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| Quote: | On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:03:13 -0500,
in article <gdg09k$pgi$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
"H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <xeickleberrybooks@msn.com> wrote:
"Randy ®" <pulpitfire@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 02:36:31 -0500,
in article <gdc3m2$3qm$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
"H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <xeickleberrybooks@msn.com> wrote:
Cattle = humanists.
Creeping things = idolaters.
Beasts of the Field = legalists.
Fowls of the Air = spiritualists.
These represent the nations of the Gentiles, by their forms of religion.
The real New Testament likens licentiousness, not legalism, to
beastliness:
2 Peter
Notice how the moron goes off track instead of dealing with the issues.
CATTLE, CREEPING THINGS, BEASTS OF THE FIELD (or "earth"), and FOWLS OF
THE
AIR REPRESENT THE GENTILES [Acts 10]...
SAME AS IN THE SECOND GENESIS ACCOUNT AND THE ACCOUNT OF THE FALL.
Didn't say they weren't Gentiles, just that beastliness is
likened to licentiousness.
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Once again, Randy makes another asinine statement to bypass the OBVIOUS.
What symbols did God used to tell Peter to preach the Gospel to the
Gentiles?
CATTLE, CREEPING THINGS, BEASTS OF THE FIELD, AND FOWLS OF THE AIR.
What symbols appear in the second genesis account and the account of the
fall for the "living things" that God created AFTER ADAM?
CATTLE, CREEPING THINGS, BEASTS OF THE FIELD, AND FOWLS OF THE AIR.
What symbols do the prophets use to represent the Gentiles THROUGHOUT
PROPHECY?
CATTLE, CREEPING THINGS, BEASTS OF THE FIELD, AND FOWLS OF THE AIR.
Eze 34:22 Therefore will I save my flock, and they shall no more be a prey;
and I will judge between cattle and cattle.
What? God is going to hold a 4-H contest?
Ho 2:18 And in that day will I make a covenant for them with the beasts of
the field, and with the fowls of heaven, and with the creeping things of the
ground: and I will break the bow and the sword and the battle out of the
earth, and will make them to lie down safely.
What? God makes covenants with "beasts of the field, fowls of the air, and
creeping things of the ground?"
And since when do "beasts, fowls, and creeping things" TAKE UP THE BOW AND
THE SWORD AND DO BATTLE?
One of these days, you idiots are going to HAVE to learn to STOP READING
PROPHETIC METAPHORS LITERALLY.
[snip the rest of the asinine statements]
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Randy ®
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| Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 3:36 am Post subject: Re: # SEXUAL LIFE IN THE PARADISE ? # |
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On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:51:03 -0500,
in article <gdt8vd$rbt$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
"Ike" <xeickleberrybooks@msn.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "Randy ®" <pulpitfire@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:cp3nf4hjbpc47cklheptj2v9ep732ihqcr@4ax.com...
On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:03:13 -0500,
in article <gdg09k$pgi$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
"H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <xeickleberrybooks@msn.com> wrote:
"Randy ®" <pulpitfire@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ephjf49e13bc16m1tkrr7573obs7td0ehk@4ax.com...
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 02:36:31 -0500,
in article <gdc3m2$3qm$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
"H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <xeickleberrybooks@msn.com> wrote:
Cattle = humanists.
Creeping things = idolaters.
Beasts of the Field = legalists.
Fowls of the Air = spiritualists.
These represent the nations of the Gentiles, by their forms of religion.
The real New Testament likens licentiousness, not legalism, to
beastliness:
2 Peter
Notice how the moron goes off track instead of dealing with the issues.
CATTLE, CREEPING THINGS, BEASTS OF THE FIELD (or "earth"), and FOWLS OF
THE
AIR REPRESENT THE GENTILES [Acts 10]...
SAME AS IN THE SECOND GENESIS ACCOUNT AND THE ACCOUNT OF THE FALL.
Didn't say they weren't Gentiles, just that beastliness is
likened to licentiousness.
Once again, Randy makes another asinine statement to bypass the OBVIOUS.
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No, that's the distraction _you're_ feigning to bypass the
obvious:
1) No Dispensationalist, or I, have ever disputed the animals
in Peter's vision were typical of the Gentiles, a fact which
the text in Acts later directly states.
2) It is _your_ asinine statement that the "beasts of the
field" are "legalists", which you cannot defend, and which
seeks to bypass the plain statement of 2 Peter 2:9-22 (i.e.
that it is the licentious who are likened to beasts, not
legalists):
2 Peter 2
9 if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men
from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of
judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10 This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt
desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and
arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial
beings;
11 yet even angels, although they are stronger and more
powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such
beings in the presence of the Lord.
12 But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand.
They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only
to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will
perish.
13 They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have
done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight.
They are blots and blemishes, revelling in their pleasures
while they feast with you.
14 With eyes full of adultery, they never stop sinning; they
seduce the unstable; they are experts in greed—an accursed
brood!
15 They have left the straight way and wandered off to follow
the way of Balaam son of Beor, who loved the wages of
wickedness.
16 But he was rebuked for his wrongdoing by a donkey—a beast
without speech—who spoke with a man’s voice and restrained the
prophet’s madness.
17 These men are springs without water and mists driven by a
storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for them.
18 For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to
the lustful desires of sinful human nature, they entice people
who are just escaping from those who live in error.
19 They promise them freedom, while they themselves are
slaves of depravity—for a man is a slave to whatever has
mastered him.
20 If they have escaped the corruption of the world by
knowing our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and are again
entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end
than they were at the beginning.
21 It would have been better for them not to have known the
way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn
their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them.
22 Of them the proverbs are true: "A dog returns to its
vomit," and, "A sow that is washed goes back to her wallowing
in the mud."
| Quote: | What symbols did God used to tell Peter to preach the Gospel to the
Gentiles?
CATTLE, CREEPING THINGS, BEASTS OF THE FIELD, AND FOWLS OF THE AIR.
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That was never disputed, you lying ass. Nothing there says
"legalists" are the "beasts of the field".
| Quote: | What symbols appear in the second genesis account and the account of the
fall for the "living things" that God created AFTER ADAM?
CATTLE, CREEPING THINGS, BEASTS OF THE FIELD, AND FOWLS OF THE AIR.
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ibid.
| Quote: | What symbols do the prophets use to represent the Gentiles THROUGHOUT
PROPHECY?
CATTLE, CREEPING THINGS, BEASTS OF THE FIELD, AND FOWLS OF THE AIR.
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ibid.
| Quote: | Eze 34:22 Therefore will I save my flock, and they shall no more be a prey;
and I will judge between cattle and cattle.
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ibid.
| Quote: | What? God is going to hold a 4-H contest?
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ibid.
| Quote: | Ho 2:18 And in that day will I make a covenant for them with the beasts of
the field, and with the fowls of heaven, and with the creeping things of the
ground: and I will break the bow and the sword and the battle out of the
earth, and will make them to lie down safely.
What? God makes covenants with "beasts of the field, fowls of the air, and
creeping things of the ground?"
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ibid.
| Quote: | And since when do "beasts, fowls, and creeping things" TAKE UP THE BOW AND
THE SWORD AND DO BATTLE?
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ibid. That was never disputed, you lying ass. Nothing there
says "legalists" are the "beasts of the field".
| Quote: | One of these days, you idiots are going to HAVE to learn to STOP READING
PROPHETIC METAPHORS LITERALLY.
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ibid.
| Quote: | [snip the rest of the asinine statements]
Ike
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ibid. Your entire post was nothing but a feigned, distracting
lie.
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Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him from the dead.
Rely on this work alone to escape hell and receive eternal
life (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess. 1:8-9).
We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself
up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every
thought to make it obedient to Christ. †2 Corinthians 10:5 |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 7:51 am Post subject: Re: # SEXUAL LIFE IN THE PARADISE ? # |
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"Randy ®" <pulpitfire@gmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:51:03 -0500,
in article <gdt8vd$rbt$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
"Ike" <xeickleberrybooks@msn.com> wrote:
"Randy ®" <pulpitfire@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:cp3nf4hjbpc47cklheptj2v9ep732ihqcr@4ax.com...
On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:03:13 -0500,
in article <gdg09k$pgi$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
"H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <xeickleberrybooks@msn.com> wrote:
"Randy ®" <pulpitfire@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ephjf49e13bc16m1tkrr7573obs7td0ehk@4ax.com...
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 02:36:31 -0500,
in article <gdc3m2$3qm$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
"H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <xeickleberrybooks@msn.com> wrote:
Cattle = humanists.
Creeping things = idolaters.
Beasts of the Field = legalists.
Fowls of the Air = spiritualists.
These represent the nations of the Gentiles, by their forms of
religion.
The real New Testament likens licentiousness, not legalism, to
beastliness:
2 Peter
Notice how the moron goes off track instead of dealing with the issues.
CATTLE, CREEPING THINGS, BEASTS OF THE FIELD (or "earth"), and FOWLS OF
THE
AIR REPRESENT THE GENTILES [Acts 10]...
SAME AS IN THE SECOND GENESIS ACCOUNT AND THE ACCOUNT OF THE FALL.
Didn't say they weren't Gentiles, just that beastliness is
likened to licentiousness.
Once again, Randy makes another asinine statement to bypass the OBVIOUS.
No, that's the distraction _you're_ feigning to bypass the
obvious:
1) No Dispensationalist, or I, have ever disputed the animals
in Peter's vision were typical of the Gentiles, a fact which
the text in Acts later directly states.
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NOT "typical," moron.
SYMBOLIC.
THEY'RE THE SAME SYMBOLS OF THE GENTILES USED THROUGHOUT THE PROPHETS.
| Quote: | 2) It is _your_ asinine statement that the "beasts of the
field" are "legalists", which you cannot defend, and which
seeks to bypass the plain statement of 2 Peter 2:9-22 (i.e.
that it is the licentious who are likened to beasts, not
legalists):
2 Peter 2
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TWO PETER DOESN'T BELONG IN THE BIBLE, moron.
And "beasts of the field" ARE used for "legalists" throughout prophecy.
The "field" (or, "earth") represents ISRAEL, but the BEASTS of the "field"
are ALL THOSE WHO ATTEMPT TO ATTACH THEMSELVES TO ISRAEL, like the MUSLIMS
LATCHING ONTO THE PROMISES OF ABRAHAM by LIES and CONTEMPT against GOD'S
INHERITANCE.
[snip the irrelevant quote]
| Quote: | What symbols did God used to tell Peter to preach the Gospel to the
Gentiles?
CATTLE, CREEPING THINGS, BEASTS OF THE FIELD, AND FOWLS OF THE AIR.
That was never disputed, you lying ass. Nothing there says
"legalists" are the "beasts of the field".
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YOU'RE the ass.
CATTLE = HUMANISTS.
CREEPING THINGS = UNIVERSALISTIC IDOLATERS.
BEASTS OF THE FIELD = LEGALISTS TRYING TO ATTACH THEMSELVES TO ISRAEL (like
the "Jews who are not Jews" to whom John refers).
FOWLS OF THE AIR = FALSE SPIRITUALISTS (like astrologers, necromancers,
etc., etc.)
THESE ARE ALL DESIGNATIONS FOR THE OPPONENTS OF ISRAEL.
| Quote: | What symbols appear in the second genesis account and the account of the
fall for the "living things" that God created AFTER ADAM?
CATTLE, CREEPING THINGS, BEASTS OF THE FIELD, AND FOWLS OF THE AIR.
ibid.
|
No shit, "ibid." As in "IBID THE SECOND GENESIS ACCOUNT."
| Quote: | What symbols do the prophets use to represent the Gentiles THROUGHOUT
PROPHECY?
CATTLE, CREEPING THINGS, BEASTS OF THE FIELD, AND FOWLS OF THE AIR.
ibid.
|
See. Once again, when the fool can't FORMULATE AN ARGUMENT, he REVERTS TO
HIS FOOLISHNESS, USING A TERM HE DOESN'T EVEN COMPREHEND.
| Quote: | Eze 34:22 Therefore will I save my flock, and they shall no more be a
prey;
and I will judge between cattle and cattle.
|
[snip the stupidity]
| Quote: | What? God is going to hold a 4-H contest?
ibid.
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NOTICE THAT THE JERK DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION.
WHEN GOD SAYS HE'LL "JUDGE BETWEEN CATTLE AND CATTLE," WHAT THE HELL ARE
"CATTLE," MORON?
| Quote: | Ho 2:18 And in that day will I make a covenant for them with the beasts of
the field, and with the fowls of heaven, and with the creeping things of
the
ground: and I will break the bow and the sword and the battle out of the
earth, and will make them to lie down safely.
What? God makes covenants with "beasts of the field, fowls of the air, and
creeping things of the ground?"
ibid.
|
[translation: "I'm stupid, can't formulate a response, so I'll just keep
quoting a term I read somewhere but don't comprehend."]
| Quote: | And since when do "beasts, fowls, and creeping things" TAKE UP THE BOW AND
THE SWORD AND DO BATTLE?
ibid. That was never disputed, you lying ass. Nothing there
says "legalists" are the "beasts of the field".
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NOTHING EXCEPT ITS USAGE IN REFERENCE TO THE NEIGHBORS OF ISRAEL THROUGHOUT
PROPHECY, you ass.
Job 5:22-27
At destruction and famine thou shalt laugh: neither shalt thou be afraid
of the beasts of the earth: For thou shalt be in league with the stones of
the field: and the beasts of the field shall be at peace with thee. And thou
shalt know that thy tabernacle shall be in peace; and thou shalt visit thy
habitation, and shalt not sin.
Who are the "beasts of the field" (or "earth")?
ALL THOSE NEIGHBORS WHO KEEP TRYING TO IMPINGE ON GOD'S INHERITANCE.
| Quote: | One of these days, you idiots are going to HAVE to learn to STOP READING
PROPHETIC METAPHORS LITERALLY.
ibid.
[snip the rest of the asinine statements]
Ike
ibid. Your entire post was nothing but a feigned, distracting
lie.
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LOL
AND YET YOU ARE THE ONE WHO CAN'T FORMULATE A RESPONSE TO THE PLAIN FACTS.
What an asshole.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: # SEXUAL LIFE IN THE PARADISE ? # |
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 03:01:00 -0500,
in article <gdujnv$qf4$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
"Ike" <xeickleberrybooks@msn.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "Randy ®" <pulpitfire@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:42h4g41jvqcgr8rde27uq94ctt2tc6r4ut@4ax.com...
On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:51:03 -0500,
in article <gdt8vd$rbt$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
"Ike" <xeickleberrybooks@msn.com> wrote:
"Randy ®" <pulpitfire@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:cp3nf4hjbpc47cklheptj2v9ep732ihqcr@4ax.com...
On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:03:13 -0500,
in article <gdg09k$pgi$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
"H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <xeickleberrybooks@msn.com> wrote:
"Randy ®" <pulpitfire@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ephjf49e13bc16m1tkrr7573obs7td0ehk@4ax.com...
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 02:36:31 -0500,
in article <gdc3m2$3qm$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
"H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <xeickleberrybooks@msn.com> wrote:
Cattle = humanists.
Creeping things = idolaters.
Beasts of the Field = legalists.
Fowls of the Air = spiritualists.
These represent the nations of the Gentiles, by their forms of
religion.
The real New Testament likens licentiousness, not legalism, to
beastliness:
2 Peter
Notice how the moron goes off track instead of dealing with the issues.
CATTLE, CREEPING THINGS, BEASTS OF THE FIELD (or "earth"), and FOWLS OF
THE
AIR REPRESENT THE GENTILES [Acts 10]...
SAME AS IN THE SECOND GENESIS ACCOUNT AND THE ACCOUNT OF THE FALL.
Didn't say they weren't Gentiles, just that beastliness is
likened to licentiousness.
Once again, Randy makes another asinine statement to bypass the OBVIOUS.
No, that's the distraction _you're_ feigning to bypass the
obvious:
1) No Dispensationalist, or I, have ever disputed the animals
in Peter's vision were typical of the Gentiles, a fact which
the text in Acts later directly states.
NOT "typical," moron.
SYMBOLIC.
THEY'RE THE SAME SYMBOLS OF THE GENTILES USED THROUGHOUT THE PROPHETS.
2) It is _your_ asinine statement that the "beasts of the
field" are "legalists", which you cannot defend, and which
seeks to bypass the plain statement of 2 Peter 2:9-22 (i.e.
that it is the licentious who are likened to beasts, not
legalists):
2 Peter 2
TWO PETER DOESN'T BELONG IN THE BIBLE, moron.
And "beasts of the field" ARE used for "legalists" throughout prophecy.
The "field" (or, "earth") represents ISRAEL, but the BEASTS of the "field"
are ALL THOSE WHO ATTEMPT TO ATTACH THEMSELVES TO ISRAEL, like the MUSLIMS
LATCHING ONTO THE PROMISES OF ABRAHAM by LIES and CONTEMPT against GOD'S
INHERITANCE.
[snip the irrelevant quote]
What symbols did God used to tell Peter to preach the Gospel to the
Gentiles?
CATTLE, CREEPING THINGS, BEASTS OF THE FIELD, AND FOWLS OF THE AIR.
That was never disputed, you lying ass. Nothing there says
"legalists" are the "beasts of the field".
YOU'RE the ass.
CATTLE = HUMANISTS.
CREEPING THINGS = UNIVERSALISTIC IDOLATERS.
BEASTS OF THE FIELD = LEGALISTS TRYING TO ATTACH THEMSELVES TO ISRAEL (like
the "Jews who are not Jews" to whom John refers).
FOWLS OF THE AIR = FALSE SPIRITUALISTS (like astrologers, necromancers,
etc., etc.)
THESE ARE ALL DESIGNATIONS FOR THE OPPONENTS OF ISRAEL.
What symbols appear in the second genesis account and the account of the
fall for the "living things" that God created AFTER ADAM?
CATTLE, CREEPING THINGS, BEASTS OF THE FIELD, AND FOWLS OF THE AIR.
ibid.
No shit, "ibid." As in "IBID THE SECOND GENESIS ACCOUNT."
What symbols do the prophets use to represent the Gentiles THROUGHOUT
PROPHECY?
CATTLE, CREEPING THINGS, BEASTS OF THE FIELD, AND FOWLS OF THE AIR.
ibid.
See. Once again, when the fool can't FORMULATE AN ARGUMENT, he REVERTS TO
HIS FOOLISHNESS, USING A TERM HE DOESN'T EVEN COMPREHEND.
Eze 34:22 Therefore will I save my flock, and they shall no more be a
prey;
and I will judge between cattle and cattle.
[snip the stupidity]
What? God is going to hold a 4-H contest?
ibid.
NOTICE THAT THE JERK DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION.
WHEN GOD SAYS HE'LL "JUDGE BETWEEN CATTLE AND CATTLE," WHAT THE HELL ARE
"CATTLE," MORON?
Ho 2:18 And in that day will I make a covenant for them with the beasts of
the field, and with the fowls of heaven, and with the creeping things of
the
ground: and I will break the bow and the sword and the battle out of the
earth, and will make them to lie down safely.
What? God makes covenants with "beasts of the field, fowls of the air, and
creeping things of the ground?"
ibid.
[translation: "I'm stupid, can't formulate a response, so I'll just keep
quoting a term I read somewhere but don't comprehend."]
And since when do "beasts, fowls, and creeping things" TAKE UP THE BOW AND
THE SWORD AND DO BATTLE?
ibid. That was never disputed, you lying ass. Nothing there
says "legalists" are the "beasts of the field".
NOTHING EXCEPT ITS USAGE IN REFERENCE TO THE NEIGHBORS OF ISRAEL THROUGHOUT
PROPHECY, you ass.
Job 5:22-27
At destruction and famine thou shalt laugh: neither shalt thou be afraid
of the beasts of the earth: For thou shalt be in league with the stones of
the field: and the beasts of the field shall be at peace with thee. And thou
shalt know that thy tabernacle shall be in peace; and thou shalt visit thy
habitation, and shalt not sin.
Who are the "beasts of the field" (or "earth")?
ALL THOSE NEIGHBORS WHO KEEP TRYING TO IMPINGE ON GOD'S INHERITANCE.
One of these days, you idiots are going to HAVE to learn to STOP READING
PROPHETIC METAPHORS LITERALLY.
ibid.
[snip the rest of the asinine statements]
Ike
ibid. Your entire post was nothing but a feigned, distracting
lie.
LOL
AND YET YOU ARE THE ONE WHO CAN'T FORMULATE A RESPONSE TO THE PLAIN FACTS.
What an asshole.
Ike
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Your response doesn't even contain a refutation. You still
haven't done anything more than _assert_ that the beasts of
the field are legalists. You haven't produced a single verse
of Scripture that directly says that, while I have produced an
extended passage, showing the Bible calls the licentious
beasts. All you're doing is feigning indignation to cover up
the fact it is _you_ who can't respond to the plain facts.
--
Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him from the dead.
Rely on this work alone to escape hell and receive eternal
life (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess. 1:8-9).
We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself
up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every
thought to make it obedient to Christ. †2 Corinthians 10:5 |
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The second Genesis account is written in PROPHETIC SYMBOLISMS.
[SoZ]
According to ike.
NO, according to the Lord's use of SYMBOLISM...
[SoZ]
Not so.
YES, SO.
God used the symbols "CATTLE, CREEPING THINGS, BEASTS OF THE FIELD,
AND
FOWLS OF THE AIR" to represent THE GENTILES when He told Peter to
preach
the Gospel to the Gentiles, AND THAT'S PRECISELY WHAT THEY MEAN IN THE
2ND GENESIS ACCOUNT.
FIRST CAME ADAM (the SPIRITUAL man).
THEN ADAM helped "name" THE NATURAL MAN.
SoZ
Which natural men were "cattle", which were "creeping things", which
were
"beasts of the field", which were "fowls in the air", etc. etc....
enlighten us all.
Cattle = humanists.
[SoZ]
How did Adam recognize this gentile trait as being such, simply by
looking at them as they paraded by?
Who said he just "looked at them?"
Who said "they just paraded by?"
[SoZ] |
Gen 2:19,20
And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and
every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam? to see what he would
***call them***: and whatsoever Adam ***called*** every living creature,
that was the name thereof. 20 And Adam ***gave? names*** to all cattle, and
to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there
was not found an help meet for him.
The procedure when someone asks to have things "named" ... "paraded before"
and "looked at" accordingly. From what planet have you come from?
The "god of humanism" has your reasoning faculty's creating a scernario
which scripture disproves.
| Quote: | Before the fall, Daniel was immortal.
[SoZ] |
Did he stumble and "fall" like Adam?
| Quote: | And these things took millions of years.
[SoZ] |
Millions of years ... then Adam must have been the founding father and
president of the "Universal Procrastination Club" as well ... it took him
that long to come up with names. LOL.
| Quote: | [snip]
These represent the nations of the Gentiles, by their forms of religion.
[SoZ]
Who are they?
Already told you.
The humanists to the north.
The liberalists to the east.
The legalists to the south.
The "great and terrible beast" of the west.
(Meaning, the more things change, the more they stay the same.)
[SoZ] |
That pretty much describes religions per say ... I believe. That's not earth
shaking news to the majority.
| Quote: | There is symbolism there ... just not the symbolism you are
espousing.
No, it's PRECISELY the symbolism I am espousing.
You simply have NO IDEA WHAT GOES ON.
SoZ
He He .... then clarify for all which natural men were "cattle", which
were "creeping things", which were "beasts of the field", which were
"fowls in the air", etc. etc.... enlighten us all.
Already did.
[SoZ]
No you didn't.
Alreay did--the same way GOD defines them in the prophets.
Identify them per the traits as presented?
No need: GOD ALREADY DID...IN THE PROPHETS.
[SoZ] |
Can you give some examples ... as to where ***in the prophets*** this could
be found?
| Quote: | It's a construct based on a reversal of the Four Traits, i.e. fearful
oppression for courageous leadership, the lies of fraudulence verses the
innocence of integrity, the death of condemnation versus the grace of
life, and the injustice of iniquity for the faithful diligence
[SoZ]
Who owns this philosophy?
GOD, moron.
[SoZ] |
Your ... God, moron ...owns this?
| Quote: | AND IT'S NOT "PHILOSOPHY."
[SoZ] |
I could have used your pet jargon and stated it's "BS" ... but what good
would that have accomplished other than pissing off my friend watson ... so
I stated "philosophy" instead.
| Quote: | IT'S "PROPHECY."
[SoZ] |
From whom ... God, moron?
| Quote: | It's merely the continuation of the saga as recorded in gen 1.
EEHHHHHH.
WRONG ANSWER.
FIRST GENESIS ACCOUNT: THE NATURAL FOLLOWS THE NATURAL, AND ARRIVES ON
THE SEVENTH "DAY," AFTER EVERY OTHER LIVING NATURAL THING.
SECOND GENESIS ACCOUNT: BEFORE GOD CREATES ANY OTHER LIVING THING, HE
CREATES ADAM, THEN ADAM "NAMES" THE "CATTLE, CREEPING THINGS, BEASTS
OF
THE FIELD, AND FOWLS OF THE AIR," i.e. THE NATURAL MAN.
SoZ
He He ... then clarify which natural men were "cattle", which were
"creeping things", which were "beasts of the field", which were "fowls
in
the air", etc. etc.... enlighten us all.
Already did, oh, clueless one.
[SoZ]
Your philosophy is very shallow.
One more time for the slack-jawed and stupid: IT'S NOT "PHILOSOPHY." IT'S
"PROPHECY."
[SoZ] |
You have yet to prove your ***philosophy*** is ***prophecy***.
| Quote: | AND THE ANALOGIES RUN THE ENTIRE GAMUT OF THE BIBLE.
[SoZ] |
Sure they do. Just as Ezekiel used trees in the garden as analogus to
Pharoah and Egypt ... excluding philosophy.
| Quote: | [snip]
Prophecy, ary YOU no comprehend.
[SoZ]
LOL .... "evolving" prophecy doesn't cut it.
LOL
Prophecy was EVOLVING from the very beginning...
[SoZ]
According to adherents of "evolution" that may be so
Idiot: The Bible was teaching EVOLUTION and the DISTINCT CREATION OF
ADAM as TWO SEPARATE BUT RELATED EVENTS ALL ALONG.
SoZ
Are you teaching REPLACMENT THEOLOGY, saying that evolution and
creation
are biblical parallel "buds"?
It's not "replacement."
[SoZ]
Oh.
It's "grafting."
[SoZ]
Oh my.
Once again, the fool mocks instead of paying attention to the details.
[SoZ] |
Once again other than attempting to fill in scripture with perceived
philosophy ... you have yet to provide provable details.
| Quote: | See Romans 11.
IT'S NOT "REPLACEMENT." IT'S "GRAFTING."
[SoZ] |
What you are proposing is ***replacement theology*** watson. You are
attempting to "replace" the norm with "exotic" reasoning ... referring to
your reasoning (evolution) as being ***grafted*** into.
| Quote: | God starts with two "trees"
[SoZ] |
Yes ... Adam and Eve.
and, via mixing and matching, he FINISHES with
| Quote: | two "trees"--ONE FIT FOR USE, AND ONE FIT FOR DESTRUCTION.
[SoZ] |
Both trees will be finished and fit for use irregardless of your statement
.... otherwise the entity GOD would not be GOD ... it's intelligence would
revert back to darkness and confusion ... which your
stated conclusion indicates a lack of understanding thereof.
| Quote: | Two trees.
Oh my, my.
See. This is how ignorant you are. The "Two Tree" analogy STARTS IN
GENESIS,
[SoZ] |
.... beginning as Adam and Eve.
and is CONCLUDED IN REVELATION, and shows up at EVERY POINT IN
concludes symbolically as male and female.
| Quote: | God take "branches" from the "wild" olive tree (the Gentiles) and grafts
them into the spaces created in the "natural" olive tree (Israel) after
God casts down half the abominable "branches."
But God only take half of the "wild" branches to begin with, which
restores balance between the TWO TREES.
Thus, the Bible STARTS with the two-tree analogy, and ENDS with ONE TREE
fit for use, AND THE REST IS BURNED UP.
[SoZ]
And you got all this from reading paul's epistle to the Romans chapter 11
... huh?
And Genesis, and Ezekiel, and Revelation, and...
[SoZ] |
.... don't forget the "book of ike" ... the "lost" prophetic handbook of
biblical understanding.
| Quote: | ... but the intelligent "creativity" which surrounds humanity
nullify's such as being fact.
Your LACK of intelligence nullifies your nonsensical statements.
[snip]
Which is it for the record ike ... creation or evolution?
BOTH.
[Soz]
LOL Be careful of the "ouch" whilst you sit on the pointed
fence.
IT'S "BOTH," oh, clueless one.
THE NATURAL FROM THE NATURAL.
THE SUPERNATURAL FROM THE SUPERNATURAL.
ADAM VERSUS THE GENTILES.
And THAT'S the two "seeds" that were in the garden.
SoZ
Certification concerning your caps.
CERTIFICATION via EZEKIEL'S EXPLANATION of the what the "garden of Eden"
story WAS REALLY ABOUT IN THE FIRST PLACE.
[SoZ]
Until you can prove that you wrote ezekiel's explanation ... your nothing
but another wannbe watson.
Quite the contrary: YOU are the "wannabe," as evidenced by the fact that
you keep regurgitating the same "flat-earther" garbage that the
literalists have been puking up since time immemorial.
[SoZ] |
The "flat-earther" garbage, as you are want to call it, has to be
regurgitated occasionally to remind
humanism's "humanistic" perceptions of its shortcomings.
A little "news flash" ... watson. This document you are attempting to
"humanize" ***rebuffs*** intellectualizing through human perception.
| Quote: | [snip]
YOU are only proving THAT YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE BIBLE.
[SoZ]
And your proving the truthfulness of scripture concerning what paul had
warned colossians to beware of (col 2:6)
"Beware lest any man spoil you through ***philosophy*** and vain deceit,
after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not
after Christ.
One of the passages of scripture that has been the most abused BY THE
IGNORANT in all times:
THE PROPHETS WERE SCIENTISTS, among other things,
idiot,
[SoZ] |
Sorry, another false perception. The prophets were by and large ordinary
individuals born through Israelish peasantry. They understood the problems
confronting Israel peasantry from the bottom up ... not the top down.
and SCIENCE AND SCRIPTURE ARE NOT AT ODDS WITH EACH OTHER,
[SoZ]
No argument ... have you ever read any statement from me contrary to that.
except
| Quote: | in THE HANDS OF FOOLS.
[SoZ] |
Genuine fools don't know, that they don't know, that they are foolish.
| Quote: | Dan 1:3-4
And the king spake unto Ashpenaz the master of his eunuchs, that he
should bring certain of the children of Israel, and of the king's seed,
and of the princes; children in whom was no blemish, but well favoured,
and SKILLFUL IN ALL WISDOM, and CUNNING IN KNOWLEDGE, and UNDERSTANDING
SCIENCE, and such as had ability in them to stand in the king's palace,
and whom they might teach the learning and the tongue of the Chaldeans.
Someday, YOU NEED TO LEARN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SCIENCE, PROPHECY, AND
PHILOSOPHY.
[SoZ] |
What you don't realize contrary to a perception concerning Dan 1:3-4 ... is
that "Nebie" was really setting in motion a chain of command ... under his
rulership and tutelage through chaldean (Israeli) genealogy ... to govern
his newly conquered chaldean captives (Israel) ... to keep the conquered
under control and quell future uprising.
History shows the Romans took ole "Nebuie's" mentality to heart and turned
his standards into creating a humanistic model of governing ... the epitome
thereof which is self evident unto this very moment.
Attempting to perceive Dan 1-4, 2500 yrs. after the fact ... without
considering king "Nebuie's" mentality regarding the keeping of his empire
intact and free of uprising .... is merely a "humanistic" conjecture on your
part when reading words of Dan 1:1-4 ... without an understanding of king
"Nebuie's" mentality for keeping his empire intact. Which by the way
equates to no proof whatsoever concerning your conjecture that prophets were
scientists, etc. as claimed accordingly.
| Quote: | [snip the rest of the idiot's archaic "flat-earther" rambling]
Ike
[SoZ] |
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"Randy ®" <pulpitfire@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:51:03 -0500,
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On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:03:13 -0500,
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"H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <xeickleberrybooks@msn.com> wrote:
"Randy ®" <pulpitfire@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 02:36:31 -0500,
in article <gdc3m2$3qm$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
"H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <xeickleberrybooks@msn.com> wrote:
Cattle = humanists.
Creeping things = idolaters.
Beasts of the Field = legalists.
Fowls of the Air = spiritualists.
These represent the nations of the Gentiles, by their forms of
religion.
The real New Testament likens licentiousness, not legalism, to
beastliness:
2 Peter
Notice how the moron goes off track instead of dealing with the
issues.
CATTLE, CREEPING THINGS, BEASTS OF THE FIELD (or "earth"), and FOWLS
OF
THE
AIR REPRESENT THE GENTILES [Acts 10]...
SAME AS IN THE SECOND GENESIS ACCOUNT AND THE ACCOUNT OF THE FALL.
Didn't say they weren't Gentiles, just that beastliness is
likened to licentiousness.
Once again, Randy makes another asinine statement to bypass the OBVIOUS.
No, that's the distraction _you're_ feigning to bypass the
obvious:
1) No Dispensationalist, or I, have ever disputed the animals
in Peter's vision were typical of the Gentiles, a fact which
the text in Acts later directly states.
NOT "typical," moron.
SYMBOLIC.
THEY'RE THE SAME SYMBOLS OF THE GENTILES USED THROUGHOUT THE PROPHETS.
2) It is _your_ asinine statement that the "beasts of the
field" are "legalists", which you cannot defend, and which
seeks to bypass the plain statement of 2 Peter 2:9-22 (i.e.
that it is the licentious who are likened to beasts, not
legalists):
2 Peter 2
TWO PETER DOESN'T BELONG IN THE BIBLE, moron.
And "beasts of the field" ARE used for "legalists" throughout prophecy.
The "field" (or, "earth") represents ISRAEL, but the BEASTS of the "field"
are ALL THOSE WHO ATTEMPT TO ATTACH THEMSELVES TO ISRAEL, like the MUSLIMS
LATCHING ONTO THE PROMISES OF ABRAHAM by LIES and CONTEMPT against GOD'S
INHERITANCE.
[snip the irrelevant quote]
What symbols did God used to tell Peter to preach the Gospel to the
Gentiles?
CATTLE, CREEPING THINGS, BEASTS OF THE FIELD, AND FOWLS OF THE AIR.
That was never disputed, you lying ass. Nothing there says
"legalists" are the "beasts of the field".
YOU'RE the ass.
CATTLE = HUMANISTS.
CREEPING THINGS = UNIVERSALISTIC IDOLATERS.
BEASTS OF THE FIELD = LEGALISTS TRYING TO ATTACH THEMSELVES TO ISRAEL
(like
the "Jews who are not Jews" to whom John refers).
FOWLS OF THE AIR = FALSE SPIRITUALISTS (like astrologers, necromancers,
etc., etc.)
THESE ARE ALL DESIGNATIONS FOR THE OPPONENTS OF ISRAEL.
What symbols appear in the second genesis account and the account of the
fall for the "living things" that God created AFTER ADAM?
CATTLE, CREEPING THINGS, BEASTS OF THE FIELD, AND FOWLS OF THE AIR.
ibid.
No shit, "ibid." As in "IBID THE SECOND GENESIS ACCOUNT."
What symbols do the prophets use to represent the Gentiles THROUGHOUT
PROPHECY?
CATTLE, CREEPING THINGS, BEASTS OF THE FIELD, AND FOWLS OF THE AIR.
ibid.
See. Once again, when the fool can't FORMULATE AN ARGUMENT, he REVERTS TO
HIS FOOLISHNESS, USING A TERM HE DOESN'T EVEN COMPREHEND.
Eze 34:22 Therefore will I save my flock, and they shall no more be a
prey;
and I will judge between cattle and cattle.
[snip the stupidity]
What? God is going to hold a 4-H contest?
ibid.
NOTICE THAT THE JERK DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION.
WHEN GOD SAYS HE'LL "JUDGE BETWEEN CATTLE AND CATTLE," WHAT THE HELL ARE
"CATTLE," MORON?
Ho 2:18 And in that day will I make a covenant for them with the beasts
of
the field, and with the fowls of heaven, and with the creeping things of
the
ground: and I will break the bow and the sword and the battle out of the
earth, and will make them to lie down safely.
What? God makes covenants with "beasts of the field, fowls of the air,
and
creeping things of the ground?"
ibid.
[translation: "I'm stupid, can't formulate a response, so I'll just keep
quoting a term I read somewhere but don't comprehend."]
And since when do "beasts, fowls, and creeping things" TAKE UP THE BOW
AND
THE SWORD AND DO BATTLE?
ibid. That was never disputed, you lying ass. Nothing there
says "legalists" are the "beasts of the field".
NOTHING EXCEPT ITS USAGE IN REFERENCE TO THE NEIGHBORS OF ISRAEL
THROUGHOUT
PROPHECY, you ass.
Job 5:22-27
At destruction and famine thou shalt laugh: neither shalt thou be
afraid
of the beasts of the earth: For thou shalt be in league with the stones of
the field: and the beasts of the field shall be at peace with thee. And
thou
shalt know that thy tabernacle shall be in peace; and thou shalt visit thy
habitation, and shalt not sin.
Who are the "beasts of the field" (or "earth")?
ALL THOSE NEIGHBORS WHO KEEP TRYING TO IMPINGE ON GOD'S INHERITANCE.
One of these days, you idiots are going to HAVE to learn to STOP READING
PROPHETIC METAPHORS LITERALLY.
ibid.
[snip the rest of the asinine statements]
Ike
ibid. Your entire post was nothing but a feigned, distracting
lie.
LOL
AND YET YOU ARE THE ONE WHO CAN'T FORMULATE A RESPONSE TO THE PLAIN FACTS.
What an asshole.
Ike
Your response doesn't even contain a refutation.
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See.
An asshole.
HEY.
MORON.
CHECK THIS OUT.
And I saw a beast [i.e. really a "natural man," i.e. a Gentile] rise from
the earth [i.e. from among the Semites], having two horns [meaning having
authority over two things] of a Lamb [meaning the two are RELIGIOUS nations,
to whom this beast represents himself as a "savior], but spoke as a dragon
[which means it is a HATE-FILLED FRAUD, speaking LIES].
WHO IS THIS BEAST AND WHAT IS IT IT DOES.
IT IS THE CHIEF OF THE "JEWS WHO ARE NOT JEWS," THE FALSE PROPHET, WHO
ATTACHES ISRAEL AND ISLAM TOGETHER THROUGH LIES, ONLY TO TURN THE
CONFEDERACY OVER TO THE FALSE MESSIAH IN DUE COURSE OF TIME.
AND HOW DOES THIS BEAST OPERATE?
BY CLAIMING THE PROMISES OF ABRAHAM, WHEN, IN FACT, HE IS THE "WRONG" CHILD
OF ABRAHAM, i.e. ONE BY HAGAR, NOT SARAH.
| Quote: | You still
haven't done anything more than _assert_ that the beasts of
the field are legalists.
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You are simply a perfect idiot.
Congratulations.
There aren't too many perfect things in the world.
| Quote: | You haven't produced a single verse
of Scripture that directly says that, while I have produced an
extended passage, showing the Bible calls the licentious
beasts.
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FROM A BOOK THAT DOESN'T EVEN BELONG IN THE BIBLE, WHILE ALL THE PROPHETS
USE "BEASTS OF THE EARTH" (or "field") TO REPRESENT THE JEALOUS NEIGHBORS OF
ISRAEL FROM THE WRONG WIFE OF ABRAHAM.
LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE A CLUE, OH, CLUELESS ONE.
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Nothing of any significance.
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Trinity at Nimrod's death when he was the last man to
ever live and die at 500 is proven by memoiral found on Chinese bones
marked with bird and crab and triangle and sun.
If the bird and crab were constellations they could not be
in triangular conjunction with the sun. One of the must move
to mark any date. The answers is simple, Venus is the firebird
in conjunction with the sun in the crab constellation.
The date is July 10 of 1770 BC. The bones will date
earlier than the writing if they were being saved for writing on.
Saved 1300 years not likely since C-14 curves from the
water canopy collapse of the 2370 BC asteroid impact.
The Flood in 2370 BC dates as 18,000 BC (20,000 BP
at times 20,000 BC) and first human death in the city Ur
after the Flood accurately dates 2030 BC, its mass suicide in 2029 BC
which id 4030 years old. Animal bones from 100 years earlier
would easily misdate as 300-500 years earlier. Do note that
even the 1600 BC oracles are placed at 1100 BC as 500 years
difference despite C14 accuracy for those centuries. This is
due to crunching Israel timelines which then crunch Egyptian
timelines which then crunch Chinese timelines causing them to
be later than Babylon 1894 BC. Death is marked by Babylon
and by Ur with the dates Nov 1 of 2031 BC and Nov 2 of 1894 BC
being two new years 137 years apart equal to 139x 360 days.
1770 BC is confirmed as Adams 2256 (a number mistaken
by Egypt in 1290 BC to be span before the Flood and is why
the firebird of 1770 BC is mistaken as the Flood Venus
of 3090 BC Egypt or 3114 BC Mayan. And 1770 BC is
also Noah's year 1200 measuring half of the Venus 8-year pentacle
cycle as 600 years after the Flood. Another confirmation is
the Venus tablets as Adam's year 2400 mistaken as 3600,
and as Noah's year 1344 from his birth but Noahs 1344 is
mistaken as 1344 after the Flood (year 1770 BC after 3114 BC),
mistaking the year 1344 as following 2256 (3114 BC Flood)
to become year 3600. Thus Palenque Venus is year 6000 in 630 AD
being 2400 years later. This strongly implies that Venus described
as firebird did not exist before the July 10 of 1770 BC date.
Thus the triangular conjunction of Venus firebird in the Crab
refers to 1770 BC. However, EGypt marked the suns location
LEO which in Hebrew is ash or lion, and thus the Phoenix
firebird pronounced Venus firebird is referred to as coming out
of Ash (Leo). In reality, Venus passes thru Ash Aug 25 thru
Sep 25 leaving Ash before Toth 1 new year Nov 9.
The culmination of 6000 years occurs in 1975, however the
94-year restoration of Jerusalem (537 BC and 1914 AD)
being spiritual Christian not Jewish in the year 6000 of
360 days (4344 calendar years from 2370 BC Flood is
4283 years), results in 1975 as 6000 years occurring in year
61 as 33 years before the last record in Artaxerxes year 32.
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On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 01:30:51 -0500,
in article <ge12qu$7qu$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
"Ike" <xeickleberrybooks@msn.com> wrote:
| Quote: |
You haven't produced a single verse
of Scripture that directly says that, while I have produced an
extended passage, showing the Bible calls the licentious
beasts.
FROM A BOOK THAT DOESN'T EVEN BELONG IN THE BIBLE
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Which is why there's little point in trying to reason with you
on the basis of exegesis, since you use a different Bible.
That's why you _must_ rely on dogmatic assertion and shame
tactics, since your system _doesn't_ work unless everything
between the gospel and Revelation was written by uninspired
dolts who would have been better off just waiting for you to
come along and interpret the gospels for them.
Even so, you still haven't produced a single verse, even from
what you do consider Scripture, that comes right out and
states that it is specifically legalists who are the beasts of
the field.
--
Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him from the dead.
Rely on this work alone to escape hell and receive eternal
life (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess. 1:8-9).
We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself
up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every
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"Randy ®" <pulpitfire@gmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 01:30:51 -0500,
in article <ge12qu$7qu$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
"Ike" <xeickleberrybooks@msn.com> wrote:
You haven't produced a single verse
of Scripture that directly says that, while I have produced an
extended passage, showing the Bible calls the licentious
beasts.
FROM A BOOK THAT DOESN'T EVEN BELONG IN THE BIBLE
Which is why there's little point in trying to reason with you
on the basis of exegesis, since you use a different Bible.
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Horseshit.
Discounting three books that never should have made the cut (and WOULDN'T
have if they Patriarchs had had their way) is NOT "a different Bible,"
moron.
| Quote: | That's why you _must_ rely on dogmatic assertion and shame
tactics,
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More bullshit.
I QUOTE straight from the Word, while YOU continue with YOUR LYING DOGMATIC
ASSERTIONS, and YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED.
| Quote: | since your system _doesn't_ work unless everything
between the gospel and Revelation was written by uninspired
dolts who would have been better off just waiting for you to
come along and interpret the gospels for them.
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More bullshit.
I SAID what I SAID, and what I SAID is that EVERYTHING HAS TO BE EXAMINED
AND UTILIZED according to THE WEIGHT which it carries, IN THE MODE IN WHICH
IT WAS WRITTEN.
To say OTHERWISE is to IDOLIZE THE BIBLE.
| Quote: | Even so, you still haven't produced a single verse, even from
what you do consider Scripture, that comes right out and
states that it is specifically legalists who are the beasts of
the field.
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Yes, I did: JOHN'S USE OF SYMBOLISM IN REVELATION, UPHELD BY THE REST OF THE
PROPHETS.
"And I saw a beast," meaning NATURAL, UNGODLY MAN;
"rise from the EARTH," meaning FROM AMONG THE SEMITES;
"having two horns," meaning having authority of TWO THINGS;
"of a lamb," meaning AS A SELF-DEFINED SAVIOR, which means the TWO THINGS
that the beast has authority over are the TWO RELIGIOUS NATIONS of the
SEMITES, ISRAEL AND ISLAM;
"but spoke as a DRAGON," meaning HE WAS LYING THROUGH HIS TEETH.
AND HOW DOES THIS "BEAST" COME BY THIS POWER?
ANSWER: BY ATTACHING HIMSELF TO ISRAEL AND ISLAM AT THE SAME TIME BY
RECOGNIZING ISLAM'S COMPETING CLAIM TO THE PROMISES OF ABRAHAM, EVEN THOUGH
THE ARABS ARE OF THE REJECTED SONS WHILE THE ISRAELITES ARE OF THE SELECTED
SONS. (But, in truth, NEITHER ONE OF THESE will be "Israelites," as God
still has His "Israel" hidden in the nations.)
THAT'S "LEGALISM," MORON.
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On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:36:51 -0500,
in article <ge4cl5$qgn$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
"Ike" <xeickleberrybooks@msn.com> wrote:
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| Quote: | Even so, you still haven't produced a single verse, even from
what you do consider Scripture, that comes right out and
states that it is specifically legalists who are the beasts of
the field.
Yes, I did: JOHN'S USE OF SYMBOLISM IN REVELATION, UPHELD BY THE REST OF THE
PROPHETS.
"And I saw a beast," meaning NATURAL, UNGODLY MAN;
"rise from the EARTH," meaning FROM AMONG THE SEMITES;
"having two horns," meaning having authority of TWO THINGS;
"of a lamb," meaning AS A SELF-DEFINED SAVIOR, which means the TWO THINGS
that the beast has authority over are the TWO RELIGIOUS NATIONS of the
SEMITES, ISRAEL AND ISLAM;
"but spoke as a DRAGON," meaning HE WAS LYING THROUGH HIS TEETH.
AND HOW DOES THIS "BEAST" COME BY THIS POWER?
ANSWER: BY ATTACHING HIMSELF TO ISRAEL AND ISLAM AT THE SAME TIME BY
RECOGNIZING ISLAM'S COMPETING CLAIM TO THE PROMISES OF ABRAHAM, EVEN THOUGH
THE ARABS ARE OF THE REJECTED SONS WHILE THE ISRAELITES ARE OF THE SELECTED
SONS. (But, in truth, NEITHER ONE OF THESE will be "Israelites," as God
still has His "Israel" hidden in the nations.)
THAT'S "LEGALISM," MORON.
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That's not exegesis, that's your imagination.
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Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him from the dead.
Rely on this work alone to escape hell and receive eternal
life (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess. 1:8-9).
We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself
up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every
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On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:36:51 -0500,
in article <ge4cl5$qgn$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
"Ike" <xeickleberrybooks@msn.com> wrote:
[Trim to point]
Even so, you still haven't produced a single verse, even from
what you do consider Scripture, that comes right out and
states that it is specifically legalists who are the beasts of
the field.
Yes, I did: JOHN'S USE OF SYMBOLISM IN REVELATION, UPHELD BY THE REST OF
THE
PROPHETS.
"And I saw a beast," meaning NATURAL, UNGODLY MAN;
"rise from the EARTH," meaning FROM AMONG THE SEMITES;
"having two horns," meaning having authority of TWO THINGS;
"of a lamb," meaning AS A SELF-DEFINED SAVIOR, which means the TWO THINGS
that the beast has authority over are the TWO RELIGIOUS NATIONS of the
SEMITES, ISRAEL AND ISLAM;
"but spoke as a DRAGON," meaning HE WAS LYING THROUGH HIS TEETH.
AND HOW DOES THIS "BEAST" COME BY THIS POWER?
ANSWER: BY ATTACHING HIMSELF TO ISRAEL AND ISLAM AT THE SAME TIME BY
RECOGNIZING ISLAM'S COMPETING CLAIM TO THE PROMISES OF ABRAHAM, EVEN
THOUGH
THE ARABS ARE OF THE REJECTED SONS WHILE THE ISRAELITES ARE OF THE
SELECTED
SONS. (But, in truth, NEITHER ONE OF THESE will be "Israelites," as God
still has His "Israel" hidden in the nations.)
THAT'S "LEGALISM," MORON.
That's not exegesis, that's your imagination.
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You wish.
On the meaning of "beast:"
Ps 73:22 So foolish was I, and ignorant: I was as a beast before thee.
Ec 3:21 Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of
the beast that goeth downward to the earth?
All "animals" go to hell?
Jer 31:27 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will sow the house
of Israel and the house of Judah with the seed of man, and with the seed of
beast.
God commits "bestiality?'
On the meaning of "earth."
Ps 69:34 Let the heaven and earth praise him, the seas, and every thing that
moveth therein.
The "earth" can praise?
Jer 46:8 Egypt riseth up like a flood, and his waters are moved like the
rivers; and he saith, I will go up, and will cover the earth; I will destroy
the city and the inhabitants thereof.
Egypt thought it could conceivably cover the whole "planet?"
Eze 34:27 And the tree of the field shall yield her fruit, and the earth
shall yield her increase, and they shall be safe in their land, and shall
know that I am the LORD, when I have broken the bands of their yoke, and
delivered them out of the hand of those that served themselves of them.
The earth has its own "lands?" The "earth" will know God is Lord? God will
deliver the "earth?"
Ho 2:21 And it shall come to pass in that day, I will hear, saith the LORD,
I will hear the heavens, and they shall hear the earth;
The "earth" can hear? And be heard?
Ho 2:22 And the earth shall hear the corn, and the wine, and the oil; and
they shall hear Jezreel.
Again, the "earth" can hear?
On the meaning of "horns."
Ps 75:10 All the horns of the wicked also will I cut off; but the horns of
the righteous shall be exalted.
Since when did the wicked and righteous grow "horns?"
Da 8:20 The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media
and Persia.
The kings of Media and Persia (men of authority) were LITERALLY a ram with
two "horns?"
On the antithetic meaning of "Lamb."
Isa 66:3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a
lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he
offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol.
Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their
abominations.
On the meaning of "dragon."
Isa 27:1 In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall
punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent;
and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.
God has a beef with sea creatures?
Eze 29:3 Speak, and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee,
Pharaoh king of Egypt, the great dragon that lieth in the midst of his
rivers, which hath said, My river is mine own, and I have made it for
myself.
Pharaoh was literally a "dragon?"
Re 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the
Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years...
THIS is exegesis, oh, clueless one.
The MEANING of the symbolisms ARE GIVEN IN THE BIBLE, or EMBEDDED IN THE
WORDS OF THE TEXTS.
No guesswork required.
Somebody forgot to tell the Dipsysensationalists.
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On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:01:14 -0500,
in article <ge6rdv$4co$1@reader.motzarella.org>,
"Ike" <xeickleberrybooks@msn.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "Randy ®" <pulpitfire@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:qmdcg4ps7u2roieojgnupkvmv5jhlfk82a@4ax.com...
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:36:51 -0500,
in article <ge4cl5$qgn$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
"Ike" <xeickleberrybooks@msn.com> wrote:
[Trim to point]
Even so, you still haven't produced a single verse, even from
what you do consider Scripture, that comes right out and
states that it is specifically legalists who are the beasts of
the field.
Yes, I did: JOHN'S USE OF SYMBOLISM IN REVELATION, UPHELD BY THE REST OF
THE
PROPHETS.
"And I saw a beast," meaning NATURAL, UNGODLY MAN;
"rise from the EARTH," meaning FROM AMONG THE SEMITES;
"having two horns," meaning having authority of TWO THINGS;
"of a lamb," meaning AS A SELF-DEFINED SAVIOR, which means the TWO THINGS
that the beast has authority over are the TWO RELIGIOUS NATIONS of the
SEMITES, ISRAEL AND ISLAM;
"but spoke as a DRAGON," meaning HE WAS LYING THROUGH HIS TEETH.
AND HOW DOES THIS "BEAST" COME BY THIS POWER?
ANSWER: BY ATTACHING HIMSELF TO ISRAEL AND ISLAM AT THE SAME TIME BY
RECOGNIZING ISLAM'S COMPETING CLAIM TO THE PROMISES OF ABRAHAM, EVEN
THOUGH
THE ARABS ARE OF THE REJECTED SONS WHILE THE ISRAELITES ARE OF THE
SELECTED
SONS. (But, in truth, NEITHER ONE OF THESE will be "Israelites," as God
still has His "Israel" hidden in the nations.)
THAT'S "LEGALISM," MORON.
That's not exegesis, that's your imagination.
You wish.
On the meaning of "beast:"
Ps 73:22 So foolish was I, and ignorant: I was as a beast before thee.
Ec 3:21 Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of
the beast that goeth downward to the earth?
All "animals" go to hell?
Jer 31:27 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will sow the house
of Israel and the house of Judah with the seed of man, and with the seed of
beast.
God commits "bestiality?'
On the meaning of "earth."
Ps 69:34 Let the heaven and earth praise him, the seas, and every thing that
moveth therein.
The "earth" can praise?
Jer 46:8 Egypt riseth up like a flood, and his waters are moved like the
rivers; and he saith, I will go up, and will cover the earth; I will destroy
the city and the inhabitants thereof.
Egypt thought it could conceivably cover the whole "planet?"
Eze 34:27 And the tree of the field shall yield her fruit, and the earth
shall yield her increase, and they shall be safe in their land, and shall
know that I am the LORD, when I have broken the bands of their yoke, and
delivered them out of the hand of those that served themselves of them.
The earth has its own "lands?" The "earth" will know God is Lord? God will
deliver the "earth?"
Ho 2:21 And it shall come to pass in that day, I will hear, saith the LORD,
I will hear the heavens, and they shall hear the earth;
The "earth" can hear? And be heard?
Ho 2:22 And the earth shall hear the corn, and the wine, and the oil; and
they shall hear Jezreel.
Again, the "earth" can hear?
On the meaning of "horns."
Ps 75:10 All the horns of the wicked also will I cut off; but the horns of
the righteous shall be exalted.
Since when did the wicked and righteous grow "horns?"
Da 8:20 The ram which thou sawest h |
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