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You think all those written down traditions, saved for thousands of
years, were witten just to lie to you?
Nope. They were written to lie to everyone who read/reads them.
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John Baker
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:52:36 -0500, "adman" <grat@hotmail.et> wrote:
| Quote: | Tim Miller wrote:
adman wrote:
Syd M. wrote:
On Aug 19, 6:12 am, "adman" <g...@hotmail.et> wrote:
Syd M. wrote:
On Aug 18, 11:02 pm, "adman" <g...@hotmail.et> wrote:
Smiler wrote:
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Science lies everyday with unproven theories. If that was not
bad enough, they present such lies in the classroom as truth.
Still no evidence, I see.
Still no common sense i see
Still no answer, I see...
Theories change. Therfore they were not 100% true in the first
place
Religions change. Therefore, they are not 100% true at all.
God is neither religion or science.
Heh heh, then what IS it?
(This ought to be a REAL corker!)
Apparently something you cannot understand. Despite ALL your education
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:54:17 -0500, "adman" <grat@hotmail.et> wrote:
| Quote: | Smiler wrote:
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Cory Albrecht wrote:
adman wrote, On 18/08/08 11:04 PM:
SkyEyes wrote:
1. You keep asserting
no, i pretty much say you are wrong'
And that would be asserting.
So are you ever going to back up your assertions with evidence? I'm
still waiting for corroboration of Moses.
your asking for something you already know cannot be provided. which
makes you dishonest.
And claiming something is true, when you've no evidence for it, makes
you a dishonest liar for god.
Do you actually believe that Moses is just a huge lie?
There is no evidence to indicate that it is the truth.
Which would make everything associated with Moses a lie.
Got it in one!
Stupid is as stupid types. Apparently you are not too bright
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It's really too bad you lack the intellectual firepower to grasp the
irony in that statement.
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Steve O
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: Intelligent Design Fellow Gives the Game Away - ID not a |
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| Quote: | Steve O wrote:
We understand the whole idea of God very well.
if you did, you would not feel the way you do
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No, it is exactly WHY we feel the way we do.
I'm sure you probably feel the same and there will always be that difference
of opinion.
The only difference is that we do not insist that you should adopt our
opinion or threaten you with eternal hellfire and damnation if you don't
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Tim Miller
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:50 pm Post subject: Re: Intelligent Design Fellow Gives the Game Away - ID not a |
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adman wrote:
| Quote: | Smiler wrote:
"adman" <grat@hotmail.et> wrote in message
You think all those written down traditions, saved for thousands of
years, were witten just to lie to you?
Nope. They were written to lie to everyone who read/reads them.
wrong answer.
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Says you. But, as usual, you don't have ANY actual evidence
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Tim Miller
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Steve O wrote:
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"adman" <grat@hotmail.et> wrote in message
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Steve O wrote:
We understand the whole idea of God very well.
if you did, you would not feel the way you do
No, it is exactly WHY we feel the way we do.
I'm sure you probably feel the same and there will always be that
difference of opinion.
The only difference is that we do not insist that you should adopt our
opinion or threaten you with eternal hellfire and damnation if you don't
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I always wondered WHY these pinheads thought that threatening
us with "punishment" in some non-existent "afterlife" would
be at all persuasive or effective. They're the same sort of
dolts that try to get their children to behave by telling them
the "bogeyman will get them", I guess. |
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H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:52 pm Post subject: Re: # SEXUAL LIFE IN THE PARADISE ? # |
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"Randy ®" <pulpitfire@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:30:05 -0500,
in article <g87kdf$p9t$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
"H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <xeickleberrybooks@msn.com> wrote:
the PROFANITY of HUMAN SEXUALITY will NOT
EXIST IN HEAVEN.
The Bible teaches there will be no sexuality in heaven, but it
does not teach that sex within Biblical marriage is profanity.
One wonders why you would claim such a thing, since you also
have a wife and a child.
--
Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him from the dead.
Rely on this work alone to escape hell and receive eternal
life (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess. 1:8-9).
We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself
up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every
thought to make it obedient to Christ. ?2 Corinthians 10:5
Human sexuality is not profane.
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Yes, it is...
Ge 3:16 ¶ Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy
conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall
be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
Natural childbirth was a CURSE on Eve. It was NOT how things were SUPPOSED
to be for her.
Moreover, the PROFANITY of the NATURAL CHILDBIRTH is REINFORCED in THE
LAW...
Lev 12:1-8
And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the children of
Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then
she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of the separation for
her infirmity shall she be unclean: And in the eighth day the flesh of his
foreskin shall be circumcised.
And she shall then continue in the blood OF HER PURIFYING three and
thirty days; she shall touch no hallowed thing, nor come into the sanctuary,
until the days of her PURIFYING be fulfilled.
But if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in
her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her PURIFYING
threescore and six days.
And when the days of her PURIFYING are fulfilled, for a son, or for a
daughter, she shall bring a lamb of the first year for a burnt offering, and
a young pigeon, or a turtledove, for a SIN OFFERING, unto the door of the
tabernacle of the congregation, unto the priest: Who shall offer it before
the LORD, and make an atonement for her; and she shall be cleansed from the
issue of her blood. This is the law for her that hath born a male or a
female.
And if she be not able to bring a lamb, then she shall bring two
turtles, or two young pigeons; the one for the burnt offering, and the other
for a SIN OFFERING: and the priest shall make AN ATONEMENT for her, and she
shall be clean.
When Eve, then Adam, sinned, THEY BECAME PART OF THE NATURAL WORLD, AND ALL
OF THE NATURAL WORLD IS PROFANE BEFORE GOD, INCLUDING ITS SEXUALITY.
| Quote: | Also, the Bible teaches no such thing that
there won't be sexuality in heaven.
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Oh, there will be a "sexuality" in heaven, but NOT of the PROFANE SORT as
exists in the creation, as it will be a sexuality OF THE SPIRIT, NOT OF
FLESH OR MIND, i.e. Israel as it WAS, IS, AND IS TO COME UNIFIED AS ONE.
| Quote: | There is a verse about the resurrected
not being given in marriage, but there is nothing about those who survive
whatever "end of the world" they believe in not having sex.
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LOL
When the world ends, who would be left to have sex?
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H.E. Eickleberry, Jr.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:01 pm Post subject: Re: # SEXUAL LIFE IN THE PARADISE ? # |
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"SwordoZ" <markii@enter.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:30:05 -0500,
in article <g87kdf$p9t$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
"H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <xeickleberrybooks@msn.com> wrote:
the PROFANITY of HUMAN SEXUALITY will NOT
EXIST IN HEAVEN.
The Bible teaches there will be no sexuality in heaven, but it
does not teach that sex within Biblical marriage is profanity.
Yes, it does.
SoZ
You are dead wrong Ike.
Ge 3:16 ¶ Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and
thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire
shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
Natural childbirth was a CURSE on Eve. It was NOT how things were
SUPPOSED to be for her.
SoZ
A self-inflicted curse.
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Bullshit: It's a GOD-INFLICTED CURSE, oh, clueless one.
| Quote: | Moreover, the PROFANITY of the NATURAL CHILDBIRTH is REINFORCED in THE
LAW...
Lev 12:1-8
And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the children of
Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child:
then she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of the
separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean: And in the eighth day
the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised.
And she shall then continue in the blood OF HER PURIFYING three and
thirty days; she shall touch no hallowed thing, nor come into the
sanctuary, until the days of her PURIFYING be fulfilled.
But if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as
in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her PURIFYING
threescore and six days.
And when the days of her PURIFYING are fulfilled, for a son, or for a
daughter, she shall bring a lamb of the first year for a burnt offering,
and a young pigeon, or a turtledove, for a SIN OFFERING, unto the door of
the tabernacle of the congregation, unto the priest: Who shall offer it
before the LORD, and make an atonement for her; and she shall be cleansed
from the issue of her blood. This is the law for her that hath born a
male or a female.
And if she be not able to bring a lamb, then she shall bring two
turtles, or two young pigeons; the one for the burnt offering, and the
other for a SIN OFFERING: and the priest shall make AN ATONEMENT for her,
and she shall be clean.
SoZ
Natural childbirth is not profane. Lev 12:1-8 was nothing more than
instructions concerning womanly health and sanitation issues after
childbirth within the nation of Israel.
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More bullshit: It says right in the law that IT WAS AN ATONEMENT, and A
OFFEREING FOR SIN.
WHAT WAS "ATONED FOR?"
WHAT WAS THE "SIN?"
THE ONE THAT BEGAN IT ALL! EVE'S SIN IN THE GARDEN (immediately followed by
Adam's sin in the garden, and preceded by Satan's sin in the garden).
| Quote: | When Eve, then Adam, sinned, THEY BECAME PART OF THE NATURAL WORLD,
SoZ
"THEY BECAME PART OF THE NATURAL WORLD" .... when they were the
foundational piece of the natural world since creation?????????
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THAT'S THE PROBLEM--THEY WEREN'T. THE OTHER "SEED" WAS ALREADY HERE.
Ge 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy
seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
WHAT OTHER SEED?
THE NATURAL "SEED," a.k.a. THE GENTILES, a.k.a. THE SONS OF MEN (as opposed
to "the sons of God").
| Quote: | AND ALL
OF THE NATURAL WORLD IS PROFANE BEFORE GOD, INCLUDING ITS SEXUALITY.
SoZ
Your talking like someone with a paper "you know what" This natural world
is the "epitomy" of the creative intelligence and understanding of a
CREATOR ... why do you call it profane?
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No, it's not--it's the CORRUPTED FORM of God's creative intelligence and
understanding.
| Quote: | Human nature, the originator of profanity, continues to stand unbridled
and unrestrained before the CREATOR in this natural world, ever since Adam
and Eve's banishment from that idyllic natural world in which they were
orginally created .. and you are doing a "good" job of continuing their
legacy of banishment.
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LOL
Now, if you only knew what "world" the story is actually about...
Eze 31:2-9
Son of man, speak unto Pharaoh king of Egypt, and to his multitude; Whom
art thou like in thy greatness?
Behold, the Assyrian was a cedar in Lebanon with fair branches, and with
a shadowing shroud, and of an high stature; and his top was among the thick
boughs. The waters made him great, the deep set him up on high with her
rivers running round about his plants, and sent out her little rivers unto
all the trees of the field. Therefore his height was exalted above all the
trees of the field, and his boughs were multiplied, and his branches became
long because of the multitude of waters, when he shot forth. All the fowls
of heaven made their nests in his boughs, and under his branches did all the
beasts of the field bring forth their young, and under his shadow dwelt all
great nations.
Thus was he fair in his greatness, in the length of his branches: for
his root was by great waters. The cedars in the garden of God could not hide
him: the fir trees were not like his boughs, and the chesnut trees were not
like his branches; nor any tree in the garden of God was like unto him in
his beauty.
I have made him fair by the multitude of his branches: so that all the
trees of Eden, that were in the garden of God, envied him.
The "Garden of Eden" saga is NOT what the LITERALISTS THINK IT IS, but
rather, IT IS A METAPHOR FOR THE NATIONS OF MAN WHO WERE ALREADY HERE, and
who CAME ABOUT BY THE NATURAL PROCESS, i.e. EVOLUTION.
It is AGAINST THIS BACKGROUND that the story of the "SONS OF GOD" (versus
the "sons of men") that the REAL STORY BEGINS.
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This is another perfect example that we must live in the times of the
end of the world coming soon-Daniel 12.4,9.
For many ages past almost nobody knew that all saved christians will
enjoy sexual intimacy in marriage in the Paradise.
Now comes ANOTHER pervert, applying the profane to the sacred.
Nevermind what Jesus said, right?
SoZ
No, but one should be ever mindful of the malady of mis-interpreted
reasoning which is a common affliction of the many who attempt to
interpret the recorded spoken words of JC.
There's no "interpretation" to it--the PROFANITY of HUMAN SEXUALITY will
NOT EXIST IN HEAVEN.
SoZ> The profanity is in your response.
Gen 2:18 "And the LORD God said, It is <NOT GOOD> that the man should be
alone; I will make him an help meet?f? for him."
Gen 2:21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he
slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead
thereof; 22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made?i? he
a woman, and brought her unto the man. 23 And Adam said, This is now bone
of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman?j?, because
she was taken out of Man. 24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and
his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
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This was all BEFORE THE FALL, oh, clueless one.
| Quote: | It's quite apparent that you unknowingly are mis-interpreting, while
contradicting as well, the CREATOR's viewpoint that what he had created
from/through the man, a woman, was "good" to him .... including human
sexuality.
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DID EVE COME FROM "HUMAN SEXUALITY?"
NO!
SHE WAS FORMED FROM ADAM APART FROM NATURAL SEXUALITY.
The PROFANITY of NATURAL SEXUALITY didn't become part of the story UNTIL EVE
PROSTITUTED HER OWN SEXUALITY.
[snip]
| Quote: | Does the basis of your prophetic insight, as touching the resurrection,
believe that the "resurrected" will revert back to an idyllic angelic
state of being?
One cannot REVERT to something THEY'VE NEVER BEEN, dumkopf.
SoZ
NEVER BEEN!
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THAT'S RIGHT--NEVER BEEN.
| Quote: | It's quite obvious your response is very telling of your understanding
concerning the synonymous relationship of "angels" and "humans"
throughout scripture. Wow! I believe your in need of a "time out" to
rethink your position.
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Not at all.
I get the story.
You don't.
The story progresses from the ground up, and from the middle outward, NOT in
a LINEAR FASHION.
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On Aug 19, 5:44 pm, "adman" <g...@hotmail.et> wrote:
| Quote: | Syd M. wrote:
On Aug 19, 6:12 am, "adman" <g...@hotmail.et> wrote:
Syd M. wrote:
On Aug 18, 11:02 pm, "adman" <g...@hotmail.et> wrote:
Smiler wrote:
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Science lies everyday with unproven theories. If that was not bad
enough, they present such lies in the classroom as truth.
Still no evidence, I see.
Still no common sense i see
Still no answer, I see...
Theories change. Therfore they were not 100% true in the first place
Religions change. Therefore, they are not 100% true at all.
God is neither religion or science.
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That is the first truthful thing you've said around here, assman.
Though not for the reasons you think.
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On Aug 19, 6:38 pm, John Baker <nu...@bizniz.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:22:50 -0700 (PDT), "Syd M."
pdwrigh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Aug 19, 8:54 am, John Baker <nu...@bizniz.net> wrote:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:43:06 +0100, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com
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Mike Painter wrote:
adman wrote:
Cory Albrecht wrote:
adman wrote, On 17/08/08 09:51 AM:
DanielSan wrote:
adman wrote:
And every theory has remained the same since this method was
developed?
No.
so science changed
No. the theories, changed, science (a.k.a. scientific methodology)
didn't.
You're having real trouble with the concept of changing one's views
based upon new evidence, eh?
No, i have a problem with a theory claimed to be true and latter
turns out to be wrong when the new evidence shows up.
That's because you still don't have an understanding of what a theory
is.
Or an understanding of what evidence is.
Arseboy knows what evidence is. He also knows he doesn't have any.
I've seen no evidence of that...
He understands what evidence is well enough to know he has none.
Otherwise, he'd be presenting what he *believes* is evidence, rather
than sticking out his tongue and running away.
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On Aug 19, 11:01 pm, "adman" <g...@hotmail.et> wrote:
| Quote: | Smiler wrote:
"adman" <g...@hotmail.et> wrote in message
You think all those written down traditions, saved for thousands of
years, were witten just to lie to you?
Nope. They were written to lie to everyone who read/reads them.
wrong answer. you do not get to try again
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No.
You do not get to decide that.
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curtjester1
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:45 am Post subject: Re: # SEXUAL LIFE IN THE PARADISE ? # |
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On Aug 20, 5:52 am, "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr."
<xeickleberrybo...@msn.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "boat987" <awn...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Randy ®" <pulpitf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:30:05 -0500,
in article <g87kdf$p9...@registered.motzarella.org>,
"H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <xeickleberrybo...@msn.com> wrote:
the PROFANITY of HUMAN SEXUALITY will NOT
EXIST IN HEAVEN.
The Bible teaches there will be no sexuality in heaven, but it
does not teach that sex within Biblical marriage is profanity.
One wonders why you would claim such a thing, since you also
have a wife and a child.
--
Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him from the dead.
Rely on this work alone to escape hell and receive eternal
life (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess. 1:8-9).
We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself
up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every
thought to make it obedient to Christ. ?2 Corinthians 10:5
Human sexuality is not profane.
Yes, it is...
Ge 3:16 ¶ Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy
conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall
be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
Natural childbirth was a CURSE on Eve. It was NOT how things were SUPPOSED
to be for her.
Moreover, the PROFANITY of the NATURAL CHILDBIRTH is REINFORCED in THE
LAW...
Lev 12:1-8
And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the children of
Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then
she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of the separation for
her infirmity shall she be unclean: And in the eighth day the flesh of his
foreskin shall be circumcised.
And she shall then continue in the blood OF HER PURIFYING three and
thirty days; she shall touch no hallowed thing, nor come into the sanctuary,
until the days of her PURIFYING be fulfilled.
But if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in
her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her PURIFYING
threescore and six days.
And when the days of her PURIFYING are fulfilled, for a son, or for a
daughter, she shall bring a lamb of the first year for a burnt offering, and
a young pigeon, or a turtledove, for a SIN OFFERING, unto the door of the
tabernacle of the congregation, unto the priest: Who shall offer it before
the LORD, and make an atonement for her; and she shall be cleansed from the
issue of her blood. This is the law for her that hath born a male or a
female.
And if she be not able to bring a lamb, then she shall bring two
turtles, or two young pigeons; the one for the burnt offering, and the other
for a SIN OFFERING: and the priest shall make AN ATONEMENT for her, and she
shall be clean.
When Eve, then Adam, sinned, THEY BECAME PART OF THE NATURAL WORLD, AND ALL
OF THE NATURAL WORLD IS PROFANE BEFORE GOD, INCLUDING ITS SEXUALITY.
Also, the Bible teaches no such thing that
there won't be sexuality in heaven.
Oh, there will be a "sexuality" in heaven, but NOT of the PROFANE SORT as
exists in the creation, as it will be a sexuality OF THE SPIRIT, NOT OF
FLESH OR MIND, i.e. Israel as it WAS, IS, AND IS TO COME UNIFIED AS ONE.
There is a verse about the resurrected
not being given in marriage, but there is nothing about those who survive
whatever "end of the world" they believe in not having sex.
LOL
When the world ends, who would be left to have sex?
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Plenty, according to the Bible. In Dan. 12: 1,2..."And during that
time Michael will stand up, the great prince who is standing in behalf
of your people. And there will certainly occur a time of distress
such has not been made occur since there became a nation until that
time. And during that time your people will escape, every one who's
been found written down in the book.
And there will be many of those sleep in the ground of dust, who
will wake up, these to indefinitely lasting life and those to
reproaches and to indefinitely lasting abhorrence.
So, you have those escaping Armageddon, and those of the past deemed
to have favor to be ressurrected by God. The earth is still in tact,
so becomes 'the new earth'.
And Christ was able to ressurect in symbol, Lazarus, dead as a
doornail, to physical life.
The people who preceded the time of Christ would not be saved or
destined for heavenly life. Actually they never were given that
promise, and only knew their future life would be a physical one on
earth. Hence, many of them were counted as faithful in Hebrews 11,
but they are not deemed saved. The only way they are saved is to
live in and through the 1,000 year reign of Christ on earth, pass the
test that the original pair failed, and live forever on earth. Then,
they will not be as the angels in heaven, but naked as their original
parents. I just can't imagine a bunch of naked people not having
sex, and I don't know how a spirit can.
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curtjester1
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:52 am Post subject: Re: Another Example of Creationist Lies |
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On Aug 10, 10:08 am, "adman" <g...@hotmail.et> wrote:
| Quote: | "Budikka666" <budik...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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On Aug 8, 10:25 pm, "adman" <g...@hotmail.et> wrote:
"Budikka666" <budik...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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On Aug 6, 7:29 pm, "adman" <g...@hotmail.et> wrote:
"Budikka666" <budik...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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Adman, Gabriel and Martinez aren't the only creationist LIARS
around.
Far from it. As PZ Myers points out
atwww.scienceblogs.com/pharyngula,
creationist lying is commonplace:
http://tinyurl.com/5a2gv6
Budikka
of course we NEVER get lies from the science side. RIGHT? <smirk
Just like Peacenik said. The difference between science and creation
is that creation starts with a lie. Science starts with a desire to
find out what's going on.
We're still waiting for you to own up to the rest of your lies.
Budikka
What would those lies be, Budikka?
Well let's start with your lie that there's no speciation, shall we?
Budikka
ok, edcuate me. Exactly where did speciation originate? Can you give an
example of speciation on another planet? Is speciation unique to earth? What
came first, the first life form, or speciation to make that first life?
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This alone would make all their 'facts' a lie, wouldn't it?
CJ |
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