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Mistylein
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 Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: The Future |
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"Meteorite Debris" <epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au> wrote in message
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Last time that great scribe vivapadrepio@aol.com <vivapadrepio@aol.com>
chipped away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
| Quote: | On Nov 12, 7:34ï¿=3Fpm, gw...@mail.com wrote:
Does the Bible say anything about what God knows about the future?
Does God know exactly how things are going to go?
Yes.
The prophetic books in the Bible deals with future events. The Bible
is God's word, not man's.
God is the future. He is the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and
the end.
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Which doesn't explain the many unfulfilled prophesies in the bible. Like
Egypt was going to be deserted for 40 years. Never happened. Like
Nebuchadnezzar would conquer Tyre and Egypt. Never Happened. Like Edom
(Jordan) was going to turn into a land of fire. Never happened. The
bible is chock full of prophesies that never happened.
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m, Because you have not observed them nor was shown them
does not mean they were not fulfilled.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: The Future |
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On Nov 12, 11:13 pm, Yap <hhyaps...@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Nov 13, 2:06 pm, delibita...@comcast.net wrote:
On Nov 12, 9:01 pm, red_bikini <red_bikin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 12, 8:17 pm, "vivapadre...@aol.com" <vivapadre...@aol.com
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On Nov 12, 7:34 pm, gw...@mail.com wrote:
Does the Bible say anything about what God knows about the future?
Does God know exactly how things are going to go?
Yes.
The prophetic books in the Bible deals with future events. The Bible
is God's word, not man's.
God is the future. He is the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and
the end.
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I don't suppose you can offer a single piece of concrete evidence for
that?
Yes there is. Put our hand over your left breast,...and if it feels
warm and you feel warm and somewhat giddy, it is true!!! Now, how
could you challenge that? delib- Hide quoted text -
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No, it doesn't.
Every one alive could have that, no matter whether he is a believer or
not.
You have no point to make, just nonsense.- Hide quoted text -
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Of course it's nonsense, doesn't take much of a brain to determine
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Prime Minister of the Kin
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:43 pm Post subject: The Future is without the Jews and so the Jewish Crimes (ww |
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The Future is without the Jews and so the Jewish Crimes
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:17 pm Post subject: Re: God gave us the Law and the Lands, the rest is up to us |
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On Nov 13, 4:45 am, Prime Minister of the Kingdom of God
<jewtar...@googlemail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | God gave us the Law and the Lands, the rest is up to us
(www.grishenkoff.com)
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These people like you are simply so fucked up it's ridiculous. You
HAVE NO BRAIN AT ALL.
THINK FOR YOURSELF for ONCE in your life. |
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Judge Piglet
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:58 pm Post subject: Re: Bisexual Men |
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 03:24:37 -0600, "Anarchore" <anarchore@reborn.com>
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| Quote: | I have to say this site has really open-up my eyes to reality. It's made me
a better person and easier to accept myself for who I really am which is an
open-minded and realistic human being who has sexual desires and needs. It
has also made me very accepting of other peoples sexual orientation and
beliefs.
For the most part,I've pretty much lived a str8t lifestyle, all my past
relationships have been exclusively with women but now I'm ready for a
change.
After ending my last relationship (female), I decided to open up sexualy and
try something new and different. I was bored and tired of the same old
fahioned sex so decided to sexually explore my sexuality.
What lead me to this exploration is the simple fact that sexuality has taken
a sharp turn in the recent recent years. I see more and more people being
opening up and being open-minded about thier sexuality,wants and needs, and
that why I decided to jumped on the ban wagon, boy am I glad I did with no
regrets.
Now, I can only speak for myself after but after chating with other
members( men,women and couples) I realize I was not alone, boy was that a
relief.
It seems like more and more people participating and being more open-minded
about bisexuality.Of course we still have the homophobic and close-minded
people to deal with on rare occasions
(noticed I said "rare") but we deal with it. There are those still who are
are not comfortable or in denial about sexual orientation, but eventually
they will come around someday.
Hey, if you never try, you'll never know, as they saying goes "Hey...... if
you can't beat'm join'm"!!
In a nut shell, what it really boils down too, is we need to be content with
ourselves, in order for it happen, we need to stop living by societies
"st8t" rules and live by our own rules. We need to live by what makes us
happy and stop worrying about what other might say, think or do..
We need to take control of our own lives in a responsible way of course, and
as responsible adults it's up to us to make our own choices and decide what
we want. We are the only one who control and have the power to live our
lifes and chose what makes us truely happy. We also have the power to choose
who to love or to have sex with. As long as no one gets hurt, just live and
let live.
We need to learn to accept and love ourselves and appreciate life and learn
from it.
For some reason we have a tendency of forgetting we are here on this earth
for a very short time, so best we make the best of it. life is too short too
have too worry about others.
PS: This site has made it easier for me to understand my real self and my
sexuality, it has made me realize and understand humans sexualality,
fantasy's and curiosities.
I live a regular normal Str8t lifestyle but I guess maturity has made me a
bit wiser and more open-minded,which I have to say, is a good thing.
If after reading my blog, you have no better understanding of what I'm all
about, best move on, take your negativity, homophobia and criticism
elsewhere. Peace and Love!!!!!
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Right on!
Hope you meet a nice dude that's good to you!
"Jeezus is the coolest of ALL the gods....."
The Semi-Honorable Judge Pontius Pigglesworth, presiding |
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Mike Painter
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:31 pm Post subject: Re: The Future |
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vivapadrepio@aol.com wrote:
| Quote: | On Nov 12, 7:34?pm, gw...@mail.com wrote:
Does the Bible say anything about what God knows about the future?
Does God know exactly how things are going to go?
Yes.
The prophetic books in the Bible deals with future events. The Bible
is God's word, not man's.
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So none of the events have happened yet.
Good point.
I, using the same methods used by many bible prophecies, can predict the
score of this years Rose Bowl, the time they were made and who made them.
I can do this in a clear unquestionable manner.
Why didn't your God do this? |
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Ike
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| Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:41 am Post subject: Re: God gave us the Law and the Lands, the rest is up to us |
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"Prime Minister of the Kingdom of God" <jewtarded@googlemail.com> wrote in
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| Quote: | God gave us the Law and the Lands, the rest is up to us
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That's self-reliant Dominionism, and it's a lie.
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Ike1
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| Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:45 am Post subject: Re: The Future |
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On Nov 13, 12:50 am, Meteorite Debris
<epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au> wrote:
| Quote: | Last time that great scribe vivapadre...@aol.com <vivapadre...@aol.com
chipped away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
On Nov 12, 7:34ï¿=3Fpm, gw...@mail.com wrote:
Does the Bible say anything about what God knows about the future?
Does God know exactly how things are going to go?
Yes.
The prophetic books in the Bible deals with future events. The Bible
is God's word, not man's.
God is the future. He is the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and
the end.
Which doesn't explain the many unfulfilled prophesies in the bible. Like
Egypt was going to be deserted for 40 years. Never happened.
On the "To Do" list.
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No, it's on the "was," "is," and "will be" list, as are the rest.
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Douglas Berry
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| Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:05 am Post subject: Re: The Future |
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On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:10:12 -0800 (PST) Yap <hhyapster@gmail.com>
carved the following into the hard stone of alt.atheism
| Quote: | No, your last para was not well phrased.
If god knows our fate and had given us free will, he also knows that
we have chosen not to believe in him.
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In which case there is no free will.
Let's say we're rolling dice. If I already know ahead of time the
results of every throw, is it really random?
The same goes for free will. I got of work early today, and on the
spur of the moment decided to get my hair cut and pick up a new book.
If there is an all-knowing deity who has known this would happen since
the beginning of time, I made no choice, but merely followed the
programming offered to me.
Now if I had changed my mind and just come straight home; what would
that mean? That free will exists and that God cannot be all-knowing,
since my choice was not the one he expected.
In the case of an all-seeing deity, there is no free will and
punishment for acting out our roles is pure sadism.
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Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
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Ike2
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| Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:50 am Post subject: Re: The Future |
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"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:10:12 -0800 (PST) Yap <hhyapster@gmail.com
carved the following into the hard stone of alt.atheism
No, your last para was not well phrased.
If god knows our fate and had given us free will, he also knows that
we have chosen not to believe in him.
In which case there is no free will.
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Free will and predestination are SIMULTANEOUSLY EXISTING TRUTHS, otherwise
known as a PARADOX.
Witness God giving Isaiah the "potter-and-clay" analogy, who arrived at
PREDETERIMINISM, and God giving Jeremiah the "potter-and-clay" analogy, who
arrived at POST-DETERMINISM.
| Quote: | Let's say we're rolling dice. If I already know ahead of time the
results of every throw, is it really random?
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It's a singularity.
The event transpired when it occurred, but the results were already known to
God, but not to you.
| Quote: | The same goes for free will. I got of work early today, and on the
spur of the moment decided to get my hair cut and pick up a new book.
If there is an all-knowing deity who has known this would happen since
the beginning of time, I made no choice, but merely followed the
programming offered to me.
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No, you made a choice, and that choice became part of the fabric of the
universe.
| Quote: | Now if I had changed my mind and just come straight home; what would
that mean? That free will exists and that God cannot be all-knowing,
since my choice was not the one he expected.
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Not when the choice cycled around to the beginning from the end.
| Quote: | In the case of an all-seeing deity, there is no free will and
punishment for acting out our roles is pure sadism.
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Which is horseshit, since it's the judgment at the end of the story that
establishes the parameters at the beginning of the story, like Jesus saying
he is both the "root AND offspring of David," wherein Jesus came from David
and David came from Jesus at the same time, as Jesus created Adam, which led
to David, which led to Jesus, which led to Adam, ad inifinim.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:37 pm Post subject: Re: The Future |
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On Nov 13, 3:05 pm, Douglas Berry <penguin_...@mindOBVIOUSspring.com>
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| Quote: | On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:10:12 -0800 (PST) Yap <hhyaps...@gmail.com
carved the following into the hard stone of alt.atheism
No, your last para was not well phrased.
If god knows our fate and had given us free will, he also knows that
we have chosen not to believe in him.
In which case there is no free will.
Let's say we're rolling dice. If I already know ahead of time the
results of every throw, is it really random?
The same goes for free will. I got of work early today, and on the
spur of the moment decided to get my hair cut and pick up a new book.
If there is an all-knowing deity who has known this would happen since
the beginning of time, I made no choice, but merely followed the
programming offered to me.
Now if I had changed my mind and just come straight home; what would
that mean? That free will exists and that God cannot be all-knowing,
since my choice was not the one he expected.
In the case of an all-seeing deity, there is no free will and
punishment for acting out our roles is pure sadism.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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Joshua Gemmell
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:16 pm Post subject: Re: ***THE BOOK OF JESUS---a new Revelation from God |
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Your cunning, but this work will deceive the elect of God. You made
good use of the Truth and added lies.
I take offence at the use of one of my predictions without giving me
proper credit. You claim that it was a revelation you received, but
how is that possible for you to repeat my exact words verbatim after I
was given credit on national radio for this prediction? You claim that
it was Jesus who told you this, but why did Jesus repeat my exact
words?
Now, you didn't mention me as a seer, but you stole my predictions
about Atlantis being to west of Cuba, and by so doing this you
unintentional valid my perception as a seer.
Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that there is not something
supernatural going on here, I have no doubt that you are being
inspired by a power greater than you, but I have some concerns and
doubts that it is who you think it is. By stealing my words and
claiming it to be given to you by Jesus, you succeeded in convincing
me that this is the work of the Devil. What you are doing is gathering
every true messenger in the past ages, then adding upon their
revelations, and then claiming that the source of their inspiration
was in fact the same source that is guide you. This is clever, but it
will not deceive the elect of God.
Because the angelic guide you claim comes from God repeats word for
word my prediction at a later date, this proves that you have been
deceived and the Jesus son of Ananias you claim comes in the name of
Jesus Christ to see you is nothing but a pretender, the Devil appear
as an angel of light.
(2 Cor. 11: 14) "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into
an angel of light."
Here is what you said:
ATLANTIS
Q. Jesus, is what Edgar Cayse said about Atlantis true? Did it exist?
If so, where is it, and will it be found?
A. The city called Atlantis did exist, and still exists today, off the
coast of Cuba to the west(1). It is under water, but it will be
discovered very soon, and the world will wonder at it.
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NOTE 1: This is probably a reference to the "Sunken City" off the
western coast of Cuba.
-cut-
Why did you misspell Edgar Cayce name? Are you saying that the angelic
messenger who spoke perfect English was not asked his approval of your
imperfect English? Did you present your finish work for his approval?
And what does that say about you now wanting to correct it?
You see you have fallen into a trap, now you cannot correct anything,
not even asking Jesus for another revelation, because now it will be
seen as an attempt to cover it up.
The official transcript of Edgar Cayce reading on the people of
Atlantis places the Atlantis to east of Cuba, in the place now called
the Sargasso Sea. The Sargasso Sea in the North Atlantic Ocean, and
not the Gulf of Mexico where I predicted it would be found, I was the
only one to ever predict it would be found off the coast of Cuba, and
that parts of the city of Atlantis would be found to west of Cuba. I
was a student of remote viewing, and I was given credit by the founder
of the school on national radio, by the prestigious Ed Dames, he said
that a student had located Atlantis to the west of Cuba and said that
part of Atlantis would be found there soon. I was that student.
You are definitely being deceived by this angelic messenger calling
himself Jesus son of Ananias, you need to test him. Do you know how to
test to see if he is the Devil? I can help you with this test. Tell me
if you would like to know, because the Bibles said we are test the
messengers if they are from God or not. Only inside the Holy of Holies
are we to believe they are sent from God, but any angelic messenger
outside the Holy of Holies is to be tested.
I have a test that works, but I didn't use it when I met the Devil,
but it will work if you use. When I was confront by the Devil, he
showed me things that were true, but he never told me what he was
planning to do with me, it was reveal to me in a vision while I was a
wake that show me who he was, and what he was planning. God has a way
of revealing things to us, to prevent the Devil from deceiving us. But
in your case you need to do the test I outline for you, it requires
that you just one thing. Let me know if you want to know, but if you
are set on your mind to be fooled, then don't even bother asking me
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No, it's not change. It's just the new boss, same as the old boss.
*The* change occurs 5-21-11. |
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Codebreaker
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On Nov 18, 5:34 pm, "vivapadre...@aol.com" <vivapadre...@aol.com>
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| Quote: | On Nov 18, 2:26 pm, voiceofrea...@torontomail.com wrote:
Obama is stacking his cabinet with Clinton cronies, this is change?
No, it's not change. It's just the new boss, same as the old boss.
*The* change occurs 5-21-11.
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I thought the change was about the Constitution? |
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red_bikini
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On Nov 18, 2:34 pm, "vivapadre...@aol.com" <vivapadre...@aol.com>
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| Quote: | On Nov 18, 2:26 pm, voiceofrea...@torontomail.com wrote:
Obama is stacking his cabinet with Clinton cronies, this is change?
No, it's not change. It's just the new boss, same as the old boss.
*The* change occurs 5-21-11.
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We're trading a right-wing fundamentalist government that is both
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