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I don't trust Arafat or Sharon, but I believe Arafat when he
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Caiaphas
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 1:04 am    Post subject: I don't trust Arafat or Sharon, but I believe Arafat when he Reply with quote

Even though I hate to admit that I trust either Arafat or Sharon, I believe
Arafat when he said:

"The problem, the real danger, is the intent of the Israeli government to cancel
the Palestinian partner and to eliminate the presence of the Palestinian
Authority."


http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2003-09-13-palestinian-kids_x.htm


And Yes, I do believe Israel is not helpful to the Peace Process. Israeli
arrogance, humiliation of, and brutality toward Palestinian peoples shows Israel
is undermining the Peace Process.
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TheAnswer
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:58 am    Post subject: Re: I don't trust Arafat or Sharon, but I believe Arafat whe Reply with quote

On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 16:04:31 -0400, "Caiaphas"
<Caiaphas66@hotmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
Even though I hate to admit that I trust either Arafat or Sharon, I believe
Arafat when he said:

"The problem, the real danger, is the intent of the Israeli government to cancel
the Palestinian partner and to eliminate the presence of the Palestinian
Authority."


http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2003-09-13-palestinian-kids_x.htm


And Yes, I do believe Israel is not helpful to the Peace Process. Israeli
arrogance, humiliation of, and brutality toward Palestinian peoples shows Israel
is undermining the Peace Process.

And Hamas, slaughtering innocents and defiling Allah and His Prophet
(pbuh) is just tending to the flowers, right?
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TheAnswer
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 7:18 am    Post subject: Re: I don't trust Arafat or Sharon, but I believe Arafat whe Reply with quote

On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 17:19:07 -0400, "Pastor Frank"
<pfrank@christfirst.com> wrote:

Quote:
"TheAnswer" <TheAnswer@upyours.com> wrote in message
news:i8f7mvgk6f1807hjeh7qitbbt753j606k2@4ax.com...
On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 16:04:31 -0400, "Caiaphas"
Caiaphas66@hotmail.com> wrote:

Even though I hate to admit that I trust either Arafat or Sharon, I
believe
Arafat when he said:
"The problem, the real danger, is the intent of the Israeli government to
cancel
the Palestinian partner and to eliminate the presence of the Palestinian
Authority."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2003-09-13-palestinian-kids_x.htm
And Yes, I do believe Israel is not helpful to the Peace Process.
Israeli
arrogance, humiliation of, and brutality toward Palestinian peoples shows
Israel
is undermining the Peace Process.

And Hamas, slaughtering innocents and defiling Allah and His Prophet
(pbuh) is just tending to the flowers, right?

Perhaps you prefer madmen running around killing everyone to steal their
property, because they imagine hearing voices from their god YHWH,
commanding them to leave no one alive, except perhaps little girls to
satisfy the lusts of the murderers? See below


Actually, I prefer peace and truth, two subjects that seem foreign to
you.
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Pastor Frank
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: I don't trust Arafat or Sharon, but I believe Arafat whe Reply with quote

"TheAnswer" <TheAnswer@upyours.com> wrote in message
news:fa8amv83prbudp0kb331mbank1l3394ivn@4ax.com...
Quote:
On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 17:19:07 -0400, "Pastor Frank"
pfrank@christfirst.com> wrote:

Perhaps you prefer madmen running around killing everyone to steal
their
property, because they imagine hearing voices from their god YHWH,
commanding them to leave no one alive, except perhaps little girls to
satisfy the lusts of the murderers? See below

Actually, I prefer peace and truth, two subjects that seem foreign to
you.

Are you an apostate, that you call quotes from the Bible "lies"? See

below
--
Pastor Frank

CAUSE (Holocaust of the entire native population of "the promised land")
Moses in Numbers 31:17-18 Now therefore kill every male among the
little ones, and kill every woman, that hath known man by lying with him.
But all the female children, that have not known man by lying with him,
keep alive for yourself.

PROPHETIC APOCALYPSE, (The nuclear consequence)
2Pt:3:10: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in
the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements
shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein
shall be burned up.
2Pt:3:12: Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God,
wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall
melt with fervent heat?
Lk:21:21: Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and
let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are
in the countries enter thereinto.
Rv:16:9: And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name
of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give
him glory.



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TheAnswer
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 8:47 pm    Post subject: Re: I don't trust Arafat or Sharon, but I believe Arafat whe Reply with quote

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 04:35:27 -0400, "Pastor Frank"
<pfrank@christfirst.com> wrote:

Quote:
"TheAnswer" <TheAnswer@upyours.com> wrote in message
news:fa8amv83prbudp0kb331mbank1l3394ivn@4ax.com...
On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 17:19:07 -0400, "Pastor Frank"
pfrank@christfirst.com> wrote:

Perhaps you prefer madmen running around killing everyone to steal
their
property, because they imagine hearing voices from their god YHWH,
commanding them to leave no one alive, except perhaps little girls to
satisfy the lusts of the murderers? See below

Actually, I prefer peace and truth, two subjects that seem foreign to
you.

Are you an apostate, that you call quotes from the Bible "lies"? See
below

No, I am a realist who calls YOU a liar. I am also sure that
distinction is lost on a moron of your depth.
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Adam Helberg
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 11:06 pm    Post subject: Re: I don't trust Arafat or Sharon, but I believe Arafat whe Reply with quote

"Pastor Frank" <pfrank@christfirst.com> wrote in message
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"Adam Helberg" <helbergaNieSpam@earthBlink.net> wrote in message
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"Caiaphas" <Caiaphas66@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Even though I hate to admit that I trust either Arafat or Sharon, I
believe
Arafat when he said:

"The problem, the real danger, is the intent of the Israeli government
to cancel
the Palestinian partner and to eliminate the presence of the Palestinian
Authority."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2003-09-13-palestinian-kids_x.htm
And Yes, I do believe Israel is not helpful to the Peace Process.
Israeli
arrogance, humiliation of, and brutality toward Palestinian peoples
shows Israel
is undermining the Peace Process.

I believe Hamas, when they say they want an Islamic Palestine from the
river to the sea, with
no room for Israel.
Adam

I believe Israel, when their leaders say, they want to expel all natives
and want an Israel from the "river to the sea" devoid of natives.
Read revelations about what is about to happen as the primitive
explosive devices of the suicide bombers evolve eventually to nukes.
If we want to save the world, we need an international court NOW, where
those believing themselves dispossessed without compensation can get
redress, without having to blow themselves, and us, up to draw scant
attention to their grievances.
--
Pastor Frank

CAUSE (Holocaust of the entire native population of "the promised land")
Moses in Numbers 31:17-18 Now therefore kill every male among the
little ones, and kill every woman, that hath known man by lying with him.
But all the female children, that have not known man by lying with him,
keep alive for yourself.

PROPHETIC APOCALYPSE, (The nuclear consequence)
2Pt:3:10: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in
the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements
shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein
shall be burned up.
2Pt:3:12: Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God,
wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall
melt with fervent heat?
Lk:21:21: Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and
let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are
in the countries enter thereinto.
Rv:16:9: And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name
of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give
him glory.



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Israeli leaders have always accepted partition. Unfortunately its all or nothing for the
Palestinians, who by the way are not native at all.

Adam
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Pastor Frank
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 7:23 pm    Post subject: Re: I don't trust Arafat or Sharon, but I believe Arafat whe Reply with quote

"TheAnswer" <TheAnswer@upyours.com> wrote in message
news:6onbmvgs5o5m14l0d819hbn1f78o0533am@4ax.com...
Quote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 04:35:27 -0400, "Pastor Frank"
pfrank@christfirst.com> wrote:
"TheAnswer" <TheAnswer@upyours.com> wrote in message
news:fa8amv83prbudp0kb331mbank1l3394ivn@4ax.com...
On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 17:19:07 -0400, "Pastor Frank"
pfrank@christfirst.com> wrote:

Perhaps you prefer madmen running around killing everyone to steal
their
property, because they imagine hearing voices from their god YHWH,
commanding them to leave no one alive, except perhaps little girls to
satisfy the lusts of the murderers? See below

Actually, I prefer peace and truth, two subjects that seem foreign to
you.

Are you an apostate, that you call quotes from the Bible "lies"? See
below

No, I am a realist who calls YOU a liar. I am also sure that
distinction is lost on a moron of your depth.

The Jews hated Jesus too, and apparently still hate Him, whom we

worship, so I am in good company. See below
--
Pastor Frank

**Gal 4:16 "Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth?"
**Jesus in Jn:15:18: If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before
it hated you.
**Jesus in Lk:6:26: Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for
so did their fathers to the false prophets
**Jesus in Jn:15:25: But this cometh to pass, that the word might be
fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause.
**Jesus in Matt 5:11, 12: Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and
persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my
sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: For great is your reward in heaven:
for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
**Jesus in Lk:23:34: Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know
not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 7:32 pm    Post subject: Re: I don't trust Arafat or Sharon, but I believe Arafat whe Reply with quote

"Adam Helberg" <helbergaNieSpam@earthBlink.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
"Pastor Frank" <pfrank@christfirst.com> wrote in message
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"Adam Helberg" <helbergaNieSpam@earthBlink.net> wrote in message
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"Caiaphas" <Caiaphas66@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:sLK8b.332$wS2.12798@eagle.america.net...

Even though I hate to admit that I trust either Arafat or Sharon, I
believe
Arafat when he said:

"The problem, the real danger, is the intent of the Israeli
government
to cancel
the Palestinian partner and to eliminate the presence of the
Palestinian
Authority."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2003-09-13-palestinian-kids_x.htm
And Yes, I do believe Israel is not helpful to the Peace Process.
Israeli
arrogance, humiliation of, and brutality toward Palestinian peoples
shows Israel
is undermining the Peace Process.

I believe Hamas, when they say they want an Islamic Palestine from the
river to the sea, with
no room for Israel.
Adam

I believe Israel, when their leaders say, they want to expel all
natives
and want an Israel from the "river to the sea" devoid of natives.
Read revelations about what is about to happen as the primitive
explosive devices of the suicide bombers evolve eventually to nukes.
If we want to save the world, we need an international court NOW,
where
those believing themselves dispossessed without compensation can get
redress, without having to blow themselves, and us, up to draw scant
attention to their grievances.
--
Pastor Frank

CAUSE (Holocaust of the entire native population of "the promised land")
Moses in Numbers 31:17-18 Now therefore kill every male among the
little ones, and kill every woman, that hath known man by lying with
him.
But all the female children, that have not known man by lying with him,
keep alive for yourself.

PROPHETIC APOCALYPSE, (The nuclear consequence)
2Pt:3:10: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the
night; in
the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the
elements
shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are
therein
shall be burned up.
2Pt:3:12: Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God,
wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements
shall
melt with fervent heat?
Lk:21:21: Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains;
and
let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that
are
in the countries enter thereinto.
Rv:16:9: And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the
name
of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to
give
him glory.

Israeli leaders have always accepted partition. Unfortunately its all or
nothing for the
Palestinians, who by the way are not native at all.
Adam

Partition is not the issue, the refugee's right to return is the issue,

for which there are innumerable United Nations resolutions, laws and rules,
all of which Israel ignored. As the bombs of the suicide bombers evolve into
nukes, this conflict heralds the imminent end of the world. See below
--
Pastor Frank

CAUSE (Holocaust of the entire native population of "the promised land")
Moses in Numbers 31:17-18 Now therefore kill every male among the
little ones, and kill every woman, that hath known man by lying with him.
But all the female children, that have not known man by lying with him,
keep alive for yourself.

PROPHETIC APOCALYPSE, (The nuclear consequence)
2Pt:3:10: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in
the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements
shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein
shall be burned up.
2Pt:3:12: Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God,
wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall
melt with fervent heat?
Lk:21:21: Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and
let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are
in the countries enter thereinto.
Rv:16:9: And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name
of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give
him glory.



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 9:09 pm    Post subject: Re: I don't trust Arafat or Sharon, but I believe Arafat whe Reply with quote

if someone were to come and say "i am the son of god" what would your reaction be?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 1:17 pm    Post subject: Re: I don't trust Arafat or Sharon, but I believe Arafat whe Reply with quote

<you@you.you> wrote in message news:PMkab.27$tI2.15@vietwist00.chello.at...
Quote:

if someone were to come and say "i am the son of god" what would your
reaction be?

I might call him a nut. Aren't we glad Jesus never said "I am the son of

God", he only intimated that by citing the scripture below.
--
Pastor Frank

Jn:10:34: Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are
gods? I.e. (Psa 82:6 NIV) I said: "You are gods"; you are all sons of the
Most High.



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