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"•R. L. Measures" <r@somis.org> wrote in message
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jrobertm@terra.com.br> wrote:
•R. L. Measures wrote:
In article <B86dnV9ENMresTXVnZ2dnUVZ_tninZ2d@giganews.com>, John
Manning
jrobertm@terra.com.br> wrote:
•R. L. Measures wrote:
In article <97OdnRN9rdrqCDrVnZ2dnUVZ_tninZ2d@comcast.com>, Kevin Z
k.zoellner@comcast.net> wrote:
OK...
I listen to Rush Regular. Obviously you and Olberman don't.
Rush was being sarcastic. I have never heard him put the blame
anywhere
but where it belongs. With Edwards himself.
KevinZ
• a dittohead
Just like in Kevin's Mormon church where you are required to obey the
church 'authorities' - "The thinking has been done."
• This is ideal for those feeble or confused souls who are looking for
guidance.
"Any Latter-day Saint who denounces or opposes, whether actively or
otherwise, any plan or doctrine advocated by the prophets, seers, and
revelators of the Church is cultivating the spirit of apostasy.
Lucifer
wins a great victory when he can get members of the LDS Church to
speak
against their leaders and to do their own thinking.
When our leaders speak, the thinking has been done. When they propose
a
plan - it is God's plan. When they point the way, there is no other
which is safe. When they give direction, it should mark the end of
controversy."
~~ The Improvement Era, June 1945, page 354, which was most likely
authored by Joseph Fielding Smith, senior member of the Twelve. Also
see Deseret News , Church Section, Page 5, May 26, 1945.
"Now that I look back, I realize that a life predicated on being
obedient and taking orders is a very comfortable life indeed. Living
in
such a way reduces to a minimum one's need to think."
~~ Adolf Eichmann, one of the architects of the Nazi holocaust
** The master architect of the genocide of WW-II was Reinhard
Heydrich, a
man who was widely feared by the SS - and for good reason. Eichmann's
role was mainly managerial.
"It has always seemed absurd to suppose that a god would choose for
his
companions, during all eternity, the dear souls whose highest and only
ambition is to obey."
• if God likes kiss-asses, sycophants, and yes-men, I'm SOL for damn
sure
John.
My guess would be that He'd smile approvingly at that comment.
• Of course, if "prophet" Smith was right in that God was once a man,
then it is possible that He has human traits like narcissisism, jealousy,
megalomania, paranoia, chickenshittedness, multiple personality disorder,
on and on and on.
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Jake Horn
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:46 am Post subject: Re: Paris Hilton energy plan |
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"In reality, Paris Hilton may have a more substantive energy policy
than Barack Obama."
That doesn't take much.
- Jake
Lol. You're awesome. I say just let big oil drain the earth and we'll
think about other energy sources when we "really" need to. Good grief.
I'm not saying drain the earth, that is a typical Liberal distortion, as
that will happen regardless of when we go use our own oil.
"Liberal distortion"? You can't be serious. I'm a financial conservative
who thinks the republican party has lost it's way.
What conservatives are saying is that we have the oil to use while
developing and implimenting alternative energy solutions. Why put endless
people out of work and drag the economy down when the solutions are there
and we have the oil reserves to last a long time?
Do you propose that we never use our resources?
Of course not, but I think as long as the oil companies do not have an
incentive to change they won't. I will claim ignorance here since I have
not taken the time to look it up, but are there any large oil companies
that spend as much or just a little less on R&D as they do on exploration?
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I don't know the answer to that either. A friend of mine was on the ground
floor of a starup oil company that dosen't do drilling but provides services
to the larger oil companies. He explains it like this. Oil companies are
obligated by their owners, (or shareholders) to run their business in an
efficient and productive way in the short term and the best they can
predict, for the long term.
When the oil companies were quizzed about their earnings of $1400/minute of
profit, by congress, they explained that in that same minute, they paid
$4500 in taxes and another $15,000 just to keep the business running. So,
spending money on IR&D and exploraton is a basic economic trade between
expendature and return on investment. So, if in fact oil companies find it
difficult to build refineries, explore for more oil due to government
regulations and evnirnomental groups, then it becomes difficult to justify
spending years of planning and in some cases building a facililty just to
have some judge stop the operation from a lawsuit. There are places that
oil can be drilled from leased land, but not feasable due to the risk and
the quality of the oil. There is nothing different about how an oil company
operates from most other businesses. Much IR&D has been spent on finding
ways of refining sour crude, so oil that is now prohibitive to drill will be
in the future - if refineries can be built to process it.
If Obama raises the taxes on oil companies, it will be passed on to the
consumer, just like the minimum wage increase causes a rise in prices or
employees loosing their jobs. Our govenment makes much more on a barrel of
oil than the oil companies do, and the more they take the more expensive it
get for the consumer. It is just another way to get taxes and make the
people feel good about it because they think it came from an oil company.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:51 am Post subject: Re: VIDEO: Limbaugh slammed after blaming Elizabeth Edwards |
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On Aug 17, 8:48 am, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
| Quote: | •R. L. Measures wrote:
In article <97OdnRN9rdrqCDrVnZ2dnUVZ_tnin...@comcast.com>, Kevin Z
k.zoell...@comcast.net> wrote:
OK...
I listen to Rush Regular. Obviously you and Olberman don't.
Rush was being sarcastic. I have never heard him put the blame anywhere
but where it belongs. With Edwards himself.
KevinZ
• a dittohead
Just like in Kevin's Mormon church where you are required to obey the
church 'authorities' - "The thinking has been done."
"Any Latter-day Saint who denounces or opposes, whether actively or
otherwise, any plan or doctrine advocated by the prophets, seers, and
revelators of the Church is cultivating the spirit of apostasy.
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The Mormons call people they hate "apostates." Liberals call people
they hate "bigots," and a lot of other charitable names. That said, I
think you will find that the Mormons identify much fewer people as
apostates than liberals do as bigots. That must mean that liberals
hate more people than Mormons do. Lots more.
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Raleigh
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:52 am Post subject: Re: VIDEO: Limbaugh slammed after blaming Elizabeth Edwards |
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On Aug 17, 5:12 pm, r...@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:
| Quote: | In article <B86dnV9ENMresTXVnZ2dnUVZ_tnin...@giganews.com>, John Manning
jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
•R. L. Measures wrote:
In article <97OdnRN9rdrqCDrVnZ2dnUVZ_tnin...@comcast.com>, Kevin Z
k.zoell...@comcast.net> wrote:
OK...
I listen to Rush Regular. Obviously you and Olberman don't.
Rush was being sarcastic. I have never heard him put the blame anywhere
but where it belongs. With Edwards himself.
KevinZ
• a dittohead
Just like in Kevin's Mormon church where you are required to obey the
church 'authorities' - "The thinking has been done."
• This is ideal for those feeble or confused souls who are looking for
guidance.
"Any Latter-day Saint who denounces or opposes, whether actively or
otherwise, any plan or doctrine advocated by the prophets, seers, and
revelators of the Church is cultivating the spirit of apostasy. Lucifer
wins a great victory when he can get members of the LDS Church to speak
against their leaders and to do their own thinking.
When our leaders speak, the thinking has been done. When they propose a
plan - it is God's plan. When they point the way, there is no other
which is safe. When they give direction, it should mark the end of
controversy."
~~ The Improvement Era, June 1945, page 354, which was most likely
authored by Joseph Fielding Smith, senior member of the Twelve. Also
see Deseret News , Church Section, Page 5, May 26, 1945.
"Now that I look back, I realize that a life predicated on being
obedient and taking orders is a very comfortable life indeed. Living in
such a way reduces to a minimum one's need to think."
~~ Adolf Eichmann, one of the architects of the Nazi holocaust
** The master architect of the genocide of WW-II was Reinhard Heydrich, a
man who was widely feared by the SS - and for good reason. Eichmann's
role was mainly managerial.
"It has always seemed absurd to suppose that a god would choose for his
companions, during all eternity, the dear souls whose highest and only
ambition is to obey."
• if God likes kiss-asses, sycophants, and yes-men, I'm SOL for damn sure
John.
~~ Robert Green Ingersoll (1833 - 1899), lawyer and orator
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
~~ Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from
religious conviction."
~~ Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)
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John Manning has offered me spiritual guidance on many occasions. He
finds that I am in need of it anytime that I dieagree with him. That's
sort of like what happens to Mormons when they think on their own.
Manning does not mind for the thinking to be done in advance. He just
insists that he be the one to do it.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:59 am Post subject: Re: 75 percent of Americans support gays serving openly in t |
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On Aug 18, 12:39 pm, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
| Quote: | In article <e2f0e88f-3753-4b6b-9c6b-7d9f39469...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> Raleigh <graleigh...@cs.com> writes:
On Aug 17, 8:00=A0am, "thomas p." <gudl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Raleigh" <graleigh...@cs.com> skrev i en meddelelsenews:d976d51c-a184-42> > 75-be1b-1807f62a6...@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 15, 3:23 pm, "thomas p." <gudl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Raleigh" <graleigh...@cs.com> skrev i en
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On Aug 14, 2:30 pm, SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net> wrote:
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net
Interesting credentials. Isn't cat-herding like pandering? I'm just
curious.
Raleigh
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thomas
You were just trying to be insulting. It was totally lacking in any
substance, which is quite consistent with your non-argument against
homosexuality.
It does indicate why I am not impressed with the credentials of the
know-it-alls here. Dr. Demento has similar credentials.
Raleigh
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Does a person who proclaims himself a herder of cats expect to be
refuted? Just curious.
Raleigh
Has the Empire set up a Whimsy Embargo on your home planet,
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Hey, I'm not the cat herder. In conversations so deadly serious that
people call each other "bigots" "perverts," "apostates," "out for
blood fundies," and all sorts of other evil epithets, whimsy would
seem out of place and clueless, no?
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:04 pm Post subject: Re: 75 percent of Americans support gays serving openly in t |
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On Aug 18, 11:48 am, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
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On Aug 15, 1:32=A0pm, c...@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <ec6f1887-1b5b-41a4-ab02-67e944ea0...@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups> > .com> SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net> writes:
On Aug 15, 4:45=3DA0am, Raleigh <graleigh...@cs.com> wrote:
On Aug 14, 2:30=3DA0pm, SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net> wrote:
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net
Interesting credentials. Isn't cat-herding like pandering? I'm just
curious.
No. =A0It's like trying to teach to all you invincibly ignorant theists
to think and reason. Except that rounding up cats and making them all
walk in the same direction at the same time is infinitely easier.
I suspect he meant panda-ing. =A0Extremely difficult: you
try hiting them with the bamboo switch, they just eat it.
-- cary
Yes. Anyone who compares educational opportunities for humans to
herding cats has little or no respect for human beings.
And you are somehow of the impression that every poster on
Usenet who has acannedsigintends thatauto-sigto apply
specifically to every single post she replies to?
If so then.....welcoome to Usenet!! We realize it's your first
day, but don't worry -- we have much to teach you.
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Au contaire, my catherdess. I have been on usenet since the days when
auto-sigs were banned to save band width. Apparently broadband is like
the cellphone. It just offers people such as yourself more
opportunities to show what twits they are.
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\"john p\"
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:11 pm Post subject: Re: 75 percent of Americans support gays serving openly in t |
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On Aug 19, 5:04 am, Diana <diana...@notachance.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:55:46 -0700 (PDT), Raleigh <graleigh...@cs.com
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On Aug 16, 10:44 am, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
Diana wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:23:30 -0700, DanielSan
daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
Diana wrote:
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:22:03 -0700, DanielSan
daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
Diana wrote:
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:50:27 -0700, DanielSan
daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
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Ah...a true scott? A TRUE atheist wouldn't do those sorts of things?
I didn't say that atheists could not be antitheistic. I am saying that
antitheism is not a property of atheism.
The problem is, sir, that while not all atheists are anti-theists, all
anti-theists are atheists.
Nope. I have a long list of antitheistic theists. At the top of the
list is Ann Coulter.
Sorry, no. An anti-theist is against ALL theism.
Not necessarily.
A theist who is
against every OTHER brand of theism is something else.
And what is that "something else"?
....generally someone who posts attack spam on religious newsgroups.
Seriously, a theist who is against every other brand of theism but his
or her own is very busy. They have to be anti- every specific group
out there.
How about just one specific form?
Then the proper term is 'anti-that one specific form.'
The anti-Mormons who post in here are generally not anti-Baptist, or
anti-Lutheran, or anti--a whole bunch of other belief systems. They
are anti-Mormons. To call them anti-theist would be incorrect. They
are just anti- our form of theism.
I am interested
in knowing why you think that Ann Coulter is one?
http://www.nationalreview.com/coulter/coulter.shtml
"We should invade [Muslim] countries, kill their leaders and convert
them to Christianity."
How nice of you to give us the context, from which the above quote is
taken egregiously out of context.
9/11 had just happened. Anne was not being anti-theist. She was being
anti-the specific theists who supported, enabled and encouraged the
fanatics who drove the airliners into the twin towers and the
Pentagon, whose avowed aim was to invade us, kill our leaders and
civilians...and make us a Muslim (their specific brand of it) world.
She wasn't anti-theist. She was anti-fundamentalist Muslim
terrorist--reacting to something THEY did to US.
Not quite the same thing.
And you are incredibly dishonest to claim it is.
No, that's you. She wasn't anti-those-guys. She was (and still is)
anti-Muslim.
Then she is anti-Muslim.
Not anti-theist.
What is an anti-Mormon?
The word "anti-Mormon" is what's called a "thought-terminating cliché,"
or in other words, an Orwellian "newspeak" term. The purposeful use of
a word like this is a subtle brainwashing (or "conditioning," if
"brainwashing" is too strong of an expression) technique.
By arbitrarily branding all so-called "opponents" with a word
specifically designed to create a mental aversion, the leadership of an
organization cues their membership to subconsciously censor themselves
every time they use the word.
The word "bigot" serves a similar purpose to the leftwing crowd.
This is a common tactic....
Raleigh
Actually, the term 'anti-Mormon" requires more than simple disbelief
in Mormonism. It requires more than simple criticism. One can disagree
with Mormon doctrine or practices without being an 'anti,' at least in
my book.
In order to be an anti-Mormon, one must be rude about it,
disrespectful, not only of the beliefs, but of the people holding
them. One must be actively engaged in opposing both, and (this is the
real defining element) willing to misrepresent, lie about, harrass and
demean both Mormons and Mormonism.
Anti-Mormons lie. Anti-Mormons picket and block the way into meetings.
Anti-Mormons publish misinformation about the church and the people.
They don't do all these things because they are anti-Mormon. They are
anti-Mormon when they do these things. There is a difference.
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On Aug 19, 7:59 am, Diana <diana...@notachance.com> wrote:
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Then you claim that a descriptive approach to a dictionary is better
than a prescriptive one.
_Liar_. Go back up the thread, and show me by quoting where
I said anything like that. What a big fat liar.
What are you, twelve?
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That doesn't answer the question. Go back up the thread.
Quote anything I said like that would support this lie.
You misrepresented my argument.
Very probably purposely.
It is a straw man from a straw woman.
But you won't take the challenge to simply read
above in the thread and post a quotation of anywhere
I said that I prefer descriptive to prescriptive.
In short, you did lie, and I caught you on it.
And you have no answer.
Go ahead, it's easy enough to do: simply
read above in the thread and quote where
I said I prefer one to the other. Do it now
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In article <3_OdnaLQuOBOsDfVnZ2dnUVZ_sninZ2d@comcast.com>, "Jake Horn"
<Jake.Horn.52@Gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "•R. L. Measures" <r@somis.org> wrote in message
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In article <zOGdneoIb8JvMTXVnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@giganews.com>, John Manning
jrobertm@terra.com.br> wrote:
•R. L. Measures wrote:
In article <B86dnV9ENMresTXVnZ2dnUVZ_tninZ2d@giganews.com>, John
Manning
jrobertm@terra.com.br> wrote:
•R. L. Measures wrote:
In article <97OdnRN9rdrqCDrVnZ2dnUVZ_tninZ2d@comcast.com>, Kevin Z
k.zoellner@comcast.net> wrote:
OK...
I listen to Rush Regular. Obviously you and Olberman don't.
Rush was being sarcastic. I have never heard him put the blame
anywhere
but where it belongs. With Edwards himself.
KevinZ
• a dittohead
Just like in Kevin's Mormon church where you are required to obey the
church 'authorities' - "The thinking has been done."
• This is ideal for those feeble or confused souls who are looking for
guidance.
"Any Latter-day Saint who denounces or opposes, whether actively or
otherwise, any plan or doctrine advocated by the prophets, seers, and
revelators of the Church is cultivating the spirit of apostasy.
Lucifer
wins a great victory when he can get members of the LDS Church to
speak
against their leaders and to do their own thinking.
When our leaders speak, the thinking has been done. When they propose
a
plan - it is God's plan. When they point the way, there is no other
which is safe. When they give direction, it should mark the end of
controversy."
~~ The Improvement Era, June 1945, page 354, which was most likely
authored by Joseph Fielding Smith, senior member of the Twelve. Also
see Deseret News , Church Section, Page 5, May 26, 1945.
"Now that I look back, I realize that a life predicated on being
obedient and taking orders is a very comfortable life indeed. Living
in
such a way reduces to a minimum one's need to think."
~~ Adolf Eichmann, one of the architects of the Nazi holocaust
** The master architect of the genocide of WW-II was Reinhard
Heydrich, a
man who was widely feared by the SS - and for good reason. Eichmann's
role was mainly managerial.
"It has always seemed absurd to suppose that a god would choose for
his
companions, during all eternity, the dear souls whose highest and only
ambition is to obey."
• if God likes kiss-asses, sycophants, and yes-men, I'm SOL for damn
sure
John.
My guess would be that He'd smile approvingly at that comment.
• Of course, if "prophet" Smith was right in that God was once a man,
then it is possible that He has human traits like narcissisism, jealousy,
megalomania, paranoia, chickenshittedness, multiple personality disorder,
on and on and on.
Don't forget his own peep-stone.
• Ah yes, and the sayings "as phony as a $3-bill and "he's talking |
through his hat".
cheers Jake.
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In article <5s8ka4h563aptttqab120v0gl5d3f5pt4k@4ax.com>, Diana
<dianaiad@notachance.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:17:57 -0700, r@somis.org (•R. L. Measures)
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In article <6gria4d2fs1tp09pahusgi486n2p81d3uu@4ax.com>, Diana
dianaiad@notachance.com> wrote:
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 02:09:31 -0700, r@somis.org (•R. L. Measures)
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• At the time, Baptist ministers were preaching that God intended for
niggers to be slaves for good white folks.
"Concecrating" - i. e., stealing - food and valuables in the
wee hours
from neighboring farms at the direction of "prophet" Smith did not
friendly neighbors make.
Except of course that did not happen.
• enough
Sources, please.
• The exploits of Smith's Danite Band are documented on the Internet.
Oh, THANK you.
But you know better than that, Rich.
Sources, please.
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• John Manning presented them here. Thanks John.
Is Diana blinded by the promise of becoming a Goddess in the Celestial
Impregnatorium?
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On Aug 15, 7:42 pm, "Jake Horn" <Jake.Horn...@Gmail.com> wrote:
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Scientists hunting for dinosaur bones in the Sahara have stumbled on an
extraordinary discovery: a huge cemetery containing some 200 graves.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=93597190
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Just James
"Buried in those graves are the remains of people who lived there as long
as
10,000 years ago, when this region - the Tenere Desert in Niger - was
green
and graced with large, deep lakes filled with perch 6 feet long."
They didn't have cars oil tankers, trains or boats that used CO2.
What do you suppose they did to the environment to cause it to turn to
desert?
Nothing. But I hope you are not suggesting that because environmental
disruptions can happen naturally humanity shouldn't worry about
causing or contributing to extra ones. That would be as stupid as
lighting a match to your house and then justifying the action because
lightning sometimes sets structures on fire.
What I am suggesting is that since there are natural occurances of drastic
envirnoment changes, there is no reason to assume that what we are seeing
now, (assuming we are actually experiencing warming that is claimed) is
nothing new, it has happened before and we shouldn't get all upset over
something we can't do anything about anyway - even if we were causing it.
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I know that's what you are suggesting, but it's completely bogus
reasoning. It's like saying that because we know houses can be struck
by lightning and burn to the ground we should always assume that's the
case, and that people never burn their houses to the ground by falling
asleep while smoking cigarettes.
But that ludicrous. Just because something happens and has happened
in the past due to natural causes doesn't mean that the same thing (or
something similar to it) can't happen because of man-made causes.
It's just bogus reasoning.
Furthermore, your bogus reasoning rejects/ignores the very sound
science that suggests that people *are* contributing to global
warming. For example, it ignores the correlation between atmospheric
CO2 and temperature and the measured increase in atmospheric CO2
caused by people.
In fact, your reasoning ignores the *fact* of greenhouse warming (it
happens all the time on every planet with an atmosphere) and relies on
the absurd assertion that people are not making substantial changes in
the atmosphere.
| Quote: | By the way, 10,000 years is several thousand more than the age of man,
according to Joseph Smith, founder of the Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-day Saints.
Since I believe JS "created" his church: out of nothingness, except a
manuscript that was a novel written by a dead pastor, I have no axe to
grind with you there.
However, I have no idea how old the earth is or how it was created, but this
I do know: God created it.
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How do you know "god" created it?
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Duwayne Anderson
Author of "Farewell to Eden: Coming to terms with Mormonism and
science"
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On Aug 18, 4:34 pm, "J O S H U A <'}}><" <josha70...@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 07:09:41 -0700 (PDT), Duwaynea Anderson
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| Quote: | I find it interesting how quickly narcissistic people throw their
god(s) under the bus in an effort to protect themselves.
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Duwayne Anderson
Author of "Farewell to Eden: Coming to terms with Mormonism and
science"
American Quarter Horse: The ultimate all-terrain vehicle
Mr. Anderson, it not the same in my case,
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It sure looks that way. First, you issue a totally false prophecy:
"What will happen on Sunday April 20th, 2008, is an atomic weapon
going off. It's the "pillar of smoke" that the prophet Joel predicted.
I only saw it in vision. [Joshua the false prophet on April 17]
Then, after making your false prophecy, you tried to blame it on god:
"....what I am saying is that God lead me by inspiration to believe it
was going to happen in order to protect me." [Joshua the false prophet
on August 15]
I find it interesting how quickly narcissistic people throw their
god(s) under the bus in an effort to protect themselves.
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Author of "Farewell to Eden: Coming to terms with Mormonism and
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Duwaynea Anderson
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:51 pm Post subject: Re: The Oracle Joshua was right! Georgia Asks China for Help |
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On Aug 18, 5:53 pm, "J O S H U A <'}}><" <josha70...@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On 18 Aug 2008 17:10:15 -0700, A.G.O.G. <A.G.O.G._mem...@newsguy.com
wrote:
In article <suuja4tisfd782qa5j1i1i44a18fjgt...@4ax.com>, J O S H U A <'}}
says...
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 07:09:41 -0700 (PDT), Duwaynea Anderson
DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 15, 5:42 am, joshua70...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:27:27 -0700 (PDT), Duwaynea Anderson
DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com> wrote:
(You are saying that you wrote a false prophecy to protect yourself
and that your false prophecy really shows how inspired you are?)
No, what I am saying is that God lead me by inspiration to believe it
was going to happen in order to protect me.
God lied to you, to protect you?
This reminds me of the argument used by many Mormons to justify their
racism -- they tell folk that Mormons didn't want to practice racism,
but they felt obligated to do it because they thought god wanted them
to.
I find it interesting how quickly narcissistic people throw their
god(s) under the bus in an effort to protect themselves.
snip to end
Duwayne Anderson
Author of "Farewell to Eden: Coming to terms with Mormonism and
science"
American Quarter Horse: The ultimate all-terrain vehicle
[here is the corrections I made to this post]
Mr. Anderson, it not the same in my case,
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It sure looks that way. First, you issue a totally false prophecy:
"What will happen on Sunday April 20th, 2008, is an atomic weapon
going off. It's the "pillar of smoke" that the prophet Joel predicted.
I only saw it in vision. [Joshua the false prophet on April 17]
Then, after making your false prophecy, you tried to blame it on god:
"....what I am saying is that God lead me by inspiration to believe it
was going to happen in order to protect me." [Joshua the false prophet
on August 15]
I find it interesting how quickly narcissistic people throw their
god(s) under the bus in an effort to protect themselves.
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Duwayne Anderson
Author of "Farewell to Eden: Coming to terms with Mormonism and
science"
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thomas p.
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"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> skrev i en meddelelse
news:g8c8qr$392$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
| Quote: | In article "thomas p." <gudloos@yahoo.com> writes:
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| Quote: | The three of them believe that what they say is automatically true and
that
it is rude to ask them for evidence. Their evasion styles differ
slightly.
Actually, I'd lay odds -- as I've implied already -- that the three
of them are actually the one of them.
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playing such games. To me it is an admission that one's position is
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modematic
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:54 pm Post subject: Re: 75 percent of Americans support gays serving openly in t |
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On Aug 19, 10:26 am, "thomas p." <gudl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "modematic" <modema...@operamail.com> skrev i en meddelelsenews:d70985ec-4386-4586-bd78-435699d72019@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 19, 7:59 am, Diana <diana...@notachance.com> wrote:
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:16:50 -0700 (PDT), modematic
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Then you claim that a descriptive approach to a dictionary is better
than a prescriptive one.
_Liar_. Go back up the thread, and show me by quoting where
I said anything like that. What a big fat liar.
What are you, twelve?
That doesn't answer the question. Go back up the thread.
Quote anything I said like that would support this lie.
You misrepresented my argument.
Very probably purposely.
It is a straw man from a straw woman.
But you won't take the challenge to simply read
above in the thread and post a quotation of anywhere
I said that I prefer descriptive to prescriptive.
In short, you did lie, and I caught you on it.
And you have no answer.
Go ahead, it's easy enough to do: simply
read above in the thread and quote where
I said I prefer one to the other. Do it now
for all to see.
Or admit you lied.
What will she do!? The excitement mounts!
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The smoke from that burning straw man must
be slowing her down. Or maybe school is starting
tomorrow. Or maybe she wants me to pursue the
arguments at the bottom of her post, which I'm
perfectly willing to do once we get this lie
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