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On 18 Aug, 22:13, SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net> wrote:
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The Mesha stele? No, it doesn't mention David. It mentions a King Omri.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesha_Stele
No, not the Mesha. I know that the stele in question mentions King
David specifically. My cite for this is the PBS series _Unearthing
the Bible_, which I've watched several times. Sorry I can't get more
specific than that right now, but I'm at work, my books are at home.
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This is the translation of the Mesha Stele:
"I am Mesha, son of Kemosh[-yatti], the king of Moab, the Dibonite. My
father was king over Moab for thirty years, and I became king after my
father. And I made this high-place for Kemosh in Qarcho . . . because
he has delivered me from all kings, and because he has made me look
down on all my enemies.
Omri was the king of Israel, and he oppressed Moab for many days, for
Kemosh was angry with his land. And his son reigned in his place; and
he also said, "I will oppress Moab!" In my days he said so. But I
looked down on him and on his house, and Israel has been defeated; it
has been defeated forever! And Omri took possession of the whole land
of Medeba, and he lived there in his days and half the days of his
son: forty years. But Kemosh restored it in my days. And I built Baal
Meon, and I built a water reservoir in it. And I built Qiryaten. And
the men of Gad lived in the land of Atarot from ancient times; and the
king of Israel built Atarot for himself, and I fought against the city
and captured it. And I killed all the people of the city as a
sacrifice for Kemosh and for Moab. And I brought back the fire-hearth
of his uncle from there; and I brought it before the face of Kemosh in
Qerioit, and I made the men of Sharon live there, as well as the men
of Maharit.
And Kemosh said to me, "Go, take Nebo from Israel." And I went in the
night and fought against it from the daybreak until midday, and I took
it and I killed the whole population: seven thousand male subjects and
aliens, and female subjects, aliens, and servant girls. For I had put
it to the ban for Ashtar Kemosh. And from there I took the vessels of
Yahweh, and I presented them before the face of Kemosh. And the king
of Israel had built Yahaz, and he stayed there throughout his campaign
against me; and Kemosh drove him away before my face. And I took two
hundred men of Moab, all its division, and I led it up to Yahaz. And I
have taken it in order to add it to Dibon. I have built Qarcho, the
wall of the woods and the wall of the citadel; and I have built its
gates; and I have built its towers; and I have built the house of the
king; and I have made the double reservoir for the spring in the
innermost part of the city. Now the innermost part of the city had no
cistern, in Qarcho, and I said to all the people, "Each one of you
shall make a cistern in his house." And I cut the moat for Qarcho by
using Israelite prisoners. I have built Aroer, and I constructed the
military road in Arnon. I have built Beth-Bamot, for it had been
destroyed. I have built Bezer, for it lay in ruins. And the men of
Dibon stood in battle formation, for all Dibon were in subjection. And
I am the king over the hundreds in the towns which I have added to the
land. And I have built Beth-Medeba and Beth-Diblaten and Beth-Baal-
Meon, and I brought there . . . flocks of the the land. And Hauranen,
there lived
. . . Kemosh said to me, "Go down, fight against Hauranen!" I went
down
. . . and Kemosh restored it in my days . . .."
I can't see any mention of David here.
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adman
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:12 pm Post subject: Re: Intelligent Design Fellow Gives the Game Away - ID not a |
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Syd M. wrote:
| Quote: | On Aug 18, 11:02 pm, "adman" <g...@hotmail.et> wrote:
Smiler wrote:
"adman" <g...@hotmail.et> wrote in message
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Science lies everyday with unproven theories. If that was not bad
enough, they present such lies in the classroom as truth.
Still no evidence, I see.
Still no common sense i see
Still no answer, I see...
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Theories change. Therfore they were not 100% true in the first place |
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adman
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:17 pm Post subject: Re: Intelligent Design Fellow Gives the Game Away - ID not a |
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Cory Albrecht wrote:
| Quote: | adman wrote, On 18/08/08 11:04 PM:
SkyEyes wrote:
1. You keep asserting
no, i pretty much say you are wrong'
And that would be asserting.
So are you ever going to back up your assertions with evidence? I'm
still waiting for corroboration of Moses.
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your asking for something you already know cannot be provided. which makes
you dishonest.
Do you actually believe that Moses is just a huge lie? Which would make
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adman
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Budikka666 wrote:
| Quote: | On Aug 17, 5:36 pm, "adman" <g...@hotmail.et> wrote:
Budikka666 wrote:
On Aug 12, 8:14 pm, "Mike Painter" <mddotpain...@sbcglobal.net
wrote:
adman wrote:
"Budikka666" <budik...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2008/08/discovery-insti-8.html
"The important thing about Intelligent Design is that it is not a
theory - which is something I think they need to make more clear.
Nor is Intelligent Design an explanation. Intelligent Design is a
challenge. It's a challenge to evolution. It does not replace
evolution with something else."
Budikka
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Do you actually BELIEVE that the entire universe, with us
included, is an undirected process that totally developed ALL by
itself?
It does not matter what an individual believes. Science works on
evidence. If you have more than what you believe then offer it.
Speaking out in defense of the abocve shows how far you are from
science.
You are trying to referee a football game with baseball rules.
Don't you realize that in a couple hundred years people will be
laughing at your scientific discoveries of today, just as this
generation laughs at what mankind believed just a few hundred
short years ago?
Name some.
Yet the only consistant information regarding our existance that
continues to survive to this very day, (regardless of the
variations and errors it contains), are the historical traditions
about God, and the concept of God and Creation.
Ther's also the little people, faries, and all teh gods worshipped
by two thirds of teh world.
Science and theories will come and go. God will remain the same as
He has for thousands of years. The proof of that fact is the idea
of God is still here thousands of years latter. Yet your science
comes and goes with each new baby step it takes called revisions.
Mankind believed in your type of religion a few hundrd yewars ago
and science changed that.
Madman isn't the slightest bit interested in evidence or in
discussing/ weighing/comparing it. All he's interested in is
insulting atheists and demanding that they bow to his
unsubstantiated, unsupported, bullshit and lies. That's why he's
now on my ignore list. He's a waste of skin. I advise all other
atheists to ditch him as well.
He's quite evidently not worth any more electrons than have already
been expended on him..
iow i kicked your butt now you will run and instruct others to run
It was in March this year. In a thread that began as "An Opportunity
for Intelligent Design to be Scientific", I posted a long message from
which adman fled. The message title was "Sadman Demonstrates his
Profound Ignorance of Science" (and indeed he did!).
Instead of addressing what I wrote, adman responded solely with this:
"When you admit that the big bang is moot because the singularity
cannot be proven, THEN i will debate your other topics in full and in
public."
I responded on March 30th with "I admit that the big bang is moot
because the singularity cannot be proven." and retitled the thread
"Adman-Budikka debate Begins".
Adman responded the next day with "She wins. I loose. Good by." and
that was that! That's proof beyond any shadow of a doubt that adman
is a coward, a hypocrite and a liar (as well as functionally
illiterate, which probably explains why he knows squat about evolution
- or even creation for that matter).
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You call someone "conceding" running? And i am supose to be illiterate?
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Cary Kittrell
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"adman" <grat@hotmail.et>
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Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <8Qmqk.12411$kh2.7299@bignews3.bellsouth.net> "adman"
grat@hotmail.et> writes:
Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article
a1b5ab65-67b3-4d80-bdcd-4f1515303cba@v26g2000prm.googlegroups.com
SkyEyes <skyeyes9@cox.net> writes:
On Aug 17, 1:34=A0pm, "adman" <g...@hotmail.et> wrote:
SkyEyes wrote:
On Aug 15, 7:40 pm, Cory Albrecht <coryalbre...@hotmail.com
wrote:
adman wrote, On 15/08/08 10:20 PM:
Cory Albrecht wrote:
adman wrote, On 15/08/08 05:51 PM:
Cory Albrecht wrote:
adman wrote, On 15/08/08 05:17 PM:
"Cory Albrecht" <coryalbre...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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adman wrote, On 15/08/08 10:36 AM:
"bob young" <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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adman wrote:
"Stan-O" <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:36:34 -0500, "adman"
g...@hotmail.et> wrote:
OOOO...snap! I can't wait to see this Josh McDowell
wannabe wiggle out
of this one
Laugh!
Moses wrote down what others had seen k00ks. There
WERE other written down
traditions //before// the bible.
IOW, Moses was a plagiarist.
Moses was a great author that used all available
information at his disposal
Wrong; he was a charlatan and a liar, claiming to have
chatted with a god on a mountain top, simply to get "
Ooohs" and 'Aaahs" from his admiring crowd of followers.
Xtian charlatans have been hanging on to his coat tails
ever since
Prove me wrong
YOU made the claim. Prove Moses lied. Prove he did not
talk to God.
Or has the WORLD been wrong all this time while only Bob
is right?
How about you proving that Moses existed, first.
How do you know your
great,great,great,great,great,great,great,great,great,great,
grandfather existed?
Because I wouldn't be here if my ancestors did not exist?
Are you claiming that you are descended from Moses? Because
you still haven't even shown any evidence that he existed.
Moses was real. If you had read the bible you would know that
fact
Ah. So the Bible is proof the the Bible is true?
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No, History is proof the Bible is real.
OK. Show show me historical evidence that Moses and the
Patriarchs existed. Or Kinds Saul, David or Solomon. How about
Ezra or Nehemiah? Joshua?
Oddly enough, King David was a real person, according to
archaeologists Israel Finkelstein =A0(Tel Aviv University) =A0and
Neil Silberman. =A0His name has been found on a stela written in
(IIRC) the language of the ancient Moabites.
But that's to be expected: all myths, from every culture, are
fictional stories with supernatural elements, but they're all
hung on
a scaffolding of "real" geography (see any one of a number of
Joseph Campbell's books, where he talks about this). =A0Sometimes
persons mentioned in the myths actually existed. =A0Where one
gets into trouble is when one tries to read myth as *history*.
=A0It isn't. =A0It's usual=
ly
impossible to tell which mythic characters are historical and
which are fictional, and while the geographical locations of
each myth might exist, that doesn't mean the supernatural
elements of the myth are factual. =A0That's where nutters like
adman run off the rails.
Oh puleezzee. i have forgotten more history then you have probably
read i=
n
your entire life
Your lack of a rational response is duly noted, as well as the
implications of your inability to frame one.
And as for having your having forgotten more history than I've read
in my lifetime? Don't fucking bet on it, Sparky. I've spent a
lifetime with my nose in books, and history is one of my favorite
subjects.
Well, in all fairness `adman' appears to have read a lot of
history too.
Most of it of the Velikovsky-von Daniken-Lin Liangtai school
of historical thought.
arf arf arf ! *seal claps for you* ---you made a funny!
AND...It's Velikovsky, Erich von Daniken, and von Flanderen, Not that
jibberish you wrote.
Oh, you should read some other threads in this group besides
your own. Lin Liangtai makes von Daniken look like a member
of the Royal Society.
no disagreement THERE!
get your facts and history right.
And how do you know aliens were not responsible for the pyramids and
other historic artifacts?
How do you know that I did not <POOF!> speak the pyramids into
existence in my incartation as Kharnaghat the Inscrutable, lo these many
millennia ago?
Because THAT would be impossible silly gurl.
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What? You don't believe in reincarnation? What are you,
some kind of sterile joyless skeptic?
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Ever read of "the watchers"? Ancient vedas? Thats all history too.
Just not your generally accepted history.
True, true -- in the same sense that the writings of Edgar Allen Poe
is not your generally accepted ornithology.
no no no no no....NO. HUGE difference in Poe's writings and an ancient
people scared shitless of a race of (angels) or aliens or what ever you
want to call them.
it is really THAT s-i-m-p-l-e
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And here I thought that maybe, just maybe, we had just now established
that there is at least one thing so silly that even you wouldn't
fall for it.
Guess not.
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Cary Kittrell
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"adman" <grat@hotmail.et> writes:
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Cary Kittrell wrote:
"adman" <grat@hotmail.et
SkyEyes wrote:
On Aug 17, 1:34 pm, "adman" <g...@hotmail.et> wrote:
SkyEyes wrote:
On Aug 15, 7:40 pm, Cory Albrecht <coryalbre...@hotmail.com
wrote:
adman wrote, On 15/08/08 10:20 PM:
Cory Albrecht wrote:
adman wrote, On 15/08/08 05:51 PM:
Cory Albrecht wrote:
adman wrote, On 15/08/08 05:17 PM:
"Cory Albrecht" <coryalbre...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7dsgn5xfoh.ln2@xanadu.fenris.cjb.net...
adman wrote, On 15/08/08 10:36 AM:
"bob young" <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:48A50A25.D6B48D36@netvigator.com...
adman wrote:
"Stan-O" <bndsna...@aol.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:36:34 -0500, "adman"
g...@hotmail.et> wrote:
OOOO...snap! I can't wait to see this Josh McDowell
wannabe wiggle out
of this one
Laugh!
Moses wrote down what others had seen k00ks. There
WERE other written down
traditions //before// the bible.
IOW, Moses was a plagiarist.
Moses was a great author that used all available
information at his disposal
Wrong; he was a charlatan and a liar, claiming to have
chatted with a god on a mountain top, simply to get "
Ooohs" and 'Aaahs" from his admiring crowd of followers.
Xtian charlatans have been hanging on to his coat tails
ever since
Prove me wrong
YOU made the claim. Prove Moses lied. Prove he did not
talk to God.
Or has the WORLD been wrong all this time while only Bob
is right?
How about you proving that Moses existed, first.
How do you know your
great,great,great,great,great,great,great,great,great,great,
grandfather existed?
Because I wouldn't be here if my ancestors did not exist?
Are you claiming that you are descended from Moses? Because
you still haven't even shown any evidence that he existed.
Moses was real. If you had read the bible you would know that
fact
Ah. So the Bible is proof the the Bible is true?
'
No, History is proof the Bible is real.
OK. Show show me historical evidence that Moses and the
Patriarchs existed. Or Kinds Saul, David or Solomon. How about
Ezra or Nehemiah? Joshua?
Oddly enough, King David was a real person, according to
archaeologists Israel Finkelstein (Tel Aviv University) and Neil
Silberman. His name has been found on a stela written in (IIRC)
the language of the ancient Moabites.
But that's to be expected: all myths, from every culture, are
fictional stories with supernatural elements, but they're all hung
on a scaffolding of "real" geography (see any one of a number of
Joseph Campbell's books, where he talks about this). Sometimes
persons mentioned in the myths actually existed. Where one gets
into trouble is when one tries to read myth as *history*. It
isn't. It's usually impossible to tell which mythic characters are
historical and which are fictional, and while the geographical
locations of each myth might exist, that doesn't mean the
supernatural elements of the myth are factual. That's where
nutters like adman run off the rails.
Oh puleezzee. i have forgotten more history then you have probably
read in your entire life
Your lack of a rational response is duly noted, as well as the
implications of your inability to frame one.
And as for having your having forgotten more history than I've read
in my lifetime? Don't fucking bet on it, Sparky. I've spent a
lifetime with my nose in books, and history is one of my favorite
subjects.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net
Well, i guess i will have to conceed to your extrodinary edcuational
level of "Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding" and
admit that a cat herder knows more about history then I.
Oh, after exchanging many correspondences with Brenda on a wide
variety of topics, I'd bet the farm -- and mind you, I actually do
own a farm -- on the likelihood of her knowing far more history than
you.
WELL!
arent YOU SPECIAL.
but is highly unlikely she knows more about ancient history then me.
HIGHLY unlikely,
Any questions?
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Okay.
Question One: how come you can't tell Brenda and me apart?
--cary
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-- cary
chuckle> yea riiiight!
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John Baker
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On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:02:32 -0500, "adman" <grat@hotmail.et> wrote:
| Quote: | Smiler wrote:
"adman" <grat@hotmail.et> wrote in message
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Science lies everyday with unproven theories. If that was not bad
enough, they present such lies in the classroom as truth.
Still no evidence, I see.
Still no common sense i see
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This from an ignorant creationist imbecile who shows no indication of
*any* sense, common or otherwise.
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Admin,
The one of God
God .# 1
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John Baker
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:58:44 -0700 (PDT), "Syd M."
<pdwright42@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Aug 18, 11:02 pm, "adman" <g...@hotmail.et> wrote:
Smiler wrote:
"adman" <g...@hotmail.et> wrote in message
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Science lies everyday with unproven theories. If that was not bad
enough, they present such lies in the classroom as truth.
Still no evidence, I see.
Still no common sense i see
Still no answer, I see...
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Answers from arseboy? Most of the time, he doesn't even understand the
questions.
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John Baker
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:43:06 +0100, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
| Quote: | Mike Painter wrote:
adman wrote:
Cory Albrecht wrote:
adman wrote, On 17/08/08 09:51 AM:
DanielSan wrote:
adman wrote:
And every theory has remained the same since this method was
developed?
No.
so science changed
No. the theories, changed, science (a.k.a. scientific methodology)
didn't.
You're having real trouble with the concept of changing one's views
based upon new evidence, eh?
No, i have a problem with a theory claimed to be true and latter
turns out to be wrong when the new evidence shows up.
That's because you still don't have an understanding of what a theory
is.
Or an understanding of what evidence is.
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Arseboy knows what evidence is. He also knows he doesn't have any.
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Smiler,
The godless one
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Syd M.
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On Aug 19, 6:12 am, "adman" <g...@hotmail.et> wrote:
| Quote: | Syd M. wrote:
On Aug 18, 11:02 pm, "adman" <g...@hotmail.et> wrote:
Smiler wrote:
"adman" <g...@hotmail.et> wrote in message
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Science lies everyday with unproven theories. If that was not bad
enough, they present such lies in the classroom as truth.
Still no evidence, I see.
Still no common sense i see
Still no answer, I see...
Theories change. Therfore they were not 100% true in the first place
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Religions change. Therefore, they are not 100% true at all.
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Syd M.
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On Aug 19, 8:54 am, John Baker <nu...@bizniz.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:43:06 +0100, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com
wrote:
Mike Painter wrote:
adman wrote:
Cory Albrecht wrote:
adman wrote, On 17/08/08 09:51 AM:
DanielSan wrote:
adman wrote:
And every theory has remained the same since this method was
developed?
No.
so science changed
No. the theories, changed, science (a.k.a. scientific methodology)
didn't.
You're having real trouble with the concept of changing one's views
based upon new evidence, eh?
No, i have a problem with a theory claimed to be true and latter
turns out to be wrong when the new evidence shows up.
That's because you still don't have an understanding of what a theory
is.
Or an understanding of what evidence is.
Arseboy knows what evidence is. He also knows he doesn't have any.
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Tokay Pino Gris
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adman wrote:
| Quote: | Syd M. wrote:
On Aug 18, 11:02 pm, "adman" <g...@hotmail.et> wrote:
Smiler wrote:
"adman" <g...@hotmail.et> wrote in message
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Science lies everyday with unproven theories. If that was not bad
enough, they present such lies in the classroom as truth.
Still no evidence, I see.
Still no common sense i see
Still no answer, I see...
Theories change. Therfore they were not 100% true in the first place
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And are not claimed to be. They COULD be 100% true... but we will never
know. That is the beauty of it. We have observations, we make a
hypothesis, with new supporting evidence it turns into a theory, with
contradicting evidence, it goes in the trash.
There is no other way. We don't KNOW what evidence will turn up
tomorrow. Maybe it supports it, maybe it doesn't. But unless that
evidence comes in, we adopt the hypothesis/theory, because based on
current knowledge, it works out.
We don't throw it out beforehand because it MIGHT be wrong.
We need a TON of evidence of a hypothesis to turn into a theory. But we
only need ONE contradicting fact for it to go down the drain.
(Or, in rare cases - such as Newtonian Gravity - a damn good reason to stay)
We KNOW the current theory might well turn out not to be 100% accurate.
But we know it is accurate based on current knowledge. The knowledge of
tomorrow... who knows?
Science does this all the time. Religion NEVER did this. Because it
would have been thrown out 2000 years and a bit ago in the case of
christianity if it did use that method.
(Come on... there is so much bullshit in that book and the stories that
even the folks back then must have noticed it didn't work out)
Tokay
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Take time-out 1/2 way through your day to ask "what have I done today?"
Then act on your thoughts!
Chances are if it was enough for you to ponder it, success is not far
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adman wrote, On 19/08/08 06:12 AM:
| Quote: | Syd M. wrote:
On Aug 18, 11:02 pm, "adman" <g...@hotmail.et> wrote:
Smiler wrote:
"adman" <g...@hotmail.et> wrote in message
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Science lies everyday with unproven theories. If that was not bad
enough, they present such lies in the classroom as truth.
Still no evidence, I see.
Still no common sense i see
Still no answer, I see...
Theories change. Therfore they were not 100% true in the first place
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Contrary to your strawman, nobody ever claimed they were absolutely
true. Remember "based on current knowledge..."? |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:13 am Post subject: Re: Intelligent Design Fellow Gives the Game Away - ID not a |
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"adman" <grat@hotmail.et> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Smiler wrote:
"adman" <grat@hotmail.et> wrote in message
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Science lies everyday with unproven theories. If that was not bad
enough, they present such lies in the classroom as truth.
Still no evidence, I see.
Still no common sense i see
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Smiler,
The godless one
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John Baker
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:13 am Post subject: Re: Intelligent Design Fellow Gives the Game Away - ID not a |
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:22:50 -0700 (PDT), "Syd M."
<pdwright42@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Aug 19, 8:54 am, John Baker <nu...@bizniz.net> wrote:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:43:06 +0100, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com
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Mike Painter wrote:
adman wrote:
Cory Albrecht wrote:
adman wrote, On 17/08/08 09:51 AM:
DanielSan wrote:
adman wrote:
And every theory has remained the same since this method was
developed?
No.
so science changed
No. the theories, changed, science (a.k.a. scientific methodology)
didn't.
You're having real trouble with the concept of changing one's views
based upon new evidence, eh?
No, i have a problem with a theory claimed to be true and latter
turns out to be wrong when the new evidence shows up.
That's because you still don't have an understanding of what a theory
is.
Or an understanding of what evidence is.
Arseboy knows what evidence is. He also knows he doesn't have any.
I've seen no evidence of that...
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He understands what evidence is well enough to know he has none.
Otherwise, he'd be presenting what he *believes* is evidence, rather
than sticking out his tongue and running away.
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