry on a conversation with you, and not say your name,
even once? If so, how did that make you feel? Never experienced
that? Well, may you never experience that, I say.
Yes, all the time. In both business and private life. In person and on
the
telephone.
The only time it is common is when using a two way radio and that is at
the
start of an exchange and used to identify who is being called and who is
calling.
Hi mike, which is not a part of the conversation may happen once in a
while
with people I don't see often.
However I know the people I talk to most of the time and they know me.
I'm guessing the rather reduntant wording is designed to please some god
and
they should know who is talking to them.
I instead would describe such repetition in the psalms,
more as a meter. Or, a kind of a spiritual metronome.
Instead of looking for the similarities and the repeats,
look rather for all the contrasts and the differences.
between the 'beat' of the repetitive verses.
There, you just might find a fingerprint of God.
Maybe, but I dont think this is a psalm I beleive its a christian
rocker who is swimming in millions of dollars for his "creativity" and
"origionality" ...
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No, of course it's not a psalm, I was just trying to elevate the
discourse. |
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JohnH
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:22 am Post subject: Re: Beautiful! |
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::: good news runner ::: wrote:
| Quote: | In news:g7fb3s$epl$1@aioe.org,
JohnH <JohnH@nospam.com> typed:
::: good news runner ::: wrote:
You're Worthy Of My Praise
I will give, you all my worship
I will give, you all my praise
You alone, I long to worship
You alone, are worthy of my praise
I will worship, with all of my heart
I will praise you, with all of my strength
I will seek you, all of my days
I will follow, all of your ways
I will give you, all my worship
I will give you, all my praise
You alone, I long to worship
You alone, are worthy of my praise
You are worthy of my praise
I will bow down, and I'll hail you as king
I will serve you, I will give you everything
I will lift up my eyes to your throne
I will trust you, I will trust you alone
I will give you all my worship
I will give you all my praise
You alone I long to worship
You alone are worthy of my praise
I will give you all my worship
I will give you all my praise
You alone I long to worship
You alone are worthy of my praise
You are worthy, You are worthy
You are worthy of my praise
Oh, I will give you all my worship
I will give you all my praise
You alone I long, I long to worship
Well, you alone are worthy of my praise
You are worthy of my praise
Did you know that there is not one Psalm, which does not say "God,"
the "LORD," or the "Lord?" No, not one! It's certain He knew to
Whom the Psalmists were referring; however, notice that,
nevertheless, this did not go without actually saying. Have you ever
had a person carry on a conversation with you, and not say your name,
even once? If so, how did that make you feel? Never experienced
that? Well, may you never experience that, I say.
Okay, but otherwise you like it?
Yes, Vera, I liked it, but it seemed kinda' empty or flat or something. |
You see, when I first read what you wrote, that's what jumped out at
me, that you hadn't actually mentioned Him. And before I posted, I
looked through the entire Book of Psalms, before I said anything. Now,
if I noticed that, how much more Him? So, yes, I liked it, but is it
really finished? |
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JohnH
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:55 am Post subject: Re: Beautiful! |
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Van wrote:
| Quote: | On Aug 7, 2:04 pm, JohnH <Jo...@nospam.com> wrote:
Van wrote:
On Aug 7, 12:24 pm, JohnH <Jo...@nospam.com> wrote:
::: good news runner ::: wrote:
You're Worthy Of My Praise
I will give, you all my worship
I will give, you all my praise
You alone, I long to worship
You alone, are worthy of my praise
I will worship, with all of my heart
I will praise you, with all of my strength
I will seek you, all of my days
I will follow, all of your ways
I will give you, all my worship
I will give you, all my praise
You alone, I long to worship
You alone, are worthy of my praise
You are worthy of my praise
I will bow down, and I'll hail you as king
I will serve you, I will give you everything
I will lift up my eyes to your throne
I will trust you, I will trust you alone
I will give you all my worship
I will give you all my praise
You alone I long to worship
You alone are worthy of my praise
I will give you all my worship
I will give you all my praise
You alone I long to worship
You alone are worthy of my praise
You are worthy, You are worthy
You are worthy of my praise
Oh, I will give you all my worship
I will give you all my praise
You alone I long, I long to worship
Well, you alone are worthy of my praise
You are worthy of my praise
Did you know that there is not one Psalm, which does not say "God," the
"LORD," or the "Lord?" No, not one! It's certain He knew to Whom the
Psalmists were referring; however, notice that, nevertheless, this did
not go without actually saying. Have you ever had a person carry on a
conversation with you, and not say your name, even once? If so, how did
that make you feel? Never experienced that? Well, may you never
experience that, I say.
I've had many conversations where people dont mention my name, if you
have the brain cells to tell they're talking to you than its no
problem, my friend doesnt have to say my name every sentence so that I
know he's talking to me...
"HEy, Bro"
"Hey, Whats up?"
"Going to the movies, wanna come"
"Nah, sorry man, me and Grace were going to go hang at her place"
"You sure? Tanner and Becca are coming"
"I might catch up to you guys later"
"Alright, see you"
"Yeah, stay outta trouble"
We never even said each others name, but theres no doubt who we're
talking to...
That only covers one situation, Van, but there are at least two more:
One, where the person has totally forgotten your name, and they're too
embarrassed to admit that, or to ask you for it again.
Two, where the person is not your friend, and they don't respect you or
even like you, and that's their way of showing it.
Now, are you willing to admit that there's more than just one scenario?
calm down yankee doodle, I didnt attack you, You just said it was
disrespectful if someone doesnt address you by your name, I proved you
wrong, and Mike Painter gave you 2 more scenarios. If someone forgets
my name, I dont consider it disrespectful, I understand it because I
have trouble with names if I dont have a face to match to it. Second,
I've never had someone who hated my guts not say my name, as some sort
of subliminal insult...
Just calm down and assume I meant no harm...
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Van, I am so calm that it's beyond your imagination. Also, I didn't say
that you had attacked me. And "disrespectful" was only one of the total
options (one of yours, two of mine, and those of Mike's). Personally, I
think there are *at least* three reasons why people won't say another's
name in a conversation, but I never picked one reason over the other,
and said, "That's the one." Why? Because this is a "no
one-size-fits-all" situation, in my opinion.
BTW, have you noticed that I keep steadily calling you by your name, and
that I have completely ignored the rather nasty things that you've said
to me? I'll say it again, you have a big-chip on your shoulder. Even
after I told you a little bit about myself (German ancestors, German
girlfriend, serving in the U.S. Army in Germany, whatever), just to
stimulate a friendly conversation, you latched on to the U.S. Army
"thing," and started ranting on that. So, I suggest that you need to
tell yourself to calm down, and that you try to understand that I'm not
the one who did the harm here. (Well, I might have said a little
something, but, overall, I've been taking it pretty easy with you, all
things considered.) |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:09 am Post subject: Re: Beautiful! |
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In news:g7fi1o$lln$1@aioe.org,
JohnH <JohnH@nospam.com> typed:
| Quote: | ::: good news runner ::: wrote:
In news:g7fb3s$epl$1@aioe.org,
JohnH <JohnH@nospam.com> typed:
::: good news runner ::: wrote:
You're Worthy Of My Praise
I will give, you all my worship
I will give, you all my praise
You alone, I long to worship
You alone, are worthy of my praise
I will worship, with all of my heart
I will praise you, with all of my strength
I will seek you, all of my days
I will follow, all of your ways
I will give you, all my worship
I will give you, all my praise
You alone, I long to worship
You alone, are worthy of my praise
You are worthy of my praise
I will bow down, and I'll hail you as king
I will serve you, I will give you everything
I will lift up my eyes to your throne
I will trust you, I will trust you alone
I will give you all my worship
I will give you all my praise
You alone I long to worship
You alone are worthy of my praise
I will give you all my worship
I will give you all my praise
You alone I long to worship
You alone are worthy of my praise
You are worthy, You are worthy
You are worthy of my praise
Oh, I will give you all my worship
I will give you all my praise
You alone I long, I long to worship
Well, you alone are worthy of my praise
You are worthy of my praise
Did you know that there is not one Psalm, which does not say "God,"
the "LORD," or the "Lord?" No, not one! It's certain He knew to
Whom the Psalmists were referring; however, notice that,
nevertheless, this did not go without actually saying. Have you
ever had a person carry on a conversation with you, and not say
your name, even once? If so, how did that make you feel? Never
experienced that? Well, may you never experience that, I say.
Okay, but otherwise you like it?
Yes, Vera, I liked it, but it seemed kinda' empty or flat or
something. You see, when I first read what you wrote, that's what
jumped out at me, that you hadn't actually mentioned Him. And before
I posted, I looked through the entire Book of Psalms, before I said
anything. Now, if I noticed that, how much more Him? So, yes, I
liked it, but is it really finished?
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I have no idea. Actually, I just copied and pasted it. :-)
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:26 am Post subject: Re: Beautiful! |
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In news:6g134bFdioksU1@mid.individual.net,
::: good news runner ::: <veralein@lycos.com> typed:
| Quote: | In news:g7fi1o$lln$1@aioe.org,
JohnH <JohnH@nospam.com> typed:
::: good news runner ::: wrote:
In news:g7fb3s$epl$1@aioe.org,
JohnH <JohnH@nospam.com> typed:
::: good news runner ::: wrote:
You're Worthy Of My Praise
I will give, you all my worship
I will give, you all my praise
You alone, I long to worship
You alone, are worthy of my praise
I will worship, with all of my heart
I will praise you, with all of my strength
I will seek you, all of my days
I will follow, all of your ways
I will give you, all my worship
I will give you, all my praise
You alone, I long to worship
You alone, are worthy of my praise
You are worthy of my praise
I will bow down, and I'll hail you as king
I will serve you, I will give you everything
I will lift up my eyes to your throne
I will trust you, I will trust you alone
I will give you all my worship
I will give you all my praise
You alone I long to worship
You alone are worthy of my praise
I will give you all my worship
I will give you all my praise
You alone I long to worship
You alone are worthy of my praise
You are worthy, You are worthy
You are worthy of my praise
Oh, I will give you all my worship
I will give you all my praise
You alone I long, I long to worship
Well, you alone are worthy of my praise
You are worthy of my praise
Did you know that there is not one Psalm, which does not say "God,"
the "LORD," or the "Lord?" No, not one! It's certain He knew to
Whom the Psalmists were referring; however, notice that,
nevertheless, this did not go without actually saying. Have you
ever had a person carry on a conversation with you, and not say
your name, even once? If so, how did that make you feel? Never
experienced that? Well, may you never experience that, I say.
Okay, but otherwise you like it?
Yes, Vera, I liked it, but it seemed kinda' empty or flat or
something. You see, when I first read what you wrote, that's what
jumped out at me, that you hadn't actually mentioned Him. And before
I posted, I looked through the entire Book of Psalms, before I said
anything. Now, if I noticed that, how much more Him? So, yes, I
liked it, but is it really finished?
I have no idea. Actually, I just copied and pasted it. 
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In addition, I thin there is too much "I", "I", "I" first - "You" last.
I would prefer it the other way round, or more "Yous" than "Is" all in
all.
But Van said it - one would have to hear it with voice or instruments to
make it a hymn.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:28 am Post subject: Re: Beautiful! |
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"JohnH" <JohnH@nospam.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Van wrote:
On Aug 7, 2:04 pm, JohnH <Jo...@nospam.com> wrote:
Van wrote:
On Aug 7, 12:24 pm, JohnH <Jo...@nospam.com> wrote:
::: good news runner ::: wrote:
You're Worthy Of My Praise
I will give, you all my worship
I will give, you all my praise
You alone, I long to worship
You alone, are worthy of my praise
I will worship, with all of my heart
I will praise you, with all of my strength
I will seek you, all of my days
I will follow, all of your ways
I will give you, all my worship
I will give you, all my praise
You alone, I long to worship
You alone, are worthy of my praise
You are worthy of my praise
I will bow down, and I'll hail you as king
I will serve you, I will give you everything
I will lift up my eyes to your throne
I will trust you, I will trust you alone
I will give you all my worship
I will give you all my praise
You alone I long to worship
You alone are worthy of my praise
I will give you all my worship
I will give you all my praise
You alone I long to worship
You alone are worthy of my praise
You are worthy, You are worthy
You are worthy of my praise
Oh, I will give you all my worship
I will give you all my praise
You alone I long, I long to worship
Well, you alone are worthy of my praise
You are worthy of my praise
Did you know that there is not one Psalm, which does not say
"God," the
"LORD," or the "Lord?" No, not one! It's certain He knew to Whom
the
Psalmists were referring; however, notice that, nevertheless, this
did
not go without actually saying. Have you ever had a person carry
on a
conversation with you, and not say your name, even once? If so,
how did
that make you feel? Never experienced that? Well, may you never
experience that, I say.
I've had many conversations where people dont mention my name, if
you
have the brain cells to tell they're talking to you than its no
problem, my friend doesnt have to say my name every sentence so
that I
know he's talking to me...
"HEy, Bro"
"Hey, Whats up?"
"Going to the movies, wanna come"
"Nah, sorry man, me and Grace were going to go hang at her place"
"You sure? Tanner and Becca are coming"
"I might catch up to you guys later"
"Alright, see you"
"Yeah, stay outta trouble"
We never even said each others name, but theres no doubt who we're
talking to...
That only covers one situation, Van, but there are at least two
more:
One, where the person has totally forgotten your name, and they're
too
embarrassed to admit that, or to ask you for it again.
Two, where the person is not your friend, and they don't respect you
or
even like you, and that's their way of showing it.
Now, are you willing to admit that there's more than just one
scenario?
calm down yankee doodle, I didnt attack you, You just said it was
disrespectful if someone doesnt address you by your name, I proved
you
wrong, and Mike Painter gave you 2 more scenarios. If someone forgets
my name, I dont consider it disrespectful, I understand it because I
have trouble with names if I dont have a face to match to it. Second,
I've never had someone who hated my guts not say my name, as some
sort
of subliminal insult...
Just calm down and assume I meant no harm...
Van, I am so calm that it's beyond your imagination. Also, I didn't
say that you had attacked me. And "disrespectful" was only one of the
total options (one of yours, two of mine, and those of Mike's).
Personally, I think there are *at least* three reasons why people
won't say another's name in a conversation, but I never picked one
reason over the other, and said, "That's the one." Why? Because this
is a "no one-size-fits-all" situation, in my opinion.
BTW, have you noticed that I keep steadily calling you by your name,
and that I have completely ignored the rather nasty things that you've
said to me? I'll say it again, you have a big-chip on your shoulder.
Even after I told you a little bit about myself (German ancestors,
German girlfriend, serving in the U.S. Army in Germany, whatever),
just to stimulate a friendly conversation, you latched on to the U.S.
Army "thing," and started ranting on that. So, I suggest that you
need to tell yourself to calm down, and that you try to understand
that I'm not the one who did the harm here. (Well, I might have said
a little something, but, overall, I've been taking it pretty easy with
you, all things considered.)
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Somebody really ought to explain to the kid Nato vs the
the former Soviet threat (presently being revived),
the fact that Germany would be part of the Soviet Union
if not for those US bases, you know, all that down to earth real stuff
that just won't fit into a Volkswagen
*¿* |
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Mike Painter
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:29 am Post subject: Re: Beautiful! |
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JohnH wrote:
| Quote: | Mike Painter wrote:
JohnH wrote:
::: good news runner ::: wrote:
I will trust you alone
You alone are worthy of my praise
Doesn't say much for anybody else in this person's life
Have you ever
had a person carry on a conversation with you, and not say your
name, even once? If so, how did that make you feel? Never
experienced that? Well, may you never experience that, I say.
Yes, all the time. In both business and private life. In person and
on the telephone.
The only time it is common is when using a two way radio and that is
at the start of an exchange and used to identify who is being called
and who is calling.
Hi mike, which is not a part of the conversation may happen once in
a while with people I don't see often.
However I know the people I talk to most of the time and they know
me. I'm guessing the rather reduntant wording is designed to please some
god and they should know who is talking to them.
See my response to Van. Maybe, you'll see what I was driving at.
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No, I don't you said that people should "never experience" not having their
name mentioned in every conversation and I responded to that.
Why do you feel it is so important?
Why do you feel *nobody* should ever have to experience it and why do you
feel that "god" and "lord or "Jesus" should have been every third word.
I guess I could ask why you don't practice what you preach too. |
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galia
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 5:09 am Post subject: Re: Beautiful! |
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"baba" <bbdd@terra.spoof.net> wrote in message
news:sCKmk.6247$Ep1.3430@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
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| Quote: | ...Yankee Doodle...
Somebody really ought to explain to the kid Nato vs the
the former Soviet threat (presently being revived),
the fact that Germany would be part of the Soviet Union
if not for those US bases, you know, all that down to earth real stuff
that just won't fit into a Volkswagen
*¿*
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OK you *Knucklehead*, you mean *all that down to earth real stuff* like *the
invasion of Iraq in 2003* by the American's?! lol |
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Mike Painter
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:45 am Post subject: Re: Beautiful! |
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galia wrote:
| Quote: | "baba" <bbdd@terra.spoof.net> wrote in message
news:sCKmk.6247$Ep1.3430@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
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...Yankee Doodle...
Somebody really ought to explain to the kid Nato vs the
the former Soviet threat (presently being revived),
the fact that Germany would be part of the Soviet Union
if not for those US bases, you know, all that down to earth real
stuff that just won't fit into a Volkswagen
There is no evidence of that. |
In the 60's I was stationed about 20 minutes by (Russian) tank from the East
German border.
Friends who tried to cross while on leave were pulled off busses and sent
back. They knew who we were and what we had.
Had they attempted such an act the US Forces would have lasted a very short
time. 20 minutes was the estimate for where I was.
That did not take into account the use of nuclear weapons.
http://www.wausaukee.com/volunteer.html
Those borders were set at the end of WWII and the paranoid Russians built
their defenses on one side to safeguard against US invasion, just like the
insane Americans did on the other side. Politics , not a token US force is
what kept the borders. |
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Chuck Stamford
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:42 am Post subject: Re: Beautiful! |
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"Van" <evanm37@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 7, 2:55 pm, JohnH <Jo...@nospam.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Van wrote:
On Aug 7, 2:04 pm, JohnH <Jo...@nospam.com> wrote:
Van wrote:
On Aug 7, 12:24 pm, JohnH <Jo...@nospam.com> wrote:
::: good news runner ::: wrote:
You're Worthy Of My Praise
I will give, you all my worship
I will give, you all my praise
You alone, I long to worship
You alone, are worthy of my praise
I will worship, with all of my heart
I will praise you, with all of my strength
I will seek you, all of my days
I will follow, all of your ways
I will give you, all my worship
I will give you, all my praise
You alone, I long to worship
You alone, are worthy of my praise
You are worthy of my praise
I will bow down, and I'll hail you as king
I will serve you, I will give you everything
I will lift up my eyes to your throne
I will trust you, I will trust you alone
I will give you all my worship
I will give you all my praise
You alone I long to worship
You alone are worthy of my praise
I will give you all my worship
I will give you all my praise
You alone I long to worship
You alone are worthy of my praise
You are worthy, You are worthy
You are worthy of my praise
Oh, I will give you all my worship
I will give you all my praise
You alone I long, I long to worship
Well, you alone are worthy of my praise
You are worthy of my praise
Did you know that there is not one Psalm, which does not say "God,"
the
"LORD," or the "Lord?" No, not one! It's certain He knew to Whom the
Psalmists were referring; however, notice that, nevertheless, this
did
not go without actually saying. Have you ever had a person carry on a
conversation with you, and not say your name, even once? If so, how
did
that make you feel? Never experienced that? Well, may you never
experience that, I say.
I've had many conversations where people dont mention my name, if you
have the brain cells to tell they're talking to you than its no
problem, my friend doesnt have to say my name every sentence so that I
know he's talking to me...
"HEy, Bro"
"Hey, Whats up?"
"Going to the movies, wanna come"
"Nah, sorry man, me and Grace were going to go hang at her place"
"You sure? Tanner and Becca are coming"
"I might catch up to you guys later"
"Alright, see you"
"Yeah, stay outta trouble"
We never even said each others name, but theres no doubt who we're
talking to...
That only covers one situation, Van, but there are at least two more:
One, where the person has totally forgotten your name, and they're too
embarrassed to admit that, or to ask you for it again.
Two, where the person is not your friend, and they don't respect you or
even like you, and that's their way of showing it.
Now, are you willing to admit that there's more than just one scenario?
calm down yankee doodle, I didnt attack you, You just said it was
disrespectful if someone doesnt address you by your name, I proved you
wrong, and Mike Painter gave you 2 more scenarios. If someone forgets
my name, I dont consider it disrespectful, I understand it because I
have trouble with names if I dont have a face to match to it. Second,
I've never had someone who hated my guts not say my name, as some sort
of subliminal insult...
Just calm down and assume I meant no harm...
Van, I am so calm that it's beyond your imagination. Also, I didn't say
that you had attacked me. And "disrespectful" was only one of the total
options (one of yours, two of mine, and those of Mike's). Personally, I
think there are *at least* three reasons why people won't say another's
name in a conversation, but I never picked one reason over the other,
and said, "That's the one." Why? Because this is a "no
one-size-fits-all" situation, in my opinion.
BTW, have you noticed that I keep steadily calling you by your name, and
that I have completely ignored the rather nasty things that you've said
to me? I'll say it again, you have a big-chip on your shoulder. Even
after I told you a little bit about myself (German ancestors, German
girlfriend, serving in the U.S. Army in Germany, whatever), just to
stimulate a friendly conversation, you latched on to the U.S. Army
"thing," and started ranting on that. So, I suggest that you need to
tell yourself to calm down, and that you try to understand that I'm not
the one who did the harm here. (Well, I might have said a little
something, but, overall, I've been taking it pretty easy with you, all
things considered.)
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I wasnt attacking you for being in the U.S. army, I was attacking the
U.S. Army, the fact that you served is great, I have family who serve
in both the German and Amerikan militarys, my family can trace its m
ilitary lineage back to a German Grenadier in WW1, then a German
Soldier in WW2, then an Amerikan soldier in Korea, then an Amerikan
Private in Iraq, An Amerikan Colonel in Afganistan and a German Major
in Afganistan. So, yes, very military family and I intend to continue
it by Joining the Bundeswehr... anyway, I was just saying that
Amerikas bases had no place in Germany anymore and should get out...
nothing against you.
Chuck:
"Economic growth is expected to slow to 1.9% in 2008 and 1.6% in 2009, a low
point for the forecast period. The main reason for stronger growth from 2010
will be high rates of domestic demand growth. However, against a background
of large global imbalances, the downside risks to our export projections
over the forecast period are substantial."
["Economist.com"; see at
http://www.economist.com/countries/Germany/profile.cfm?folder=Profile%2DEconomic%20Data]
With a slow growth economy projected for the rest of this year, and most of
next, not to mention the inherent instability created by "large global
imbalances" just mentioned by The Economist (the above German economic news
and analysis outlet online), wouldn't it be a near fatal mistake to lose one
of your bigger consumer groups; i.e., the US military in Germany? |
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