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On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:42:45 -0700 (PDT), Codebreaker
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Jul 21, 9:37 pm, Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:33:46 -0700 (PDT), Codebreaker
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On Jul 21, 7:42 pm, Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:43:21 -0700 (PDT), Tohu.B...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Jul 21, 6:38 pm, Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:27:18 -0700 (PDT), Codebreaker
Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote:
On Jul 21, 6:04 pm, Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:51:35 -0700 (PDT), "Codebrea...@bigsecret.com"
Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote:
He should have
said, Catholic Trinitarian doctrines is ofensive
to Muslims.
So what?
Catholicism does not make up the whole CHRISTIANITY
not even according to HISTORY.
Acts 15 shows that not all christians were Paulines.
And Catholcism is derived from Paul's theology.
YOU ARE AT A LOSS. LOL
Who gives a flying fuck about Acts, imbecile?
YOU ARE A PIG-IGNORANT IMBECILE WHO IS INCAPABLE OF THINKING OUTSIDE
HIS RELIGION, AS WELL AS A THOROUGHLY NASTY ABOUT THOSE OUTSIDE IT.- Hide quoted text -
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Again, this is nolonger about religion or faith
but about intellectual inquiry...
It is not my fault If you have no way to know
WHY DO YOU IN-YOUR-FACE MORONS RUDELY AND STUPIDLY POST YOUR MASSIVE
STUPIDITY WHERE IS IS IRRELEVANT, NYM-SHIFTING ASSHOLE?- Hide quoted text -
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It is relevant everywhere unless you are not living
in the real world. Stupid ass
I see. You arrogantly decide that the bullshit you wipe in people's
faces, is relevant to them, imbecile?
All because you are incapable of grasping where your religion stops
and the world beyond it starts.- Hide quoted text -
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My faith embrace it all. It goes beyond
where heaven and earth meeet.
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Your "faith" only applies at most to members of your denomination,
moron.
This is the real world beyond it.
| Quote: | IT IS NOT LIKE EVOLUTION WHICH HAS NO CHRIST
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What a fucking moron. |
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Free Lunch
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:59 am Post subject: Re: And The Archbishop of Canterbury Is Wrong |
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On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:42:45 -0700 (PDT), Codebreaker
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
| Quote: | On Jul 21, 9:37 pm, Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:33:46 -0700 (PDT), Codebreaker
Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote:
On Jul 21, 7:42 pm, Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:43:21 -0700 (PDT), Tohu.B...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Jul 21, 6:38 pm, Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:27:18 -0700 (PDT), Codebreaker
Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote:
On Jul 21, 6:04 pm, Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:51:35 -0700 (PDT), "Codebrea...@bigsecret.com"
Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote:
He should have
said, Catholic Trinitarian doctrines is ofensive
to Muslims.
So what?
Catholicism does not make up the whole CHRISTIANITY
not even according to HISTORY.
Acts 15 shows that not all christians were Paulines.
And Catholcism is derived from Paul's theology.
YOU ARE AT A LOSS. LOL
Who gives a flying fuck about Acts, imbecile?
YOU ARE A PIG-IGNORANT IMBECILE WHO IS INCAPABLE OF THINKING OUTSIDE
HIS RELIGION, AS WELL AS A THOROUGHLY NASTY ABOUT THOSE OUTSIDE IT.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Again, this is nolonger about religion or faith
but about intellectual inquiry...
It is not my fault If you have no way to know
WHY DO YOU IN-YOUR-FACE MORONS RUDELY AND STUPIDLY POST YOUR MASSIVE
STUPIDITY WHERE IS IS IRRELEVANT, NYM-SHIFTING ASSHOLE?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
It is relevant everywhere unless you are not living
in the real world. Stupid ass
I see. You arrogantly decide that the bullshit you wipe in people's
faces, is relevant to them, imbecile?
All because you are incapable of grasping where your religion stops
and the world beyond it starts.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
My faith embrace it all. It goes beyond
where heaven and earth meeet.
IT IS NOT LIKE EVOLUTION WHICH HAS NO CHRIST
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Your faith is foolishness verging on insanity. No rational person
rejects reality. If you want to believe something about God that isn't
known to be false, fine, but when you tell us lies and that your belief
is true despite the fact that your doctrines are known to be false, you
are telling us that you are insane, not merely that you believe. |
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Stan-O
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On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:41:26 -0400, "bam" <mcca5blah@bellsouth.net>
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| Quote: | actually moron, you get both every time you ejaculate... so... wtf IS your
point?... besides demonstrating you're one clued out dumbfuck, that is...
Right. This is the impeccable logic of the atheist. Since only one sperm
usually makes it into the egg, why not kill babies? Is that your message,
Moron?
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Benny the Dope has said that anything that has the capability to form
life, is a life. Benny and his gang of thugs in the Vatican came up
with this idea before any atheist did. How's that for impeccable
logic? |
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BOB
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:21 am Post subject: Re: Message to pro-lifers |
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Stan-O <bndsna807@aol.com> wrote in
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| Quote: | On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:41:26 -0400, "bam" <mcca5blah@bellsouth.net
wrote:
actually moron, you get both every time you ejaculate... so... wtf
IS your point?... besides demonstrating you're one clued out
dumbfuck, that is...
Right. This is the impeccable logic of the atheist. Since only one
sperm usually makes it into the egg, why not kill babies? Is that your
message, Moron?
Benny the Dope has said that anything that has the capability to form
life, is a life. Benny and his gang of thugs in the Vatican came up
with this idea before any atheist did. How's that for impeccable
logic?
If "Benny and his gang of thugs" had their way, they would eliminate all XX |
chromosomes and promote only XY chromosomes for their future pool of sheep. |
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klunk
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:37 am Post subject: Re: Message to pro-lifers |
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"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns9AE2C4E292E7FSD@69.16.185.247...
| Quote: | Stan-O <bndsna807@aol.com> wrote in
news:93ga84h0qjcjmtgsicc09129l1ve783nnh@4ax.com:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:41:26 -0400, "bam" <mcca5blah@bellsouth.net
wrote:
actually moron, you get both every time you ejaculate... so... wtf
IS your point?... besides demonstrating you're one clued out
dumbfuck, that is...
Right. This is the impeccable logic of the atheist. Since only one
sperm usually makes it into the egg, why not kill babies? Is that your
message, Moron?
Benny the Dope has said that anything that has the capability to form
life, is a life. Benny and his gang of thugs in the Vatican came up
with this idea before any atheist did. How's that for impeccable
logic?
If "Benny and his gang of thugs" had their way, they would eliminate all
XX
chromosomes and promote only XY chromosomes for their future pool of
sheep.
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(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:48 am Post subject: Re: Thinking about having an abortion? |
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On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:09:28 -0400,
Jon Young/IBen Getiner <Jvisions@live.com> PARROTED more
Bigoted and Ignorant TRIPE from the RRR Cult --
<Flushed. No loss!>
So... Thinking about having an abortion?
If so, considerthese FACTS, that America's Taliban. the
loathsome RRR Cult, DOESN'T want you to know. ---
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
ANALYZING ABORTION-ON-REQUEST* in the USA
*(Abortion Rights as they have existed since 1-22-73)
Abortions obtained by girls and women terminate three of
the four of the reproductive-process entities (RPEs): zygotes,
embryoes & fetuses, up until the 7th month** of gestation)
which have ALL of these characteristics in common with the
first stage -- gametes (sperm and ova):
-- Human
-- Unique
-- As a stage of development, indispensable to future birth
-- Have NEVER experienced conscious awareness*
-- Alive
...which makes it hypocritical when abortion opponents
try to defend the later three stages of the reproductive
process but NOT the Stage One entities (gametes).
** (AFTER the 7th month of gestation begins, conscious
awareness may be possible, but all the other of the above-
listed attributes still apply. (But by then, the ONLY abortions
being performed are for medical emergencies.))
And the Bible, which is the primary moral authority for the
majority of Americans:
-- In NO way condemns abortion.
-- Doesn't even MENTION abortion.
-- By Jesus' day, abortion had been around for 1,000 yrs.
-- Contains NO defenses of RPEs as people.
-- Reserves ALL of its protection for already-BORN people
-- That it regards personhood to begin at BIRTH is
made clear by it's immense emphasis on the import-
ance it ascribes to BIRTH order, BIRTHrights. and
first-BORNS.
-- In certain cases, condemned BABIES to horrible deaths.
-- Never indicates that there is anything "special" about
fertilization.
-- Thus making gametes (the Stage One RPEs) *equal*
in worth to the other three stages.
-- More than a QUADRILLION gametes are electively
aborted DAILY, worldwide... by *men.* All of
which had been *potential* and unique people.
Abortion-on-request enables women to:
-- Put their lives back on track immediately.
-- Restore their well-being to pre-unplanned pregnancy levels.
-- Vast majority of women are happy with this decision.
-- Most women have NO regrets afterward.
-- Restore their full range of future opportunities to
PRE-ill-timed pregnancy levels. Immediately!
-- Avoid physical difficulties of a 9-month pregnancy.
-- Especially important for young girls, ~12-16.
-- Statistically 6-10 times safer than carrying-to-term.
-- Avoid the trauma of adopting-out, and wondering later.
-- Avoid possibility of changing mind about adopting-out,
and those losing the chance to pursue many of the
future opportunies that they formerly had had.
-- Reduce likelihood of long-term economic deprivation.
-- Avoid bringing a child into a less-loving home.
-- Avoid bringing child into unstable environment.
-- Wait until timing is better before having children.
-- Who then are MORE likely to be loved.
-- Who then are MORE likely to be in stable home.
-- And thus are LESS like to have troubled childhoods.
-- And therefore more likely NOT to become criminals.
-- And thus are MORE likely to become successful.
Legal abortion-on-request:
-- Is exponentially safer than illegal abortions.
-- Thus saving the lives of hundreds or thousands of women/yr.
-- Has been available throughout the USA since early 1973.
-- Between 1973 and 2000, 30 million women have had them.
-- Between 1973 and 2008, 45 million abortions have been done.
Other related facts include:
-- MOST women who have abortions go on to HAVE kids later,
when the timing is better .
-- Those children would NOT have been born if the abortions
had not taken place earlier, because the same sperm and
ova would not have matched up.
-- Those "2nd-round" kids STARTED reaching age 13 in
significant numbers by 1988. By the early 1990s, millions
of those "2nd-round" kids were in their mid-teens by the
early 1990s.
-- Mid-teens is the highest risk age for crime, and this
continues into the early 20s.
-- As pointed out above, wanted and loved children are
LESS prone to criminal behavior.
-- By 1995, millions of "2nd-round kids" were entering the
workforce. Perhaps a million-plus MORE have entered it
every year SINCE. By 2000, the oldest ones had reached
the age where they could be getting quite successful.
-- Since the early 1990s, the rate of violent crime in the USA
has declined dramatically, and by 2000 had reached 40-year
lows in many categories.
-- The decade of the 1990s, and the 21st century to date,
in the USA, has been the most economically-dynamic
period of time for any nation in the entire history of the
world, despite temporary fluctuations.
Although the exact figures may be impossible to derive, the
probability that abortion-on-request has SIGNIFICANTLY benefitted
all of America's society in terms of the crime rate and the economy
is QUITE strong, despite the temporary anomaly caused by the attack
on Sept. 11, 2001, and the current gas-prices crunch. And a strong
U.S. economy benefits the entire world.
-- Originally posted to alt.abortion
and talk.abortion on Aug. 13, 2000
and updated since.
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-- Craig Chilton
xanadu222@mchsi.com -- To E-Mail me.
http://www.roadrat.com -- Learn how to get PAID to TRAVEL.
http://apifar.blogspot.com -- Great TACTICS to Fight Bigotry.
http://pro-christian.blogspot.com -- Christianity *vs.* Bigotry. |
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DanielSan
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:06 am Post subject: Re: Message to pro-lifers |
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bam wrote:
| Quote: | "klunk" <klunk@theothershoo.org> wrote in message
news:CaTgk.18739$nD.6051@pd7urf1no...
"bam" <mcca5blah@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:YHSgk.4665$US3.2073@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9AE0DE992CF5Cvicman@207.115.17.102...
One fine day in alt.atheism, "bam" <mcca5blah@bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Chom Noamsky" <beef@bbq.yum> wrote in message
news:L8qgk.454$nu6.287@edtnps83...
There are 150 million unwanted children living on the streets around
the world. Take care of them first and we'll talk.
Of course, you'd prefer that they were all dead. And we're supposed to
establish a civil dialogue with you?
You?
BAM
There's a big difference between dead and never born. Think about it.
But when you abort, you get both at the same time.
Moron.
BAM
actually moron, you get both every time you ejaculate... so... wtf IS your
point?... besides demonstrating you're one clued out dumbfuck, that is...
Right. This is the impeccable logic of the atheist. Since only one sperm
usually makes it into the egg, why not kill babies? Is that your message,
Moron?
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Um, no. Multiple times, no.
--
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "I distrust those people who know so well what God *
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BOB
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:13 am Post subject: Re: Message to pro-lifers |
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"klunk" <klunk@theothershoo.org> wrote in
news:MJbhk.20827$nD.6117@pd7urf1no:
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"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9AE2C4E292E7FSD@69.16.185.247...
Stan-O <bndsna807@aol.com> wrote in
news:93ga84h0qjcjmtgsicc09129l1ve783nnh@4ax.com:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:41:26 -0400, "bam" <mcca5blah@bellsouth.net
wrote:
actually moron, you get both every time you ejaculate... so... wtf
IS your point?... besides demonstrating you're one clued out
dumbfuck, that is...
Right. This is the impeccable logic of the atheist. Since only one
sperm usually makes it into the egg, why not kill babies? Is that
your message, Moron?
Benny the Dope has said that anything that has the capability to
form life, is a life. Benny and his gang of thugs in the Vatican
came up with this idea before any atheist did. How's that for
impeccable logic?
If "Benny and his gang of thugs" had their way, they would eliminate
all XX
chromosomes and promote only XY chromosomes for their future pool of
sheep.
or at least attempt to genetically engineer subservience into women...
Do you mean like a lobotomy?  )) |
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(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:15 am Post subject: Re: Tiller abortion clinic allegedly performs abortion on un |
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On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:50:18 -0700 (PDT),
melange <email_type_here@yahoo.co.nz> wrote:
| Quote: | "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- Rx for RRR Cult's Loathsome
Agendas: Extinction!" <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Jon Young/IBenGetiner <Jvisi...@live.com> PARROTED:
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| Quote: | Tiller abortion clinic allegedly performs abortion on unwilling
sixteen-year-old
More hateful BULLCRAP from the asinine RRR Cultists. Tiller
does his work to the letter, by the book. HE can be believed.
Only FOOLS believe the propaganda and lies of the RRR Cult.
FLUSSSSSSsssshhhhh!!
All abortions are coercive against the unborn, who is given no choice
in the matter.
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Party line crap from an RRR Cult lemming whose fallen for so
much of the cult's leaders' mindless hate-propaganda that he/she
has completely lost track of the fact that more than a QUADRILLION
*living,* *human*, *potential* people are electively aborted DAILY,
worldwide, by men. While the RRR's lemmings hypocritically look
the other way and whistle a tune. While CONTINUING their hateful
and loathsome attempts to FORCE girls and women to gestate to
term against their will, which would destroy countless of their victims'
future opportunity, and hurl countless thousands of them into cycles
of poverty.
The RRR Cult is America's own TALIBAN. Loathsome, cruel, immen-
sely-ignorant, and totally without excuse.
| Quote: | -- Craig Chilton
xanadu...@mchsi.com -- To E-Mail me.
http://www.roadrat.com -- Learn how to get PAID to TRAVEL.
http://apifar.blogspot.com-- Great TACTICS to Fight Bigotry.
http://pro-christian.blogspot.com-- Christianity *vs.* Bigotry.
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GOD'S "WIN-WIN-WIN" SITUATION
God is omniscient and omnipotent. That means that He has
always KNOWN everything *about* everything, past present
and future. And that He may freely INTERACT, uniquely, with
any person, group, or all humanity, however and whenever He
chooses.
Trillions (indeed, even octillions) of years ago, God KNEW
just *which* human entities (from sperm and ova on, inclu-
sive) would be born, and which ones would NOT, for what-
ever reason. In the case of Jeremiah, He interacted BEFORE
Jeremiah reached the womb -- while Jeremiah was STILL at
the sperm-and-ovum stage! (Jer. 1:5). In THAT case, at
least, the soul had been instilled at the sperm-and-egg
stage -- the stage at which God communicated with Jeremiah.
So it's VERY possible that God instills ALL souls at that
stage... since God ALREADY knows which of them will later
become people, and which ones will not. And if He chooses
to instill souls in ALL of those, then heaven must be a VERY
populated place. And any potential people that happened to
have been aborted then got a FREE pass to heaven. And
missed the RISK that is faced by all of us here on earth.
And then, there also is the very REAL possibility that God
chooses to instill souls ONLY in the entities that He KNOWS,
beforehand, *will* be BORN. Then there are NO free passes
to heaven. But that's no loss to the QUINTILLION human
entities, daily, that never knew the difference.
Any way you look at it, it's a "win-win" situation for God.
Which makes it no great surprise that He never said so much
as ONE SINGLE WORD against abortion. Since abortion is a
highly-valuable REMEDY that enables millions of women to put
their lives BACK on track, and gives them another chance to
pursue their full ranges of future opportunities, the availability
of it is FAR more in line with God's COMPASSION (and the
compassion that Jesus commanded us to show to others),
than it would be for women to be FORCED to carry-to-term
against their will, and see many of their opportunities and
their well-being destroyed. (Particularly since God ALSO
was/is well-aware that MOST women who DO obtain abortions
go on later to HAVE children, by choice, when the timing is
better, and the circumstances and prospects for long-term
stable family environments are far more favorable.)
For God, the status quo is "win-win-win" -- all the way!
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Sheesh..... What a dick!
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(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:20 am Post subject: Re: Tiller abortion clinic allegedly performs abortion on un |
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On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:45:00 -0700 (PDT),
melange <email_type_here@yahoo.co.nz> wrote:
| Quote: | Jon Young/IBen Getiner<Jvisi...@live.com> PARROTED:
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| Quote: | Tiller abortion clinic allegedly performs abortion on unwilling
sixteen-year-old
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NOTE the "allegedly" part.
| Quote: | Par for the course.
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Ah. So you FELL for that moronic and lying tripe, huh?
So surprise. RRR Cultists are some of the most IGNORANT
slugs on the face of the earth.
Here are the FACTS about abortion --
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
ANALYZING ABORTION-ON-REQUEST* in the USA
*(Abortion Rights as they have existed since 1-22-73)
Abortions obtained by girls and women terminate three of
the four of the reproductive-process entities (RPEs): zygotes,
embryoes & fetuses, up until the 7th month** of gestation)
which have ALL of these characteristics in common with the
first stage -- gametes (sperm and ova):
-- Human
-- Unique
-- As a stage of development, indispensable to future birth
-- Have NEVER experienced conscious awareness*
-- Alive
...which makes it hypocritical when abortion opponents
try to defend the later three stages of the reproductive
process but NOT the Stage One entities (gametes).
** (AFTER the 7th month of gestation begins, conscious
awareness may be possible, but all the other of the above-
listed attributes still apply. (But by then, the ONLY abortions
being performed are for medical emergencies.))
And the Bible, which is the primary moral authority for the
majority of Americans:
-- In NO way condemns abortion.
-- Doesn't even MENTION abortion.
-- By Jesus' day, abortion had been around for 1,000 yrs.
-- Contains NO defenses of RPEs as people.
-- Reserves ALL of its protection for already-BORN people
-- That it regards personhood to begin at BIRTH is
made clear by it's immense emphasis on the import-
ance it ascribes to BIRTH order, BIRTHrights. and
first-BORNS.
-- In certain cases, condemned BABIES to horrible deaths.
-- Never indicates that there is anything "special" about
fertilization.
-- Thus making gametes (the Stage One RPEs) *equal*
in worth to the other three stages.
-- More than a QUADRILLION gametes are electively
aborted DAILY, worldwide... by *men.* All of
which had been *potential* and unique people.
Abortion-on-request enables women to:
-- Put their lives back on track immediately.
-- Restore their well-being to pre-unplanned pregnancy levels.
-- Vast majority of women are happy with this decision.
-- Most women have NO regrets afterward.
-- Restore their full range of future opportunities to
PRE-ill-timed pregnancy levels. Immediately!
-- Avoid physical difficulties of a 9-month pregnancy.
-- Especially important for young girls, ~12-16.
-- Statistically 6-10 times safer than carrying-to-term.
-- Avoid the trauma of adopting-out, and wondering later.
-- Avoid possibility of changing mind about adopting-out,
and those losing the chance to pursue many of the
future opportunies that they formerly had had.
-- Reduce likelihood of long-term economic deprivation.
-- Avoid bringing a child into a less-loving home.
-- Avoid bringing child into unstable environment.
-- Wait until timing is better before having children.
-- Who then are MORE likely to be loved.
-- Who then are MORE likely to be in stable home.
-- And thus are LESS like to have troubled childhoods.
-- And therefore more likely NOT to become criminals.
-- And thus are MORE likely to become successful.
Legal abortion-on-request:
-- Is exponentially safer than illegal abortions.
-- Thus saving the lives of hundreds or thousands of women/yr.
-- Has been available throughout the USA since early 1973.
-- Between 1973 and 2000, 30 million women have had them.
-- Between 1973 and 2008, 45 million abortions have been done.
Other related facts include:
-- MOST women who have abortions go on to HAVE kids later,
when the timing is better .
-- Those children would NOT have been born if the abortions
had not taken place earlier, because the same sperm and
ova would not have matched up.
-- Those "2nd-round" kids STARTED reaching age 13 in
significant numbers by 1988. By the early 1990s, millions
of those "2nd-round" kids were in their mid-teens by the
early 1990s.
-- Mid-teens is the highest risk age for crime, and this
continues into the early 20s.
-- As pointed out above, wanted and loved children are
LESS prone to criminal behavior.
-- By 1995, millions of "2nd-round kids" were entering the
workforce. Perhaps a million-plus MORE have entered it
every year SINCE. By 2000, the oldest ones had reached
the age where they could be getting quite successful.
-- Since the early 1990s, the rate of violent crime in the USA
has declined dramatically, and by 2000 had reached 40-year
lows in many categories.
-- The decade of the 1990s, and the 21st century to date,
in the USA, has been the most economically-dynamic
period of time for any nation in the entire history of the
world, despite temporary fluctuations.
Although the exact figures may be impossible to derive, the
probability that abortion-on-request has SIGNIFICANTLY benefitted
all of America's society in terms of the crime rate and the economy
is QUITE strong, despite the temporary anomaly caused by the attack
on Sept. 11, 2001, and the current gas-prices crunch. And a strong
U.S. economy benefits the entire world.
-- Originally posted to alt.abortion
and talk.abortion on Aug. 13, 2000
and updated since.
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Ray Fischer
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jose <josefsoplar@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Given that Bush IS an "infant butcher" and has been protecting his
cronies from prosecution the answer should be pretty obvious.
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Ray Fischer
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Rudy Canoza
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:31 am Post subject: Re: 9th Circuit to Decide on Constitutionality of Anti-Catho |
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Mike Painter wrote:
| Quote: | Rudy Canoza wrote:
Mike Painter wrote:
Rudy Canoza wrote:
jcon wrote:
On Jul 20, 9:05 pm, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
Is it any suprise that such a hateful resolution would come from a
city such as "Sodom by the Bay"?
http://www.citizenlink.org/CLNews/A000007841.cfm
9th Circuit to Decide on Constitutionality of Anti-Catholic
Resolution Family News in Focus
As long as the Vatican harbors criminals like Bernard Law,
I can't understand why anyone on Earth would even care
what they say about morality.
Nonetheless, the resolution by the childish SF Board of Supervisors
is unconstitutional.
Maybe. The Vatican is a separate country and the law will have to
decide if the church is speaking as a religion or as a country.
The moronic SF Board of Supervisors can say whatever they like about
the Vatican as a country; the equally moronic Berkeley City Council
incompetently blabbers about foreign affairs all the time.
But the SF Board of Morons went on to criticize the Catholic Church
as a church, attacking their religious dogma, and the doctrine of
separation of church and state would seem to forbid that. That
doctrine forbids the persecution of churches as much as it forbids
the state establishment of them.
Then point us to the actual resolution
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You're not very resourceful, are you? Why is it that moral relativists
like you are always such bone-idle lazy fucks that you have to get
someone else to do everything for you?
http://www.sfgov.org/site/uploadedfiles/bdsupvrs/resolutions06/r0168-06.pdf
The emphasis on a "foreign country" was just blowing smoke. The real
issue is they don't like the implications of Catholic dogma, and they
plainly are criticizing the Catholic Church as a church, *not* the
Vatican as a "foreign country." All in all, the resolution reads like
something a petulant, snot-nosed pre-teen kid would write demanding that
his parents do whatever the punk kid wants. It's really hard to believe
that those morons thought they were behaving as responsible adults in
writing and adopting that fucking absurd resolution.
| Quote: | and to the case lawyou claim says a
government entity can't criticize a religion.
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Who said anything about case law, you fucking buffoon? I said the
*doctrine* of separation of church and state forbids persecution of a
church by the state, and it does. Whether or not an irresponsible
failed state like the City of San Francisco will abide by the doctrine
is another matter. For sure, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeal feels
there's enough of a question about it that they've decided to hear the case. |
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Doc Smartass
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"J" <Jvisions@live.com> wrote in news:21vdp9.m9h.19.1@news.alt.net:
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He should hire them to live and work in whatever imbecilic utopia he's
living in in his fucked-up head. Call it Chimpyland.
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Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939
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klunk
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:58 am Post subject: Re: Message to pro-lifers |
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"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns9AE2CDCFE98AASD@69.16.185.250...
| Quote: | "klunk" <klunk@theothershoo.org> wrote in
news:MJbhk.20827$nD.6117@pd7urf1no:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9AE2C4E292E7FSD@69.16.185.247...
Stan-O <bndsna807@aol.com> wrote in
news:93ga84h0qjcjmtgsicc09129l1ve783nnh@4ax.com:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:41:26 -0400, "bam" <mcca5blah@bellsouth.net
wrote:
actually moron, you get both every time you ejaculate... so... wtf
IS your point?... besides demonstrating you're one clued out
dumbfuck, that is...
Right. This is the impeccable logic of the atheist. Since only one
sperm usually makes it into the egg, why not kill babies? Is that
your message, Moron?
Benny the Dope has said that anything that has the capability to
form life, is a life. Benny and his gang of thugs in the Vatican
came up with this idea before any atheist did. How's that for
impeccable logic?
If "Benny and his gang of thugs" had their way, they would eliminate
all XX
chromosomes and promote only XY chromosomes for their future pool of
sheep.
or at least attempt to genetically engineer subservience into women...
Do you mean like a lobotomy? ))
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God's Creator! (HTML)
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last.chance.to.paradise@gmail.com wrote:
| Quote: | Some hundred thousands people saw it....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOg4fAX8jc4
Were they all having an illusion ?
If you manage to love those who want to harm you, then you will gain
something beyond any imagination.
Anything opposing to the above is at least suspicious (don't you agree
with that, deep in your soul?)
Keep you eyes open, for the things to come... and do not be afraid,
because your soul is untouchable.
Do not care about your mortal body. After all, it is just a matter of
time to disintegrate.
No fear, my sisters and brothers.
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Thus Spake: *G* *O* *D* *S* *C* *R* *E* *A* *T* *O* *R*
If Mary really did exist...
She was the most successful liar the world has ever known. 
If *YOU* believe in;
Ghosts,
Fairy's
Leprechaun's
Dragons
Angels
UFOs
Spirits
Lucky Charms
Re-incarnations
Resurrections
Flying Elephants...
etc..
Any of these man created entities,
*YOUR* mental capacity has been seriously damaged, and
*YOU* should (definitely) seek *Professional Mental Health* help immediately!
I am God's Creator! (believe me! (  )
( Sorry, I don't forgive shit! ) 
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Wise men study unknown and mysterious things, to enhance their wisdom.
While stupid men shout, kneel down, close their eyes and mumble.
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