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Codebreaker
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:42 am    Post subject: Re: The Truth About Islam And Why It Is Completely Incompati Reply with quote

On Nov 20, 7:33 pm, Carl <sai...@nettally.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Nov 20, 7:28 pm, Raymond <rwkn...@aim.com> wrote:





On Nov 20, 6:39 pm, Codebreaker <Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote:

On Nov 19, 4:12 pm, Carl <sai...@nettally.com> wrote:

Here are some recommended books showing how and why Islam is
completely incompatible with Christianity and why the God of the Bible
is not nor ever has been the Allah of Islam include, but are not
limited to:

First of all your premise and your definition
of Christianity are all false.
You confuse Paul's teaching with Christianity
though Paul's himself never uttered such word
as Christianity.
You define Christianity as Trinitarian though
Paul recognized the preachers of the Gospel
of Circumcision as servant of Christs which would
stand for Christian.
Now If the Judaizers are followers of Christ as Paul is
yet opposed on the matter of doctrines, it is safe
to say Christianity was divided into two branches in
the beginning. The branches of those who observe
Moses Law and the branches of those who follow
Paul's novelty. You must accept that fact unless
you want to contradict the Bible itself

When ever I see such terms as one must accept something it in most
cases mean such is false and they do not want anyone to prove they are
wrong.  There is no where that shows or says there are two branches,
and no where do we see a group for Paul and one for Peter and one for
James and another for Luke etc.  The bible would contradict your weak
explanation.

Quite true, Raymond, but "Codebreaker", just as "arah" aren't
interested in the truth and are taught by their Islamic masters that
deception when it comes to dealing with Christians is not only
acceptable but an Islamic virture.


Again Islam is grounded in the Bible.
Your missionary exegesis is dead



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Patrick
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:43 am    Post subject: Re: Catholic Priests still mad that Obama won Reply with quote

"default" <default@defaulter.net> wrote ...
Quote:
, "Patrick" <barker_pb@erinot.com>> wrote:
"default" <default@defaulter.net> wrote
A fetus is just some un live stuff that may or may not become
something else.

What? A door? perhaps a piece of carpet? a cockroach?

About as valuable as a cockroach.

A fetus has a heartbeat as young as 18 days old.
Worthless?
A piece of property?


Quote:
Because GW is consistent. He is a known quantity. People know
that he won't be taking polls to determine vacation areas for his
family.
He won't be screwing young ladies in the oval office, bombing sovereign
nations to take the heat off his impeachment, or lying to the American
public.

He's probably impotent, so that's no virtue.

Is this where you want the discussion to go?

Only if you feel the need to lionize His Royal Scumness, Keeper of the
Holy Feces, Defender of Delusion, Mighty King George the Lessor.

You think Kerry would have been better? Or albore?
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BOB
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:51 am    Post subject: Re: Catholic Priests still mad that Obama won Reply with quote

"Patrick" <barker_pb@erinot.com> wrote in
news:WPWdne_gP5VFMrjUnZ2dnUVZ_o7inZ2d@posted.localnet:

Quote:
"default" <default@defaulter.net> wrote ...
, "Patrick" <barker_pb@erinot.com>> wrote:
"default" <default@defaulter.net> wrote
A fetus is just some un live stuff that may or may not become
something else.

What? A door? perhaps a piece of carpet? a cockroach?

About as valuable as a cockroach.

A fetus has a heartbeat as young as 18 days old.
Worthless?
A piece of property?

Not your decision to make, nor mine.


Quote:

Because GW is consistent. He is a known quantity. People know
that he won't be taking polls to determine vacation areas for his
family.
He won't be screwing young ladies in the oval office, bombing
sovereign nations to take the heat off his impeachment, or lying to
the American public.

He's probably impotent, so that's no virtue.

Is this where you want the discussion to go?

Only if you feel the need to lionize His Royal Scumness, Keeper of
the Holy Feces, Defender of Delusion, Mighty King George the Lessor.

You think Kerry would have been better? Or albore?

Why yes, of course they would have been better. Just about anyone would

have.

>
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Carl
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:53 am    Post subject: Re: The Truth About Islam And Why It Is Completely Incompati Reply with quote

On Nov 20, 7:42 pm, Codebreaker <Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote:
Quote:

Again Islam is grounded in the Bible.

And again you're wrong. Christianity and Islam are completely and
utterly incompatible.

Quote:
Your missionary exegesis is dead

Actually, proper exegesis shows how wrong your position is.

You seem to be confident in your stance. I wonder if you are confident
enough and bold enough to take Sam Shamoun up on his challenges to any
and all Muslims. Sam Shamoun's challenges may be found at the
following:

http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenge_not_god.htm
http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenges_for_muslims.htm
http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenge_trinity.htm
http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenge_messiah_word.htm

These challenges are open to any and all Muslims. Since you are so
keen on trying to validate Islam it would behoove you to address those
challenges. But if you're nothing but another troll under the guise of
Islam, then you're wating my precious time.

Read about dozens of personal testimonies of Muslim who converted to
Christianity at:
http://www.answering-islam.org/Testimonies/index.html

May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
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Codebreaker
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:00 am    Post subject: Re: The Truth About Islam And Why It Is Completely Incompati Reply with quote

On Nov 20, 7:53 pm, Carl <sai...@nettally.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Nov 20, 7:42 pm, Codebreaker <Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote:



Again Islam is grounded in the Bible.

And again you're wrong. Christianity and Islam are completely and
utterly incompatible.

In your head of a missionary and not in History.
There were Hebrew Christians before Paul
came up with his novelty of salvation by Faith.
And the Bible told us that he was opposed by the
Pharisees hence the Council in Acts 15.
Council that Paul himself contradicted in his epistle
to the Collossians.
James had to remind him that Hebrews should keep
circumcising and obey Moses Law.
As you see, Islam is not far from James position.
Of course you at a loss



Quote:

Your missionary exegesis is dead

Actually, proper exegesis shows how wrong your position is.

You seem to be confident in your stance. I wonder if you are confident
enough and bold enough to take Sam Shamoun up on his challenges to any
and all Muslims. Sam Shamoun's challenges may be found at the
following:

http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenge_not_god.htmhttp://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenges_for_muslims.htmhttp://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenge_trinity.htmhttp://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenge_messiah_word.htm

These challenges are open to any and all Muslims. Since you are so
keen on trying to validate Islam it would behoove you to address those
challenges. But if you're nothing but another troll under the guise of
Islam, then you're wating my precious time.

Read about dozens of personal testimonies of Muslim who converted to
Christianity at:http://www.answering-islam.org/Testimonies/index.html

May God bless,
Carl
my website --http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog --http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
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Codebreaker
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:03 am    Post subject: Re: The Truth About Islam And Why It Is Completely Incompati Reply with quote

On Nov 20, 7:53 pm, Carl <sai...@nettally.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Nov 20, 7:42 pm, Codebreaker <Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote:



Again Islam is grounded in the Bible.

And again you're wrong. Christianity and Islam are completely and
utterly incompatible.

Your missionary exegesis is dead

Actually, proper exegesis shows how wrong your position is.

You seem to be confident in your stance. I wonder if you are confident
enough and bold enough to take Sam Shamoun up on his challenges to any
and all Muslims. Sam Shamoun's challenges may be found at the
following:

http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenge_not_god.htmhttp://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenges_for_muslims.htmhttp://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenge_trinity.htmhttp://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenge_messiah_word.htm

These challenges are open to any and all Muslims. Since you are so
keen on trying to validate Islam it would behoove you to address those
challenges. But if you're nothing but another troll under the guise of
Islam, then you're wating my precious time.



THE BIBLE AND NOTHING BUT THE BIBLE IS ENOUGH
FOR ME TO VALIDATE THE GOSPEL OF CIRCUMCISION
FOUND IN ISLAM. Shame on Sham

Quote:

Read about dozens of personal testimonies of Muslim who converted to
Christianity at:http://www.answering-islam.org/Testimonies/index.html

May God bless,
Carl
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my blog --http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
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Ray Fischer
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:05 am    Post subject: Re: Catholic Priests still mad that Obama won Reply with quote

Patrick <barker_pb@erinot.com> wrote:
Quote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote ...
Patrick <barker_pb@erinot.com> wrote:

Making abortions illegal is not on my list of priorities.
Getting the federal government out of the business of state's business
is much higher.

That was the argument of the racists of the 1800s who wanted to keep
slavery and objected to the federal government forcing them to abolish
that abhorrent practice.

So?
If the federal government wants to abolish abortion -- OK.

Why do you hate liberty?

Why are you stupid?

LOL! A rightard whines about OTHER people's supposed stupidity!

Quote:
Why do you want murder decriminalized?
Why do you stop at stop signs?
Do you hate liberty?

You're just a big-government control freak You think that it's just
fine to enslave women if it's what YOU want, and you think that
resisting your effort denies you your right to enslave people.

Quote:
Forcing hospitals to provide abortions is not the
business of government.

I's also a fiction, invented by immoral pro-liars.

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com)

They're a bunch of shameless liars with no credibility.

I give you a reference.

They're a bunch of shameless liars with no credibility.

Quote:
Forcing taxpayers to pay for abortions

Supporters of the United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA) are confident
that
President-elect Barack Obama will reverse the Bush administration's 2002
decision to stop the $40 million it received in U.S. funding. The policy
was
instated because of UNFPA's support for China's one-child policy, which
includes coercive abortion practices.

The UNFPA is about providing contraception and education. They don't
do abortion, pro-liar moron.

I give you a reference.

And it doesn't even begin to support your claim.

Quote:
You call them liars.

Now YOU are the liar.

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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Ray Fischer
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:09 am    Post subject: Re: Catholic Priests still mad that Obama won Reply with quote

Patrick <barker_pb@erinot.com> wrote:
Quote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote ...
Patrick <barker_pb@erinot.com> wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote ...

Which is why you spend your time and money posting here instead of
working to help children.

Which is why you don't know shit.

Are you going to claim that you're NOT posting here?

Nope.

Then my statement was correct.

Quote:
I'm telling you that you don't know shit about what I
do to help children and older folks every single day.

Wrong, idiot. I see you wasting time and money posting your hate
here when you could be saving people's lives.

Quote:
Do
you really need to know these things?

You're one of those anti-choice bigots who thinks that you have the
right to know the details of people's sex lives. Why are you whining
when I show you to be a stinking hypocrite?

Quote:
If I told you,
you wouldn't believe me anyway?

I'd tell you the same thing you'd tell a pregnant woman who was
3-months pregnant and wanted an abortion.

"Do more."

Quote:
When was the last time you did some charity work.
I did some just yesterday.

Oooo! Children dying of hunger at the rate of 15,000 per DAY and you
did "some" charity work yesterday!

See, I tole you....

Admit it: You're a hypocrite and a bigot.

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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Ray Fischer
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:10 am    Post subject: Re: Catholic Priests still mad that Obama won Reply with quote

Patrick <barker_pb@erinot.com> wrote:
Quote:
"default" <default@defaulter.net> wrote ...
, "Patrick" <barker_pb@erinot.com>> wrote:
"default" <default@defaulter.net> wrote
A fetus is just some un live stuff that may or may not become
something else.

What? A door? perhaps a piece of carpet? a cockroach?

About as valuable as a cockroach.

A fetus has a heartbeat as young as 18 days old.

So does a brain-dead corpse.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:13 am    Post subject: Re: The Truth About Islam And Why It Is Completely Incompati Reply with quote

On Nov 20, 7:53 pm, Carl <sai...@nettally.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Nov 20, 7:42 pm, Codebreaker <Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote:



Again Islam is grounded in the Bible.

And again you're wrong. Christianity and Islam are completely and
utterly incompatible.

Is a christian, he that accepts Jesus as the Christ
or Messiah foretold in the Torah of Moses and follow him.
This is the definition of being a christian.
"I shall send them Christ/Messiah a prophet like you
Moses, they must listen to him" Deut 18:15
This is the foundation of Christianity and his definition
must take this into account

It is erreneous to define Christian as someone who believes
Jesus to be the son of God.
There is no such definition in the Bible





Quote:

Your missionary exegesis is dead

Actually, proper exegesis shows how wrong your position is.

You seem to be confident in your stance. I wonder if you are confident
enough and bold enough to take Sam Shamoun up on his challenges to any
and all Muslims. Sam Shamoun's challenges may be found at the
following:

http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenge_not_god.htmhttp://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenges_for_muslims.htmhttp://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenge_trinity.htmhttp://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenge_messiah_word.htm

These challenges are open to any and all Muslims. Since you are so
keen on trying to validate Islam it would behoove you to address those
challenges. But if you're nothing but another troll under the guise of
Islam, then you're wating my precious time.

Read about dozens of personal testimonies of Muslim who converted to
Christianity at:http://www.answering-islam.org/Testimonies/index.html

May God bless,
Carl
my website --http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog --http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:20 am    Post subject: Re: The Truth About Islam And Why It Is Completely Incompati Reply with quote

On Nov 20, 8:13 pm, Tohu.B...@hotmail.com wrote:
Quote:
On Nov 20, 7:53 pm, Carl <sai...@nettally.com> wrote:

On Nov 20, 7:42 pm, Codebreaker <Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote:

Again Islam is grounded in the Bible.

And again you're wrong. Christianity and Islam are completely and
utterly incompatible.

Is a christian, he that accepts Jesus as the Christ
or Messiah foretold in the Torah of Moses and follow him.
This is the definition of being a christian.
"I shall send them Christ/Messiah a prophet like you
Moses, they must listen to him" Deut 18:15
This is the foundation of Christianity and his definition
must take this into account

It is erreneous to define Christian as someone who believes
Jesus to be the son of God.
There is no such definition in the Bible

Actually, to be Christian, one must accept by faith that Jesus Christ,
(God the Son, the Son of God as taught in the Bible) is their Lord and
Savior and it is through that faith, by God's Grace that they are
saved. A good article on how to become a Christian may be found at:

http://www.carm.org/seek/be_christian.htm

May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:11 am    Post subject: Re: Catholic Priests still mad that Obama won Reply with quote

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:29:56 -0500, "Patrick" <barker_pb@erinot.com>
wrote:

Quote:

Yup.
Perhaps they are.
One of my greatest attributes was to make people do what I wanted,
and make them think it was their idea. Life was easy for me.


There's no appreciation for the idea that some people must/should be
stewards and lift up the others to their full potential of awareness.
If you're born with a little more ability you just start thinking it
is all your own doing and grab as much as you can. Not "my brothers
keeper."

Speak for yourself.
I consider myself a very lucky or "blessed" person.
I thank God for my abilities every single day.
And I try to pay back for the blessings I have received.

That is inconsistent with your statement of: "One of my greatest

attributes was to make people do what I wanted, and make them think it
was their idea. Life was easy for me."

What you are describing is manipulation, and the statement is arrogant
beyond good taste.
Quote:
When people thank me for helping them, I always tell
them that it is my pleasure... and guess what.... I mean it.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:15 am    Post subject: Re: Catholic Priests still mad that Obama won Reply with quote

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:43:35 -0500, "Patrick" <barker_pb@erinot.com>
wrote:

Quote:
"default" <default@defaulter.net> wrote ...
, "Patrick" <barker_pb@erinot.com>> wrote:
"default" <default@defaulter.net> wrote
A fetus is just some un live stuff that may or may not become
something else.

What? A door? perhaps a piece of carpet? a cockroach?

About as valuable as a cockroach.

A fetus has a heartbeat as young as 18 days old.
Worthless?
A piece of property?

People with no mental activity can be kept alive for years. Their
worth is solely in whatever their organs will fetch.
Quote:


Because GW is consistent. He is a known quantity. People know
that he won't be taking polls to determine vacation areas for his
family.
He won't be screwing young ladies in the oval office, bombing sovereign
nations to take the heat off his impeachment, or lying to the American
public.

He's probably impotent, so that's no virtue.

Is this where you want the discussion to go?

Only if you feel the need to lionize His Royal Scumness, Keeper of the
Holy Feces, Defender of Delusion, Mighty King George the Lessor.

You think Kerry would have been better? Or albore?

I think Donald Duck would have been better.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:35 am    Post subject: Half-ass judge piggy bite the dust Reply with quote

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 06:36:34 -0800, Judge Piglet <pontius@uscb.edu> wrote:

Quote:
The air is SO much fresher since I put the Dookster in my garbage
file. I'll keep him there for a while as he rethinks his position on
this. He doesn't realized that I forgotten more about airport
operations than he will ever know, having worked at several of the
ones mentioned, mostly during the Clinton years. LAX and SFO was
visited by AF1 several times and neither airport was EVER completely
closed.

The airport, contrary to running and hiding behind your "garbage file", is still
closed to flight operations when AF1 is approaching, departing and on the
ground.

It's not my fault that you stepped in your own bad batch of warmed over sh_t
when you didn't realize that it's not AF1 unless the President is on board. In
stead it is tail number 28000 or 29000.

So you go cry in your little bowl of milk while I laugh at you.

Quote:
At LAX rwy 25 left was closed for a bit as AF1 taxied into
postion and the same with Rwy 28 left at SFO. Traffic was halted
temporarily until landing and departure procedures were completed and
then resumed. Airports were never closed.

Just while AF1 was moving in the area.

Quote:
If the aircraft parked
overnight, it sat in a predesignated protected area, heavily guarded
and operation of the airport continued. It's all very simple.

Yeah, it's not AF1 because the President wasn't on board.

Haahaahaahaahaahaahaa.

The Dukester, American-American
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:07 am    Post subject: Re: The Truth About Islam And Why It Is Completely Incompati Reply with quote

"Codebreaker" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Your definition of Christianity is not founded on
a sound exegesis but emotion.
Paul's teaching does not represent Christianity
Islam is grounded in the Bible and Deuteronomy
18:15 which makes Jesus the Messiah or Christ
is a proof for Islam

And again you're wrong. Christianity and Islam are completely and utterly
incompatible. Proper exegesis shows how wrong your position is.

You seem to be confident in your stance. I wonder if you are confident
enough and bold enough to take Sam Shamoun up on his challenges to any and
all Muslims. Sam Shamoun's challenges may be found at the following:

http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenge_not_god.htm
http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenges_for_muslims.htm
http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenge_trinity.htm
http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenge_messiah_word.htm

These challenges are open to any and all Muslims. Since you are so keen on
trying to validate Islam it would behoove you to address those challenges.
But if you're nothing but another troll under the guise of Islam, then
you're wating my precious time.

Read about dozens of personal testimonies of Muslim who converted to
Christianity at:
http://www.answering-islam.org/Testimonies/index.html

May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
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