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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Cheney indicted by Texas Grand Jury Reply with quote

On Nov 18, 8:00 pm, "OBAMA Bin Biden ; World Terrorist Kabal" <OBAMA
Bin Bi...@terrorists.org> wrote:
Quote:
"TigerLuck" <TigerLuck@wild_kingdom.com> wrote in message

news:qgJUk.5795$D32.2147@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com...> It's not much but it's a start...
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     Cheney, Gonzalez Indicted in Texas Prison Case

A South Texas grand jury has indicted Vice President Dick Cheney and
former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales on charges related to the
alleged abuse of prisoners in Willacy County's federal detention centers.

The indictment criticizes Cheney's investment in the Vanguard Group,
which holds interests in the private prison companies running the
federal detention centers.

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Another  Prosecutor going to get fired  and disbarred  like Nifong did for
frivilous  & malicious prosecutorail misconduct.
Anyone holding a Vanguard mututal fund could be indicted now including you
if you have a 401 k

The indictment cites Cheney's investment in the Vanguard Group, a major
brokerage and mutual fund firm with financial interests in private prison
companies that run federal detention centers, the newspaper reported.

Hopefully you are included, since you have been a supporter, co-
conspirator, and accessory before, during, and after the fact of your
support of the GWBush Kabal.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Portrait of a LOOOOOZER Reply with quote

"Tartarus" <tartarus@rome.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 18, 9:44 pm, "The Atomic Brain" <a...@whdc.net> wrote:
Quote:
"TigerLuck" <TigerLuck@wild_kingdom.com> wrote in message

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No... not Sarah Palin

But close...

http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/us/news/editorial/e/97/e97caca699dddb...

404

Try

http://tinyurl.com/6rwjmy

He has not conceded -- yet.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:12 pm    Post subject: The Truth About Islam And Why It Is Completely Incompatible Reply with quote

Here are some recommended books showing how and why Islam is
completely incompatible with Christianity and why the God of the Bible
is not nor ever has been the Allah of Islam include, but are not
limited to:

Answering Islam: The Crescent in Light of the Cross by Norman Geisler
& Abdul Saleeb
The Dark Side of Islam by R. C. Sproul and Abdul Saleeb
Reasoning from the Scriptures with Muslims by Ron Rhodes
The Facts on Islam (Revised and Updated) by John Ankerberg, John
Weldon, and Dillon Burroughs
The Truth About Muhammad: Founder of the World's Most Intolerant
Religion by Robert Spencer
Unveiling Islam: An Insider's Look at Muslim Life and Beliefs by Ergun
Mehmet Caner and Emir Fethi Caner

May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:16 am    Post subject: Re: Catholic Priests still mad that Obama won Reply with quote

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:26:51 -0500, "Patrick" <barker_pb@erinot.com>
wrote:

Quote:
"default" <default@defaulter.net> wrote ...
, "Patrick" <barker_pb@erinot.com>> wrote:
"default" <default@defaulter.net> wrote ...
, "Patrick" <barker_pb@erinot.com>> wrote:

The single issue is a very important issue. Abortion is the biggest
evil>in our country today. It kills millions of unborn children before they
even have a chance for life, liberty or the pursuit of happiness.

I would think there are bigger fish to fry. Like the millions of
people who suffer or are killed by environmental factors, or
incompetent medical professionals, or wars, or corrupt governments, or
incompetent presidents.

There is nothing more important than our children. Even Jesus
Christ made mention of people who harm a child - it would be better
if they had a millstone tied around their neck and them being drowned.
Any government that allows abortion.... allows evil. It is a first step
toward oblivion.

No that is just political posturing. The "do it for the children"
mantra. "The children are our future." "We can't ignore the education
of our children" (so we must increase taxes) "Children are preyed
upon." (we must censor the Internet)

Stop plagarizing.

you did note the quote marks?

not around the "political posturing..."

A little explanation: quotes aren't necessary around phrases in the
common American lexicon. Quote marks around "political posturing" are
not needed as there are some 170,000 hits in Google - unlike your
single hit quotes of whole paragraphs. Likewise "the children are our
future," gets quoted by every scum sucking politician that comes down
the pike - common usage.
Quote:


We pay lip service to the idea and it is a great campaign speech since
no one will utter a word against children - you'd be branded an evil
monster baby killing monster and your political career is kaput.

Stop plagarizing?

Opinion

"Evil Monster" has been used thousands of times by better men than you.

You are grasping at straws trying to infer plagiarizing where none

exists. If I were to quote a story out of the Times or Newsweek or
web site it would be a different matter.

Are you really this stupid?
Quote:


Pointing out the stupidity of championing the idea that every zygote
must be defended - even when doing so means the death of people
already alive.

I have never defended every zygote.
I merely defend the idea that children should not be disposed
of when it is an inconvenience to the mother.

Sure life begins with conception long before there is a viable fetus
is your position.

Yes.
You don't know what is viable.
That line moves every year.

If you mean spending millions of dollars to keep a 6 month fetus alive

so that it will need care for the rest of its life in a vegetative
state? That is what you advocate by making sweeping statements.

You feel that strongly? How many have you adopted?

Quote:

Never mind that the product is a hardship to the 13
year old mother who was raped, or will be horribly deformed, or cost
society millions of dollars.

I have no problems with you killing your baby
when you have raped a 13 year old.
I don't think it is right.
And I think you should be punished for your actions of rape.
Then,... you should be punished for killing your child.

You have no problem with terminating a fetus in the case of 13 year
old rape? That's what I'm inferring from your statement. So it
wouldn't be murder in that case?

Quote:

Over 93 percent of all abortions are for convenience.
Less than 2 percent are performed for medical reasons.
I have no problems aborting a child for medical reasons.
Unless you just made up sumthin.

Your definition of convenience and mine just might be different - in
any case, we have no capital invested in the issue so we should not be
the ones to dictate to others.
Quote:



AND it is the very idea that some
religious jerk who has nothing to lose tells others with a lot to lose
how they must lose.

Taking of a life is abhorent to a society.
Life is not property.

Why not tell it like it is. You mean to say "taking human life." I
think we humans are scum for wreaking the environment for other
animals. All life is sacred or no life is sacred.
Quote:


Unions had their place at one time.
They have ensured safety of workers and a decent wage.
Show me a GM worker that deserves $67.00 an hour.
Show me a airline baggage handler that deserves $ 35.00 an hour.

Well given the low numbers of workers in automated plants and the work
requirements they might actually be worth the $67/hr. Damn that's as
much as postal carriers make, but way less than exotic dancers or
lobbyists!

You go ahead and pay that $67.00 an hour then.
And watch your business go outta business quickly.
BTW, Postal Carriers are overpaid also.


The hundreds of millions that some CEO's get are deserved?

Nope.
Not even close.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/15/business/15union.html?_r=1
G.M., which said this week that it lost $38.7 billion last year, can
hire a maximum of about 16,000 workers into so-called non core jobs,
at wages of $14 to $16 an hour, compared with the $28 an hour that
assemblers make now.

28 dollars an hour - they've been taking some pay cuts the last
several years

The top five execs alone at GM pulled down 45-50 million last year.
Their salaries went up about 25% from the previous year while their
sales went down by 50%, and they suffered a $39 billion dollar loss.
So the guy sweating and risking his life on the assembly floor gets
56K/year. Pay ratio between the top and assembly line ~270:1

Yet to augment your politics you don't mention the CEO's when you sing
the praises of the Republicans. The head of GM went from 10 million
dollars in 2006 to 15 million in 2007, and he wants a bailout for 2008
plus his 15 million plus plus salary. When asked if he would take the
Lee Iacocca pledge of $1 a year until the problem was fixed, he went
into a speech about how salaries must be commensurate with the rest of
the industry to attract the best people.

The rest of his industry was sitting at the same table with him during
the hearings and the Chrysler CEO was the only one that said he'd
defer compensation until the problem was solved, if he could get a
bailout. The other two just went into weasel mode.

You just need to watch CSPAN once in awhile.
Quote:

Guess what? Almost no integrated circuits are made in the US, no
LEDs, very few power tools or bicycles, or hand tools, etc.. I can
pay an American electronics distributor $11 for a high power led. or
pay a Chinese one <$2 for the exact same part made in the same
factory. And they ship for free.

Yup.
That is why Americans are going out of business.
We are not competitive.

OR we are globalizing and encouraging companies to move overseas for a
quick buck and avoiding US corporate taxes? We don't have to be
competitive to live well - we do need to do something about our super
rich executives and unbalanced pay structures.
Quote:


The unions aren't the only problem you know. You really like the one
track, one issue, mind set don't you?

I can only address one problem at a time.
Right now, I am addressing corrupt unions.
We'll get to you in a few minutes.

Check your facts first idiot.
Quote:


GM Ford and Chrysler made junk compared to the quality of Japanese
cars. They were concerned with short term corporate profit and not
the long term viability of their respective companies. Executive
compensation only rewards on the instantaneous price of the stock -
not how well a company survives for decades.

Yup.
Whose fault is that?

The executives and board of directors and the use of "financial
instruments" that separate the investor from the companies invested
in, and 401/IRA and mutual funds that do essentially the same things.

This is another problem.
It will get solved quickly when we allow GM to go bankrupt.
Their stock has pretty much tanked, but the active and retired workers
still need money to live on - thanks to the unions.

Will we allow them to go bankrupt? Looks to me like all the posturing

going on in the Senate is so that politicians can say they "tried to
find another solution" before they hand over ~50 billion to the big
three.

And the big three are just quoting what they always say about
improving fuel efficiency, quality, and corporate efficiency. Nothing
new, no great plan they just want to hang in and milk the cow till it
runs dry.

Quote:

Deregulation too

The deregulation was meant to make it easier for a small
business to get started. However, the real culprits turned out to
be the wall street bankers, leverage firms, hedge funds. These
people took advantage and screwed the financial system of America.

The deregulation allowed all of that - allowed small loan companies

and banks to repackage and sell the loans to investors as secured
assets.
Quote:

Gotta go.
Back later.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:30 am    Post subject: Re: Catholic Priests still mad that Obama won Reply with quote

Patrick <barker_pb@erinot.com> wrote:
Quote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote ...
Patrick <barker_pb@erinot.com> wrote:

R+There is nothing more important than our children. Even Jesus
Christ made mention of people who harm a child - it would be better
if they had a millstone tied around their neck and them being drowned.

Why do you hate liberty?

I don't.

Then why do you demand that people live according to your church's
rules?

I don't.

Then you're pro-choice?

Quote:
I am merely telling you what is right and wrong.

And what makes you think that you have any clue at all what is right
or wrong?

Quote:
It is up to you whether you decide to go to heaven or hell
in the afterlife.

According to your cult's propaganda?

Quote:
I am merely a messenger trying to show you the right way.

No, you're trying to push your religion with silly scare tactics.

Quote:
The catholic church and the pope are intolerant of religious freedom.
They accept no rules except their own.

The Catholic Church has the Word of God to guide it.

Says who? The pope?

That's the oldest scam on the books: "You must do as I say because I
speak for God."

Sucker.

Quote:
The apostles were directed by our Savior to

Not interested in your mindless dogma.

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Judge Piglet
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:16 am    Post subject: Re: Worst president Reply with quote

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 07:17:32 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

Quote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:40:14 -0800, Judge Piglet <pontius@uscb.edu> wrote:

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:21:03 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:52:48 -0800, Judge Piglet <pontius@uscb.edu> wrote:

On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 06:41:26 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:07:49 +0000, Alan Ferris <hairy.ferrit@yahoo.co.uk
wrote:

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:58:18 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

The secret service closes airports to flight operations for AF1, you klutz.

So how come they never closed Heathrow for its arrival?

They did to flight operations.

I flew into Heathrow in May of 1996, I believe it was. Clinton was
there on one of his goodwill deals to visit the Queen and AF1 was
sitting right there near one of the cargo areas and our flight and
dozens of others proceeded normally. AF1 was thoroughly surrounded by
military personnel but the airport was FAR from closed.

Airport operations are stopped when AF1 is on the ground.

Ah, well, I've had enough phun with you.

Air Force One is the air traffic control call sign of any United States Air
Force aircraft carrying the President of the United States. Since 1990, the
presidential fleet has consisted of two specifically configured, highly
customized Boeing 747-200B series aircraft – tail codes "28000" and "29000" –
with Air Force designation "VC-25A". While these aircraft are referred to as
"Air Force One" only while the president is on board, the term is commonly used
to describe either of the two aircraft normally used and maintained by the U.S.
Air Force solely for the president.

I am well aware of the aircraft used as AF1 and AF2.

And now you know that airport flight operations are suspended when AF1 is on the
ground. Security is of paramount importance for the President.

Yes and I'm well aware that airports are not closed down. the Court
prounounced this issue resolved and the Judge has the last word. There
is nothing more to talk about and you lose and are relegated to the
trash file until you are summoned forward to amuse us. While you're
sitting in internet 'purgatory', take this time to re-think your
foolish position on this and other issues where you take the role of
the Court Jester. Laters! [the Court sentences Dook the Dick to the
trash file for an undetermined period so that he may participate in
his own recovery. PLONK]
Quote:

When the president needs to fly to locations that have runways too short for the
VC-25A, a Boeing C-32 is used instead.[citation needed] An Air Force aircraft
carrying the Vice President of the United States is designated as Air Force Two.


Airports do not close in the presence of AF1.

Good, because I said that flight operations are suspended when AF1 lands, takes
off, and is on the ground. It's not FAA regs, it's the SS.

I've had enough phun
and since I'm in a better position to know, the case is closed and you
are dismissed.

You just had your ass handed to you, piggy. Now sew it back on like a good
little boy and go find somebody else to try to confuse.


The Dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****


"Jeezus is the coolest of ALL the gods....."

The Semi-Honorable Judge Pontius Pigglesworth, presiding
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:16 am    Post subject: Re: Catholic Priests still mad that Obama won Reply with quote

"default" <default@defaulter.net> wrote
"Patrick" <barker_pb@erinot.com>> wrote:

Quote:
No that is just political posturing. The "do it for the children"
mantra. "The children are our future." "We can't ignore the education
of our children" (so we must increase taxes) "Children are preyed
upon." (we must censor the Internet)

Stop plagarizing.

you did note the quote marks?

not around the "political posturing..."

A little explanation: quotes aren't necessary around phrases in the
common American lexicon.

Why?
They are words spoken by others before.
They are just as common as: Children are our future.


Quote marks around "political posturing" are
Quote:
not needed as there are some 170,000 hits in Google - unlike your
single hit quotes of whole paragraphs.

Children are our future: Google search: 23 MILLION Hits.
Children are preyed upon: Google Search: 174,000 hits.
We can't ignore the education of our children: Search: 1,260,000 hits.


Quote:
Likewise "the children are our
future," gets quoted by every scum sucking politician that comes down
the pike - common usage.

Then why did you put it in quotes?
Make up my mind....


Quote:
We pay lip service to the idea and it is a great campaign speech since
no one will utter a word against children - you'd be branded an evil
monster baby killing monster and your political career is kaput.

Stop plagarizing?

Opinion

"Evil Monster" has been used thousands of times by better men than you.

You are grasping at straws trying to infer plagiarizing where none
exists. If I were to quote a story out of the Times or Newsweek or
web site it would be a different matter.

I agree.
As long as it was copywriten.


Quote:
Are you really this stupid?

Nope.
Just showing you to be always looking to criticize rather than looking
for ways we can agree.


Quote:
Pointing out the stupidity of championing the idea that every zygote
must be defended - even when doing so means the death of people
already alive.

I have never defended every zygote.
I merely defend the idea that children should not be disposed
of when it is an inconvenience to the mother.

Sure life begins with conception long before there is a viable fetus
is your position.

Yes.
You don't know what is viable.
That line moves every year.

If you mean spending millions of dollars to keep a 6 month fetus alive
so that it will need care for the rest of its life in a vegetative
state? That is what you advocate by making sweeping statements.

Do you actually believe what you say?
6 month old fetus aborted because of harelip BIG BLUE WAVE Aug 23, 2006,
9:04 am Abortion of harelip foetus condemned
By Kang Yi (chinadaily.com.cn)
Updated: 2006-08-23 16:11
http://www.encyclocentral.com/Picture_Of_A_6_Month_Old_Fetus-tags.html


Quote:
You feel that strongly? How many have you adopted?

More than one.
It isn't about me.


Quote:
I have no problems with you killing your baby
when you have raped a 13 year old.
I don't think it is right.
And I think you should be punished for your actions of rape.
Then,... you should be punished for killing your child.

You have no problem with terminating a fetus in the case of 13 year
old rape? That's what I'm inferring from your statement. So it
wouldn't be murder in that case?

I personally don't care what you do.
I just don't want it permitted in society.
Of course it would be murder.
Plus the rape.


Quote:
Over 93 percent of all abortions are for convenience.
Less than 2 percent are performed for medical reasons.
I have no problems aborting a child for medical reasons.
Unless you just made up sumthin.

Your definition of convenience and mine just might be different - in
any case, we have no capital invested in the issue so we should not be
the ones to dictate to others.

"Convenience" is the operative word used by statisticians.
WORLDWIDE

Number of abortions per year: Approximately 42 Million
Number of abortions per day: Approximately 115,000

UNITED STATES

Number of abortions per year: 1.37 Million (1996)
Number of abortions per day: Approximately 3,700

Who's having abortions (age)?
52% of women obtaining abortions in the U.S. are younger than 25: Women aged
20-24 obtain 32% of all abortions; Teenagers obtain 20% and girls under 15
account for 1.2%.

Who's having abortions (race)?
While white women obtain 60% of all abortions, their abortion rate is well
below that of minority women. Black women are more than 3 times as likely as
white women to have an abortion, and Hispanic women are roughly 2 times as
likely.

Who's having abortions (marital status)?
64.4% of all abortions are performed on never-married women; Married women
account for 18.4% of all abortions and divorced women obtain 9.4%.

Who's having abortions (income)?
Women with family incomes less than $15,000 obtain 28.7% of all abortions;
Women with family incomes between $15,000 and $29,999 obtain 19.5%; Women
with family incomes between $30,000 and $59,999 obtain 38.0%; Women with
family incomes over $60,000 obtain 13.8%.

Why women have abortions
1% of all abortions occur because of rape or incest; 6% of abortions occur
because of potential health problems regarding either the mother or child,
and 93% of all abortions occur for social reasons (i.e. the child is
unwanted or inconvenient).

At what gestational ages are abortions performed:
52% of all abortions occur before the 9th week of pregnancy, 25% happen
between the 9th & 10th week, 12% happen between the 11th and 12th week, 6%
happen between the 13th & 15th week, 4% happen between the 16th & 20th week,
and 1% of all abortions (16,450/yr.) happen after the 20th week of
pregnancy.

http://www.abortionno.org/Resources/fastfacts.html


Quote:
AND it is the very idea that some
religious jerk who has nothing to lose tells others with a lot to lose
how they must lose.

Taking of a life is abhorent to a society.
Life is not property.

Why not tell it like it is. You mean to say "taking human life." I
think we humans are scum for wreaking the environment for other
animals. All life is sacred or no life is sacred.

OK.
I suppose you are a vegetarian then.
I'm not.


Quote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/15/business/15union.html?_r=1
G.M., which said this week that it lost $38.7 billion last year, can
hire a maximum of about 16,000 workers into so-called non core jobs,
at wages of $14 to $16 an hour, compared with the $28 an hour that
assemblers make now.
28 dollars an hour - they've been taking some pay cuts the last
several years

So what?
Do you think all people should make $28,00 an hour?
What is minimum wage in your state?


Quote:
The top five execs alone at GM pulled down 45-50 million last year.
Their salaries went up about 25% from the previous year while their
sales went down by 50%, and they suffered a $39 billion dollar loss.
So the guy sweating and risking his life on the assembly floor gets
56K/year. Pay ratio between the top and assembly line ~270:1

Cut the CEO's pay by 90 percent.
Cut the assembly guy to $ 20.00 an hour.
And then the product will be competititve in the world.
Until then, they will continue to lose business, lose their competitive
edge, and will lose customers and product.
It is up to them to get adult leadership to figure this out.


Quote:
Yet to augment your politics you don't mention the CEO's when you sing
the praises of the Republicans. The head of GM went from 10 million
dollars in 2006 to 15 million in 2007, and he wants a bailout for 2008
plus his 15 million plus plus salary. When asked if he would take the
Lee Iacocca pledge of $1 a year until the problem was fixed, he went
into a speech about how salaries must be commensurate with the rest of
the industry to attract the best people.

Then the industry needs to go bankrupt.
As President Bush is pushing for.


Quote:
The rest of his industry was sitting at the same table with him during
the hearings and the Chrysler CEO was the only one that said he'd
defer compensation until the problem was solved, if he could get a
bailout. The other two just went into weasel mode.

They merely need to go bankrupt then.

Quote:
You just need to watch CSPAN once in awhile.

Channel 10 and 22..


Quote:
Guess what? Almost no integrated circuits are made in the US, no
LEDs, very few power tools or bicycles, or hand tools, etc.. I can
pay an American electronics distributor $11 for a high power led. or
pay a Chinese one <$2 for the exact same part made in the same
factory. And they ship for free.

Yup.
That is why Americans are going out of business.
We are not competitive.

OR we are globalizing and encouraging companies to move overseas for a
quick buck and avoiding US corporate taxes? We don't have to be
competitive to live well - we do need to do something about our super
rich executives and unbalanced pay structures.

Yup. I agree.


Quote:
The unions aren't the only problem you know. You really like the one
track, one issue, mind set don't you?

I can only address one problem at a time.
Right now, I am addressing corrupt unions.
We'll get to you in a few minutes.

Check your facts first idiot.

Gee, do ya think?


Quote:
GM Ford and Chrysler made junk compared to the quality of Japanese
cars. They were concerned with short term corporate profit and not
the long term viability of their respective companies. Executive
compensation only rewards on the instantaneous price of the stock -
not how well a company survives for decades.

Yup.
Whose fault is that?

The executives and board of directors and the use of "financial
instruments" that separate the investor from the companies invested
in, and 401/IRA and mutual funds that do essentially the same things.

This is another problem.
It will get solved quickly when we allow GM to go bankrupt.
Their stock has pretty much tanked, but the active and retired workers
still need money to live on - thanks to the unions.

Will we allow them to go bankrupt?

I hope so.
I really do.
If they don't go bankrupt this year, they will do it next year.
Why should we throw money down a gopher hole and then
watch them go bankrupt afterwards? Throwing good money
after bad.



Quote:
Looks to me like all the posturing
going on in the Senate is so that politicians can say they "tried to
find another solution" before they hand over ~50 billion to the big
three.

I hope that congress wakes up. Or the president vetoes it.


Quote:
And the big three are just quoting what they always say about
improving fuel efficiency, quality, and corporate efficiency. Nothing
new, no great plan they just want to hang in and milk the cow till it
runs dry.

Yup.
I say to dry it up earlier than later.
It will be cheaper for the taxpayer.


Quote:
Deregulation too

The deregulation was meant to make it easier for a small
business to get started. However, the real culprits turned out to
be the wall street bankers, leverage firms, hedge funds. These
people took advantage and screwed the financial system of America.

The deregulation allowed all of that - allowed small loan companies
and banks to repackage and sell the loans to investors as secured
assets.

Yup. We trusted the bankers to do the right thing.
Instead, they found a way to make more money for themselves.
At the expense of the American public.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:27 am    Post subject: Re: Catholic Priests still mad that Obama won Reply with quote

Part 2

"default" <default@defaulter.net> wrote
Quote:

Crack mothers lose their babies to the social programs.
Other mothers who don't act as parents also lose their kids.
That is fine with me.
I am angry at those females who kill their kids for convenience.
Death is forever.

You're not angry with parents who abuse their children though?

Of course I am.
We have programs set up to minimize this crime.
We have no program to minimize murder of your fetus.


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Look no further than Ronnie Reagan and Bubba Clinton for most of what
we are experiencing today.

I agree that clintoon was a bad president.
Ronnie was merely stupid. He had a great vision.
He wasn't able to find trustworthy people.
Clinton deliberately hired ass wipes to screw the American public.


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So how does a mental deficient like GW become president twice?
Diebold!

Because GW is consistent. He is a known quantity. People know
that he won't be taking polls to determine vacation areas for his family.
He won't be screwing young ladies in the oval office, bombing sovereign
nations to take the heat off his impeachment, or lying to the American
public.


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If a short attention span is a recognized
shortcoming one should be learning to overcome it - not expect the
world to adapt to one's deficit.

I couldn't afford to waste a second of time on stupid crap.
But, the details of a coordinated plan to bomb Libya without
'assistance from Spain, France or Italy needs a lot of attention.
One of the main lessons I learned was that it is easier and much
faster to ask for forgiveness than it is to ask for permission.

All about you isn't it. Bit of a drama queen? That last is
plagiarized too - you aren't the first one to have "learned" it, or to
have plagiarized it for that matter.

I have dozens of examples. You'll have to wait
for the book.


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The government is only going to inflate the currency. Given that
pennies cost more to make than their face value, they may just have to
"Revalue" the currency. Old dollars will be worth a fraction of new
dollars 4:1 or 10:1 ratio. That is where we are headed now.

I was in Israel when their currency went from 1000 to 1.
I still have a 1000 shekel bill and one that looks exactly
like it claiming it is a 1 shekel bill. I think there is a picture
of Golda Meir on it....


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If you are hoarding and have your needs met with a small farm miles
from any neighbors you'd be all set.

OK, I guess I am set.


Quote:
Buy some silver bullets for that S&W and you may be onto something.
That would be the ultimate inflation hedge. For self defense a
shotgun is hard to beat.

I got on a binge once and got rid of most of my guns.
Just kept a hunting rifle, and a few pistols. (unregistered, of course)
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:34 am    Post subject: Re: Catholic Priests still mad that Obama won Reply with quote

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote ...
Quote:
Patrick <barker_pb@erinot.com> wrote:

There is nothing more important than our children. Even Jesus
Christ made mention of people who harm a child - it would be better
if they had a millstone tied around their neck and them being drowned.

Why do you hate liberty?

I don't.

Then why do you demand that people live according to your church's
rules?

I don't.

Then you're pro-choice?

Nope.
This isn't an either-or definition.
Do you wish to follow the RCC rules?
If you say yes, then good.
If you say "no," then I might claim you believe in murder, theft,
lying, adultery, etc.
Grow up.


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I am merely telling you what is right and wrong.

And what makes you think that you have any clue at all what is right
or wrong?

You are lucky to have me.
Most people don't know the rules yet.
Send them my way.
If you need backup, look at scripture and tradition.



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It is up to you whether you decide to go to heaven or hell
in the afterlife.

According to your cult's propaganda?

According to God's words.
It is up to you.
Your choice... no one elses....



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I am merely a messenger trying to show you the right way.

No, you're trying to push your religion with silly scare tactics.

The truth is sometimes scary.
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
This fact may be scary to you....
but then, ... you are an ass hole.


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The catholic church and the pope are intolerant of religious freedom.
They accept no rules except their own.

The Catholic Church has the Word of God to guide it.

Says who? The pope?

Did you forget?
I am the messenger today.
The pope will take over tomorrow.



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That's the oldest scam on the books: "You must do as I say because I
speak for God."

Works for me.



Quote:
Sucker.

Ass hole.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:39 am    Post subject: Re: Catholic Priests still mad that Obama won Reply with quote

"Patrick" <barker_pb@erinot.com> wrote in message
news:d7mdnYEL0-jF5bnUnZ2dnUVZ_s3inZ2d@posted.localnet...
Quote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote ...
Patrick <barker_pb@erinot.com> wrote:

There is nothing more important than our children. Even Jesus
Christ made mention of people who harm a child - it would be better
if they had a millstone tied around their neck and them being
drowned.

Why do you hate liberty?

I don't.

Then why do you demand that people live according to your church's
rules?

I don't.

Then you're pro-choice?

Nope.

Do you want to make abortions illegal?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:33 am    Post subject: Re: The Truth About Islam And Why It Is Completely Incompati Reply with quote

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:12:05 -0800 (PST), Carl <saints@nettally.com>
wrote:

Quote:
Here are some recommended books showing how and why Islam is
completely incompatible with Christianity and why the God of the Bible
is not nor ever has been the Allah of Islam include, but are not
limited to:

Who gives a flying fuck, imbecile?

They're BOTH merely religions. BOTH treated deadly seriously by their
own followers. BOTH equally ridiculous to everybody else.

[snip crap]

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May God bless,

Who sneezed, imbecile?

Quote:
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:00 am    Post subject: Re: Obama Must Resign As President NOW - Reinstate Bush As P Reply with quote

On Nov 19, 8:47 pm, Liberals are STILL vermin <rander3...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Quote:
Infinite right wing infallibility and wisdom is entrenched in our common
sense dogma. Bush never makes mistakes, he is perfect in every way. If
McCain were elected President instead of Obama, the stock market would
probably be at 20,000 points today and there would be no unemployment and
everybody would be buying gas swilling SUV's and there would be none of this
silly talk about not buying oil from Muslim sources that fund terrorism.

On your knees and pray to Bush for forgiveness.

Signed

Richard Anderson - Notorious Canadian pedophile, right wing racist and
mentally ill welfare case.
I live in Toronto, Ontario and my criminal record along with being a
registered sex offender prohibits my entry into the USA.

Charter Member of NAMBLA - A Subsidiary of the Republican National Committee.

Eat shit and die he is YOUR president for 8 more YEARS, enjoy everday!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:31 am    Post subject: Re: Obama Must Resign As President NOW - Reinstate Bush As P Reply with quote

On Nov 19, 10:47 pm, Liberals are STILL vermin <rander3...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Quote:
Infinite right wing infallibility and wisdom is entrenched in our common
sense dogma.    Bush never makes mistakes, he is perfect in every way..   If
McCain were elected President instead of Obama, the stock market would
probably be at 20,000 points today and there would be no unemployment and
everybody would be buying gas swilling SUV's and there would be none of this
silly talk about not buying oil from Muslim sources that fund terrorism.

On your knees and pray to Bush for forgiveness.

Signed

Richard Anderson - Notorious Canadian pedophile, right wing racist and
mentally ill welfare case.
I live in Toronto, Ontario and my criminal record along with being a
registered sex offender prohibits my entry into the USA.

Charter Member of NAMBLA - A Subsidiary of the Republican National Committee.

This thread was started by a name-hijacking homosexual leftist.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:24 am    Post subject: Re: Cheney indicted by Texas Grand Jury Reply with quote

<i_hate_gwbush@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7e5a1616-2a55-463f-a575-99989b61df12@e12g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 18, 8:00 pm, "OBAMA Bin Biden ; World Terrorist Kabal" <OBAMA
Bin Bi...@terrorists.org> wrote:
Quote:
"TigerLuck" <TigerLuck@wild_kingdom.com> wrote in message

news:qgJUk.5795$D32.2147@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com...> It's not much but it's a
start...
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Cheney, Gonzalez Indicted in Texas Prison Case

A South Texas grand jury has indicted Vice President Dick Cheney and
former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales on charges related to the
alleged abuse of prisoners in Willacy County's federal detention
centers.

The indictment criticizes Cheney's investment in the Vanguard Group,
which holds interests in the private prison companies running the
federal detention centers.

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Another Prosecutor going to get fired and disbarred like Nifong did for
frivilous & malicious prosecutorail misconduct.
Anyone holding a Vanguard mututal fund could be indicted now including you
if you have a 401 k

The indictment cites Cheney's investment in the Vanguard Group, a major
brokerage and mutual fund firm with financial interests in private prison
companies that run federal detention centers, the newspaper reported.

FUCK I have Vanguard funds too! Man i am going to prison with Bubba ! SHIT!
===============

Yeah you will have shit on your dick for sure, maggot.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:25 am    Post subject: Re: Cheney indicted by Texas Grand Jury Reply with quote

<EskWIRED@spamblock.panix.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
In alt.religion.christian Jim Alder <jimalder@ssnet.com> wrote:
TigerLuck <TigerLuck@wild_kingdom.com> wrote:

It's not much but it's a start...

A start, is it? You mean there will be more Democrats who, having lost
their positions, have uber-hissy fits and start throwing ridiculous
indictments around?

They were indicted by a Texas Grand Jury.
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So was Tom Delay , right before the charges were thrown out of court.
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