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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 8:04 pm Post subject: Re: No Longer A Member Of The Temples of Satan |
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blueskie wrote: "Someone needs to beat the shit out you."
lmao are you threatening people over the net?
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gulllotlna@aol.competent (Lisa) wrote in
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Oh, now this is rich.
Rich indeed! Verily, I do not know how to properly accept the seemingly
endless honorificae as they flow copiously from the third-hand keyboard
of our deranged People's Commissar. I seem to have made the impossible
journey from middle-class Americana to object of terrified worship among
a fearsome group of Satanic Communists; assuming my rightful place in the
pantheon of the Satanic Reds.
I am the demon who torments the founders' as they sleep. I am the dark
djinn, the avenging angel, the great Satan. I alone do they fear when
they avoid the dark shadows of their consciousness, and it is my immortal
name which is repeatedly intoned as they post their long-winded and
incoherent articles on this forum.
Truly: I have arrived.
Victor
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 11:48 pm Post subject: Re: No Longer A Member Of The Temples of Satan |
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son_of_samedhi@hushmail.com (Little Orphan Anomy) wrote in
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| Quote: | blueskie wrote: "Someone needs to beat the shit out you."
lmao are you threatening people over the net?
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You got a problem with that? He He }8*)
What would usenet (in general, alt.satanism in particular) be, without
pathetic losers hurling empty and impotent threats?
Hell, if we didn't have the lamers to chuckle at, I dare say most of us
would drift off and join the Mormons or something.
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gulllotlna@aol.competent (Lisa) wrote in
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Oh, now this is rich.
Rich indeed! Verily, I do not know how to properly accept the
seemingly endless honorificae as they flow copiously from the
third-hand keyboard of our deranged People's Commissar. I seem to
have made the impossible journey from middle-class Americana to
object of terrified worship among a fearsome group of Satanic
Communists; assuming my rightful place in the pantheon of the
Satanic Reds.
I am the demon who torments the founders' as they sleep. I am the
dark djinn, the avenging angel, the great Satan. I alone do they
fear when they avoid the dark shadows of their consciousness, and
it is my immortal name which is repeatedly intoned as they post
their long-winded and incoherent articles on this forum.
Truly: I have arrived.
Victor
Someone needs to beat the shit out you.
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 7:37 pm Post subject: Re: Tani & the CoS |
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| Quote: | satanicreds@www.com (People's Commissar) wrote in message
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The problem with your vision is that it's Denmark based. The USA was
founded by Masons. ALL good schools were pretty much Mason run and
the education was 100% classical.
Why don't you provide us with some facts, Tani? You can't be too old
to remember the name and location of these "Mason run" "good schools"
where you sat on your Turanian tush for your "100% classical"
education.
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Seems Tani is maneuverering herself into in the narrow end of the fishing
net. It now turns out she never went to a particularly Masonic school at
all, but just a regular public school. Wonder what else in her past might
not be quite as unique as she claims? I mean, next thing you know, she might
not be a durga, a black hat lama, a Mason (beyond their own group's
identification with the Masons, that is), and whatever else she has claimed
after all. It's such a bitch when you claim an unusual past and others start
questioning it.
As is the case with LaVey, I have little concern for Tani's past, but when
arguments are made against me that are based only on the authority of a past
that isn't valid, then I speak up. This is one of those times.
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 11:57 am Post subject: Re: Tani & the CoS |
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Ole.
I have told you (and Vad) the exact names of the schools, the
teacher's names and the information you claim you never got. It was
via slow mail long long ago. It was a wholly Mason run school, the
Principal, every teacher. And there was E. Star (wholly pythagorean
and Eleusinian Mystery - NO secret - Lefkowitz in her argument against
Martin Bernal exposed all of that - it's standard Masonic). Sure I
learned all that as a kid. So? There were NO prayers said at the
school. The Pledge of Allegiance was said and it lacked the "under
God" verse. You can check that yourself since you are "into" that
kind of rubbish.
I have no reason to lie about that kind of thing. If you imagine I'd
post that kind of info on here, think again. I mentioned these things
long ago in slow mail. If I remember right, copies of Phil's full
scholarship, his degree and Phi Beta Kappa were included. The
information provided in Roots One and Roots Two is information Phil
and I both knew from SCHOOL, Ole. From regular, plain old school.
ALL of it. Roots One. Roots Two. That is pythagorean stuff.
Where do you think I know the Three Gates from? If you doubt the
veracity of that article, TAKE IT OFF YOUR FUCKING WEBSITE. You
THIEF.
You ride on my coat tails. Simple as that. If a public school had
curved grading back when the bitch claims, then it was one of those
"dumb ass" schools. Now I thought I already said that, yes, I did
explain that. I wrote this all up - it's on the website. It is very
easily verifiable - many people in the republic right have verified
enough of it - they got their hands on the actual textbooks that used
to be standard in the high-track schools. ONLY the dumbfuck schools
graded on curves prior to 1967. Dumbfuck doesn't mean that typos
aren't made, words aren't left out in 120 wmp typed usenet posts. It
means that a person can't THINK. The bitch below can't THINK. She's
a cunting idiot with her face in Zeena's panties who can't tolerate
disagreement. She is obviously someone who got smacked to hell by Dr.
Aquino or the TOS since she turned against them out of the blue (or so
it would seem).
I have no use for grammar nazis that bitch about grammar or typos on
usenet, on a flame board no less.
I know what I know. I learned the pythagorean stuff in school. I
know the other stuff from in-culture. How the hell ELSE do you think
I know it? What do you want, Ole? Photos of me and the family? God,
you are such a HAG.
You lied to your Danish friends, making it seem as if "Ole is a GREAT
FRIEND of Tani's." You never even met me. You were never a great
friend. You offered to do me Big Favors. Yeah, uh huh. You knew me
as well as you knew Blanche Barton - and you lived right near her, you
even photographed her house. You rode on the coat tails of the Dark
Doctrines that affected you so profoundly that you joined the dumb
fuck khkhkh ptewey COS because you were stupid enough to think the
DDocs were linked to that org (yeah, Gilmore told you they were,
right, we know). You never asked ME. I never volunteered the info.
I didn't trust you enough for that. That simple. Hell, I didn't even
trust Vad enough to outright just say that, tho I said it in other
ways, such as, "that is our material." You have to logically consider
this - you and Vad and a very few others were the ONLY members of the
COS I had interaction with. None of my FRIENDS were in or pro the
COS. NONE.
If you doubt that Kaiden Fox used my text on Tantra to Ace Plus
courses in both Northern Esoteric Tradition and Taoism at the
University of Wisconsin - then ask him, and check with his professor.
You are good at such non-being activity, such as checking up on your
lover's degree (I mean Lupo, not Amina). You are about as nosy as
Schlesinger when it comes to nosing into other people's business.
For the record, a standard Hellenic writing system had many forms of
emphasis in sentence writing - and yes, ALL CAPS was one of them and
they had two uses of caps, two forms. The bitch can go find it out on
her own. I'm done with her. She is no longer useful. She was
pathetic to begin with and heh - I behaved equally pathetic at the
time I needed the info she provided. And why did I need it? Because
SR'S were being linked to an anti-TOS group. That made it org
business. Please, she's on and on about "WHAT IF" like IF Aquino
didn't out Lupo then then then and then. Who the hell cares.
Arts High did not have a curved grading system except in the last
year, 1967, and at that, the teachers explained it and had to
APOLOGIZE for it. Students bitched about it as being not fair. It
wasn't fair. Do you know what a curved grading system is? Students
in that high school were expected to have learned Plane Geometry in
grammar school. They learned Solid Geometry in 10th grade. That was
a Good School. It was, e.g. well known that "East Side High" was a
shit school with morons in it.
100 questions are on an exam. Strict grading: 90 right is a B, 80 a
C, 70 a D and lower is a failed grade.
100 questions on an exam under the curved grading system: if out of
30 students in a class, the highest grade is an 80, then the 80 counts
as the A grade and the rest are graded based on that. And if the
highest grade is that of a student that got 40 right and 60 wrong (a
supremely failed grade) then THAT counts as an A grade. And so forth.
You bet it's not fair. Every one knew which schools were which.
Kori seriously needs to get her nose out of my butt. And so do YOU.
Your organization would not exist if not for the Dark Doctrines.
Fact. If you doubt the veracity of the information in articles you
have on your org's website, then REMOVE THEM and stop being a god
damned THIEF.
You seriously don't even know when you are provoking a person way out
of boundaries. I am not Anton Lavey. I am exactly who I said I am
with understatements. No exagerrations. You are a wannabe, a coat
tail rider, and you are Lupo's bitch.
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Ole,
Well, as Phil explained to you, or tried to in one of your "I have to
shut my ears or the truth will damn me" moods - your idea of
"alternate pasts" arises when you FIND OUT that a lot of something
OTHER was going on that you never knew about. You knew one thing -
that is what you see as "the past," but you didn't know the OTHER
THINGS - and when you are told that, you imagine these are alternate.
That's a little bit crazy, you know? I hope you did not inherit your
mom's, you know. Such things run in the genes.
Those "pasts" you hear do not contradict at all. And you have yet to
ever STATE just what you mean, even when asked by others. Kaiden has
no idea what the fuck you are talking about - and neither does Vad.
Of course, a paranoid delusional type would imagine that this is a
PLOT.
LOOK - it's SIMPLE! I viewed you ONE WAY - which may have been right
or wrong. You telling me what was going on at that job didn't help me
think otherwise, either. Of course, you can't possibly SEE that. You
are the aggrieved party: PERIOD. I only got a HINT of the "other OLE
WOLF" or is that the ALTERNATE OLE WOLF? much much later on when you
hesitantly told me what you THOUGHT of the COS. OH, then I had a
broader view of Ole Wolf. I did not view this as you making up a new
line, like, "I see this about them" when you said this. I regarded
it as you finally TELLING ME this - hence the hesitancy. I figured
you thought that all along. I mean, what you said was SO blatantly
obvious to our gang. NOT blatantly obvious to hard-working COS people
that work for FREE for the COS. Yet, despite telling me you "saw"
this about them, you CONTINUED to work for that organization. You
bitched at Vad, had a MAJOR falling out over the COS grotto, due to
HIS NOT WANTING to do work for them or involving that org. What was I
to think seeing this from a spaghetti thin telescope at long distance?
EH? You even imagined, in a fit of paranoia, that Vad stuck with the
SR because he wanted to have another title. That's crazy, Ole. That
is seriously delusional. VAD? HE wants a WHAT? Man, you don't know
the same Vad I knew before I ran into you.
You lack logic, Ole. You lack the ability to see what ME, PHIL, and
the others WOULD NATURALLY SEE about YOU. You don't even ponder (in a
legit fit of paranoia) that people were on the other end of the phone
LISTENING? They were over my house. Guess what! Diane Vera knew
this, and due to the length of the phone calls, she got to talk to
quite a few other people that she realized were obviously listening in
the whole time. What would we all naturaly SEE about you (despite
your now-proclaimed intent [alternate intent?], despite YOUR
perceptions of what you were doing)? We'd see YOUR ACTIONS and DEEDS.
You were, in our estimation - one of the sycophants. OK? Maybe
that's wrong. But it is the only thing we COULD SEE. Why can't you
fathom that? Perhaps that's a wrong assessment - but you need to get
OUT of yourself and see WHAT WE SAW and understand that this is the
only possible thing we COULD have seen from so far off with no
personal contact at all.
I do not change a past. I really DO think Ygraine is pretty. I know
I flamed her. So did Casey and others. I know others said she was
ugly. But I THINK SHE IS PRETTY. Am I changing my opinion? NO. I
AM NOT. Flames mean NOTHING. She has slanty kinda eyes, cheekbones,
full lips, a nice nose. I think that is PRETTY - very sexy. Some
folks hate it. Flames do not count. I'm not changing a damned
thing.
I really DO hate the Israelis and like the Israelis. I really DO hate
the Moslems and like the Moslems. It depends on what, when and who.
You have a real handicap when it comes to understanding how OUR GANG
HERE, the OLD OLD GANG, would see you - or what limitations we WOULD
have on seeing you. We saw DEEDS. You worked for the COS for free.
Translated things even - THEIR STUFF. It wasn't dark doctrine stuff
you did this with. It was THEIR STUFF. Why would you do that if you
loathed them that much? Because you didn't loathe them at all?
Because you were fanatically PRO them? Yes? That's what we SAW.
Ole, in the original Roots 1 and 2, LaVey is never called Dr. YOU
edited that in there. What would WE make of that? If you even read
the stuff you loved so much and understood it clearly, with clarity,
you'd have KNOWN what we would think of such people and such
organizations. Obviously, you didn't "GET IT." That is what we all
thought. If you doubt that, I suggest you reread Package, focus on
page 3. OH, no one told you - so now that I AM telling you, that's
changing the past? You're nuts, man. That is seriously nuts.
I can honestly tell you (and any moron can figure it out) why I gave
them articles to publish. They had a market - despite a small
membership. You'd be shocked to find out how many incarcerated people
get the Black Flame. Abyss, the store, told me ages ago. But about 5
thousand copies go out. They told me that too. I mean, the STORE
told me - not anyone in the COS.
You see alternate pasts, but you have neglected to even ONCE tell me
what you think this is. Do you doubt we had a gang here? Who the
hell's picture did you think was up on Vad's website all those years?
The Devil Gang picture? Mail me your passport Ole, and I'll copy you
photos of parties we had here. Pay me and I'll even somehow get
reprinted super 8mm film of the gang and you can see Wayne and Jackson
"blowing up the world" in one hilariously funny skit we did. You can
see the gang in "Attack of the Palsey People" in another hilarious
skit. PAY ME to get it developed and you can see the gang. That's
our gang that was on Vad's website for so long, or part of it. Why
WOULD I talk to you about my friends? Or what they thought? You
seemed like a sycophant - even when you did Dark Doctrine research,
looking for heaps of confirmation out there - which you found in many
places. You seemed to be doing this for THEM - not for US. You never
knew that we had a clear delineation between THEM and US. You ran
into enough COS members that knew this. Why did you NOT know it?
Because you chose not to know it? Didn't want to see it? BARTON knew
it, for hell's sakes. Gilmore knew it. HOW is it that YOU did not
know this?
What didn't you know? That there was a clear US that was not part of
THEM? Gilmore/Barton knew this, once again. Michael Rose wrote it in
"From the Pit." Why didn't YOU know this? What "past" do you imagine
I'm changing? Vad asked you - you had no answer. Kaiden asked you,
you had no answer. Go on. Of course, you see them as part of some
vast plot. That's seriously delusional. Vad is doing his own thing.
Kaiden is doing his own Lylyth.org thing. I doubt he ever thinks
about you or any of the POOS he used to know.
You are a provocateur. You are wary of Kaiden himself saying what he
really thought of you? Or Brendan himself? You are surprised that
they lied to your face? Gee, Ole. He's not the type of person to
WANT to get into a provocation or confrontation. He'd rather avoid
it. You are NAIVE. He got on the S-list and got bullied by people
that everyone could see honored YOU as their best Satanist. YOU
bullied the bullies so they'd leave him alone but you did not kick
them off your s-list. What ELSE COULD he think of you? That you were
a bully, too. He saw what you did on the s-list. So did Brendan.
that is what their perceptions were. Now you balk and think they are
changing their story? No, they are telling you to your FACE what they
thought, instead of saying it behind your back. They didn't say much
of ANYTHING to your face - of course, you took that as "approval."
Put yourself in their shows and WATCH yourself.
Do you DOUBT that B's a friend that has come here on vacation many
times and for many years?? You can never quite say what it is you
think I'm changing. It always boils down to stuff that even GILMORE
knew about (our gang, NOT part of the COS and NOT pro cos). How could
you NOT know this? It always boils down to that. You weren't "in
the loop" so to speak, or something like that. So you think I'm
changing something?
Did you know that Gilmore asked me on the phone, what the hell was
wrong with you? That was long before you took to doing me favors and
calling me up, btw. Did you know that I said "how the fuck should I
know?" Did you know that Barton wrote me and asked me who the hell
you were? I mean, AT THE TIME she did it, did I bother to mention it?
The letter is right there, you can see it. What did I change?
NOTHING. You misstated and took out of proper context what I said
about the Fundies -and you did it USING my name as a convincer. She
caught you. She told me.
Gilmore knew EXACTLY what I did at the time I did it, because I told
him about the ARBC - and that was in 1990, Ole. I didn't call Barton
a fundie xian. I did what I did and spelled it out to the letter.
People were here. LOTS of them. Heirlooms were all over the place.
The fundie group, the largest one at the time, thought it was devil
worship. It was plain old Masonic stuff, nothing more. But
explaining that to THIS group of people would have been way worse than
bringing up Lavey. They saw an issue of TBF too. Now that was COS.
I got articles written by Barton and some others, Nemo I think, one he
wrote pro guns - and I took out the satan word and made the articles
neutral. I showed these people and they liked what was being said.
Then I told them "oh, that's from the HP of the Church of Satan" and
gave them a line about atheist, just a joke, carnival, Addam's Family,
horror movies, all that. It worked to make the entire issue of "oh
oh, devil worship" DROP. Aside from that, Barton didn't even write
the article on guns. Nemo did. NO matter, I said the HP of the COS
wrote it. Barton was not the HP of the COS at the time. My purpose
in doing that was NOT making those people turn awway from the ARBC
because they saw heirlooms. Of course, I also ditched the heirlooms
into the attic for the time being. THAT is what happened. Gilmore
knew it, I told him. YOU DISTORTED IT. Simple as that. You also
made it seem as if it was something "Tani said" recently - and it was
wholly out of context. And why on earth would you go badmouthing
Barton on the s-list to a bunch of other COS members, and use my name
as the convincer? Did you ever think that they knew what happened
with the ARBC or that if they asked me (as Barton did) that I'd tell
them? Guess you never thought that. What did I tell Barton when she
asked? Just what I said here and told her Gilmore could easily
confirm it. Gilmore saw TAPE of Jeff on national TV with the ARBC
thing. Did I ever show you any of this? NO. Well, Ole. WHY NOT?
Why didn't I show you? WHY DID I NOT SHOW YOU THE TAPES of one of our
gang pulling off what NO ONE EVER managed to pull off in the USA? It
was a MAJOR big deal at the time. I was on TV shown causing a riot at
a school board meeting. Did you even KNOW this? NO. Why didn't I
tell you this? This was someting we all kept a close watch on through
the years - yet I never told you squat about it. I'm not changing the
past. I'm just NOW filling you in. You must be a very one
dimensional person, no humor, no musical ability, no talent. You saw
me as what, some kind of SPEAKER OF the Dark Docrines. Newsflash, I
never talk about the Dark Doctrines on my own freaking time. It's ho
hum background and nothing more. But you never knew this. HOW WOULD
you know this? Did you ever once talk to me about something that was
NOT work, computers or dark doctrines? NO. You never even knew what
things interested me personally, or what things WOULD tend to get me
to become close friends with a person. You never knew.
I sent you a tape of music once. I believe it was one tape? You
liked it. How long did I know you BEFORE I did that? I sent Gilmore
such tapes and he sent me tapes first up of his own music, beautiful
classical pieces he wrote. Did I ever send you a piano version of 6
passes of the Passacaglia? No, I did not. WHY NOT? I sent it to
Peter. You see, HE CAN PLAY. You can't. That's one MORE thing we
don't have in common. Did he ever send you his music? Did I ever
send you heaps of music of mine? NO. And this is unusual? No, it's
not.
So what's the problem here? YOU weren't in the loop. The fact is,
you weren't in what little bit of COS loop I ever WAS involved in, and
you were certainly not in the "OUR GANG" loop at all.
Nothing of the past is changed. Your distortions are set right. Your
misunderstandings are set right. And you need to seriously catch a
clue how WE WOULD have seen you. As a sycophant. 1. of the COS. 2.
of the DDocs. Like a fanatic (not very LHP or magician-like) you went
out there digging up all kinds of academic texts that verified the
stuff in the DDOCS. Dry, boring, no talent or surely you'd have
shared YOUR music. You didn't have any to share. That's that. You
seriously NEVER understood that people who know these things have NO
NEED of the academic clutter. They KNOW what they KNOW. Just like
musicians HEAR notes and play them. They don't have to know the
"names" of the notes or chords or know the origin of the tempered
scale. They HEAR it. Instantly.
Now go ahead and do your USUAL. Snip this and ignore it. YOU ALWAYS
DO THAT. That is because the TRUTH does NOT set you free or
straighten out your own misconceptions. You want the lies. And you
want to LIE about ME. That makes you The Enemy. Simple as that.
You are also a THIEF. You misrepresented a few things to the Danish
people you knew. You had them imagining that you were a "Great Friend
of Tani's" and yet you knew me about as well as you knew Blanche
Barton. Not at all. You seriously MISrepresented that. When Odal
mentioned that, I was taken a bit aback - I think I said something
like "Yeah, I know him." I don't even remember. But it was
surprising to hear someone say that. "Great friend?" After all I
wrote about what a Friend is, you lied to people about that? Yes, you
did. You exagerrated. Misrepresented. Distorted. And road on my
coat tails. AND you provoke and have no clue you are doing it.
TJ
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| Quote: | "Cat Asstrophy" <satanicat@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Barton
had a personal view of this.
A personal view that goes like: "The Satanist does..." That's not a personal
view.
Nothing more. Aside
from that, she's not even the HPess anymore. So "official COS views"
would have to come from the new HP or HPess, right?
Wrong. If Hewlett-Packard finds itself a new CEO, the organization doesn't
need to rewrite all its business agreements either. Official statements made
by the former head are in effect until explicitly revoked or revised by the
new head. That's also why people are laughing when Tani makes alternate
pasts instead of admitting she changed her mind.
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Kori Houghton Guest
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 4:53 pm Post subject: Re: Tani & the CoS |
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satanicreds@www.com (People's Commissar) wrote in message news:<f4c223d9.0307302257.71fd044c@posting.google.com>...
-----SNIP Granny's Rantsanging--------------------
| Quote: | I have no reason to lie about that kind of thing.
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Are you saying you make such a habit of lying for *no* reason?
| Quote: | If you imagine I'd post that kind of info on here, think again.
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Hmmmm.....so the names of the public schools she attended over 35
years ago have become one of the deepest, darkest, secrets of the
E.Es. tradition. Wow! I mean, who knew?
----More SNIPage----------------
| Quote: | I know what I know.
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"I know what I know, it's a thing that I keep in the bump on my head."
(apologies to Paul Simon)
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| Quote: | For the record, a standard Hellenic writing system had many forms of
emphasis in sentence writing - and yes, ALL CAPS was one of them and
they had two uses of caps, two forms.
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Whoa! Rantsang just revealed the *key to it all* right here on alt.s!
Those all caps typed virtual rants are Pythagorean secret codes
woohoo! Pssst! Tune in again tomorrow, when Tani will reveal the
Mystery of Blow Jobs: The Origin of Oral Sex as Taught by the Signers
of the Declaration of Independence.
| Quote: | The bitch can go find it out on
her own. I'm done with her. She is no longer useful. She was
pathetic to begin with and heh - I behaved equally pathetic at the
time I needed the info she provided.
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What info? *I* provided info? To Tani? She's the one with her
proboscis shoved up the arse of any org leader who will let her get
within snuffling range. She got information from *solitary* me?
Bwaaaahaaaahaaaa!
| Quote: | And why did I need it? Because
SR'S were being linked to an anti-TOS group.
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Bzzzzt! Wrong. (Even grading on a curve won't save you here,
Rantsang, because such grading only applies to errors. Not to
falsehoods.) SRs (no apostrophe for plurals, dear) were linked to RFS
because they *were linked* to RFS. I would have thought that this SR,
supposing he had any honor and a backbone, could have requested that
his RFS connection be removed from the site, and then apologized to
whomever at ToS personally -- all without your interference on Usenet.
| Quote: | That made it org business.
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But not your org, nor your business. That's okay, though, as long as
you are honest with yourself. Usenet is all about buttinsky behavior,
after all.
| Quote: | Please, she's on and on about "WHAT IF"
like IF Aquino didn't out Lupo then then then and then. Who the hell cares.
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Bzzzzzt! Wrong again. You, Rantsang, are the one who keeps dredging
up this ancient history. *You* are the one who cares. But don't let
the alt.s archive prevent you from living in your re-invented past.
Please do wallow and enjoy!
-----SNIPage galore--------------
| Quote: | Kori seriously needs to get her nose out of my butt. And so do YOU.
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Say what? Ole rang, you drooled. I rang again, and again you
drooled. (TM Victor) Tani, why don't you cut to the chase, and share
with us the reason behind (ahem!) this recent pose as a "pythagorean"
groupie? No, not your "roots" rants for sale on your website. I
refer to these Usenet declamations recently. Do share.
Sez Tani. How about emailing us all a pic of your Order of the
Eastern Star official *Bible* cover?
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"People's Commissar" <satanicreds@www.com> wrote in message
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I seriously doubt it that I'd have made any corrections you didn't want. I
can check the original version, though. Hold on a moment. (Insert sound of
papers shuffled here.) Yes, it says "Dr. LaVey" on page 23 of the original
"Roots 1" document. Written by you, not by me. I'll even put up a scanned
section from your original document the next couple of days for editorial
purposes: http://home19.inet.tele.dk/angles/drlavey.jpg. I don't need to
comment on what kind of person does that, because you already said it quite
clearly:
"Because you were fanatically PRO them? Yes? That's what we SAW. Ole, in
the original Roots 1 and 2, LaVey is never called Dr. YOU edited that in
there. What would WE make of that? If you even read the stuff you loved so
much and understood it clearly, with clarity, you'd have KNOWN what we would
think of such people and such organizations. Obviously, you didn't 'GET
IT.' That is what we all thought. If you doubt that, I suggest you reread
Package, focus on page 3. OH, no one told you - so now that I AM telling
you, that's changing the past? You're nuts, man. That is seriously nuts."
Drummroll and applause from the audience, please. Since it turns out it
wasn't me but yourself that had to write "Dr. LaVey" (and even fell for his
circus past), then according to yourself, you obviously didn't "GET IT," and
are seriously nuts.
But, if you're the least bit unhappy with my rendition, I'll only be happy
to tell you to stop using it and go back to your original version. You see,
while the contents are copyright by you, I can revoke your permission to use
my rendition any day. (Speaking of which, I haven't heard back from your
lawyer regarding your demand that I stop using the dark doctrines. Can I
expect a letter soon, or was that yet another one of your "I'll call my
lawyer" threats?)
As for the "great friend," I think you're confusing me with Vad, who often
referred to you as his greatest friend. I've usually referred to you as one
of my acquaintances. And the "huge favor" I did you "expecting you to pay
back" (i.e., giving you a computer assembled of spare parts) was paid back
within a few months already in terms of saved time and saved phone bills. It
was much easier to just have you send email. The thoughts I had about you
are grossly exaggerating in your mind.
Speaking of Vad, neither he nor Kaiden have asked me about any of your
pasts, but since everyone on alt.satanism has seen examples of your
back-pedaling, I'll refrain from digging any of them up. Besides, you'd just
make yet another lame excuse for doing what you did back then.
Now, you've brought up the use your name as a convincer against Blanche
Barton several times, so I think it's time we have a look at the exact words
I used in the proper context in that document, which was originally a letter
to Vad and later became my article, _Family Values_:
"It is not surprising that people who are used to authorities making the
decisions do not carry much responsibility for their own actions. Indeed, as
soon as their authorities disappear, they tend to be left bewildered and
stupefied. To take a recent example that both Tani and I noticed: at the
press conference following Doctor's death, Blanche Barton told the press
that Doctor believed in the Devil. Of all possible utterances she could have
chosen, this one ranges as one of the most thoughtless ones I can think of
at a time where the public will question the future of the CoS--especially
with the devil-worshiping Temple of Set wanting to take over the CoS. At
best, Blanche Barton demonstrated a remarkable aptness for having learned to
be stupid. Karla LaVey apparently attempted to diminish the mistake by
stating that Doctor did not believe in a literal devil with horns and
hooves, but I doubt it that anyone will notice. One has to question why
Blanche Barton acts like that. We notice that Doctor stereotyped himself as
a 12-o'clock authoritarian personality. As Doctor detailed in The Satanic
Witch, such a phallic-narcissistic character type will attract, and be
attracted by, a passive-feminine character type that we recognize as
'daddy's little girl.' It would be folly to believe that Doctor caught
interest in Blanche due to her Satanic qualities. Per Reichian teaching,
Doctor was a father figure and Blanche a passive-feminine character who
desires an authoritarian personality to protect her. Tani told me that she
(Tani) had taken one of Blanche's writings, replaced the dreaded 'S' (Satan)
word with a more innocently sounding word, and showed it to Christian women.
Not surprisingly, the suppressed, little women agreed with Blanche's words.
I do not know enough about Blanche to assert anything with certainty, but
her appearance suggests someone who would advocate fascism."
That's not using your name as an argument, that's using a random person as
an example.
I'll respond to one of your other posts now I'm at it: if you really sent me
the name of your school, surely it wouldn't be too hard to write those few
words here, too. If I'd known the name of the school, I'd have posted it
myself. You admitted the school was just another public school, though, so
it doesn't matter anymore.
I think it was also in that post where you said I wanted to photograph
Blanche Barton's house. As you may have forgotten, you were the one that
asked me to do that favor because you wanted the photographs. With the Black
House soon to be gone, they might be worth money, as you argued.
Oh, and to answer your statement that our organization wouldn't have existed
without the dark doctrines, I think you should take that discussion with the
Church of Satan instead of me, because they insist my organiztion hadn't
existed if it wasn't for them. And, unless of course the dark doctrines was
entirely something you came up with on your own, using the dark doctrines
makes me no more a thief than it makes you a thief.
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| Quote: | "People's Commissar" <satanicreds@www.com> wrote in message
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I seriously doubt it that I'd have made any corrections you didn't want. I
can check the original version, though. Hold on a moment. (Insert sound of
papers shuffled here.) Yes, it says "Dr. LaVey" on page 23 of the original
"Roots 1" document. Written by you, not by me. I'll even put up a scanned
section from your original document the next couple of days for editorial
purposes: http://home19.inet.tele.dk/angles/drlavey.jpg.
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Bwaaahaaahaaa! Once again, Tani's pants have spontaneously combusted.
She must have to keep a fire extinguisher handy by her computer. I
wonder if that is why she has been taking several weeks off between
posting sessions here, to allow the burned flesh to at least partially
heal on her buttocks allowing her to sit and type (at 120 wpm, of
course).
| Quote: | I don't need to
comment on what kind of person does that, because you already said it quite
clearly:
"Because you were fanatically PRO them? Yes? That's what we SAW. Ole, in
the original Roots 1 and 2, LaVey is never called Dr. YOU edited that in
there. What would WE make of that? If you even read the stuff you loved so
much and understood it clearly, with clarity, you'd have KNOWN what we would
think of such people and such organizations. Obviously, you didn't 'GET
IT.' That is what we all thought. If you doubt that, I suggest you reread
Package, focus on page 3. OH, no one told you - so now that I AM telling
you, that's changing the past? You're nuts, man. That is seriously nuts."
Drummroll and applause from the audience, please. Since it turns out it
wasn't me but yourself that had to write "Dr. LaVey" (and even fell for his
circus past), then according to yourself, you obviously didn't "GET IT," and
are seriously nuts.
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Heh. Is there a "Doctor" in the house? We have a seriously nuts
elderly woman who needs your attention!
----SNIP some well-scored points off of Tani's hide----
| Quote: | I'll respond to one of your other posts now I'm at it: if you really sent me
the name of your school, surely it wouldn't be too hard to write those few
words here, too. If I'd known the name of the school, I'd have posted it
myself. You admitted the school was just another public school, though, so
it doesn't matter anymore.
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Yup. Are we actually sure that Tani ever went to/finished High
School? I mean, back in the 1960s there really wasn't any provision
for pregnant teens to attend regular classes. From what I've heard, a
girl "in trouble" was sent to a special home to learn child care
skills and do school work equivalent to her grade. Or sent to an out
of town relative to finish out her pregnancy, then came home to repeat
the missed year of school. We are talking about Ancient History here.
| Quote: |
I think it was also in that post where you said I wanted to photograph
Blanche Barton's house. As you may have forgotten, you were the one that
asked me to do that favor because you wanted the photographs. With the Black
House soon to be gone, they might be worth money, as you argued.
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That sounds like Tani. Think of the edits she could have done with
the photos!
| Quote: |
Oh, and to answer your statement that our organization wouldn't have existed
without the dark doctrines, I think you should take that discussion with the
Church of Satan instead of me, because they insist my organiztion hadn't
existed if it wasn't for them. And, unless of course the dark doctrines was
entirely something you came up with on your own, using the dark doctrines
makes me no more a thief than it makes you a thief.
- wolf -
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Ummmmm. Let's see her wiggle out of this one.
Kori H. |
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Yes I admit I have been a member of the Satanic Reds since October of
2001 .
And also been invloved in other orgs much to my surprise don't excist
anymore.
But just like other people in the Satanic Reds we do not publically
speak about being in the org. In my opinion there is no reason to.The
SR was one of the first satanic groups I joined a couple years ago.And
out of those couple years it has been a blast. I haven't posted in
their group for sometime now for I only post if I have something to
say in regards to someone's postings or something that is on my mind.
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| Quote: | Yes I admit I have been a member of the Satanic Reds since October of
2001 .
And also been invloved in other orgs much to my surprise don't excist
anymore.
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Sorry. I don't quite follow you here. Let's start over, shall we?
First Blackwood posted his "Temple's" (ok -- bad joke) membership
roster. I replied asking the forum if anyone had ever seen any of these
individuals he claimed as members. You and -wolf- answered that you had.
Your message was a bit defensive, so I followed up with clarification,
going on the record that I don't have anything personal against
Blackwood.
He hacks his own webpage and announces it here in the third person and
flames himself back and forth. Funny and amusing, but nothing that makes
me angry at the guy. He doesn't know how to spell and posts articles
with some foreign charset, annoying but again I don't have anything
against him. He writes suitably bad poetry about stupid subjects (his
desire to abuse animals, etc.). Provided he stays clear of my pets, I
don't have any reason to get personal. You get my point now, I hope.
He's sort of a goofball, but no more so than many others on usenet. He
leaves me alone so it's all good with me.
At no point in that conversation did I invoke the "Satanic Reds"... Not
only do I not care about your membership status, I care even less for
the Satanic Reds. They seem to care deeply about me, of course; with
their founders whining and simpering about me in every other article
they post here. I care nothing about them.
| Quote: | But just like other people in the Satanic Reds we do not publically
speak about being in the org. In my opinion there is no reason to.The
SR was one of the first satanic groups I joined a couple years ago.And
out of those couple years it has been a blast. I haven't posted in
their group for sometime now for I only post if I have something to
say in regards to someone's postings or something that is on my mind.
Gino
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Again, I don't really care about the Satanic Reds. If you find this
group one that suits your personal inclinations, then I salute you and
wish you well among your peers.
Hopefully that's clarification enough.
Cheers,
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You know, that is copyrighted material. You SERIOUSLY like to
provoke. Perhaps the original did say that, I didn't remember that.
PHIL WROTE IT.
Take down copyrighted material from your website. It is COPYRIGHTED
MATERIAL, Ole.
"- wolf -" <wolf@nospam-blazingangles.com> wrote in message news:<3f2931b9$0$97203$edfadb0f@dread12.news.tele.dk>...
| Quote: | "People's Commissar" <satanicreds@www.com> wrote in message
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If you even read the stuff you loved so
| Quote: | much and understood it clearly, with clarity, you'd have KNOWN what we would
think of such people and such organizations. Obviously, you didn't 'GET
IT.' That is what we all thought. If you doubt that, I suggest you reread
Package, focus on page 3. OH, no one told you - so now that I AM telling
you, that's changing the past? You're nuts, man. That is seriously nuts."
Drummroll and applause from the audience, please. Since it turns out it
wasn't me but yourself that had to write "Dr. LaVey" (and even fell for his
circus past), then according to yourself, you obviously didn't "GET IT," and
are seriously nuts.
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I happened to meet people who were definitely in the carny business,
not a BIG circus like LaVey said, but a small town passing thru type -
that KNEW him. I still think he was involved in that. But he didn't
"work" for a big circus like he said.
| Quote: |
But, if you're the least bit unhappy with my rendition, I'll only be happy
to tell you to stop using it and go back to your original version. You see,
while the contents are copyright by you, I can revoke your permission to use
my rendition any day.
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You renditions are no longer used, Ole. They have NOT been used since
I got adobe acrobat.
(Speaking of which, I haven't heard back from your
| Quote: | lawyer regarding your demand that I stop using the dark doctrines.
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I can PUSH him to write the damned letter.
Can I
| Quote: | expect a letter soon, or was that yet another one of your "I'll call my
lawyer" threats?)
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Hopefully yes. And in YOUR country that would mean removing ALL
links, sublinks or links to links with our copyrighted material. STOP
libeling me, STOP bothering me or me and Phil.
| Quote: |
As for the "great friend," I think you're confusing me with Vad, who often
referred to you as his greatest friend. I've usually referred to you as one
of my acquaintances. And the "huge favor" I did you "expecting you to pay
back" (i.e., giving you a computer assembled of spare parts) was paid back
within a few months already in terms of saved time and saved phone bills. It
was much easier to just have you send email. The thoughts I had about you
are grossly exaggerating in your mind.
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Odal is the one who thought it - and he could not have gotten the idea
from me or from Vad.
| Quote: |
Speaking of Vad, neither he nor Kaiden have asked me about any of your
pasts, but since everyone on alt.satanism has seen examples of your
back-pedaling, I'll refrain from digging any of them up. Besides, you'd just
make yet another lame excuse for doing what you did back then.
Now, you've brought up the use your name as a convincer against Blanche
Barton several times, so I think it's time we have a look at the exact words
I used in the proper context in that document, which was originally a letter
to Vad and later became my article, _Family Values_:
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Barton's letter is up on a website. She told me what she had heard
you said. Go read it. Oh, I forgot. You got in in the mail.
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"It is not surprising that people who are used to authorities making the
decisions do not carry much responsibility for their own actions. Indeed, as
soon as their authorities disappear, they tend to be left bewildered and
stupefied. To take a recent example that both Tani and I noticed: at the
press conference following Doctor's death, Blanche Barton told the press
that Doctor believed in the Devil. Of all possible utterances she could have
chosen, this one ranges as one of the most thoughtless ones I can think of
at a time where the public will question the future of the CoS--especially
with the devil-worshiping Temple of Set wanting to take over the CoS. At
best, Blanche Barton demonstrated a remarkable aptness for having learned to
be stupid. Karla LaVey apparently attempted to diminish the mistake by
stating that Doctor did not believe in a literal devil with horns and
hooves, but I doubt it that anyone will notice. One has to question why
Blanche Barton acts like that. We notice that Doctor stereotyped himself as
a 12-o'clock authoritarian personality. As Doctor detailed in The Satanic
Witch, such a phallic-narcissistic character type will attract, and be
attracted by, a passive-feminine character type that we recognize as
'daddy's little girl.' It would be folly to believe that Doctor caught
interest in Blanche due to her Satanic qualities. Per Reichian teaching,
Doctor was a father figure and Blanche a passive-feminine character who
desires an authoritarian personality to protect her. Tani told me that she
(Tani) had taken one of Blanche's writings, replaced the dreaded 'S' (Satan)
word with a more innocently sounding word, and showed it to Christian women.
Not surprisingly, the suppressed, little women agreed with Blanche's words.
I do not know enough about Blanche to assert anything with certainty, but
her appearance suggests someone who would advocate fascism."
That's not using your name as an argument, that's using a random person as
an example.
I'll respond to one of your other posts now I'm at it: if you really sent me
the name of your school, surely it wouldn't be too hard to write those few
words here, too. If I'd known the name of the school, I'd have posted it
myself. You admitted the school was just another public school, though, so
it doesn't matter anymore.
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It was snail mail; we were talkikng about schools. You told me about
the epidemic or something like that, of retarded kids or autistic
(forgot) in Denmark's school system. So then, you doubt I learned
about the Hellenes in the 2nd and 3rd grades? HA!! Amazing. I did,
AND about the Egyptian Dynasties, Chinese Dynasties, Roman Empire.
The heavy focus on the Hellenic was typically American. There is no
way to prove it except to go digging up some of the standard school
history books on "Ancient History," which is what it was called back
then - and it was standard to teach it in good public schools. I've
learned enough about the fecal material that flocks to the devil to
NOT post anything that specific anymore. No fucking way. 1st grade
was American Indians for America, a whole map of the country was shown
with the tribes on it. We even put on plays and learned about their
clothing and ways of life. 2nd and 3rd was ancient history. 4th and
5th was US history focusing on the founding fathers. That was
standard. God damn, you have GOT to be about the most PETTY idiot on
here. Bitching about what I learned in school? I told you and I told
anyone who asked, it was standard good schools in the USA. And yes,
it's incorporated into Roots 1 and Roots 2.
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I think it was also in that post where you said I wanted to photograph
Blanche Barton's house. As you may have forgotten, you were the one that
asked me to do that favor because you wanted the photographs. With the Black
House soon to be gone, they might be worth money, as you argued.
Oh, and to answer your statement that our organization wouldn't have existed
without the dark doctrines, I think you should take that discussion with the
Church of Satan instead of me, because they insist my organiztion hadn't
existed if it wasn't for them. And, unless of course the dark doctrines was
entirely something you came up with on your own, using the dark doctrines
makes me no more a thief than it makes you a thief.
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You joined the Church of Satan BECAUSE of the Dark Doctrines and heh,
everyone knows that. The Dark Tradition Doctrines are OUR OWN
explanations of the typical tradition in a language that people into
satanism CAN understand. We also give pointers to books, suggested
reading material. Lots of that is not so easy to read, unless you
have a prior familiarity with it. You will NOT find, not anywhere, a
rendering of the tradition in THAT plain and pure a form except IN OUR
ORGANIZATION. Why don't you go rejoin the Church of Satan?
Your muddled logic must come from your mother.
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"People's Commissar" <satanicreds@www.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | You know, that is copyrighted material. You SERIOUSLY like to
provoke. Perhaps the original did say that, I didn't remember that.
PHIL WROTE IT.
Take down copyrighted material from your website. It is COPYRIGHTED
MATERIAL, Ole.
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Copyright depends on use. If the scanned piece of text had served to
illustrate the points in "Roots 1," which would arguably a copyright
violation. However, if that had been the intention, the piece of text itself
is really worthless, because there is not sufficient context included in the
piece of text for that purpose.
As I stated in my original post, I uploaded the particular section of your
text (http://home19.inet.tele.dk/angles/drlavey.jpg) to a web site *for
editorial purposes* for a limited time, because it illustrates a specific
point I made, which is that YOU folks wrote "Dr. LaVey" and that your entire
frothing against the kind of people that would do such a thing therefore
falls back on yourselves. If it was in fact Phil that wrote it, then it's
HIM, not me, that should "have KNOWN what we would think of such people and
such organizations. Obviously, you [Phil] didn't 'GET IT.' That is what we
all thought. If you [Phil] doubt that, I suggest you [Phil] reread Package,
focus on page 3. OH, no one told you [Phil] - so now that I AM telling you
[Phil], that's changing the past? You're [Phil is] nuts, man. That is
seriously nuts."
Copyright protects an author against theft, but I'm neither making money off
the particular piece of text, nor am I pretending anyone but you wrote it,
nor am I using it to provide the information found in your articles.
To summarize, the text cannot possibly be a violation of copyright. Since
you haven't spoken with your lawyer yet, please have your lawyer explain the
above to you when you decide to sue me for using ancient symbols and
non-trademarked expressions. In the meantime, the scanned section will stay
until everyone of the regulars on alt.satanism has had a chance to laugh at
you.
| Quote: | But, if you're the least bit unhappy with my rendition, I'll only be
happy to tell you to stop using it and go back to your original version.
You see, while the contents are copyright by you, I can revoke your
permission to use my rendition any day.
You renditions are no longer used, Ole. They have NOT been used since
I got adobe acrobat.
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If you are not using any of my renditions in your material--meaning both
text and figures--then surely you will have no problem signing an agreement
that you pay $1.00 as a license fee for each rendition used in each document
copy sold (beginning with today as the day of your claim) in case I find a
rendition of mine in any of said documents. Will you sign such an agreement
or do you wish to negotiate my license fee?
| Quote: | Can I
expect a letter soon, or was that yet another one of your "I'll call
my lawyer" threats?)
Hopefully yes. And in YOUR country that would mean removing ALL links,
sublinks or links to links with our copyrighted material.
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Does anyone feel like betting?
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You will hear from my lawyer and that WILL be the end of it.
Renditions? Sorry, Ole, you asked US permission to make them. We
gave you PERMISSION to make them. They are as much "your property" as
a letter from a the lawyer will be the property of the secretary for
typing it, choosing the font and the style and format.
I asked Phil. He wrote it FOR the COS - specifically - Gilmore asked
for the article. So he put in Dr.
End of convo. Reproduction of ANYTHING from copyrighted material,
without express permission from the copyright owner, is illegal. And
in Denmark, linking to a link that has a link to our copyrighted
material, is an offence.
The convo is over. Go be a pain in the ass to the COS.
"- wolf -" <wolf@nospam-blazingangles.com> wrote in message news:<3f2a8038$0$97167$edfadb0f@dread12.news.tele.dk>...
| Quote: | "People's Commissar" <satanicreds@www.com> wrote in message
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You know, that is copyrighted material. You SERIOUSLY like to
provoke. Perhaps the original did say that, I didn't remember that.
PHIL WROTE IT.
Take down copyrighted material from your website. It is COPYRIGHTED
MATERIAL, Ole.
Copyright depends on use. If the scanned piece of text had served to
illustrate the points in "Roots 1," which would arguably a copyright
violation. However, if that had been the intention, the piece of text itself
is really worthless, because there is not sufficient context included in the
piece of text for that purpose.
As I stated in my original post, I uploaded the particular section of your
text (http://home19.inet.tele.dk/angles/drlavey.jpg) to a web site *for
editorial purposes* for a limited time, because it illustrates a specific
point I made, which is that YOU folks wrote "Dr. LaVey" and that your entire
frothing against the kind of people that would do such a thing therefore
falls back on yourselves. If it was in fact Phil that wrote it, then it's
HIM, not me, that should "have KNOWN what we would think of such people and
such organizations. Obviously, you [Phil] didn't 'GET IT.' That is what we
all thought. If you [Phil] doubt that, I suggest you [Phil] reread Package,
focus on page 3. OH, no one told you [Phil] - so now that I AM telling you
[Phil], that's changing the past? You're [Phil is] nuts, man. That is
seriously nuts."
Copyright protects an author against theft, but I'm neither making money off
the particular piece of text, nor am I pretending anyone but you wrote it,
nor am I using it to provide the information found in your articles.
To summarize, the text cannot possibly be a violation of copyright. Since
you haven't spoken with your lawyer yet, please have your lawyer explain the
above to you when you decide to sue me for using ancient symbols and
non-trademarked expressions. In the meantime, the scanned section will stay
until everyone of the regulars on alt.satanism has had a chance to laugh at
you.
But, if you're the least bit unhappy with my rendition, I'll only be
happy to tell you to stop using it and go back to your original version.
You see, while the contents are copyright by you, I can revoke your
permission to use my rendition any day.
You renditions are no longer used, Ole. They have NOT been used since
I got adobe acrobat.
If you are not using any of my renditions in your material--meaning both
text and figures--then surely you will have no problem signing an agreement
that you pay $1.00 as a license fee for each rendition used in each document
copy sold (beginning with today as the day of your claim) in case I find a
rendition of mine in any of said documents. Will you sign such an agreement
or do you wish to negotiate my license fee?
Can I
expect a letter soon, or was that yet another one of your "I'll call
my lawyer" threats?)
Hopefully yes. And in YOUR country that would mean removing ALL links,
sublinks or links to links with our copyrighted material.
Does anyone feel like betting?
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