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Neolithic wrote:
| Quote: | On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 00:32:28 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
dirk.bruere@gmail.com> wrote:
Neolithic wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:24:42 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
dirk.bruere@gmail.com> wrote:
Attuarii wrote:
Doug Freyburger wrote:
Attuarii <chatten...@germania.sup> wrote:
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/32nd_degree_ritual.htm
"32nd degree ritual from the Authentic Scottish Rite Ritual"
...
"From the freemason's own high level ritual we see MITRA identified and
defined:
MITRA -- The fire, the dawn, the morning star. (Lucifer, not Yeshua or
Jesus, is the god of freemasonry)
Make no mistake about it freemasonry is Mithraism, the worship of
Mithra, which is one of the many names of Lucifer or Satan the devil.
Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the
morning (Lucifer usurps Yeshua's title of the morning star)! how art
thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
AGNI is another part of the freemason's Ineffable Word.
From the 32nd degree ritual we are informed of AGNI who was borrowed
from the Hindu worship of Lucifer or Mithra before the Persians named
him Mitra. AGNI, INDRA, and VISHNU: Fire, Light, and Heat, the first
trinity and their manifestation in the skies. The interpretations of
these symbols will reveal the Holy Doctrine. The one great idea from
which they have been unfolded is the Royal Secret."
Having been through two difference 32nd degrees in two
different jurisdictions that's not part of either.
Of course, it gets worse the more one googles using keywords like
Jewish, Nazi, occult, Lucifer, Satan, KKK etc etc
In other words it's typical misdirection by kooks. Check,
sure is.
I actually went to the Supreme Council of the Scottish Rite to get my
information. They did have a copy of the Zend Avesta on the alter.
Note that English Masonry dates from 1717 and the Scottish
Rite in the US dates from the early 1800s with extensive
rewrites in the late 1800s after the US Civil War when
former citizens in the rebel states no longer had the option
of civic activities so they focused on Masonry. Note that in
that era being open to friendship with members of more than
one protestant denomination would be viewed as expressing
support for freedom of religion and being friends with catholics
would have been viewed as taking freedom of religion to an
extreme. Scottish Rite altars have king james, kenach,
koran, zend avesta and sometimes even a lotus sutra on
them. For the era the degrees were written this was religious
freedom taken far beyond the ken of most individuals. Yes,
to us in Asatru in 2008 CE it seems pretty provincial now,
but not when taken in context.
I've
enjoyed my visits to the Masonic sites around DC, and the people have
been generous with their time, and quite cordial. The House of the
Temple, the headquarters building of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry,
Southern Jurisdiction, U.S.A.
(http://scottishrite.org/visitors/vtour.html), is a marvelous structure.
The pipe organ in the Temple Room blew me away.
There's also the George Washington Masonic Memorial
building were several lodges meet. I expect to participate
in a travelling degree demonstration there next May and I
figure I'll tour the SR building during my optional time.
Yes, I went there last week.
Trying to find an Asatru correlation. Normally anti-Masonic
stuff like the above is cited by kooks who think Masonry is
not Christian enough and here's Attuarii complaining that
it's too Christian. Plus sa change, plus sa mem chose.
It's too much like kooks finding some sort of non-Asatru
storm front web page and then making up a lie that Asatru
is neo-nazi because some neo-nazi idiots try to mimic our
material.
It is undeniable that Masonry draws heavily from biblical themes.
They are really Satanists For Jesus.
Luciferians for Lucifer is more like it.
I don't have a problem with that.
If I was defining within that mythology I'd be a Luciferian.
There you go eh?
There's food for thought.
Neolithic
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luciferianism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Karlsson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcmujldjQIo
FFF
Dirk
http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
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On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:11:36 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
<dirk.bruere@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Neolithic wrote:
On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 00:32:28 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
dirk.bruere@gmail.com> wrote:
Neolithic wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:24:42 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
dirk.bruere@gmail.com> wrote:
Attuarii wrote:
Doug Freyburger wrote:
Attuarii <chatten...@germania.sup> wrote:
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/32nd_degree_ritual.htm
"32nd degree ritual from the Authentic Scottish Rite Ritual"
...
"From the freemason's own high level ritual we see MITRA identified and
defined:
MITRA -- The fire, the dawn, the morning star. (Lucifer, not Yeshua or
Jesus, is the god of freemasonry)
Make no mistake about it freemasonry is Mithraism, the worship of
Mithra, which is one of the many names of Lucifer or Satan the devil.
Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the
morning (Lucifer usurps Yeshua's title of the morning star)! how art
thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
AGNI is another part of the freemason's Ineffable Word.
From the 32nd degree ritual we are informed of AGNI who was borrowed
from the Hindu worship of Lucifer or Mithra before the Persians named
him Mitra. AGNI, INDRA, and VISHNU: Fire, Light, and Heat, the first
trinity and their manifestation in the skies. The interpretations of
these symbols will reveal the Holy Doctrine. The one great idea from
which they have been unfolded is the Royal Secret."
Having been through two difference 32nd degrees in two
different jurisdictions that's not part of either.
Of course, it gets worse the more one googles using keywords like
Jewish, Nazi, occult, Lucifer, Satan, KKK etc etc
In other words it's typical misdirection by kooks. Check,
sure is.
I actually went to the Supreme Council of the Scottish Rite to get my
information. They did have a copy of the Zend Avesta on the alter.
Note that English Masonry dates from 1717 and the Scottish
Rite in the US dates from the early 1800s with extensive
rewrites in the late 1800s after the US Civil War when
former citizens in the rebel states no longer had the option
of civic activities so they focused on Masonry. Note that in
that era being open to friendship with members of more than
one protestant denomination would be viewed as expressing
support for freedom of religion and being friends with catholics
would have been viewed as taking freedom of religion to an
extreme. Scottish Rite altars have king james, kenach,
koran, zend avesta and sometimes even a lotus sutra on
them. For the era the degrees were written this was religious
freedom taken far beyond the ken of most individuals. Yes,
to us in Asatru in 2008 CE it seems pretty provincial now,
but not when taken in context.
I've
enjoyed my visits to the Masonic sites around DC, and the people have
been generous with their time, and quite cordial. The House of the
Temple, the headquarters building of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry,
Southern Jurisdiction, U.S.A.
(http://scottishrite.org/visitors/vtour.html), is a marvelous structure.
The pipe organ in the Temple Room blew me away.
There's also the George Washington Masonic Memorial
building were several lodges meet. I expect to participate
in a travelling degree demonstration there next May and I
figure I'll tour the SR building during my optional time.
Yes, I went there last week.
Trying to find an Asatru correlation. Normally anti-Masonic
stuff like the above is cited by kooks who think Masonry is
not Christian enough and here's Attuarii complaining that
it's too Christian. Plus sa change, plus sa mem chose.
It's too much like kooks finding some sort of non-Asatru
storm front web page and then making up a lie that Asatru
is neo-nazi because some neo-nazi idiots try to mimic our
material.
It is undeniable that Masonry draws heavily from biblical themes.
They are really Satanists For Jesus.
Luciferians for Lucifer is more like it.
I don't have a problem with that.
If I was defining within that mythology I'd be a Luciferian.
There you go eh?
There's food for thought.
Neolithic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luciferianism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Karlsson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcmujldjQIo
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qnogbc_mRFc
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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
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Neolithic wrote:
| Quote: | On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:11:36 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
dirk.bruere@gmail.com> wrote:
Neolithic wrote:
On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 00:32:28 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
dirk.bruere@gmail.com> wrote:
Neolithic wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:24:42 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
dirk.bruere@gmail.com> wrote:
Attuarii wrote:
Doug Freyburger wrote:
Attuarii <chatten...@germania.sup> wrote:
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/32nd_degree_ritual.htm
"32nd degree ritual from the Authentic Scottish Rite Ritual"
...
"From the freemason's own high level ritual we see MITRA identified and
defined:
MITRA -- The fire, the dawn, the morning star. (Lucifer, not Yeshua or
Jesus, is the god of freemasonry)
Make no mistake about it freemasonry is Mithraism, the worship of
Mithra, which is one of the many names of Lucifer or Satan the devil.
Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the
morning (Lucifer usurps Yeshua's title of the morning star)! how art
thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
AGNI is another part of the freemason's Ineffable Word.
From the 32nd degree ritual we are informed of AGNI who was borrowed
from the Hindu worship of Lucifer or Mithra before the Persians named
him Mitra. AGNI, INDRA, and VISHNU: Fire, Light, and Heat, the first
trinity and their manifestation in the skies. The interpretations of
these symbols will reveal the Holy Doctrine. The one great idea from
which they have been unfolded is the Royal Secret."
Having been through two difference 32nd degrees in two
different jurisdictions that's not part of either.
Of course, it gets worse the more one googles using keywords like
Jewish, Nazi, occult, Lucifer, Satan, KKK etc etc
In other words it's typical misdirection by kooks. Check,
sure is.
I actually went to the Supreme Council of the Scottish Rite to get my
information. They did have a copy of the Zend Avesta on the alter.
Note that English Masonry dates from 1717 and the Scottish
Rite in the US dates from the early 1800s with extensive
rewrites in the late 1800s after the US Civil War when
former citizens in the rebel states no longer had the option
of civic activities so they focused on Masonry. Note that in
that era being open to friendship with members of more than
one protestant denomination would be viewed as expressing
support for freedom of religion and being friends with catholics
would have been viewed as taking freedom of religion to an
extreme. Scottish Rite altars have king james, kenach,
koran, zend avesta and sometimes even a lotus sutra on
them. For the era the degrees were written this was religious
freedom taken far beyond the ken of most individuals. Yes,
to us in Asatru in 2008 CE it seems pretty provincial now,
but not when taken in context.
I've
enjoyed my visits to the Masonic sites around DC, and the people have
been generous with their time, and quite cordial. The House of the
Temple, the headquarters building of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry,
Southern Jurisdiction, U.S.A.
(http://scottishrite.org/visitors/vtour.html), is a marvelous structure.
The pipe organ in the Temple Room blew me away.
There's also the George Washington Masonic Memorial
building were several lodges meet. I expect to participate
in a travelling degree demonstration there next May and I
figure I'll tour the SR building during my optional time.
Yes, I went there last week.
Trying to find an Asatru correlation. Normally anti-Masonic
stuff like the above is cited by kooks who think Masonry is
not Christian enough and here's Attuarii complaining that
it's too Christian. Plus sa change, plus sa mem chose.
It's too much like kooks finding some sort of non-Asatru
storm front web page and then making up a lie that Asatru
is neo-nazi because some neo-nazi idiots try to mimic our
material.
It is undeniable that Masonry draws heavily from biblical themes.
They are really Satanists For Jesus.
Luciferians for Lucifer is more like it.
I don't have a problem with that.
If I was defining within that mythology I'd be a Luciferian.
There you go eh?
There's food for thought.
Neolithic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luciferianism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Karlsson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcmujldjQIo
Some more:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qnogbc_mRFc
Neolithic
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Thanks - a blast from the past!
Luciferianism has moved on aways since then.
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Commentary/Luciferianism.htm
" Transhumanism offers an updated, hi-tech variety of Luciferianism. The
appellation "Transhumanism" was coined by evolutionary biologist Julian
Huxley ("Transhumanism," Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, no
pagination). Huxley defined the transhuman condition as "man remaining
man, but transcending himself, by realizing new possibilities of and for
his human nature" (no pagination). However, by 1990, Dr. Max More would
radically redefine Transhumanism as follows:
Transhumanism is a class of philosophies that seek to guide us
towards a posthuman condition. Transhumanism shares many elements of
humanism, including a respect for reason and science, a commitment to
progress, and a valuing of human (or transhuman) existence in this life…
Transhumanism differs from humanism in recognizing and anticipating the
radical alterations in the nature and possibilities of our lives
resulting from various sciences and technologies… (No pagination)
Transhumanism advocates the use of nanotechnology, biotechnology,
cognitive science, and information technology to propel humanity into a
"posthuman" condition. Once he has arrived at this condition, man will
cease to be man. He will become a machine, immune to death and all the
other "weaknesses" intrinsic to his former human condition. The ultimate
objective is to become a god. Transhumanism is closely aligned with the
cult of artificial intelligence. In the very influential book The Age of
Spiritual Machines, AI high priest Ray Kurzweil asserts that
technological immortality could be achieved through magnetic resonance
imaging or some technique of reading and replicating the human brain's
neural structure within a computer ("Technological Immortality," no
pagination). Through the merger of computers and humans, Kurzweil
believes that man will "become god-like spirits inhabiting cyberspace as
well as the material universe" (no pagination).
Following the Biblical revisionist tradition of the Gnostic Hypostasis
myth, Transhumanists invert the roles of God and Satan. In an essay
entitled "In Praise of the Devil," Transhumanist ideologue Max More
depicts Lucifer as a heroic rebel against a tyrannical God:
The Devil—Lucifer—is a force for good (where I define 'good' simply
as that which I value, not wanting to imply any universal validity or
necessity to the orientation). 'Lucifer' means 'light-bringer' and this
should begin to clue us in to his symbolic importance. The story is that
God threw Lucifer out of Heaven because Lucifer had started to question
God and was spreading dissension among the angels. We must remember that
this story is told from the point of view of the Godists (if I may coin
a term) and not from that of the Luciferians (I will use this term to
distinguish us from the official Satanists with whom I have fundamental
differences). The truth may just as easily be that Lucifer resigned from
heaven. (No pagination)
According to More, Lucifer probably exiled himself out of moral outrage
towards the oppressive Jehovah:
God, being the well-documented sadist that he is, no doubt wanted
to keep Lucifer around so that he could punish him and try to get him
back under his (God's) power. Probably what really happened was that
Lucifer came to hate God's kingdom, his sadism, his demand for slavish
conformity and obedience, his psychotic rage at any display of
independent thinking and behavior. Lucifer realized that he could never
fully think for himself and could certainly not act on his independent
thinking so long as he was under God's control. Therefore he left
Heaven, that terrible spiritual-State ruled by the cosmic sadist
Jehovah, and was accompanied by some of the angels who had had enough
courage to question God's authority and his value-perspective. (No
pagination)
More proceeds to reiterate 33rd Degree Mason Albert Pike's depiction of
Lucifer:
Lucifer is the embodiment of reason, of intelligence, of critical
thought. He stands against the dogma of God and all other dogmas. He
stands for the exploration of new ideas and new perspectives in the
pursuit of truth. (No pagination)
Lucifer is even considered a patron saint by some Transhumanists
("Transtopian Symbolism," no pagination). Transhumanism retains the
paradigmatic character of Luciferianism, albeit in a futurist context.
Worse still, Transhumanism is hardly some marginalized cult. Richard
Hayes, executive director of the Center for Genetics and Society,
elaborates:
Last June at Yale University, the World Transhumanist Association
held its first national conference. The Transhumanists have chapters in
more than 20 countries and advocate the breeding of "genetically
enriched" forms of "post-human" beings. Other advocates of the new
techno-eugenics, such as Princeton University professor Lee Silver,
predict that by the end of this century, "All aspects of the economy,
the media, the entertainment industry, and the knowledge industry [will
be] controlled by members of the GenRich class. . .Naturals [will] work
as low-paid service providers or as laborers. . ." (No pagination)
With a growing body of academic luminaries and a techno-eugenical vision
for the future, Transhumanism is carrying the banner of Luciferianism
into the 21st century. Through genetic engineering and biotechnological
augmentation of the physical body, Transhumanists are attempting to
achieve the very same objective of their patron saint.
I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars
of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides
of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be
like the most High. (Isaiah 14:13-14)
This declaration reflects the aspirations of the power elite as well.
Whatever form the Luciferian religion assumes throughout the years, its
goal remains the same: Apotheosis. "
FFF
Dirk
http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.onetribe.me.uk/wordpress/?cat=5 - Our podcasts on weird stuff |
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