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Boris
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 Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 8:49 pm Post subject: Not only Gidney |
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A female friend of mine, recently has been contacted via AIM by a guy
from Norway. Her AIM-name ends with 14, so this guy might have thought
it's her age. He asked many weird questions about her body and all
that stuff. My friend did not clear up his mistake and let him talk
and talk. BTW: She is a member of Fraternitas Saturni. She tried to
scare him off by mentioning that she has lots of satanic friends.
Guess what???? He said that's great, because he is a member of the
COS. She went to their message board (Letters to the Devil) and to her
surprise, he realy got an account there.
She will play on with him, logging all the shit he sends her and then
give it to the police.
I'd love to see his face, when they break his door and wave with the
handcuffs.
Sounds like it will soon be the Church of Child Molesters.
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Corax
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| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 9:20 pm Post subject: Re: Not only Gidney |
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"Boris" <SwissScimitar@aol.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | She will play on with him, logging all the shit he sends her and then
give it to the police.
I'd love to see his face, when they break his door and wave with the
handcuffs.
Sounds like it will soon be the Church of Child Molesters.
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And you sounds like someone who talks before he thinks. If the guy uses
messageboards there is a chance that he also uses alt.satanism. If this is
the case, and if your story is true you have just warned him. One could also
ask the obvious question: you call the guy a child molester because he is
sexually interested in teenage girls. To my knowledge you can find many
teenagers among those who are into Satanism. Maybe he is just looking for
someone his own age.
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ThirdRockFan74
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| Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 9:48 pm Post subject: Re: Not only Gidney |
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Boris
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 5:12 am Post subject: Re: Not only Gidney |
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| Quote: | And you sounds like someone who talks before he thinks. If the guy uses
messageboards there is a chance that he also uses alt.satanism. If this is
the case, and if your story is true you have just warned him. One could also
ask the obvious question: you call the guy a child molester because he is
sexually interested in teenage girls. To my knowledge you can find many
teenagers among those who are into Satanism. Maybe he is just looking for
someone his own age.
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My friend said, he already sent her some pics and emails, so that
should be enough anyway and the guy is 31. I don't know his name, nor
do I want to know it. I maybe understand, that a pretty teenage queen
might mess up your brain, but if you ask her for sex online, in a way
she can proove it, you are a complete idiot. He deserves what he will
get. Responsibility for the responsible, isn't it?
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Kevin Filan
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 5:27 am Post subject: Re: Not only Gidney |
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On 8/7/03 11:49 AM, in article
b7372f06.0308070749.5578e34e@posting.google.com, "Boris"
<SwissScimitar@aol.com> wrote:
| Quote: | A female friend of mine, recently has been contacted via AIM by a guy
from Norway. Her AIM-name ends with 14, so this guy might have thought
it's her age.
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Maybe he thought she was one of Blackwood's people and figured it was her
IQ.
| Quote: | He asked many weird questions about her body and all
that stuff. My friend did not clear up his mistake and let him talk
and talk. BTW: She is a member of Fraternitas Saturni. She tried to
scare him off by mentioning that she has lots of satanic friends.
Guess what???? He said that's great, because he is a member of the
COS. She went to their message board (Letters to the Devil) and to her
surprise, he realy got an account there.
She will play on with him, logging all the shit he sends her and then
give it to the police.
I'd love to see his face, when they break his door and wave with the
handcuffs.
Sounds like it will soon be the Church of Child Molesters.
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IF your friend really is 14, and IF this guy propositioned her, and IF he
was aware of (or should have been aware of) her age, THEN you should be
talking to the Norwegian authorities. Had you done that, I suspect they
would have told you by now to keep your yap shut and stop yammering in
public. I'd also note that if your friend is a member of Fraternatis
Saturni I would presume she is over the age of 18... unless you're talking
about another group which is using that name but which has nothing to do
with the real F.S.
On the other hand, it sure makes for a spectacular story, doesn't it?
Smears mud on the CoS and gets you lots of attention. Maybe you should try
posting this to a Christian newsgroup. I'm sure they'd buy it at face
value. Throw in a baby sacrifice or two: that always gets them excited.
And tell them how everyone in the Church of Satan is bullying you. It
worked for Wolf. Well, come to think of it, it didn't... but maybe you'll
have better luck.
Peace
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- wolf -
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: Not only Gidney |
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"Neskoreni" <neskoreni@netscape.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I think the SRA debunkings can be considered a moot point now, however.
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Not really. Although it's now (nearly) established fact that there are
Satanists who have abused children, it doesn't mean child abuse is part of
Satanism per se. It just means that Satanic organizations, like so many
other organizations, have a few people that are criminal.
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Corax
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 9:07 pm Post subject: Re: Not only Gidney |
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"Neskoreni" <neskoreni@netscape.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Given the political makeup of the US at this time, I think a connection
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be drawn.
It may not be fair, but it is a connection that would not take more than 2
cases for the public to establish.
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The US has had worse cases - Charles Manson was one of the reasons why the
Satanism Scare started. One has to remember that a scare needs more then a
few criminal cases. A scare has to do with the way society works, it does
not depend on the existence of Satanists or "satanic crime". To think so
would be as silly as if one imagined that the witchhunts in the middle age
happened because witches kidnapped babies  As it is, the US has enough
paranoia about Islam and terrorism to ignore a few criminal Satanists.
One the topic of "Satanic Crime" the old Lanning rapport is still worth
reading: http://users.cybercity.dk/~ccc44406/smwane/Lanning.htm#What_makes
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Neskoreni
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| Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 3:14 am Post subject: Re: Not only Gidney |
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"Neskoreni" <neskoreni@netscape.net> wrote in message
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Given the political makeup of the US at this time, I think a connection
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be drawn.
It may not be fair, but it is a connection that would not take more than
2
cases for the public to establish.
The US has had worse cases - Charles Manson was one of the reasons why the
Satanism Scare started. One has to remember that a scare needs more then a
few criminal cases. A scare has to do with the way society works, it does
not depend on the existence of Satanists or "satanic crime". To think so
would be as silly as if one imagined that the witchhunts in the middle age
happened because witches kidnapped babies As it is, the US has enough
paranoia about Islam and terrorism to ignore a few criminal Satanists.
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Personally, I do not believe there are "satanic crimes".
The difference this time is that the child molesters can be traced directly
to the ideology of LaVeyan satanism.
I doubt there will be a scare, but the connection has certainly been made.
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Kevin Filan
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| Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 4:56 am Post subject: Re: Not only Gidney |
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On 8/8/03 9:34 AM, in article
3f33ac71$0$97209$edfadb0f@dread12.news.tele.dk, "- wolf -"
<wolf@nospam-blazingangles.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "Kevin Filan" <mrharwer@excite.SPAMBGONE.com> wrote in message
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Smears mud on the CoS and gets you lots of attention. Maybe you should
try
posting this to a Christian newsgroup. I'm sure they'd buy it at face
value. Throw in a baby sacrifice or two: that always gets them excited.
And tell them how everyone in the Church of Satan is bullying you. It
worked for Wolf. Well, come to think of it, it didn't... but maybe you'll
have better luck.
Excuse me? I haven't made any issue out of that. I've said that members of
the Church of Satan suddenly acted hostile against me once they learned that
I've been thrown out of the organization, but I haven't done any of the
above, Kevin.
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Actually, you're right. My apologies. Next time I should read these
threads more closely.
I still suspect "Boris" is full of shit. He's never posted anything save
this touching expose of some "CoS Child Molester" who remains unnamed, but
who made "advances" toward some woman whose screen name ends in "14" but who
is a member of F.S. -- a group which is most unlikely to count 14-year olds
among its members for any number of reasons. Conveniently, she remains
unnamed as well. I wonder if she went to a Masonic public school...
Peace
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People's Commissar
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| Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 6:13 pm Post subject: Re: Not only Gidney |
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Uh, Pedophilan is SEEING TANI everywhere again.
Your problem is that you see me everywhere you look. Gee, Filan. You
blamed me for that MacIntosh shit and I had nothing to do with it. I
don't READ your org's website. You blamed me for the Gilmore Godzilla
prank. I didn't have a thing to do with it. You blamed me for a heap
of shit I had nothing to do with. That proves that your own HP thinks
I'm omnipotent or something, or omnipresent. FUCKING MORON.
I wouldn't even have said BOO about this shit - except that you don't
know when to shut your FACE HOLE. The only thing I INITIALLY said,
was about the Big Lady's penchant for giving her cum-breathed advice
to other women when she should shut her stinking face hole and NEVER
give advice to ANYONE, especially another woman. That was IT, until
YOU showed up.
No, Whatever and whoever Boris is, I have no idea and I know nothing
about the rest of it. Nor do I give a shit about it. I do not pose
as 14 year old girls or - I'll say it one more time: I do NOT post as
anyone other than MYSELF and I make it clear that it's me.
BOO, watch out, I might be under your freaking bed - you paranoid
kook. I'm around the corner from West 10th Street - WATCH OUT - the
storage joint might catch aflame, oh oh, TANI must have done it. Do
you think "TANI DID IT" when you get a flat tire, Filan? You need to
forget about me. Had you DONE that, had your storm troopers DONE that
to begin with, well things might not have turned out quite as they
have BEEN turning out lately.
You know, heh, YOUR ORG's heavies wanted to make it WELL KNOWN that
Egan Egan Egan Nambla Nambla, blah blah. Then you tried to make it
well known that I liked Egan and lied about m y not BELIEVING the
absurd insanity being said about a legal org that's still legal and
unharassed by the law. You did that. I did not do it. YOU DID.
Your org's heavies wanted to dredge up all that Aquino Aquino child
fucker blah blah. YOU DID THIS. So now? You are SUCK a fucking
moron - and to think, I used to think you actually knew computer stuff
and were kinda intelligent. NAH, you are a MORON like the rest of the
bullies in your pathetic cult of freaks.
Sweet dreams. NOT.
Kevin Filan <mrharwer@excite.SPAMBGONE.com> wrote in message news:<BB59B160.2D6D0%mrharwer@excite.SPAMBGONE.com>...
| Quote: | On 8/8/03 9:34 AM, in article
3f33ac71$0$97209$edfadb0f@dread12.news.tele.dk, "- wolf -"
wolf@nospam-blazingangles.com> wrote:
"Kevin Filan" <mrharwer@excite.SPAMBGONE.com> wrote in message
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Smears mud on the CoS and gets you lots of attention. Maybe you should
try
posting this to a Christian newsgroup. I'm sure they'd buy it at face
value. Throw in a baby sacrifice or two: that always gets them excited.
And tell them how everyone in the Church of Satan is bullying you. It
worked for Wolf. Well, come to think of it, it didn't... but maybe you'll
have better luck.
Excuse me? I haven't made any issue out of that. I've said that members of
the Church of Satan suddenly acted hostile against me once they learned that
I've been thrown out of the organization, but I haven't done any of the
above, Kevin.
Actually, you're right. My apologies. Next time I should read these
threads more closely.
I still suspect "Boris" is full of shit. He's never posted anything save
this touching expose of some "CoS Child Molester" who remains unnamed, but
who made "advances" toward some woman whose screen name ends in "14" but who
is a member of F.S. -- a group which is most unlikely to count 14-year olds
among its members for any number of reasons. Conveniently, she remains
unnamed as well. I wonder if she went to a Masonic public school...
Peace
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Neskoreni
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| Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: Not only Gidney |
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"- wolf -" <wolf@nospam-blazingangles.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | "Neskoreni" <neskoreni@netscape.net> wrote in message
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The difference this time is that the child molesters can be traced
directly
to the ideology of LaVeyan satanism.
In that case, Ku Klux Klan can be traced directly to the Christian
ideology
as well. Just because a few kooks claim that their crimes are motivated by
their particular ideology, it doesn't necessarily imply that their
ideology
really motivates such crimes.
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I wasn't suggesting it does.
These are connections the public tends to make, tho.
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- wolf -
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 12:28 pm Post subject: Re: Not only Gidney |
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| Quote: | Just FYI. I'm surprised you are trying to defend them. They are what
they are, Ole. Would-be bullies, freaks, twisted klippoths. You
thought you knew that. Guess you didn't REALLY know it.
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I know what they are. What you don't understand is that the few Satanists
that commit crimes are really a moot point in this discussion, and therefore
I'm neither defending nor atticking them.
Satanic Ritual Abuse doesn't need criminal Satanists, because it can easily
make up better stories without them. A few criminal Satanists enable the SRA
people to say, "See! They exist!," but so does any fictional story made up
by any Michelle.
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People's Commissar
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 3:41 pm Post subject: Re: Not only Gidney |
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ELEVEN years of abuse and whatever else went on. 11 years of it. At the
time it was obviously going on, they publicity hounded a national TV station
and presented themselves as - well, you know the rest. Don't ask me to
repeat it.
SRA made up stories - that's the point. Bogus stories. No real satanic org
was ever mentioned, they didn't even try to pull that. NOW THEY CAN. And
it's the most well known org, if not the biggest. And the people involved
were best friends, shown on the national TV show, of the top honchos.
Hello.
Aside from that. SRA, saying that, is none but an exagerration by me being
said to a FLAMING MORON too stupid to shut his face hole. 3 years of them
persecuting FCOS over nothing. More years of them persecuting TOS over
nothing. I'm surprised Egan and Aquino are not on here SHOVING a hot rot
up their collective asses. OH, let's not forget LaVey trying to get the
Aquinos (both of them) locked up by giving false testimony to ...... the
CID. Now that's serious.
That "turn the other cheek" indoctrination sure must be deep.
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Just FYI. I'm surprised you are trying to defend them. They are what
they are, Ole. Would-be bullies, freaks, twisted klippoths. You
thought you knew that. Guess you didn't REALLY know it.
I know what they are. What you don't understand is that the few Satanists
that commit crimes are really a moot point in this discussion, and
therefore
I'm neither defending nor atticking them.
Satanic Ritual Abuse doesn't need criminal Satanists, because it can
easily
make up better stories without them. A few criminal Satanists enable the
SRA
people to say, "See! They exist!," but so does any fictional story made up
by any Michelle.
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You either have no idea what SRA really is about, or you're deliberately
trying to twist its meaning. See Amina's reply elsewhere.
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Kevin Filan
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 7:27 pm Post subject: Re: Not only Gidney |
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On 8/10/03 3:28 AM, in article
3f35f5b9$0$97234$edfadb0f@dread12.news.tele.dk, "- wolf -"
<wolf@nospam-blazingangles.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Satanic Ritual Abuse doesn't need criminal Satanists, because it can easily
make up better stories without them. A few criminal Satanists enable the SRA
people to say, "See! They exist!," but so does any fictional story made up
by any Michelle.
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The interesting thing about the SRA hysteria, and the thing which most of
the "anti-SRA Satanists" miss, is that the vast majority of people accused
of SRA were *Christians* accused by *other Christians.* Other than Aquino,
not one self-professed "Satanist" found himself targeted by these
investigations. (And Aquino's problems had more to do with his utter lack
of social skills than any "FUNDAMENTALIST PEDOPHILES ON THE SRA MONEY
TRAIN", IMO).
Russell Smith was convicted of sexual crimes against minors; Will Gidney has
been charged with same. In Smith's case there appears to have been some
ritualistic component: I have not seen the specifics of the accusations
against Gidney and cannot comment thereon. In Smith's case at least it
looks like the system worked ... a criminal was captured, charged and
convicted. There's no "hysteria" about it... and to date no authorities
have used this as "evidence" that the FCoS, CoS, ToS, etc. advocate child
molestation, or that they are part of some shadowy conspiracy.
Of course, it's not surprising that Tani can't tell the difference between
the real world and trolls making accusations on Usenet. For Tani, Usenet is
her real world. I'm sure she thinks if she screams loudly enough on here
someone will pay attention to her and all those evil CoS people who threw
her out on her Depends-wearing ass will be arrested for crimes against
children. It isn't going to happen, of course... but I'm sure it makes her
feel a lot better about her sad existence.
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