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 Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 6:21 am Post subject: I Reveal Jesus |
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My reply in an http forum:
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"... that Salvation is received first, by Grace, and then our actions follow..."
I see it is by Grace most christians are kept in belief of Jesus, yet it is by
belief that such Grace begins.
I remember a 'born-again' experience of some many years ago, and when I looked
back at it I thought I was helped because I joined to serve God's law, but
that's not why. It was because I believed in God, yet the actual meaning I was
using for God was Jesus. As it happened , a couple of weeks later, when speaking
with a friend, I respected their 'God' and the state I had been given by belief
in Jesus ended. That state was Grace and Grace is tranquility, and it begins by
belief in Jesus.
It is belief and Grace that are the roots of what I see is so evil in christian
faith, for the demand is for belief for to obtain Grace for only by that is ones
salvation attainable. Belief becomes the need and belief always rests upon the
messages in the new testament, most firstly those in the Gospels. This is the
critical factor, and so when I, or anyone, attempt to argue the meanings of the
statements in the Gospels, believers are utterly determined to sustain their
Grace sothen their salvation sothen their beliefs and NOT to serve the truth.
The assertion the Bible is perfectly true is false, and I can prove that, but
christians measure ALL things by their state of Grace/tranquility and everything
which reduces or endangers that is immediately denied, opposed, or discounted.
Reduced belief means reduced Grace and that is what forces christians to insist
their Bible is perfectly true. Christians are driven by Grace to deny, ignore
and oppose visible facts and meanings, or otherwise said, christians are forced
to believe soto continue in that state of rational and emotional tranquility,
and the tyranny of belief overrules their will and devotion to the truth and
truths meanings.
This fact is why I've had no success with members in this forum. The evils of
the followship against all womankind and wifery derive from the christians
utterly selfish drive to sustain their own emotional tranquility and FORCE the
law in the Gospels against her, and the crimes of the churches likewise.
The long, long history of the christian opposing and oppressing and
denying truth and meaning is the greatest evil which pervades the entire
christian membership. ALL the facts I've posted here concerning the real
meanings of the statements by Jesus in the Gospels have gone in waiste upon
enslaved Hearts and their closed minds.
I have tried to believe, but the facts of the law and cross of Jesus are evil
and I have never accepted them and will never believe in those.
The law of christ is not a true law, for it is removing our right to live
our own earthly life and forcing us to sacrifice that soto love and serve only
others. Christ's law is an enslavement of all whom take most sincerely his law
and a condemning of all selfishness and life on earth, but is the nature of the
evil of that mind-blinding spell which Grace is that christians will not see nor
serve the laws which the Gospels hold, but WILL apply those against others and
judge and force their lives.
When Christ's will is we seek the Heaven of God and we enter into Heaven only
when we depart this earthly, bodily life (die), that will to seek heaven acts to
end our earthly life.
When all acts of harm against us also act to end our earthly living, ALL those
harms also serve the will to end this earthly life and that will of Christ!
Moral right/good serves the continuance of life and MUST serve our continuance
on earth, or otherwise we are driven into death and all manner and type of harm
satisfies that end to material living (death).
To do so we MUST have the sanctified rights to the means to continue on the
earth, and that means the right to place and serve first oneself, to have and
value and defend ones body, to have, gather and defend ones possessions, etc.
The evils of the christian accepting only the messages for belief and refusing
those for law and sacrifice is only by their utter selfishness, AND ALL FOR
THEIR TRANQUILITY FROM OBSSESSIVE, CLOSED-MINDED, DISHONEST BELIEF AND WORSHIP
ARE THE 2000 YEARS OF CHRIST'S EVILS AGAINST HUMANKIND ON EARTH.
I am like a lion, and my time has come, and I roar and leap against that devil
soto reveal it unto ALL humankind on earth.
You're welcome to read a 32 page essay I've written titled
"Creation, Human Society, and Suffering" at www.mts.net/~chs2003
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Pastor Frank
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| Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 8:06 pm Post subject: Re: I Reveal Jesus |
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<Istrue@na.na> wrote in message news:3f77885b.12240774@news.alt.net...
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The evils of the christian accepting only the messages for belief and
refusing
those for law and sacrifice is only by their utter selfishness, AND ALL
FOR
THEIR TRANQUILITY FROM OBSSESSIVE, CLOSED-MINDED, DISHONEST BELIEF AND
WORSHIP
ARE THE 2000 YEARS OF CHRIST'S EVILS AGAINST HUMANKIND ON EARTH.
No problem. You have the choice to believe in God and his love and grace |
or Satan and his cynicism, distrust, fear and paranoia. The key to happiness
and joy is repenting in belief and faith of Jesus Christ, our God incarnate.
Self-justification is the road to hell.
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Pastor Frank
Jesus in John 14:7: If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also:
and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
8: Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9: Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast
thou not known me, Philip? He that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and
how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
10: Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the
words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that
dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
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