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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:08 am    Post subject: Re: The Truth About Islam And Why It Is Completely Incompati Reply with quote

"Codebreaker" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Paul even contradicted the decree of the Apostles
Council held at Jerusalem.
James contradicted Paul on Hebrew circumcision
Pharisees contradicted Paul in Galatia according
to Paul's own letter
all these in the same Bible.
Boy you have a reading comprehension problem
because you believe the New Testament, that
document to be a word a fucking God

And again you're wrong. Christianity and Islam are completely and utterly
incompatible. Proper exegesis shows how wrong your position is.

You seem to be confident in your stance. I wonder if you are confident
enough and bold enough to take Sam Shamoun up on his challenges to any and
all Muslims. Sam Shamoun's challenges may be found at the following:

http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenge_not_god.htm
http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenges_for_muslims.htm
http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenge_trinity.htm
http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenge_messiah_word.htm

These challenges are open to any and all Muslims. Since you are so keen on
trying to validate Islam it would behoove you to address those challenges.
But if you're nothing but another troll under the guise of Islam, then
you're wating my precious time.

Read about dozens of personal testimonies of Muslim who converted to
Christianity at:
http://www.answering-islam.org/Testimonies/index.html

May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:09 am    Post subject: Re: The Truth About Islam And Why It Is Completely Incompati Reply with quote

"Codebreaker" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
In your head of a missionary and not in History.
There were Hebrew Christians before Paul
came up with his novelty of salvation by Faith.
And the Bible told us that he was opposed by the
Pharisees hence the Council in Acts 15.
Council that Paul himself contradicted in his epistle
to the Collossians.
James had to remind him that Hebrews should keep
circumcising and obey Moses Law.
As you see, Islam is not far from James position.
Of course you at a loss

And again you're wrong. Christianity and Islam are completely and utterly
incompatible. Proper exegesis shows how wrong your position is.

You seem to be confident in your stance. I wonder if you are confident
enough and bold enough to take Sam Shamoun up on his challenges to any and
all Muslims. Sam Shamoun's challenges may be found at the following:

http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenge_not_god.htm
http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenges_for_muslims.htm
http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenge_trinity.htm
http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenge_messiah_word.htm

These challenges are open to any and all Muslims. Since you are so keen on
trying to validate Islam it would behoove you to address those challenges.
But if you're nothing but another troll under the guise of Islam, then
you're wating my precious time.

Read about dozens of personal testimonies of Muslim who converted to
Christianity at:
http://www.answering-islam.org/Testimonies/index.html

May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:09 am    Post subject: Re: The Truth About Islam And Why It Is Completely Incompati Reply with quote

"Codebreaker" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
THE BIBLE AND NOTHING BUT THE BIBLE IS ENOUGH
FOR ME TO VALIDATE THE GOSPEL OF CIRCUMCISION
FOUND IN ISLAM. Shame on Sham

And again you're wrong. Christianity and Islam are completely and utterly
incompatible. Proper exegesis shows how wrong your position is.

You seem to be confident in your stance. I wonder if you are confident
enough and bold enough to take Sam Shamoun up on his challenges to any and
all Muslims. Sam Shamoun's challenges may be found at the following:

http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenge_not_god.htm
http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenges_for_muslims.htm
http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenge_trinity.htm
http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenge_messiah_word.htm

These challenges are open to any and all Muslims. Since you are so keen on
trying to validate Islam it would behoove you to address those challenges.
But if you're nothing but another troll under the guise of Islam, then
you're wating my precious time.

Read about dozens of personal testimonies of Muslim who converted to
Christianity at:
http://www.answering-islam.org/Testimonies/index.html

May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
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Judge Piglet
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:01 am    Post subject: Re: Same-Sex Marriage WILL, Inevitably, Become Universally L Reply with quote

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:31:24 -0800, r@somis.org (•R. L. Measures)
wrote:

Quote:
In article <chmbi499oulkvcgif8flpr2mia9uuao3qr@4ax.com>, duke
duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:59:45 -0800, r@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:

In article <5p5bi4d04r6nufsggifdcp84u3b5m4d00f@4ax.com>, duke
duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:13:00 -0800, r@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:

In article <ukg8i4lquia1ncqt71a1jsp4jdp4ih5rlh@4ax.com>, duke
duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 06:37:14 -0800, r@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:

No, the Church wasn't. But a few incorrect priests could have been
improperly
performing such ceremonies that were never accepted by the Church.

• Some provision should be made to accomodate altar-boys and
priests who
truly love each other, and who have been in a long-term sexual
relationship.

Yep, it's called "eternal torment in hell".

• you are a pretty damn funny guy Earl.

Thanks, rl. But mortal sin is mortal sin, be it a young adult or a
priest for
that matter.

• A trip to RC Confession and repenting profusely should take cae of that.

It always does.

• Damn right.


fuck 'n aye!


"It's not hard to do the right thing....
though sometimes it's hard to know what the right thing is.."

The Semi-Honorable Judge Pontius Pigglesworth, presiding
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Ray Fischer
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:12 am    Post subject: Re: Catholic Priests still mad that Obama won Reply with quote

default <default@defaulter.net> wrote:
Quote:
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:43:35 -0500, "Patrick" <barker_pb@erinot.com
wrote:

"default" <default@defaulter.net> wrote ...
, "Patrick" <barker_pb@erinot.com>> wrote:
"default" <default@defaulter.net> wrote
A fetus is just some un live stuff that may or may not become
something else.

What? A door? perhaps a piece of carpet? a cockroach?

About as valuable as a cockroach.

A fetus has a heartbeat as young as 18 days old.
Worthless?
A piece of property?

People with no mental activity can be kept alive for years.

Sometimes they even get elected.

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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John Fraser
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:12 am    Post subject: Re: The Truth About Islam And Why It Is Completely Incompati Reply with quote

How do you explain John 3:16?

Cheers,
John


<Tohu.Bohu@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Nov 20, 7:53 pm, Carl <sai...@nettally.com> wrote:
On Nov 20, 7:42 pm, Codebreaker <Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote:



Again Islam is grounded in the Bible.

And again you're wrong. Christianity and Islam are completely and
utterly incompatible.

Is a christian, he that accepts Jesus as the Christ
or Messiah foretold in the Torah of Moses and follow him.
This is the definition of being a christian.
"I shall send them Christ/Messiah a prophet like you
Moses, they must listen to him" Deut 18:15
This is the foundation of Christianity and his definition
must take this into account

It is erreneous to define Christian as someone who believes
Jesus to be the son of God.
There is no such definition in the Bible






Your missionary exegesis is dead

Actually, proper exegesis shows how wrong your position is.

You seem to be confident in your stance. I wonder if you are confident
enough and bold enough to take Sam Shamoun up on his challenges to any
and all Muslims. Sam Shamoun's challenges may be found at the
following:

http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenge_not_god.htmhttp://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenges_for_muslims.htmhttp://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenge_trinity.htmhttp://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenge_messiah_word.htm

These challenges are open to any and all Muslims. Since you are so
keen on trying to validate Islam it would behoove you to address those
challenges. But if you're nothing but another troll under the guise of
Islam, then you're wating my precious time.

Read about dozens of personal testimonies of Muslim who converted to
Christianity at:http://www.answering-islam.org/Testimonies/index.html

May God bless,
Carl
my website --http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog --http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
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John Fraser
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:12 am    Post subject: Re: The Truth About Islam And Why It Is Completely Incompati Reply with quote

Good morning Codebreaker;

How so?

Cheers,
John


"Codebreaker" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:d1ba7065-822e-4d58-a26a-366967224ba7@h5g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 20, 7:53 pm, Carl <sai...@nettally.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Nov 20, 7:42 pm, Codebreaker <Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote:



Again Islam is grounded in the Bible.

And again you're wrong. Christianity and Islam are completely and
utterly incompatible.

Your missionary exegesis is dead

Actually, proper exegesis shows how wrong your position is.

You seem to be confident in your stance. I wonder if you are confident
enough and bold enough to take Sam Shamoun up on his challenges to any
and all Muslims. Sam Shamoun's challenges may be found at the
following:

http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenge_not_god.htmhttp://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenges_for_muslims.htmhttp://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenge_trinity.htmhttp://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/challenge_messiah_word.htm

These challenges are open to any and all Muslims. Since you are so
keen on trying to validate Islam it would behoove you to address those
challenges. But if you're nothing but another troll under the guise of
Islam, then you're wating my precious time.



THE BIBLE AND NOTHING BUT THE BIBLE IS ENOUGH
FOR ME TO VALIDATE THE GOSPEL OF CIRCUMCISION
FOUND IN ISLAM. Shame on Sham

Quote:

Read about dozens of personal testimonies of Muslim who converted to
Christianity at:http://www.answering-islam.org/Testimonies/index.html

May God bless,
Carl
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my blog --http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
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John Fraser
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:12 am    Post subject: Re: The Truth About Islam And Why It Is Completely Incompati Reply with quote

Good morning Codebreaker;

Correct me if I'm wrong, but did not Jesus declare that those who lived
by the Law would be judged by the Law? Also, did not Paul teach that the
disciples of Christ are no longer bound by the Law, but redeemed through the
shedding of his blood?

Cheers,
John

"Codebreaker" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 19, 4:12 pm, Carl <sai...@nettally.com> wrote:
Quote:
Here are some recommended books showing how and why Islam is
completely incompatible with Christianity and why the God of the Bible
is not nor ever has been the Allah of Islam include, but are not
limited to:


First of all your premise and your definition
of Christianity are all false.
You confuse Paul's teaching with Christianity
though Paul's himself never uttered such word
as Christianity.
You define Christianity as Trinitarian though
Paul recognized the preachers of the Gospel
of Circumcision as servant of Christs which would
stand for Christian.
Now If the Judaizers are followers of Christ as Paul is
yet opposed on the matter of doctrines, it is safe
to say Christianity was divided into two branches in
the beginning. The branches of those who observe
Moses Law and the branches of those who follow
Paul's novelty. You must accept that fact unless
you want to contradict the Bible itself





Quote:

Answering Islam: The Crescent in Light of the Cross by Norman Geisler
& Abdul Saleeb
The Dark Side of Islam by R. C. Sproul and Abdul Saleeb
Reasoning from the Scriptures with Muslims by Ron Rhodes
The Facts on Islam (Revised and Updated) by John Ankerberg, John
Weldon, and Dillon Burroughs
The Truth About Muhammad: Founder of the World's Most Intolerant
Religion by Robert Spencer
Unveiling Islam: An Insider's Look at Muslim Life and Beliefs by Ergun
Mehmet Caner and Emir Fethi Caner

May God bless,
Carl
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John Fraser
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:12 am    Post subject: Re: Islam Is Grounded In The Bible Reply with quote

Good morning Codebreaker;

Islam may be similar to Mosaic Law, but it is hardly compatible with
Christianity in any form. Besides, how could it be when the very source
Christians use is denied by Islam?

Cheers,
John


"Codebreaker" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:4021a8ad-8677-4673-99a7-e61045d3a570@w22g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 19, 4:12 pm, Carl <sai...@nettally.com> wrote:

Quote:
Here are some recommended books showing how and why Islam is
completely incompatible with Christianity and why the God of the Bible
is not nor ever has been the Allah of Islam include, but are not
limited to:

Answering Islam: The Crescent in Light of the Cross by Norman Geisler
& Abdul Saleeb
The Dark Side of Islam by R. C. Sproul and Abdul Saleeb
Reasoning from the Scriptures with Muslims by Ron Rhodes
The Facts on Islam (Revised and Updated) by John Ankerberg, John
Weldon, and Dillon Burroughs
The Truth About Muhammad: Founder of the World's Most Intolerant
Religion by Robert Spencer
Unveiling Islam: An Insider's Look at Muslim Life and Beliefs by Ergun
Mehmet Caner and Emir Fethi Caner

Islam may not be compatible with Paul, and the Trinitarian
Catholicism but is still grounded in the Bible according
to the decrees of the Council of Jerusalem.
It is compatible with the pharisees requirements for
Christ's followers
It is compatible with the Gospel of Circumcision.
It is the Christianity of the first Hebrews before Paul's conversion.
Christianity that was later transposed in Arab pagans milieu.


Judaism: The Torah, the Prophets and the Talmud

Gentile Christianity: Paul teaching: Christ (-) Moses Law
No Circumcision, The Gospel of Faith,
Salvation by faith which evolved
into TRINITARIAN Catholicism


Semitic Christianity: The Pharisees teaching: Christ (+) Moses Law,
the Gospel of Circumcision
and the Decrees Of The
Council Of Jerusalem which evolved
into ISLAM


There is but one Christianity with its two different branches
Paul,s branch and the Pharisaic branch
Therefore, it is a mistake to say such thing as Islam versus
Christianity.
And of course SOLA SCRIPTURA is dead.



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:25 am    Post subject: Re: The Truth About Islam And Why It Is Completely Incompati Reply with quote

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA: The begining of the Armagedon War.

Barack Hussein Obama ( is that a christian name or what ?) is a false
christian, He is a muslim from Islam, and he is a socialist trained by
Fidel Castro and partners from Internacional Socialism. He is a Jew
Zionist luxury member too, read:

Quote:
USE THE GOOGLE TRANSLATOR, IS FREE,
You can translate some words or a total web page:

http://translate.google.com/translate_t?hl=es#
Use a separate tab or another window to translate any thing in many
languages.

The Zionists are a sect or cult from Israel.

The sect of the Zionists will be destroyed according to the
prophecies:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=isaias%201;&version=31;

Judaism has failed in bringing peace and security to the rest of the
world. Christianity was established as the only hope for mankind.
Laws, mandates and councils in the New Testament of the Holy Bible can
change the behavior of millions to live better, in peace and
harmony ...

http://es.geocities.com/eleazarcarvajal/sionismo.html

GREAT DESTRUCTION approaches, bad religions and evil sects or cults
are involved.
The Vatican, in Rome, will be destroyed first .... and after...
¡ BUM !, The Armagedon War.

Visit some times this link with secret info that you never saw:

http://group.google.com/group/religion-politica/topics
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Same-Sex Marriage WILL, Inevitably, Become Universally L Reply with quote

On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:06:53 GMT, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilt•n ¸.·´¯) •• NO
FACTS Support RRR Cult's Hate-Agendas! •• " <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
wrote:

Quote:
Without God in the picture, there is no marriage.

BULLCRAP!!!

The vast MAJORITY of married people on this planet had NO
involvement in that with the God that you and i believe in. So
your comment is either IGNORANT bullcrap, or LYING bullcrap,
or both.

With Earl Weber it is a true mixture of total stupidity with an innate
desire to lie to the world, even though he is too stupid to ever make
a good liar.

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Alan "Ferrit" Ferris

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Worst president Reply with quote

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 05:59:12 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

Quote:
Priority never closes an airspace, else there would not be a need for
priority as there would be no other aircraft in the airspace for it to
need priority over...DOH you are fucking thick.

No, stinky, **YOU** are the one that previously stated he got priority
clearance. It's not priority clearance, it's priority security. When AF1 is
approaching, departing and on the ground, airport flight operations are
suspended.

Indeed I did say that because the UK has never closed any airspace for
the president of the USA and will never do so either.

Check with the CAA .... oh you can't, you would have to admit your
lies.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Worst president Reply with quote

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 06:00:03 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

Quote:
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:36:23 +0000, Alan Ferris <hairy.ferrit@yahoo.co.uk
wrote:

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 07:13:50 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

And airport operations are stopped during landing, takeoff, and on the ground by
the SS - WHEN the President is on board - for security purposes. Once he leaves
the aircraft/grounds, the aircraft becomes tail number 28000. And what you saw
was tail number 28000, not AF1 - highly protected by armed military but not AF1.

I have never seen the aircraft you fucking twit. I just checked the
CAA logs for the airport..>DOH you just like to keep looking a twit.

And the logs say that flight operations on the airport were suspended when AF1
is approaching, departing, and on the ground.

No they did not as I have repeatedly stated. He was oven priority and
nothing else.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Worst president Reply with quote

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 06:02:59 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

Quote:
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:36:44 +0000, Alan Ferris <hairy.ferrit@yahoo.co.uk
wrote:

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 07:17:32 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

I am well aware of the aircraft used as AF1 and AF2.

And now you know that airport flight operations are suspended when AF1 is on the
ground. Security is of paramount importance for the President.

It might be to him, but not to us.

You don't get a vote.

But we do Duke, why do you think the UK gives a fuck what your
president wants? We set the security in this country not him.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:35 pm    Post subject: Re: TO --- All Not-Yet-Married Same-Sex Couples in Californi Reply with quote

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:59:06 -0800 (PST), --sexkitten--
<ladyhawk.two@gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Nov 20, 2:54 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:19:04 GMT, "(¯`·.¸  Craig Chilt•n  ¸.·´¯) •• NO FACTS
Support RRR Cult's Hate-Agendas! •• " <xanadu2...@mchsi.com> wrote:



 TO ALL NOT-YET-MARRIED SAME-SEX COUPLES IN CALIFORNIA

     If you fly to Mass. or Conn. and get married, here's a
suggestion for a bumper sticker for your cars when you get back:

            WE JUST GOT MARRIED IN NEW ENGLAND!
         SO YOU PROPOSITION-HATE BIGOTS **LOST!!
                  WE ARE MARRIED -- DESPITE YOU!!

No, not they're not.  It's a state thing, and not recognized in Calee-fornia.

I'm curious. When- not if, when- it becomes legal nationwide, what are
you going to do?

He will still not marry his boyfriend,


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