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Halleluja, I've seen Eric's light, and have turned over a new leaf!

http://tv.ksl.com/index.php?sid=209343&nid=5

Police have arrested a man accused of beating his teenage daughter. They
say he became enraged over her talking on the phone with a boy. The girl
suffered trauma to her head, neck and arms. She was taken to the
hospital and released. The girl's sister says her dad records their
phone conversations, and didn't like what he heard.

Victim's Sister: "He comes home at 1:30 in the morning, and we were all
asleep and went through that memo and heard the conversation."

She says what he heard set him off. The recorded call was between his
17-year old daughter and a boy.

Victim's Sister: "We're not allowed to date."

She says her dad, Emad Aljenabi, woke her sister then beat her on their
living room couch. She and her mother were forced to watch.

Det. Kevin Joiner, Salt Lake City Police Dept.: "He used different items
from around the home to strike her ï¿½ parts of a hose, the heavy wooden
handle of a knife."

Victim's Sister: "He had the knife and the hose and he was whipping her
and he had the little knife and he used the back of it to hit her on the
face, and he pinched her on the sides. And she was just yelling and
freaking out, and he pulled her hair and was just going crazy. And he
would make her wash up and come back and do the same thing over and over
again."

Police were called to their home this morning. They found the victim in
bed. They say she had trauma to her head, arms and legs.

Det. Kevin Joiner: "She was beaten pretty badly."

Police arrested her father, but his family still fears for their lives.

Victim's Sister: "He told yesterday my mom on the phone that no matter
how long he goes to prison, he's going to come out and kill my sister."

She says her father has hurt her before, too. She hopes justice will
keep him away for good.

Victim's Sister: "I hope he's in there for life. I don't ever want to
see him again."

Police are investigating possible past cases of abuse involving the man.
The victim is out of the hospital and is staying in a girl's group home.
She is expected to be reunited with her mother, tomorrow. The family
plans to get a restraining order against Aljenabi.

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So, what's this? A fine man just doing what his culture does, and evil
Americans *arrest* him! He might even be sent to prison! And for what?
Just beating his daughter nearly to death? Oh, for fuck's sake! How are
we supposed to win the hearts and minds of his fellows when we go and
arrest him for doing the *honorable* thing? It's not like he defaced a
Koran or something... it's just his daughter! I mean... she *talked* to
a *boy!* How can we expect the father to do anythign but what he did?

As Americans we should feel ashamed over the mistreatment of this poor man.

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hulk_arnold_hercules@yahoo.com wrote:

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hulk_arnold_hercules@yahoo.com wrote:

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I think there's a difference between stopping a man from performing abusive
acts and the act of rape-sodomizing a man or performing sex acts in front of
him, knowing that he doesn't want to see you or your girlfriend do that.

I don't know, I think there's a difference between preventing abuse and
actually abusing.

But, if rape-sodomizing grown men in order to shame them is your bag, then
that might be why you think it's okay.

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liberalb...@lycos.com wrote:

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Another perspective on Sharia Law.

http://www.ntpi.org/html/whyoppose.html

Sharia law is the instrument by which Political Islam seeks to control
the Muslim world. Whilst the Sharia may have been inspired by the Holy
Quran, it has developed and evolved through time and through the
efforts of men. The Sharia should be open to analysis, research and
criticism like any other system of law, practice and belief. Its divine
inspiration should no more shield it from criticism than Christianity
should have been spared criticism for burning heretics or massacring
unbelievers. The more pernicious interpretations of the Sharia today
fall far short of the minimum standards of justice widely demanded by
the international community and by Muslims and non-Muslims alike.

The Sharia should be opposed for its imposition of theocracy over
democracy, its abuse of human rights, its institutionalized
discrimination, its denial of human dignity and individual autonomy,
its punishment of alternative lifestyle choices, and for the severity
of its punishments.

In the west, in countries that have a sizable Muslim population, there
have been calls for the Sharia to be adopted for the Muslim community.
These calls should be vigorously opposed; the Sharia conflicts with
many basic human values, such as equality before the law, that
punishments should be commensurate with the crime, and that the law
must be based on the will of the people. The Sharia as it developed in
the first few centuries of Islam incorporated many pre-Islamic
Middle-Eastern misogynist and tribal customs and traditions. The Sharia
was developed not only from the Holy Quran but incorporates legal
principles from other sects. We may ask how a law whose elements were
first laid down over 1,000 years ago can possibly be relevant in the
21st century. The Sharia reflects the social and economic conditions at
the time of the Abbasids and has become further and further out of
touch with later social, economic, technological, cultural and moral
developments. The principles of the Sharia are inimical to moral
progress, humanity and civilized values.

The problem for all of us is how to oppose the violations of human
rights inherent in the Sharia without being accused of blasphemy or
apostasy. We would suggest that the answer lies in a return to the Five
Pillars of Islam.

For non-Muslims who want to help, the problem is how to avoid charges
of cultural imperialism, neocolonialism and racism, or of failing to
respect "the other". But cultural relativism is not the answer. In
India, each religion has its own social laws. Muslim women do not enjoy
the same rights as Hindu women. Why not? Justice cries out for
secularism. One law for all - equality before the law - for Muslims
and non-Muslims, for men and women alike, must be the answer.

Many of the arguments for permitting each religion or culture to
determine its own laws are based on a misunderstanding of the nature of
human rights. Human rights as defined in the UDHR are vested in the
individual, not the group. As soon as rights are accorded to a group
rather than to individuals, conflict becomes possible not only between
one group and another, but between the group and its own members. Any
group that denies the right of its members to leave is in contravention
of one of the most fundamental principles of human rights. Yet clearly,
one of the reasons for the growth of Islam over the past century has
been that becoming a Muslim is a one-way street. Whether by birth or
conversion (historically likely to have been a forced conversion) once
you are a Muslim the only way out, under the Sharia, is death.

When Political Islam really does advocate jihad to achieve world
domination, then anyone deeply concerned with humanity and human rights
will be critical. Of all the existing ideologies, Political Islam
remains the greatest danger to humanity. Political Islam has been
neither tamed nor moderated by progressive forces. It has the power to
inspire the terrorist mind, and, through its ties to oil-rich states,
the funds to pursue its plans.

Islamic apologists often claim that many so-called violations of human
rights are based on a misreading of the Holy Quran and will quote this
or that sura in its defense. But the arguments against Political Islam
are not against the holy texts but against the Sharia as it is
practiced today in Islamic states. We are told that Islam is a religion
of peace and that the struggle, jihad, to impose Islam by conquest is
not to be taken literally. But for Political Islam it is. Ask the
suicide bombers. The only possible response to the charge of
misunderstanding or misreading Islam is to look at the reality of what
is happening in those countries such as Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia
and northern Nigeria where the Sharia now holds sway.

The world is a battleground of social movements and ideas. It took
people in the west over 400 years of often-bloody struggle to gain the
right to criticize Christianity. Even now, that right is still not
fully recognized. In Britain, for example, there is still a law against
blasphemy, and many Islamic clerics have argued that it should be
extended to cover Islam as well. It should be scrapped. Once we are
prevented from expressing our point of view in the market place of
ideas we will be heading back to the Dark Ages.

We must recognize that we now live in a global community. Society is
far larger, more diverse and far more complex than the primitive tribal
society of 7th century Arabia that gave birth to Islam. It is time to
renounce the idea that anyone should be ruled exclusively by the
Sharia. More than ever before, people need a secular state that
respects freedom of religion, and freedom from religion for those that
have none, and human rights founded on the principle that power belongs
to the people. This means that we must reject the claims of the
Islamists that sovereignty belongs exclusively to Allah - by which
they mean His representatives, that is, themselves. Indeed it demands
that the very concept of an Islamic state be challenged. The imposition
of Sharia law for political ends must be opposed.

What is needed is nothing less than the secularization of Islamic
society, and the establishment of the idea that individual conscience
must be our guide and the judge of personal, private conduct. But
secularization cannot be imposed from outside by force. Attempts by
America and its allies to impose democracy and human rights on the
Islamic world will rightly be resisted as neocolonialism and will
simply drive more and more Muslims into the arms of the extremists. The
onus is on us to promote the ideals of personal freedom, progress and
change from within Muslim society, with help from those in the rest of
the world who share our ideals and hopes for the future.

We call on all Muslims and all who value freedom, democracy and human
rights to support our campaign: NO to Political Islam, YES to Human
Rights.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Islam

Another interesting page.


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