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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:10 pm    Post subject: Islamic Democrats Reply with quote

Islamic Democrats

by Charley Reese

Somebody ought to tell President George Bush something he obviously
doesn't know. He keeps talking about wanting democracy in the Middle
East and reform in general as an antidote to extremism.

What apparently his staff members have not told him, probably because
they themselves don't know, is that most of the reformers in the
Middle East in recent years have been Islamists, and sometimes the
Islamic fundamentalists. It is they who have provided social services
the government neglected to provide. It is they who have often
demanded democratic elections and honest government.

In Algeria, for example, an Islamist party was on the verge of
sweeping the board in a free election. The Algerian army stepped in
and stopped the election. Unfortunately, the United States backed the
army rather than democracy and the Islamists. A bloody civil war was
the result.

In Afghanistan, the Taliban came to power as reformers, driving out
the warlords, who were corrupt and brutal. We, of course, have brought
the warlords back to power, and Afghanistan is now once again one of
the world's greatest sources for opium.

Islam is an interesting and lovely religion, as highly moral and
peaceful as Christianity or any other. Americans should read some
books about it, rather than listening to ignorant demagogues or people
with a secret agenda. The Oxford History of Islam is a good place to
start.

Of course, Bush is preaching democracy because that's the platitude
generated by the neoconservative, pro-Israeli ideologues who have
dominated his administration. It's an excuse to avoid facing the
truth, which is that our problem in the Middle East is our one-sided
support for the terrible mistreatment of the Palestinians by the
Israelis. That's it. It's not the conditions in the Arab world. It's
not the Islamic fundamentalists. It's our own policy, stupid.

How can we legitimately put pressure on Iran about its nuclear program
while we remain dead silent about the nuclear arsenal Israel has
already built? All of the Arab countries and Iran have repeatedly
called for a nuclear-free Middle East, but we won't back it, because
we won't confront Israel about its weapons of mass destruction.

How can we talk about obeying United Nations resolutions when Israel
is in defiance of more than 60 of them? How can we talk about the rule
of law when Israel's occupation and illegal settlements are a
violation of international law? How can we talk about respect for
human rights while staying silent about the abuses of Palestinian
human rights?

It would serve George Bush right if there really were free elections
in the Middle East. After that, we wouldn't have one single friend in
the region – for our only friends are these very authoritarian and
undemocratic rulers he seems to stupidly want to depose.

As for Wahhabis in Saudi Arabia whom some people are trying to blame
for terrorism, that's pure bunk. The Wahhabi movement was founded by
Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhabi, who lived in the 1700s. It is to Islam
what the Puritans were to Christianity. Wahhabis believe in literalism
(as do Southern Baptists), strict observance of Muslim rituals and the
condemnation of the cult of the saints.

It has always been the religion of Saudi Arabia, and we have had good
relations with that country since World War II, based on its oil and
our greed for it. In all those decades, the Wahhabis never gave us any
trouble. Why should they now? I submit to you they haven't. Don't
confuse Islamic fundamentalism with terrorism, as the pro-Israel crowd
wants you to do. And don't commit the racist fallacy of concluding
that a particular few terrorists represent the whole of Muslims.

http://www.antiwar.com/reese/?articleid=2930
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:12 am    Post subject: Re: cancel Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:14 am    Post subject: The shitskin moslems condone bestiality - we'll it was an ob Reply with quote

The shitskin moslems condone bestiality - we'll it was an obvious move
considering that their false prophet mohammad was a goat fucker -
mohammad had his own harem of goats and camels, that in addition to him
sexually molesting young children
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