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 Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:17 pm Post subject: Re: Hey Kevin ! |
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On 25 Sep, 07:30, "1X2Willows" <spambuc...@euro-celts.dot.com> wrote:
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"1X2Willows" wrote
"Kevin" wrote
"1X2Willows" wrote
"Kevin" wrote
[....]
since warriors frequently used things like amulets invoking a deity's
power to avert illness, death in battle and so on.
Since we sort of flip-flop between eras in this conversation and I read
ahead to your answers, I'm going to have to ask you what warriors
you are talking about here, or rather, warriors of what era. Could you
narrow that down to a few centuries or so?
Sovereignty or translated "Genus Locii" are the only ones I can
think of, in said context. Never a so-called "deity".
Wheel symbols. Definitely the attribute of a god.
Know what you mean, I think, but dunno... I'd still hesitate to
employ such absolutes. Your respective research and inspiration
in honour (and I'll have to admit I still haven't read it all) but
isn't a wheel just a wheel sometimes? <puffing on cigar
Sometimes it is - but not in this instance. The fact that this symbol is
the attribute of a god is very well tied down.
I guess my question was: Was it first a symbol for the "yearly wheel"
and got later adapted as the attribute of a god or was it the other way
around? Don't know for sure but my money is on the former.
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Umm! Given that the symbol goes back so far, we'll never know. My bet
is that it was always both a symbol and an attribute. Some sort of
divine law established the course of the sun, and thus time and
agriculture, so it's a symbol of that law and the deity that is that
law. My guess though is that this lot, like a lot of 'Celtic' ideas
originated in the Neolithic with the development of farming, and got
refined, adapted and reinterpreted as time went on, and bronze then
iron came into use.
It was a Danish guy who pointed out the orientation of Danish
petroglyphs and a Michigan lass who pointed out why they would be
carved on large flat rocks that far north. In the upper Peninsula
Michigan any pole put in the ground will suffer serious frostheave -
give it 2-3 years and it will be leaning drunkenly to one side. She
sent me photos of old telegraph poles near her, and they were 15-20
degrees out of true. This is hopeless if you want to use pole for
accurate measurements - even 1 degree will bugger it. OTOH, a large
heavy flat rock won't move - it's probably an outcrop. No frostheave.
Carve the right orientation on the rock, and you can use sighting
poles to mark the exact day. They don't have to be permanent.
| Quote: | That it is a god is
definite - that the wheel is an attribute of said god is definite. Only
thing is, though it is called a wheel symbol, a careful analysis and
comparison with real wheels shows that it isn't in fact a wheel. It's just
that folks, being unimaginative, decided that a cross in a circle looked
wheel-like so it must be a wheel.
Yeah I got you there. So, in short, the point you're trying to make here
(and the one you're probably making in your dissertation) is, that
genuine wheel symbols are the ones with a dot or little concentric
circle in the middle (axle) while the other ones represent the yearly
cycle? As you can probably tell, I'm still confoozled...
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Ah, it's rather more complex than that. It's a whole analysis of
several factors such as spoke number. We've got examples of
contemporary wheels, so we know what they look like and how they were
built. As I recall, a good 90% of symbols from religious contexts have
four spokes. They didn't build four-spoked wheels - they'd collapse.
They did build wheels with 16 spokes. The only "16-spoked" wheel that
Green mentions in her survey is actually an 8-spoked half wheel in the
Gundestrup cauldron. It seems risky to me to assume that the artist
intended you to imagine that this was one half of a multi-spoked
wheel, which in any case would have had 15 spokes and not 16. In
short, an 8-spoked half wheel is necessarily intended to represent a
15 spoked full wheel, and shouldn't be treated as such when it comes
to analysis, because that's at best very bad statistics (Green is
appalling on stats) and at worst dishonest.
| Quote: | I mean... Take this one for example, just one of many out of
the 200-300'000 petroglyph depictions from Valcamonica
http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/inora/discoveries_46_2b.html
and read the caption. Then dig deeper and try to find out why
anyone would come up with such an interpretation. Totally
baseless IMO.
Hmm! Well, what you've got is a wheel and a probable horse. Not an unusual
combination - you get them on pre-Roman Iron Age coins.
Yes, familiar with that.
Connecting it to Taranis is baseless, though you could say "Celtic
sky god". Arguing that it is transporting it is also baseless.
Yup, though the whole notion of some critter named "Taranis"
being at least one of "(pan)Gallic gods" is still baseless to me.
My ancestors were Gauls and they certainly didn't worship gods
in that form at all; especially nothing in the form as can be
seen here, for example:http://kernunnos.com/deities/Taranis.shtml
What a laugh!
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Well, one of my suggestions in the dissertation was an explanation why
the 'Celts' may have originally preferred aniconic deities, however
you want to understand deities.
| Quote: | No doubt wagons, carts and especially chariots meant power and
'social status' but amulets like the ones you mention could as well
have been worn for the same reason as "FORD TOUGH" TShirts
or NIKE caps are being worn today. Fashionable means of
identification with any given group. Occam rocks.
Only problem is with the wheels=chariots= power equation is that the
earliest wheel symbols are Danish, and predate that culture having spoked
wheels. The Celtic version does not conform to the requirements of real
contemporary wheels - no match whatsoever. For good measure, the symbol is
also seen in pre-Columbian America, where they never had the wheel. The
American version instead describes the position of the sun through the
year - namely the rising and setting points at the solstices. A bit of
analysis of the Celtic 'wheel' indicates that it represents exactly the
same, and that's undoubtedly what the Danish ones represent, given that
they didn't have spoked wheels at all at that time - they hadn't even got
north of the Alps, so they would never have seen a spoked wheel.
Again... what era? I'm interested in everything back to about
the early bronze age in Europe, which knew chariots very well.
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The earliest Danish ones are Late Neolithic. they seem to be the first
appearance of this symbol. Now not claiming that the Danish symbols
are related to the later 'Celtic' ones. However, the existence of the
Danish symbols seriously weakens the argument of it being a symbolic
spoked wheel when the spoked wheel hadn't got to Denmark at the time
that they were carving circle and cross designs. The fact that an
exhaustive statistical analysis proves that there is zero connection
with real wheels, and that the design follows a different logic rather
disposes of the notion of a 'wheel' symbol for good, as well as any
interpretation of the iconography that depends upon it - though for
good measure I dismantled that as well, as well as the notion of a sun
*god* as in masculine deity. The idea that the wheel represented the
sun I demonstrated as fallacious, untested, unproven, unsound, and
unsupported by the evidence.
| Quote: | True - but we know what the locals called other spirits of place in their
own language, because we have inscriptions saying things like 'god' or
'goddess' in the local language.
None from before the Roman conquest (say, 60BCE to make it simple?)
and except for areas which would have been subjected to acculturation
(Roman, Greek, Scythian...) by territorial proximity, no.
If you have any evidence to the contrary at all, please.
I'll be the first one to be interested.
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Ah, well there you have a rub!  They picked up writing by
territorial proximity in order to be able to write their thoughts on
things, so of necessity there was some acculturation. There won't,
OTOH, be inscriptions from areas where they are not acculturated to
some degree. We can't therefore say anything about them at that
stage. Which of course rules out all the Irish texts cos they were
close enough to the empire to have some acculturation. :-)
OTOH, given the antiquity of the notion of deity, it's probably
unlikely that unacculturated Celtic-speaking people lacked gods. Of
course, there is the hypothesis that groups that remained
unacculturated by Mediterranean cultures eventually developed a
trading culture centred on the Baltic which led to the development of
the Germanic languages - and the Germanic-speaking peoples certainly
had gods. However, by the time they get round to telling us about
gods, they've also adopted writing and become acculturated. :-)
Problem! We have similar problems with dealing with, for example,
the Neolithic.
| Quote: | People had gods - we know this. They're all over the place. Even in Irish
texts, you have folks saying things like "I swear by the god my people
swear by." There's no reason to suppose that the notion of a god was a
Roman introduction to Ireland - in fact, given that the same concept turns
up in the earliest stratum of the Vedas, which may well be Bronze Age
according to some estimations, it is probably an ancient concept as far as
Indo-European languages are concerned. It is certainly an ancient concept
generally - it turns up in Sumer. In short, neither the Romans, Greeks nor
Egyptians invented the idea.
I'd agree "People had a sense of awe" about life per se as they do now.
Not everyone calls 'em "god" though. That's a rather deist take.
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Well, in many cultures you get these personified bits of the universe
that folks make offerings to or, at the very least, show reverence to.
| Quote: | Down in the flatlands maybe...
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ah - well things might have gone slightly differently up in the
remotest parts of the Alps. :-)
| Quote: | ;-Dan (sorry... getting tired)
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Ah, that's OK.
Kevin |
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Mairtin O'Druachain
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: Hey Kevin ! |
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On Sep 25, 1:17 pm, Kevin <laighl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | On 25 Sep, 07:30, "1X2Willows" <spambuc...@euro-celts.dot.com> wrote:
"Kevin" wrote
"1X2Willows" wrote
"Kevin" wrote
"1X2Willows" wrote
"Kevin" wrote
[....]
since warriors frequently used things like amulets invoking a deity's
power to avert illness, death in battle and so on.
Since we sort of flip-flop between eras in this conversation and I read
ahead to your answers, I'm going to have to ask you what warriors
you are talking about here, or rather, warriors of what era. Could you
narrow that down to a few centuries or so?
Sovereignty or translated "Genus Locii" are the only ones I can
think of, in said context. Never a so-called "deity".
Wheel symbols. Definitely the attribute of a god.
Know what you mean, I think, but dunno... I'd still hesitate to
employ such absolutes. Your respective research and inspiration
in honour (and I'll have to admit I still haven't read it all) but
isn't a wheel just a wheel sometimes? <puffing on cigar
Sometimes it is - but not in this instance. The fact that this symbol is
the attribute of a god is very well tied down.
I guess my question was: Was it first a symbol for the "yearly wheel"
and got later adapted as the attribute of a god or was it the other way
around? Don't know for sure but my money is on the former.
Umm! Given that the symbol goes back so far, we'll never know. My bet
is that it was always both a symbol and an attribute. Some sort of
divine law established the course of the sun, and thus time and
agriculture, so it's a symbol of that law and the deity that is that
law. My guess though is that this lot, like a lot of 'Celtic' ideas
originated in the Neolithic with the development of farming, and got
refined, adapted and reinterpreted as time went on, and bronze then
iron came into use.
It was a Danish guy who pointed out the orientation of Danish
petroglyphs and a Michigan lass who pointed out why they would be
carved on large flat rocks that far north. In the upper Peninsula
Michigan any pole put in the ground will suffer serious frostheave -
give it 2-3 years and it will be leaning drunkenly to one side. She
sent me photos of old telegraph poles near her, and they were 15-20
degrees out of true. This is hopeless if you want to use pole for
accurate measurements - even 1 degree will bugger it. OTOH, a large
heavy flat rock won't move - it's probably an outcrop. No frostheave.
Carve the right orientation on the rock, and you can use sighting
poles to mark the exact day. They don't have to be permanent.
That it is a god is
definite - that the wheel is an attribute of said god is definite. Only
thing is, though it is called a wheel symbol, a careful analysis and
comparison with real wheels shows that it isn't in fact a wheel. It's just
that folks, being unimaginative, decided that a cross in a circle looked
wheel-like so it must be a wheel.
Yeah I got you there. So, in short, the point you're trying to make here
(and the one you're probably making in your dissertation) is, that
genuine wheel symbols are the ones with a dot or little concentric
circle in the middle (axle) while the other ones represent the yearly
cycle? As you can probably tell, I'm still confoozled...
Ah, it's rather more complex than that. It's a whole analysis of
several factors such as spoke number. We've got examples of
contemporary wheels, so we know what they look like and how they were
built. As I recall, a good 90% of symbols from religious contexts have
four spokes. They didn't build four-spoked wheels - they'd collapse.
They did build wheels with 16 spokes. The only "16-spoked" wheel that
Green mentions in her survey is actually an 8-spoked half wheel in the
Gundestrup cauldron. It seems risky to me to assume that the artist
intended you to imagine that this was one half of a multi-spoked
wheel, which in any case would have had 15 spokes and not 16. In
short, an 8-spoked half wheel is necessarily intended to represent a
15 spoked full wheel, and shouldn't be treated as such when it comes
to analysis, because that's at best very bad statistics (Green is
appalling on stats) and at worst dishonest.
I mean... Take this one for example, just one of many out of
the 200-300'000 petroglyph depictions from Valcamonica
http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/inora/discoveries_46_2b.html
and read the caption. Then dig deeper and try to find out why
anyone would come up with such an interpretation. Totally
baseless IMO.
Hmm! Well, what you've got is a wheel and a probable horse. Not an unusual
combination - you get them on pre-Roman Iron Age coins.
Yes, familiar with that.
Connecting it to Taranis is baseless, though you could say "Celtic
sky god". Arguing that it is transporting it is also baseless.
Yup, though the whole notion of some critter named "Taranis"
being at least one of "(pan)Gallic gods" is still baseless to me.
My ancestors were Gauls and they certainly didn't worship gods
in that form at all; especially nothing in the form as can be
seen here, for example:http://kernunnos.com/deities/Taranis.shtml
What a laugh!
Well, one of my suggestions in the dissertation was an explanation why
the 'Celts' may have originally preferred aniconic deities, however
you want to understand deities.
No doubt wagons, carts and especially chariots meant power and
'social status' but amulets like the ones you mention could as well
have been worn for the same reason as "FORD TOUGH" TShirts
or NIKE caps are being worn today. Fashionable means of
identification with any given group. Occam rocks.
Only problem is with the wheels=chariots= power equation is that the
earliest wheel symbols are Danish, and predate that culture having spoked
wheels. The Celtic version does not conform to the requirements of real
contemporary wheels - no match whatsoever. For good measure, the symbol is
also seen in pre-Columbian America, where they never had the wheel. The
American version instead describes the position of the sun through the
year - namely the rising and setting points at the solstices. A bit of
analysis of the Celtic 'wheel' indicates that it represents exactly the
same, and that's undoubtedly what the Danish ones represent, given that
they didn't have spoked wheels at all at that time - they hadn't even got
north of the Alps, so they would never have seen a spoked wheel.
Again... what era? I'm interested in everything back to about
the early bronze age in Europe, which knew chariots very well.
The earliest Danish ones are Late Neolithic. they seem to be the first
appearance of this symbol. Now not claiming that the Danish symbols
are related to the later 'Celtic' ones. However, the existence of the
Danish symbols seriously weakens the argument of it being a symbolic
spoked wheel when the spoked wheel hadn't got to Denmark at the time
that they were carving circle and cross designs. The fact that an
exhaustive statistical analysis proves that there is zero connection
with real wheels, and that the design follows a different logic rather
disposes of the notion of a 'wheel' symbol for good, as well as any
interpretation of the iconography that depends upon it - though for
good measure I dismantled that as well, as well as the notion of a sun
*god* as in masculine deity. The idea that the wheel represented the
sun I demonstrated as fallacious, untested, unproven, unsound, and
unsupported by the evidence.
True - but we know what the locals called other spirits of place in their
own language, because we have inscriptions saying things like 'god' or
'goddess' in the local language.
None from before the Roman conquest (say, 60BCE to make it simple?)
and except for areas which would have been subjected to acculturation
(Roman, Greek, Scythian...) by territorial proximity, no.
If you have any evidence to the contrary at all, please.
I'll be the first one to be interested.
Ah, well there you have a rub! They picked up writing by
territorial proximity in order to be able to write their thoughts on
things, so of necessity there was some acculturation. There won't,
OTOH, be inscriptions from areas where they are not acculturated to
some degree. We can't therefore say anything about them at that
stage. Which of course rules out all the Irish texts cos they were
close enough to the empire to have some acculturation. :-)
OTOH, given the antiquity of the notion of deity, it's probably
unlikely that unacculturated Celtic-speaking people lacked gods. Of
course, there is the hypothesis that groups that remained
unacculturated by Mediterranean cultures eventually developed a
trading culture centred on the Baltic which led to the development of
the Germanic languages - and the Germanic-speaking peoples certainly
had gods. However, by the time they get round to telling us about
gods, they've also adopted writing and become acculturated. :-)
Problem! We have similar problems with dealing with, for example,
the Neolithic.
People had gods - we know this. They're all over the place. Even in Irish
texts, you have folks saying things like "I swear by the god my people
swear by." There's no reason to suppose that the notion of a god was a
Roman introduction to Ireland - in fact, given that the same concept turns
up in the earliest stratum of the Vedas, which may well be Bronze Age
according to some estimations, it is probably an ancient concept as far as
Indo-European languages are concerned. It is certainly an ancient concept
generally - it turns up in Sumer. In short, neither the Romans, Greeks nor
Egyptians invented the idea.
I'd agree "People had a sense of awe" about life per se as they do now.
Not everyone calls 'em "god" though. That's a rather deist take.
Well, in many cultures you get these personified bits of the universe
that folks make offerings to or, at the very least, show reverence to.
Down in the flatlands maybe...
ah - well things might have gone slightly differently up in the
remotest parts of the Alps. :-)
;-Dan (sorry... getting tired)
Ah, that's OK.
Kevin
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Again, Knitwear Fashion Lady Kevin, you are on about the Celts who
were never in Ireland and have never had anything to do with what went
on here, you are equating Druids with Celts, then if so the Irish must
have introduced the Celts of mainland Europe to Druidry, because if
not, then we could never have had Druidry in Ireland as the Celts
never came here - and not to have had Druidry in Ireland goes against
every historical idea imaginable and existent in the world.
Now why don't you come on out of the closet, out of your anonymity
where you pretend to be an academic historian possessing
qualifications, and tell us all about it, then we may believe the more
splendid of your ideas.
The one thing to be said of Con Connor is that he is there, out in the
open, for you or anybody else to actually go and visit and see amd
press his flesh if you want to (not advisable). The same can be said
for people like Searles, he is real and you can go and visit and see
him.
And that is the open honest truth of us here as well.
No "Druidic" names, no "Celtic" names, no names but our own. No hiding
in closets, everything up front, everything honest and transparent,
everything accountable for, that's us.
Anonyimity is cowardly, this thing of a woman pretending to be a man
suggests a person who needs psychiatric help in a big way. Maybe
"Kevin" you should take time off to find out if you are a male
historian or a lady Knitwear Designer ?????????????
Anonymity has little Truth, little verifiable. Go back to writing
anonymous letters to the editor that nobody takes seriously, why
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Kevin
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:16 pm Post subject: Re: Hey Kevin ! |
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On 25 Sep, 15:31, Mairtin O'Druachain <DruidE...@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Again, Knitwear Fashion Lady Kevin
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BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
So you found my girlfriend's place. Whoopee! You didn't read
it very well though. And don't bother thinking that she just does
knitwear design so she can't have a brain - the lass has an MSc, has
done cutting edge research in biology, has more grasp of history than
you ever will, and is competent - even extraordinarily talented - in a
number of other areas. It would be a very foolish person who
underestimated that lass, as Dan is aware.
All I can say is that your on-line research is as good as your
historical research, otherwise you'd know what I looked like and the
twon in which I live. It took me all of 30 seconds. You sir, are a
rank incompetent when it comes to research. However, we already knew
that, and didn't need you to embarass yourself further by proving
it.  I am however grateful that you did so. <bows deeply with
an ironical air>
| Quote: | Now why don't you come on out of the closet, out of your anonymity
where you pretend to be an academic historian possessing
qualifications, and tell us all about it, then we may believe the more
splendid of your ideas.
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You know - the one thing I've never been on Usenet is anonymous.
Unusual, I know, but I never bothered. And there are folks on here who
have met me IRL and are even now no doubt rolling around hooting. :-D
| Quote: | No "Druidic" names, no "Celtic" names, no names but our own. No hiding
in closets, everything up front, everything honest and transparent,
everything accountable for, that's us.
Anonyimity is cowardly, this thing of a woman pretending to be a man
suggests a person who needs psychiatric help in a big way. Maybe
"Kevin" you should take time off to find out if you are a male
historian or a lady Knitwear Designer ?????????????
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ROFL!! Oh my! You really are an ejit, and flailing around madly,
aren't you? You can't even work out from the style of writing whether
someone is male or female! You're unable to research, you don't even
know the questions to ask, and you just thrash from one illogical
conclusion to another.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Ah, you've just made me day! The Great Pretender accusing the one
person who is easily verifiably not pretending of pretence!
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
<weeps from laughter!> Oh it just goes on getting better! :-D
Kevin |
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Mairtin O'Druachain
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:40 pm Post subject: Re: Hey Kevin ! |
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On Sep 25, 4:16 pm, Kevin <laighl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | On 25 Sep, 15:31, Mairtin O'Druachain <DruidE...@gmail.com> wrote:
Again, Knitwear Fashion Lady Kevin
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
So you found my girlfriend's place. Whoopee! You didn't read
it very well though. And don't bother thinking that she just does
knitwear design so she can't have a brain - the lass has an MSc, has
done cutting edge research in biology, has more grasp of history than
you ever will, and is competent - even extraordinarily talented - in a
number of other areas. It would be a very foolish person who
underestimated that lass, as Dan is aware.
All I can say is that your on-line research is as good as your
historical research, otherwise you'd know what I looked like and the
twon in which I live. It took me all of 30 seconds. You sir, are a
rank incompetent when it comes to research. However, we already knew
that, and didn't need you to embarass yourself further by proving
it. I am however grateful that you did so. <bows deeply with
an ironical air
Now why don't you come on out of the closet, out of your anonymity
where you pretend to be an academic historian possessing
qualifications, and tell us all about it, then we may believe the more
splendid of your ideas.
You know - the one thing I've never been on Usenet is anonymous.
Unusual, I know, but I never bothered. And there are folks on here who
have met me IRL and are even now no doubt rolling around hooting. :-D
No "Druidic" names, no "Celtic" names, no names but our own. No hiding
in closets, everything up front, everything honest and transparent,
everything accountable for, that's us.
Anonyimity is cowardly, this thing of a woman pretending to be a man
suggests a person who needs psychiatric help in a big way. Maybe
"Kevin" you should take time off to find out if you are a male
historian or a lady Knitwear Designer ?????????????
ROFL!! Oh my! You really are an ejit, and flailing around madly,
aren't you? You can't even work out from the style of writing whether
someone is male or female! You're unable to research, you don't even
know the questions to ask, and you just thrash from one illogical
conclusion to another.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Ah, you've just made me day! The Great Pretender accusing the one
person who is easily verifiably not pretending of pretence!
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
weeps from laughter!> Oh it just goes on getting better! :-D
Kevin
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Of course Caroline is brainy and qualified and talented in every way,
and really pretty too, I should know, haven't I been engaged in
"combat" with her this past few weeks -
Now that I know who you are, "Kevin", have no fear, I do not intend to
expose you much further or to argue the toss with you, Love, get down
to that business of yours, it will be a huge success.
Love,
Mairtin.
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Kevin
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:45 pm Post subject: Re: Hey Kevin ! |
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On 25 Sep, 16:40, Mairtin O'Druachain <DruidE...@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Sep 25, 4:16 pm, Kevin <laighl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On 25 Sep, 15:31, Mairtin O'Druachain <DruidE...@gmail.com> wrote:
Again, Knitwear Fashion Lady Kevin
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
So you found my girlfriend's place. Whoopee! You didn't read
it very well though. And don't bother thinking that she just does
knitwear design so she can't have a brain - the lass has an MSc, has
done cutting edge research in biology, has more grasp of history than
you ever will, and is competent - even extraordinarily talented - in a
number of other areas. It would be a very foolish person who
underestimated that lass, as Dan is aware.
All I can say is that your on-line research is as good as your
historical research, otherwise you'd know what I looked like and the
twon in which I live. It took me all of 30 seconds. You sir, are a
rank incompetent when it comes to research. However, we already knew
that, and didn't need you to embarass yourself further by proving
it. I am however grateful that you did so. <bows deeply with
an ironical air
Now why don't you come on out of the closet, out of your anonymity
where you pretend to be an academic historian possessing
qualifications, and tell us all about it, then we may believe the more
splendid of your ideas.
You know - the one thing I've never been on Usenet is anonymous.
Unusual, I know, but I never bothered. And there are folks on here who
have met me IRL and are even now no doubt rolling around hooting. :-D
No "Druidic" names, no "Celtic" names, no names but our own. No hiding
in closets, everything up front, everything honest and transparent,
everything accountable for, that's us.
Anonyimity is cowardly, this thing of a woman pretending to be a man
suggests a person who needs psychiatric help in a big way. Maybe
"Kevin" you should take time off to find out if you are a male
historian or a lady Knitwear Designer ?????????????
ROFL!! Oh my! You really are an ejit, and flailing around madly,
aren't you? You can't even work out from the style of writing whether
someone is male or female! You're unable to research, you don't even
know the questions to ask, and you just thrash from one illogical
conclusion to another.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Ah, you've just made me day! The Great Pretender accusing the one
person who is easily verifiably not pretending of pretence!
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
weeps from laughter!> Oh it just goes on getting better! :-D
Kevin
Of course Caroline is brainy and qualified and talented in every way,
and really pretty too, I should know, haven't I been engaged in
"combat" with her this past few weeks -
Now that I know who you are, "Kevin", have no fear, I do not intend to
expose you much further or to argue the toss with you, Love, get down
to that business of yours, it will be a huge success.
Love,
Mairtin.
(trying to keep the smile off my face).- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
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Oh boy, have you got a lot of egg on your face! :-)
Oh, and I'd not be calling Cal "Love" if she ever decides to get back
on here. Ooooooooooooooooooh no! She'd be feeding you your own
testicles!
Something about the men in our family - we have a weakness for strong
women. :-)
Kevin |
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Mairtin O'Druachain
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:50 pm Post subject: Re: Hey Kevin ! |
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On Sep 25, 4:45 pm, Kevin <laighl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | On 25 Sep, 16:40, Mairtin O'Druachain <DruidE...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 25, 4:16 pm, Kevin <laighl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On 25 Sep, 15:31, Mairtin O'Druachain <DruidE...@gmail.com> wrote:
Again, Knitwear Fashion Lady Kevin
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
So you found my girlfriend's place. Whoopee! You didn't read
it very well though. And don't bother thinking that she just does
knitwear design so she can't have a brain - the lass has an MSc, has
done cutting edge research in biology, has more grasp of history than
you ever will, and is competent - even extraordinarily talented - in a
number of other areas. It would be a very foolish person who
underestimated that lass, as Dan is aware.
All I can say is that your on-line research is as good as your
historical research, otherwise you'd know what I looked like and the
twon in which I live. It took me all of 30 seconds. You sir, are a
rank incompetent when it comes to research. However, we already knew
that, and didn't need you to embarass yourself further by proving
it. I am however grateful that you did so. <bows deeply with
an ironical air
Now why don't you come on out of the closet, out of your anonymity
where you pretend to be an academic historian possessing
qualifications, and tell us all about it, then we may believe the more
splendid of your ideas.
You know - the one thing I've never been on Usenet is anonymous.
Unusual, I know, but I never bothered. And there are folks on here who
have met me IRL and are even now no doubt rolling around hooting. :-D
No "Druidic" names, no "Celtic" names, no names but our own. No hiding
in closets, everything up front, everything honest and transparent,
everything accountable for, that's us.
Anonyimity is cowardly, this thing of a woman pretending to be a man
suggests a person who needs psychiatric help in a big way. Maybe
"Kevin" you should take time off to find out if you are a male
historian or a lady Knitwear Designer ?????????????
ROFL!! Oh my! You really are an ejit, and flailing around madly,
aren't you? You can't even work out from the style of writing whether
someone is male or female! You're unable to research, you don't even
know the questions to ask, and you just thrash from one illogical
conclusion to another.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Ah, you've just made me day! The Great Pretender accusing the one
person who is easily verifiably not pretending of pretence!
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
weeps from laughter!> Oh it just goes on getting better! :-D
Kevin
Of course Caroline is brainy and qualified and talented in every way,
and really pretty too, I should know, haven't I been engaged in
"combat" with her this past few weeks -
Now that I know who you are, "Kevin", have no fear, I do not intend to
expose you much further or to argue the toss with you, Love, get down
to that business of yours, it will be a huge success.
Love,
Mairtin.
(trying to keep the smile off my face).- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Oh boy, have you got a lot of egg on your face! :-)
Oh, and I'd not be calling Cal "Love" if she ever decides to get back
on here. Ooooooooooooooooooh no! She'd be feeding you your own
testicles!
Something about the men in our family - we have a weakness for strong
women. :-)
Kevin
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Of course, the lady Caroline is strong, like her alter ego, "Kevin
Jones"
Mairtin
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Kevin
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:04 pm Post subject: Re: Hey Kevin ! |
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On 25 Sep, 16:50, Mairtin O'Druachain <DruidE...@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Sep 25, 4:45 pm, Kevin <laighl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On 25 Sep, 16:40, Mairtin O'Druachain <DruidE...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 25, 4:16 pm, Kevin <laighl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On 25 Sep, 15:31, Mairtin O'Druachain <DruidE...@gmail.com> wrote:
Again, Knitwear Fashion Lady Kevin
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
So you found my girlfriend's place. Whoopee! You didn't read
it very well though. And don't bother thinking that she just does
knitwear design so she can't have a brain - the lass has an MSc, has
done cutting edge research in biology, has more grasp of history than
you ever will, and is competent - even extraordinarily talented - in a
number of other areas. It would be a very foolish person who
underestimated that lass, as Dan is aware.
All I can say is that your on-line research is as good as your
historical research, otherwise you'd know what I looked like and the
twon in which I live. It took me all of 30 seconds. You sir, are a
rank incompetent when it comes to research. However, we already knew
that, and didn't need you to embarass yourself further by proving
it. I am however grateful that you did so. <bows deeply with
an ironical air
Now why don't you come on out of the closet, out of your anonymity
where you pretend to be an academic historian possessing
qualifications, and tell us all about it, then we may believe the more
splendid of your ideas.
You know - the one thing I've never been on Usenet is anonymous.
Unusual, I know, but I never bothered. And there are folks on here who
have met me IRL and are even now no doubt rolling around hooting. :-D
No "Druidic" names, no "Celtic" names, no names but our own. No hiding
in closets, everything up front, everything honest and transparent,
everything accountable for, that's us.
Anonyimity is cowardly, this thing of a woman pretending to be a man
suggests a person who needs psychiatric help in a big way. Maybe
"Kevin" you should take time off to find out if you are a male
historian or a lady Knitwear Designer ?????????????
ROFL!! Oh my! You really are an ejit, and flailing around madly,
aren't you? You can't even work out from the style of writing whether
someone is male or female! You're unable to research, you don't even
know the questions to ask, and you just thrash from one illogical
conclusion to another.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Ah, you've just made me day! The Great Pretender accusing the one
person who is easily verifiably not pretending of pretence!
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
weeps from laughter!> Oh it just goes on getting better! :-D
Kevin
Of course Caroline is brainy and qualified and talented in every way,
and really pretty too, I should know, haven't I been engaged in
"combat" with her this past few weeks -
Now that I know who you are, "Kevin", have no fear, I do not intend to
expose you much further or to argue the toss with you, Love, get down
to that business of yours, it will be a huge success.
Love,
Mairtin.
(trying to keep the smile off my face).- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Oh boy, have you got a lot of egg on your face! :-)
Oh, and I'd not be calling Cal "Love" if she ever decides to get back
on here. Ooooooooooooooooooh no! She'd be feeding you your own
testicles!
Something about the men in our family - we have a weakness for strong
women. :-)
Kevin
Of course, the lady Caroline is strong, like her alter ego, "Kevin
Jones"
Mairtin
(Sniggering now)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
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You know, as my mother would say, once you've got an idea in your
head, hammer and chisel wouldn't shift it. The faintest idea that you
have, once again, made an arse out of yourself, doesn't even occur to
you. You reckon any belief that you hold is absolute, no matter if the
entire world tells you - or even shows you - that you are wrong. You
figure you're right on any issue that you hold a belief on, and get
baffled and upset if folks challenge you. After all, they must be
wrong, mustn't they?
Oh well, your funeral.
Kevin |
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Jim
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:24 pm Post subject: Re: Hey Kevin ! |
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"Kevin" <laighleas@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1190736295.074967.44590@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | On 25 Sep, 16:50, Mairtin O'Druachain <DruidE...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 25, 4:45 pm, Kevin <laighl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On 25 Sep, 16:40, Mairtin O'Druachain <DruidE...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 25, 4:16 pm, Kevin <laighl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On 25 Sep, 15:31, Mairtin O'Druachain <DruidE...@gmail.com> wrote:
Again, Knitwear Fashion Lady Kevin
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
So you found my girlfriend's place. Whoopee! You didn't
read
it very well though. And don't bother thinking that she just does
knitwear design so she can't have a brain - the lass has an MSc,
has
done cutting edge research in biology, has more grasp of history
than
you ever will, and is competent - even extraordinarily talented -
in a
number of other areas. It would be a very foolish person who
underestimated that lass, as Dan is aware.
All I can say is that your on-line research is as good as your
historical research, otherwise you'd know what I looked like and
the
twon in which I live. It took me all of 30 seconds. You sir, are a
rank incompetent when it comes to research. However, we already
knew
that, and didn't need you to embarass yourself further by proving
it. I am however grateful that you did so. <bows deeply
with
an ironical air
Now why don't you come on out of the closet, out of your
anonymity
where you pretend to be an academic historian possessing
qualifications, and tell us all about it, then we may believe the
more
splendid of your ideas.
You know - the one thing I've never been on Usenet is anonymous.
Unusual, I know, but I never bothered. And there are folks on here
who
have met me IRL and are even now no doubt rolling around hooting.
:-D
No "Druidic" names, no "Celtic" names, no names but our own. No
hiding
in closets, everything up front, everything honest and
transparent,
everything accountable for, that's us.
Anonyimity is cowardly, this thing of a woman pretending to be a
man
suggests a person who needs psychiatric help in a big way. Maybe
"Kevin" you should take time off to find out if you are a male
historian or a lady Knitwear Designer ?????????????
ROFL!! Oh my! You really are an ejit, and flailing around madly,
aren't you? You can't even work out from the style of writing
whether
someone is male or female! You're unable to research, you don't
even
know the questions to ask, and you just thrash from one illogical
conclusion to another.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Ah, you've just made me day! The Great Pretender accusing the
one
person who is easily verifiably not pretending of pretence!
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
weeps from laughter!> Oh it just goes on getting better! :-D
Kevin
Of course Caroline is brainy and qualified and talented in every way,
and really pretty too, I should know, haven't I been engaged in
"combat" with her this past few weeks -
Now that I know who you are, "Kevin", have no fear, I do not intend
to
expose you much further or to argue the toss with you, Love, get down
to that business of yours, it will be a huge success.
Love,
Mairtin.
(trying to keep the smile off my face).- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Oh boy, have you got a lot of egg on your face! :-)
Oh, and I'd not be calling Cal "Love" if she ever decides to get back
on here. Ooooooooooooooooooh no! She'd be feeding you your own
testicles!
Something about the men in our family - we have a weakness for strong
women. :-)
Kevin
Of course, the lady Caroline is strong, like her alter ego, "Kevin
Jones"
Mairtin
(Sniggering now)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You know, as my mother would say, once you've got an idea in your
head, hammer and chisel wouldn't shift it. The faintest idea that you
have, once again, made an arse out of yourself, doesn't even occur to
you. You reckon any belief that you hold is absolute, no matter if the
entire world tells you - or even shows you - that you are wrong. You
figure you're right on any issue that you hold a belief on, and get
baffled and upset if folks challenge you. After all, they must be
wrong, mustn't they?
Oh well, your funeral.
Kevin
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Kevin
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:40 pm Post subject: Re: Hey Kevin ! |
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On 25 Sep, 18:24, "Jim" <stonelo...@softcom.net> wrote:
| Quote: | "Kevin" <laighl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1190736295.074967.44590@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On 25 Sep, 16:50, Mairtin O'Druachain <DruidE...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 25, 4:45 pm, Kevin <laighl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On 25 Sep, 16:40, Mairtin O'Druachain <DruidE...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 25, 4:16 pm, Kevin <laighl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On 25 Sep, 15:31, Mairtin O'Druachain <DruidE...@gmail.com> wrote:
Again, Knitwear Fashion Lady Kevin
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
So you found my girlfriend's place. Whoopee! You didn't
read
it very well though. And don't bother thinking that she just does
knitwear design so she can't have a brain - the lass has an MSc,
has
done cutting edge research in biology, has more grasp of history
than
you ever will, and is competent - even extraordinarily talented -
in a
number of other areas. It would be a very foolish person who
underestimated that lass, as Dan is aware.
All I can say is that your on-line research is as good as your
historical research, otherwise you'd know what I looked like and
the
twon in which I live. It took me all of 30 seconds. You sir, are a
rank incompetent when it comes to research. However, we already
knew
that, and didn't need you to embarass yourself further by proving
it. I am however grateful that you did so. <bows deeply
with
an ironical air
Now why don't you come on out of the closet, out of your
anonymity
where you pretend to be an academic historian possessing
qualifications, and tell us all about it, then we may believe the
more
splendid of your ideas.
You know - the one thing I've never been on Usenet is anonymous.
Unusual, I know, but I never bothered. And there are folks on here
who
have met me IRL and are even now no doubt rolling around hooting.
:-D
No "Druidic" names, no "Celtic" names, no names but our own. No
hiding
in closets, everything up front, everything honest and
transparent,
everything accountable for, that's us.
Anonyimity is cowardly, this thing of a woman pretending to be a
man
suggests a person who needs psychiatric help in a big way. Maybe
"Kevin" you should take time off to find out if you are a male
historian or a lady Knitwear Designer ?????????????
ROFL!! Oh my! You really are an ejit, and flailing around madly,
aren't you? You can't even work out from the style of writing
whether
someone is male or female! You're unable to research, you don't
even
know the questions to ask, and you just thrash from one illogical
conclusion to another.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Ah, you've just made me day! The Great Pretender accusing the
one
person who is easily verifiably not pretending of pretence!
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
weeps from laughter!> Oh it just goes on getting better! :-D
Kevin
Of course Caroline is brainy and qualified and talented in every way,
and really pretty too, I should know, haven't I been engaged in
"combat" with her this past few weeks -
Now that I know who you are, "Kevin", have no fear, I do not intend
to
expose you much further or to argue the toss with you, Love, get down
to that business of yours, it will be a huge success.
Love,
Mairtin.
(trying to keep the smile off my face).- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Oh boy, have you got a lot of egg on your face! :-)
Oh, and I'd not be calling Cal "Love" if she ever decides to get back
on here. Ooooooooooooooooooh no! She'd be feeding you your own
testicles!
Something about the men in our family - we have a weakness for strong
women. :-)
Kevin
Of course, the lady Caroline is strong, like her alter ego, "Kevin
Jones"
Mairtin
(Sniggering now)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You know, as my mother would say, once you've got an idea in your
head, hammer and chisel wouldn't shift it. The faintest idea that you
have, once again, made an arse out of yourself, doesn't even occur to
you. You reckon any belief that you hold is absolute, no matter if the
entire world tells you - or even shows you - that you are wrong. You
figure you're right on any issue that you hold a belief on, and get
baffled and upset if folks challenge you. After all, they must be
wrong, mustn't they?
Oh well, your funeral.
Kevin
Fantasy Island is just westward across the Irish sea.- Hide quoted text -
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:-)
Somewhere, over the rainbow
Bluebirds fly . . .
Y'know Toto, I don't think we're in Kansas any more! :-)
Kevin |
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Mairtin O'Druachain
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:43 pm Post subject: Re: Hey Kevin ! |
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On Sep 25, 5:04 pm, Kevin <laighl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | On 25 Sep, 16:50, Mairtin O'Druachain <DruidE...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 25, 4:45 pm, Kevin <laighl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On 25 Sep, 16:40, Mairtin O'Druachain <DruidE...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 25, 4:16 pm, Kevin <laighl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On 25 Sep, 15:31, Mairtin O'Druachain <DruidE...@gmail.com> wrote:
Again, Knitwear Fashion Lady Kevin
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
So you found my girlfriend's place. Whoopee! You didn't read
it very well though. And don't bother thinking that she just does
knitwear design so she can't have a brain - the lass has an MSc, has
done cutting edge research in biology, has more grasp of history than
you ever will, and is competent - even extraordinarily talented - in a
number of other areas. It would be a very foolish person who
underestimated that lass, as Dan is aware.
All I can say is that your on-line research is as good as your
historical research, otherwise you'd know what I looked like and the
twon in which I live. It took me all of 30 seconds. You sir, are a
rank incompetent when it comes to research. However, we already knew
that, and didn't need you to embarass yourself further by proving
it. I am however grateful that you did so. <bows deeply with
an ironical air
Now why don't you come on out of the closet, out of your anonymity
where you pretend to be an academic historian possessing
qualifications, and tell us all about it, then we may believe the more
splendid of your ideas.
You know - the one thing I've never been on Usenet is anonymous.
Unusual, I know, but I never bothered. And there are folks on here who
have met me IRL and are even now no doubt rolling around hooting. :-D
No "Druidic" names, no "Celtic" names, no names but our own. No hiding
in closets, everything up front, everything honest and transparent,
everything accountable for, that's us.
Anonyimity is cowardly, this thing of a woman pretending to be a man
suggests a person who needs psychiatric help in a big way. Maybe
"Kevin" you should take time off to find out if you are a male
historian or a lady Knitwear Designer ?????????????
ROFL!! Oh my! You really are an ejit, and flailing around madly,
aren't you? You can't even work out from the style of writing whether
someone is male or female! You're unable to research, you don't even
know the questions to ask, and you just thrash from one illogical
conclusion to another.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Ah, you've just made me day! The Great Pretender accusing the one
person who is easily verifiably not pretending of pretence!
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
weeps from laughter!> Oh it just goes on getting better! :-D
Kevin
Of course Caroline is brainy and qualified and talented in every way,
and really pretty too, I should know, haven't I been engaged in
"combat" with her this past few weeks -
Now that I know who you are, "Kevin", have no fear, I do not intend to
expose you much further or to argue the toss with you, Love, get down
to that business of yours, it will be a huge success.
Love,
Mairtin.
(trying to keep the smile off my face).- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Oh boy, have you got a lot of egg on your face! :-)
Oh, and I'd not be calling Cal "Love" if she ever decides to get back
on here. Ooooooooooooooooooh no! She'd be feeding you your own
testicles!
Something about the men in our family - we have a weakness for strong
women. :-)
Kevin
Of course, the lady Caroline is strong, like her alter ego, "Kevin
Jones"
Mairtin
(Sniggering now)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You know, as my mother would say, once you've got an idea in your
head, hammer and chisel wouldn't shift it. The faintest idea that you
have, once again, made an arse out of yourself, doesn't even occur to
you. You reckon any belief that you hold is absolute, no matter if the
entire world tells you - or even shows you - that you are wrong. You
figure you're right on any issue that you hold a belief on, and get
baffled and upset if folks challenge you. After all, they must be
wrong, mustn't they?
Oh well, your funeral.
Kevin
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That's a man's way, an intelligent, highly educated, experienced no-
nonsense Irishman - I knew I was up against a woman in you all along,
mo, mot the style of writing, but your woman's mind. I have known
womens' minds all my life - and I love you all. Cheers, Mairtin. |
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Kevin
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:07 pm Post subject: Re: Hey Kevin ! |
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On 25 Sep, 18:43, Mairtin O'Druachain <DruidE...@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Sep 25, 5:04 pm, Kevin <laighl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On 25 Sep, 16:50, Mairtin O'Druachain <DruidE...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 25, 4:45 pm, Kevin <laighl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On 25 Sep, 16:40, Mairtin O'Druachain <DruidE...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 25, 4:16 pm, Kevin <laighl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On 25 Sep, 15:31, Mairtin O'Druachain <DruidE...@gmail.com> wrote:
Again, Knitwear Fashion Lady Kevin
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
So you found my girlfriend's place. Whoopee! You didn't read
it very well though. And don't bother thinking that she just does
knitwear design so she can't have a brain - the lass has an MSc, has
done cutting edge research in biology, has more grasp of history than
you ever will, and is competent - even extraordinarily talented - in a
number of other areas. It would be a very foolish person who
underestimated that lass, as Dan is aware.
All I can say is that your on-line research is as good as your
historical research, otherwise you'd know what I looked like and the
twon in which I live. It took me all of 30 seconds. You sir, are a
rank incompetent when it comes to research. However, we already knew
that, and didn't need you to embarass yourself further by proving
it. I am however grateful that you did so. <bows deeply with
an ironical air
Now why don't you come on out of the closet, out of your anonymity
where you pretend to be an academic historian possessing
qualifications, and tell us all about it, then we may believe the more
splendid of your ideas.
You know - the one thing I've never been on Usenet is anonymous.
Unusual, I know, but I never bothered. And there are folks on here who
have met me IRL and are even now no doubt rolling around hooting. :-D
No "Druidic" names, no "Celtic" names, no names but our own. No hiding
in closets, everything up front, everything honest and transparent,
everything accountable for, that's us.
Anonyimity is cowardly, this thing of a woman pretending to be a man
suggests a person who needs psychiatric help in a big way. Maybe
"Kevin" you should take time off to find out if you are a male
historian or a lady Knitwear Designer ?????????????
ROFL!! Oh my! You really are an ejit, and flailing around madly,
aren't you? You can't even work out from the style of writing whether
someone is male or female! You're unable to research, you don't even
know the questions to ask, and you just thrash from one illogical
conclusion to another.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Ah, you've just made me day! The Great Pretender accusing the one
person who is easily verifiably not pretending of pretence!
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
weeps from laughter!> Oh it just goes on getting better! :-D
Kevin
Of course Caroline is brainy and qualified and talented in every way,
and really pretty too, I should know, haven't I been engaged in
"combat" with her this past few weeks -
Now that I know who you are, "Kevin", have no fear, I do not intend to
expose you much further or to argue the toss with you, Love, get down
to that business of yours, it will be a huge success.
Love,
Mairtin.
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Oh boy, have you got a lot of egg on your face! :-)
Oh, and I'd not be calling Cal "Love" if she ever decides to get back
on here. Ooooooooooooooooooh no! She'd be feeding you your own
testicles!
Something about the men in our family - we have a weakness for strong
women. :-)
Kevin
Of course, the lady Caroline is strong, like her alter ego, "Kevin
Jones"
Mairtin
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You know, as my mother would say, once you've got an idea in your
head, hammer and chisel wouldn't shift it. The faintest idea that you
have, once again, made an arse out of yourself, doesn't even occur to
you. You reckon any belief that you hold is absolute, no matter if the
entire world tells you - or even shows you - that you are wrong. You
figure you're right on any issue that you hold a belief on, and get
baffled and upset if folks challenge you. After all, they must be
wrong, mustn't they?
Oh well, your funeral.
Kevin
That's a man's way, an intelligent, highly educated, experienced no-
nonsense Irishman
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No, that's a poor excuse for a man - someone who gets a bee in his
bonnet, doesn't bother to find out whether he's right or wrong,
charges off on the assumption that he's right, and makes an utter cock
off things, and then proceeds to defend those cockups as right, even
in the teeth of evidence saying that he's ballsed up, and who would
rather everything be destroyed round him than utter a simple sentence
- "Sorry - I cocked up!". That's a fella who might as well not have a
brain in his body for all the use that he makes of it, and a fella
upon whom an education is wasted, because he'll still go off half-
cocked as if he'd never learnt a thing. It's a fella who will never
learn from experience, whatever happens, and who will never think to
look at what he may be doing wrong when he winds up, yet again, flat
on his back face downwards. The thought that he might have some
culpability, some bit of responsibility, for this complete and utter
cock he's made of things, will never cross his mind. Instead, he'll
pick himself up, remark "That's a man's way!", then trip over his
shoelaces and fall flat on his face once more.
That isn't a man's way, otherwise we'd still be up the bloody trees.
That's a child's way - I've known six year olds who are more mature!
That's an excuse, and the most pitiful excuse for abject bleeding
ignorance and stupidity that I have ever heard. And if you're proud of
being like that, and if you think that a bit of forethought is somehow
'unmanly', then god help you, because you're a bigger clown than I
thought that you were, and you're going nowhere fast except into more
and more cockups.
Kevin |
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Mairtin O'Druachain
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:17 pm Post subject: Re: Hey Kevin ! |
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On Sep 25, 7:07 pm, Kevin <laighl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | On 25 Sep, 18:43, Mairtin O'Druachain <DruidE...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 25, 5:04 pm, Kevin <laighl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On 25 Sep, 16:50, Mairtin O'Druachain <DruidE...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 25, 4:45 pm, Kevin <laighl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On 25 Sep, 16:40, Mairtin O'Druachain <DruidE...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 25, 4:16 pm, Kevin <laighl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
On 25 Sep, 15:31, Mairtin O'Druachain <DruidE...@gmail.com> wrote:
Again, Knitwear Fashion Lady Kevin
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
So you found my girlfriend's place. Whoopee! You didn't read
it very well though. And don't bother thinking that she just does
knitwear design so she can't have a brain - the lass has an MSc, has
done cutting edge research in biology, has more grasp of history than
you ever will, and is competent - even extraordinarily talented - in a
number of other areas. It would be a very foolish person who
underestimated that lass, as Dan is aware.
All I can say is that your on-line research is as good as your
historical research, otherwise you'd know what I looked like and the
twon in which I live. It took me all of 30 seconds. You sir, are a
rank incompetent when it comes to research. However, we already knew
that, and didn't need you to embarass yourself further by proving
it. I am however grateful that you did so. <bows deeply with
an ironical air
Now why don't you come on out of the closet, out of your anonymity
where you pretend to be an academic historian possessing
qualifications, and tell us all about it, then we may believe the more
splendid of your ideas.
You know - the one thing I've never been on Usenet is anonymous.
Unusual, I know, but I never bothered. And there are folks on here who
have met me IRL and are even now no doubt rolling around hooting. :-D
No "Druidic" names, no "Celtic" names, no names but our own. No hiding
in closets, everything up front, everything honest and transparent,
everything accountable for, that's us.
Anonyimity is cowardly, this thing of a woman pretending to be a man
suggests a person who needs psychiatric help in a big way. Maybe
"Kevin" you should take time off to find out if you are a male
historian or a lady Knitwear Designer ?????????????
ROFL!! Oh my! You really are an ejit, and flailing around madly,
aren't you? You can't even work out from the style of writing whether
someone is male or female! You're unable to research, you don't even
know the questions to ask, and you just thrash from one illogical
conclusion to another.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Ah, you've just made me day! The Great Pretender accusing the one
person who is easily verifiably not pretending of pretence!
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
weeps from laughter!> Oh it just goes on getting better! :-D
Kevin
Of course Caroline is brainy and qualified and talented in every way,
and really pretty too, I should know, haven't I been engaged in
"combat" with her this past few weeks -
Now that I know who you are, "Kevin", have no fear, I do not intend to
expose you much further or to argue the toss with you, Love, get down
to that business of yours, it will be a huge success.
Love,
Mairtin.
(trying to keep the smile off my face).- Hide quoted text -
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Oh boy, have you got a lot of egg on your face! :-)
Oh, and I'd not be calling Cal "Love" if she ever decides to get back
on here. Ooooooooooooooooooh no! She'd be feeding you your own
testicles!
Something about the men in our family - we have a weakness for strong
women. :-)
Kevin
Of course, the lady Caroline is strong, like her alter ego, "Kevin
Jones"
Mairtin
(Sniggering now)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You know, as my mother would say, once you've got an idea in your
head, hammer and chisel wouldn't shift it. The faintest idea that you
have, once again, made an arse out of yourself, doesn't even occur to
you. You reckon any belief that you hold is absolute, no matter if the
entire world tells you - or even shows you - that you are wrong. You
figure you're right on any issue that you hold a belief on, and get
baffled and upset if folks challenge you. After all, they must be
wrong, mustn't they?
Oh well, your funeral.
Kevin
That's a man's way, an intelligent, highly educated, experienced no-
nonsense Irishman
No, that's a poor excuse for a man - someone who gets a bee in his
bonnet, doesn't bother to find out whether he's right or wrong,
charges off on the assumption that he's right, and makes an utter cock
off things, and then proceeds to defend those cockups as right, even
in the teeth of evidence saying that he's ballsed up, and who would
rather everything be destroyed round him than utter a simple sentence
- "Sorry - I cocked up!". That's a fella who might as well not have a
brain in his body for all the use that he makes of it, and a fella
upon whom an education is wasted, because he'll still go off half-
cocked as if he'd never learnt a thing. It's a fella who will never
learn from experience, whatever happens, and who will never think to
look at what he may be doing wrong when he winds up, yet again, flat
on his back face downwards. The thought that he might have some
culpability, some bit of responsibility, for this complete and utter
cock he's made of things, will never cross his mind. Instead, he'll
pick himself up, remark "That's a man's way!", then trip over his
shoelaces and fall flat on his face once more.
That isn't a man's way, otherwise we'd still be up the bloody trees.
That's a child's way - I've known six year olds who are more mature!
That's an excuse, and the most pitiful excuse for abject bleeding
ignorance and stupidity that I have ever heard. And if you're proud of
being like that, and if you think that a bit of forethought is somehow
'unmanly', then god help you, because you're a bigger clown than I
thought that you were, and you're going nowhere fast except into more
and more cockups.
Kevin
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1X2Willows
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:09 am Post subject: Re: Hey Kevin ! |
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"Mairtin O'Druachain" <DruidEire@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 25, 9:22 am, "1X2Willows" <spambuc...@euro-celts.dot.com>
wrote:
| Quote: | "Mairtin O'Druachain" <DruidE...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1190707370.932863.304050@n39g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 25, 8:55 am, "1X2Willows" <spambuc...@euro-celts.dot.com
wrote:
"Mairtin O'Druachain" <DruidE...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1190706378.823629.244200@n39g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 25, 8:25 am, "1X2Willows" <spambuc...@euro-celts.dot.com
wrote:
"Mairtin O'Druachain" <DruidE...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1190704734.177453.177040@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 25, 8:09 am, "1X2Willows" <spambuc...@euro-celts.dot.com
wrote:
"Mairtin O'Druachain" <DruidE...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1190703250.426593.227260@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 25, 7:45 am, "1X2Willows" <spambuc...@euro-celts.dot.com
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The Celts on the Continent had gods.
Before Alesia and in the heart land?
Positive proof, please.
References
- and don't think "Scholar A said Professor B proved that
historian
C
was correct in referencing Dr. D in his assumption they had
gods"
will do it.
Positive proof, please.
Good luck with that.
Dan
Spirituality does not require the proof or approval of this
world.
The
Spirit converges, synchronises and the Spirit knows and
communicates
regardless of Space and Time, which mean nothing in the Spirit
World.
To People with the spirit of a mongrel fox like Dan, this would
mean
nothing.
Anyway, History is not an empirical science, there are no
formulae
,
and therefore no absolute "positive" proofs.
But Dan, having no professional education, would not know this.
Ignore him totally like the cretin he is - if you want to know.
Given under Guidance,
Mairtin.
Mongrel Fox!
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