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The following GOOGLE Search was done on August 25, 2003 at 7:00 am CSDST:
http://www.google.com/search?as_q=Roy+Moore+Ten+Commandments+Alabama&num=10&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=Southern+Poverty+Law+Center&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&safe=images
Searched the web for Roy Moore Ten Commandments Alabama "Southern Poverty Law
Center". Results 1 - 10 of about 971

Special Note: The _Southern Poverty Law Center_ was used in the field: "Find
results with the exact phrase" at the main GOOGLE search link of:
http://www.google.com/advanced_search
Other _keywords were: "Roy Moore Ten Commandments Alabama" IOW The Southern
Poverty Law Center is "involved" in all of the 971 some odd returns!!

Sample returns gave links to the following cited documents:

http://www.msnbc.com/news/956599.asp?0sl=-10&cp1=1
(Link active August 25, 2003. Archived locally as: msnbc10sl)

Roy Moore’s Holy War

The ‘Ten Commandments judge’ always loves a fight

By Arian Campo-Flores
NEWSWEEK

Sept. 1 issue — Chief Justice Roy Moore of the Alabama Supreme Court remains
defiant even in defeat. For the past year he’s fought a lawsuit seeking the
removal of a two-ton Ten Commandments monument that he sneaked into the Alabama
Judicial Building in 2001.

<<Tavish comment August 25, 2003: Who filed the lawsuit to have the monument
removed? Southern Poverty Law Center which is a Jewish activist group!!>>

He flouted two federal court orders to dislodge the granite sculpture, until
last week, when he exhausted his appeals to block the injunctions and was
suspended by a state judicial ethics panel for his impudence—a move that could
result in his dismissal. His pugnacity—reminiscent of Alabama Gov. George
Wallace’s—only enhanced his heroic stature among the religious conservatives who
flocked to Montgomery. “He’s the Patrick Henry of 2003,” said Phil Faxton, a
preacher from Ohio who camped on the courthouse steps.
For Moore, 56, it’s a fitting culmination of a career marked by
controversy. Soon after his 1992 appointment as a circuit court judge in
Gadsden, Ala., Moore held prayers in his courtroom and adorned a wall with a
hand-carved plaque of the Ten Commandments. That prompted an unsuccessful 1994
suit that initiated his steady rise from obscurity to national renown. Along the
way, Moore has proved adept at garnering publicity as he cloaked himself in the
twin mantles of Christian conservatism and states’ rights. “Those are incredibly
popular themes in Alabama politics,” says Richard Cohen of the Southern Poverty
Law Center, which represented one of the plaintiffs in the most recent suit...

<END>

http://www.lafalce.com/library/freedom/2002-10-09_roy-moore.shtml
(Link active August 25, 20903. Archived locally as: lafalce_moore)

‘Ten Commandments’ Judge Set for Trial
Opponents of Roy Moore to characterize him as ‘religious nut’
By Tanya L. Green, J.D.
October 9, 2002
The trial against Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore is scheduled to begin on
October 15. The American Civil Liberties Union, Americans United for the
Separation of Church and State, and the Southern Poverty Law Center brought the
lawsuit because they want the Ten Commandments Memorial that Moore erected in
the rotunda of the state judicial building removed...

<<Tavish comment: beyond any doubt that the groups behind the lawsuit are:
"The American Civil Liberties Union, Americans United for the Separation of
Church and State, and the Southern Poverty Law Center" who are heavily
Jewish!!>>

The most egregious element of the current case is an inflammatory letter Morris
Dees, director of the Southern Poverty Law Center, wrote to fellow attorneys for
the plaintiffs. Mysteriously, this letter found its way to Moore’s attorneys. In
it, Dees calls Moore a “bigot” and “a lone religious nut in partnership with a
fanatical church.”

Moreover, Dees vows to “make this case so dirty that no appeals court will
reverse [U.S. District Judge Myron] Thompson.”... <END>

The above is from the Concerned Women for America web site.

Anyone researching the background of the three groups waging the lawsuit will
see those organizations are heavily staffed by Jews and Jewish attorneys.

BTW here is some info on Morris Dees, Founder of Southern Poverty Law Center:

IN THE ALABAMA COURT OF CIVIL APPEALS

MAUREENE BASS DEES )
)
Appellant, )
)
-vs- ) CASE NO. CIV. 2114
)
MORRIS S. DEES, )
)
Appellee. )

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ON APPEAL FROM THE CIRCUIT COURT OF
MONTGOMERY COUNTY, ALABAMA

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BRIEF OF APPELLANT
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MAURY SMITH
JULIA S. WATERS
CHARLES M. CROOK
Attorneys for the Appellant

OF COUNSEL:
SMITH, BOWMAN, THAGARD,
CROOK & CULPEPPER
P.O. Box 78
Montgomery, Al 36101
Telephone: (205) 834-6500

ORAL ARGUMENT REQUESTED
------------------------

TABLE OF CONTENTS
PAGE
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STATEMENT OF THE CASE ........................................ 4
THE ISSUES ................................................... 4
STATEMENT OF THE FACTS ....................................... 5

H. Morris' Sexual Appetite ............................... 12
F. Charlie Springman ................................. 14

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H. Morris' Sexual Appetite

Later in the marriage he repeatedly told [his wife] of
women that he had sexual intercourse with during the marriage (R. 354).
He said further that he enjoyed trying to turn on gay people and he
expressed a desire to have an experience with a gay (R. 354).
Early in the marriage, Morris gave [his wife] a book on "Open Marriage"
and started encouraging her to have sexual intercourse with other men
(R. 419-420). During the year or so after they were married, Maureene
became aware that her husband was having an affair with a woman name
Becky Logan (R. 458). During the same period, she began receiving
anonymous telephone calls concerning her husband and a black woman
in town (R. 459).
A. Dianne Hicks. In his deposition, Morris admits that in
the spring of 1973 (Morris depo. p. 27), or during the summer of
1973 (Morris depo. p. 25), he had an affair with Dianne Hicks, a
Mobile lawyer who was working for the Southern Poverty Law Center
(Morris depo. p. 25). He had sex with her during a canoe trip down
the Tallapoosa River (Morris depo. p.25), and also in Brewton where
they were working together on a trial (Morris depo. p. 26-27).
B. Cathy Bennett. in the fall of 1974, Morris brought to
the family home in Mathews a girl named Cathy Bennett who was a
psychologist who had worked with Morris on several cases (R. 284).
She stayed in their home in Mathews for about a week, during which
time they had Bobby Kennedy there as a guest (R. 285). Maureene was
suspicious of her husband's relationship with this girl (R. 286),
and later Morris admitted having an affair with her (R. 1325).
Morris told Mrs. Dees that his affair with her was over in December,
1974, But she later found that he and Cathy continued to conduct an
affair in Atlanta where Morris lived for a period during the Jimmy
Carter campaign (R. 287, 291).
C. Judith Rogers. in the fall of 1977 (R. 1344), Morris
and Maureene held a Little Theatre party at their home, attended by
Dr. Rogers, a Montgomery physician, and his wife Judith, who is a
criminal psychologist (R. 292, 1344, 1345). During the party Morris
admits that he took Judith into a back room of his house, while the
party was going on, and had intercourse with her (R. 1344, 293).
D. Deborah Levy. In the spring of 1976, Morris invited to
the house Deborah Levy who worked for the American Civil Liberties
Union in New York, and the man with whom she lived in New York,
Michael Gaas (R. 299, 303). The Southern Poverty Law Center was
considering starting a magazine in opposition to the death penalty,
and Morris was interviewing Deborah Levy for the job of running the
magazine (R. 301). She was not hired for the job, but she and her
boyfriend did visit the Dees home in Mathews for several days on two
different occasions (R. 301). in August, 1976, Morris and Maureene
took them on a canoe trip down the river (R. 202-203). After
supper, they had all gone to bed in sleeping bags, when Maureene
woke up and found Morris and Deborah naked, having sex on the
sandbar (R. 306). Morris turned to Maureene and insisted that she
have sex with the other man. (R. 306). Later Maureene went back to
sleep and woke up shortly before dawn, and found Morris and Deborah
having intercourse again right next to her (R. 307). While having
intercourse with Deborah, Morris leaned over and kissed Maureene (R.
308).

[...]

G. Morris' Step-Daughter. Holly Buck, Maureene's daughter
by a previous marriage, is eighteen years old (R. 728). She was
seven years old when her mother and Morris married, and she has
lived with them in the house at Mathews from then until the
separation (R. 728). Holly testified that, in the summer of 1977,
Morris attempted to molest her in the following incident (R. 729):
One night Maureene and Morris were sitting drinking wine and
discussing a case Morris was trying. She was with them. Around
eleven or twelve o'clock Maureene went to bed and Holly stayed up
with Morris discussing the case. Morris kept offering Holly wine,
some of which she accepted. At Morris' suggestion, they went
outside to the pool, and he suggested that they go for a swim, but
Holly was tired and declined (R. 731). She went to her room and
then went into the bathroom. Looking out the window, she saw Morris
in the bushes beside the bathroom window looking in (R. 731). She
said "Morris, is that you", but he said nothing and ran away (R.
732). Two months later, she was asleep one night and Morris entered
her room from Ellie's room, through the bathroom. He was in his
underwear and he sat on the bed where Holly was lying on her stomach
facing away from the door. He touched her on the back and woke her
up. He told her that he had brought her a present, and he presented
her with a vibrator. He plugged it in and said he had brought it to
her. He proceeded to rub it on her back and said, "Let me show you
how to use it" (R. 733). She said that's not necessary, but he
started to place it between her legs when she raised he voice and
said no loudly. He then took the vibrator and left (R. 734). All
he had on was a pair of bikini underwear shorts (R. 734). About two
hours later, she had fallen back asleep and he came back in (R.
735). He brought the vibrator with him, plugged it in and said
again, "Let me show you how to use it." He tried to show her again
by putting it between her legs, but she raised her voice again and
he stopped. He took it and left (R. 635). She did not tell her
mother about this incident until the separation when they moved out
of the Mathews house in the spring of 1979 (R. 736).

<<Tavish comment: Do the math-- Morris Dees' stepdaughter was under aged at the
time he made his molesting advances on her. If Holly Buck was 18 at the time of
the divorce then she was definitely under aged when Morris Dees tried to molest
her.>>

[...]

F. Charlie Springman (homosexual). On August 11, 1978,
Maureene and Morris' tenth anniversary, they were having dinner at
the Watergate Hotel in Washington, D.C., and afterward had drinks in
the bar (R. 333, et seq). In the bar, they saw Charlie Springman,
who Maureene knew as a Regional Coordinator for the National
Endowment of the Arts (R. 335). She had told Morris that Springman
was gay, but Morris had never met him. When they saw him in the
bar, Morris suggested inviting him over for a drink (R. 335). After
a while, to Maureene's surprise, Morris suggested that Charlie come
up to the room with them (R. 336). In the room, they drank wine and
talked, and Morris unbuttoned his shirt to the waist (R. 336).
Charlie tried to leave several times but Morris wouldn't let him (R.
337). Finally Morris proposed that Charlie spend the night with
them (R. 337). Mrs. Dees protested, and put on her robe and
nightgown to go to bed (R. 337-338). Soon Charlie and Morris were
in the bed naked, with Maureene in the middle with her gown on (R.
338-339). Springman and Morris hugged and kissed, and Morris tried
to get Charlie to have relations with Maureene, but Springman was
physically unable to because he was not interested (R. 340). In
fact, no one made any effort to have sex with Mrs. Dees during this
incident (R. 341). Springman kissed Morris' penis, and in fact,
Morris complained that he bit him and that it hurt (R. 340). Morris
kissed Springman on Springman's penis (R. 341).

<END>

Thus the man who is part of the assault on religious freedom is a perverted
adulterer!

More on Jews and their assaults against Christianity and its adherents:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=35677ad7.14915461%40news.tavish-central.net&rnum=3
Subject: It Was Jews That Pushed to Have Crosses Removed From Florida Roadsides!
Jews Object to Christian Symbols!
Date: 1998/05/24
Message-ID: <35677ad7.14915461@news.tavish-central.net>

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=tcriiv8rjih6gl667rnufsv57p2a9ojrih%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: ADL Welcomes Decision Barring Bible Story in Elementary School Class
-(IN THEIR OWN VILE WORDS!)-- R_0731
Message-ID: <tcriiv8rjih6gl667rnufsv57p2a9ojrih@4ax.com>
Date: 31 Jul 2003 19:22:02 GMT

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=8sb4g401u99%40news2.newsguy.com&rnum=5
Subject: "They displease God and are hostile to all men." Who Are THEY?
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 02:25:22 GMT
Message-ID: <8sb4g401u99@news2.newsguy.com>
(Excerpt)

1 Thessalonians 2:14,15 (English-NIV):
14 For you, brothers, became imitators of God's churches in Judea,
which are in Christ Jesus: You suffered from your own countrymen the
same things those churches suffered from the Jews,
15 who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out.
They displease God and are hostile to all men.

Notice the fine points made by the Apostle Paul in this little bit of
scripture!

He brought out in two verses:
1) " those churches suffered from the Jews" Those sweet harmless
little Jews were committing "hate crimes" against Christians!
2) "They displease God.." The Temple is still in ruins as a testament
to that fact! Undeniable wouldn't you say? And last BUT certainly not
least by any stretch of the imagination:
3) "They (Jews) are hostile to all men."

http://www.jdl.org/news/news.html
(Link active September 16, 2000) <Now Dead>
New link effective August 25, 2003:
http://www.jdl.org/news/index.shtml#Anchor-Burbank-Trial
(Archived locall=y as: jdl_Anti-Christ)

News

Prayer Lawsuit Goes to Trial

Posted August 8, 2000

Superior Court judge rejects Burbank's request to dismiss the case.

By PAUL CLINTON

DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES - Jewish activist Irv Rubin has won the first round
of his fight to stop Burbank City Council invocations that include
references to Jesus.

At a Thursday hearing, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Alexander H.
Williams rejected Burbank's request to toss out Rubin's Dec. 20 lawsuit
against the city. Williams, who also moved the lawsuit's trial date from
Sept 15 to Nov. 3, said Rubin had good cause to object to the invocation
at a Nov. 23 meeting that he attended. Rubin, a national chairman of the
Jewish Defense League, has said he was offended by a Mormon pastor's
reference to Christ because it was an endorsement of one religion,
Christianity, over others. "I'm inclined to agree with the plaintiff,"
Williams said, shortly after a tape of the Nov. 23 meeting was replayed in
the courtroom. "The invocation as offered here is sectarian."

Williams, however, said he will keep an open mind during the non-jury
trial. Rubin, who is joined in his lawsuit by co-plaintiff Alejandro
Gandara, was ecstatic as he left the courtroom.

"I think it's a tremendous victory," Rubin said in the court building
hallway. "I think we're in good shape legally and morally." Burbank
officials have defended the invocation because the city doesn't dictate
who delivers it or what is said. That job is left to the
multidenominational Burbank Ministerial Assn., which has extended
an invitation to all religious leaders, officials said.

Chief Assistant City Attorney Juli Scott, who will be trying the case for
the city, said she would try to convince Williams that the city isn't
violating the 1st Amendment's establishment clause, which calls for the
separation of church and state.

"I'm disappointed, but I'm not at all defeated," Scott said after the
hearing. "The law is very clear. It supports our position." Roger Jon
Diamond, Rubin's Santa Monica-based attorney, said Burbank's invocations
would be acceptable if pastors didn't refer to Christ. "You cross the line
when you invoke the name of Jesus Christ," Diamond said. <END>

~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

A little more on the anti-Christ mentioned above from his own web site showing
his agenda:
http://www.jdl.org/action/action/councils.shtml
(Archived locally as: jdl_agenda)
"The Jewish Defense League is taking action to insure that the First Amendment
of the Constitution will remain intact and will not be subjected to those
politicians who want to Christianize this country... It has come to JDL's
attention that city council members from across Southern California -- and
probably around the country -- are praying to Jesus at their meetings, usually
before any business is done. JDL has been asked by many citizens to attend
council meetings and speak out against this violation of church and state...
The most obnoxious action came from "beautiful downtown Burbank," the home of
Disney Studios and NBC. Not only did they pray to Jesus during the invocation,
they then brought on a group of Burbank High School students to sing the deeply
religious Christmas carol "Silent Night." This was followed by "Deck the Halls."
These two carols remind every Jew that Christianity considers us a second-class
religion because we do not believe that Jesus was the messiah/G-d..."

As for anti-Christ Irv Rubin's remark: "Not only did they pray to Jesus during
the invocation, they then brought on a group of Burbank High School students to
sing the deeply religious Christmas carol "Silent Night." This was followed by
"Deck the Halls." These two carols remind every Jew that Christianity considers
us a second-class religion because we do not believe that Jesus was the
messiah/G-d..." Irv's fellow Pharisees and anti-Christs (ADL) have done this
concerning Christmas:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=d537tsk1kjrdqoq0f3tg53tkr04np1dmjt%404ax.com&rnum=2
Subject: The Grinches Who Would Steal Christmas (Hostile anti-Christ Aliens
Attack) [In Their Own Words Series]
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 13:26:44 -0500
Message-ID: <d537tsk1kjrdqoq0f3tg53tkr04np1dmjt@4ax.com>

Get this into your heads Church Goers-- THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A
JUDEO-CHRISTIAN ALLIANCE!!! Jews have been anti-Christ since day one!
Your misguided thinking into believing they are allied with you is
how they are undermining your faith! You fail to realize who is assaulting
you and the Pharisees take advantage of your duped ignorance! You all should
read what is contained in this archive and get the sense of it!

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=upe9kvor1pdvm2ifa8sfa0qfboa6ull055%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Comparing Israel's "Anti-Christ Activism" to Other Middle East Nations
is NOT a Valid Comparison V2.5 R_0821
Message-ID: <upe9kvor1pdvm2ifa8sfa0qfboa6ull055@4ax.com>
Date: 21 Aug 2003 12:22:34 GMT

You all should stop bringing shame upon the true Christians of the 1st Century
who suffered at the hands of the forefathers of the people you ignorantly adore
and revere today. Not seeing the Children of the Devil and Anti-Christs makes
you a servile helot to their agenda. Pharisaic Jews are NOT your friends and NOT
all Jews are Pharisaic BUT the majority of them are.

More to come and this very post will have many version changes.

Tavish

How First Century Christianity Was Treated by Jews:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=711ucv8tmute29h3gdcgds6ajmd7eekovr%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: The Most Heinous Murder Plot Ever Devised (For Your Archives &
Research) V2 R_0524
Message-ID: <711ucv8tmute29h3gdcgds6ajmd7eekovr@4ax.com>
Date: 24 May 2003 05:30:10 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=k11ucvc1j4hl6s7av6qpr9882esa96oaav%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Babylon the Great - Religious Persecution, Torture, Harassment R_0524
Message-ID: <k11ucvc1j4hl6s7av6qpr9882esa96oaav@4ax.com>
Date: 24 May 2003 05:30:17 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=i31ucv4nvr6ehh6r2jgq8d7orrpfhm3j09%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: The Apostle Paul on Judaized Jews R_0524
Message-ID: <i31ucv4nvr6ehh6r2jgq8d7orrpfhm3j09@4ax.com>
Date: 24 May 2003 05:30:25 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=vd01cvsh9ta3ep7b3crfru9ce2rb0snnls%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Children of the Devil and Anti-Christ[s] Positively Identified Using
Scripture-- Check The Proofs For Yourselves! V2.0
Message-ID: <vd01cvsh9ta3ep7b3crfru9ce2rb0snnls@4ax.com>
Date: 13 May 2003 05:29:00 GMT

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=1ioifv01joma9fjqpa361host2smg0un2n%404ax.com&rnum=2
Subject: Today's Judaism is the Same Stuff Jesus Condemned ~2000 Years Ago
(Which Has Had Some Additions Made Since Then) V3.0 R_0625
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 03:51:27 -0500
Message-ID: <1ioifv01joma9fjqpa361host2smg0un2n@4ax.com>

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