old man joe
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 Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:02 am Post subject: I ask on their behalf; I do not ask on behalf of the world.. |
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"I ask on their behalf; I do not ask on behalf of the world, but of
those whom Thou hast given Me; for they are Thine.. " Jn. 17:9
while the Universalist offers a gospel of filling conditions in
order to indebt God to save, the Bible does not. the Word of God
plainly declares Christ died for the elect alone... the Universalist
presents a Savior who failed at Calvary whereas Jesus Himself makes it
clear that He succeeded to procure salvation for one specific group...
and that group is ' men out of every tribe and nation but not all
tribes and nations as a whole... as He says... " I ask of their
behalf; I do not ask on behalf of the world. "
in the scheme of Universal atonement there is no such thing as
eternal damnation since Christ paid the penalty for what men go to
hell for. if the cause of righteous wrath is removed... the penalty
for sin... then wrath is turned away. but the Bible teaches a day of
Judgement is coming.
there is no day of Judgement in the idea of Universal atonement.
they are either calling God a liar or calling Jesus Christ a failure.
here in Jn. 17:9 it's plain to see that Jesus makes a distinction
between the 2 groups comprising all the peoples who ever lived...
those in Christ and those in Adam. this verse is quite reminiscent of
Jn. 6:63-65... the world devoid of the Spirit of God, namely,
unbelievers; and the world appointed to eternal life... given to Jesus
by God the Father. Acts 13:48
only those appointed to eternal life will ever be drawn to Him since
the unbeliever finds the things of God ridiculous. 1 Cor. 1:18
it's tantamount to blasphemy to preach Christ died for everyone when
Christ Himself says " I do not ask on behalf of the world. " Jn. 17:9
and " in Adam all die, so also in Christ all shall be made alive. "
1 Cor. 15:22
Christ died for the elect alone... " I ask on their behalf; I do not
ask on behalf of the world"... no failure at Calvary as the
Universalist Fundamentalists like to preach. |
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