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Searles O'Dubhain
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 Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 11:13 pm Post subject: Re: NS/NB stone circle/Stonehenge charging |
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"janet" <janet@karlsforums.com> wrote in message
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Nodding, I think - I'm not sure I understand what you mean by, "points
of
creation"? I know what I'd mean, but I'm not sure it's the same? :)
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I mean places that are without shape, form, intention or direction.
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Nuala
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| Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 11:22 pm Post subject: Re: NS/NB stone circle/Stonehenge charging |
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In article <MPG.1b47648d79a3f901989a27@news.individual.net>,
Spyder <news1@spyder.me.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | In article <b74nd0d9b7krjl6u1eirvm3etdt180jeh4@4ax.com>, David Dalton
quietly whispered...
One side of the real Stonehenge needs charging but
I am unable to do it remotely it seems, but can only
do it when I visit.
This all invokes a plethora of questions
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I wouldn't worry, Spyder. The spirit form of Stonehenge is perfectly
capable of looking after itself in any number of ways, and attempts to
change it could be compared with attempting to empty the Atlantic with a
teaspoon. I'm inclined to agree with Rhyanon.
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janet
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| Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 11:41 pm Post subject: Re: NS/NB stone circle/Stonehenge charging |
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Searles O'Dubhain wrote:
| Quote: | "janet" <janet@karlsforums.com> wrote in message
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Nodding, I think - I'm not sure I understand what you mean by,
"points of creation"? I know what I'd mean, but I'm not sure it's
the same? :)
I mean places that are without shape, form, intention or direction.
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Ah, I thought we'd be using it differently. :)
IIUI, these are places from which creation can happen?
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Thenie
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| Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 11:43 pm Post subject: Re: NS/NB stone circle/Stonehenge charging |
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"Nuala" <Nimue@niflheim.org> wrote in message
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| Quote: | In article <MPG.1b47648d79a3f901989a27@news.individual.net>,
Spyder <news1@spyder.me.uk> wrote:
In article <b74nd0d9b7krjl6u1eirvm3etdt180jeh4@4ax.com>, David Dalton
quietly whispered...
One side of the real Stonehenge needs charging but
I am unable to do it remotely it seems, but can only
do it when I visit.
This all invokes a plethora of questions
I wouldn't worry, Spyder. The spirit form of Stonehenge is perfectly
capable of looking after itself in any number of ways, and attempts to
change it could be compared with attempting to empty the Atlantic with a
teaspoon. I'm inclined to agree with Rhyanon.
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For what's worth, having been privileged to visit there and experience the
sanctity and enormity of the energy that emanates from the centre circle of
stones, I tend to agree. Easier for that individual to lift one of the
great stones from the ground to reposition it than to make any impress by
individual human intent. I've been floored by the arrogance of someone
thinking they have the right, much less the ability, to attempt it; floored
since first I heard of it.
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Searles O'Dubhain
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 12:10 am Post subject: Re: NS/NB stone circle/Stonehenge charging |
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"janet" <janet@karlsforums.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Searles O'Dubhain wrote:
"janet" <janet@karlsforums.com> wrote in message
news:2k5rh1F17lok4U1@uni-berlin.de...
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Nodding, I think - I'm not sure I understand what you mean by,
"points of creation"? I know what I'd mean, but I'm not sure it's
the same? :)
I mean places that are without shape, form, intention or direction.
Ah, I thought we'd be using it differently. :)
IIUI, these are places from which creation can happen?
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They are places where creation has happened and within which one can
create without external conflict. Such places are all connected to one
another since they don't exist anywhere else. :-)
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Searles O'Dubhain
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 12:17 am Post subject: Re: NS/NB stone circle/Stonehenge charging |
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"'Thenie" <MTN-GIRL@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | "Nuala" <Nimue@niflheim.org> wrote in message
news:4cc537edffNimue@ukgateway.net...
In article <MPG.1b47648d79a3f901989a27@news.individual.net>,
Spyder <news1@spyder.me.uk> wrote:
In article <b74nd0d9b7krjl6u1eirvm3etdt180jeh4@4ax.com>, David
Dalton
quietly whispered...
One side of the real Stonehenge needs charging but
I am unable to do it remotely it seems, but can only
do it when I visit.
This all invokes a plethora of questions
I wouldn't worry, Spyder. The spirit form of Stonehenge is perfectly
capable of looking after itself in any number of ways, and attempts
to
change it could be compared with attempting to empty the Atlantic
with a
teaspoon. I'm inclined to agree with Rhyanon.
For what's worth, having been privileged to visit there and experience
the
sanctity and enormity of the energy that emanates from the centre
circle of
stones, I tend to agree. Easier for that individual to lift one of
the
great stones from the ground to reposition it than to make any impress
by
individual human intent. I've been floored by the arrogance of
someone
thinking they have the right, much less the ability, to attempt it;
floored
since first I heard of it.
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Humans in their efforts to make Stonehenge in their own concepts have
moved the stones many times over the past 4700 years or so. Most
recently, the stones were physically moved in the last century IIRC. For
an interesting essay on the power/spirituality of such places from a
Druid's perspective, see:
http://www.imbas.org/articles/power_and_landscape.html
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janet
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 12:21 am Post subject: Re: NS/NB stone circle/Stonehenge charging |
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Searles O'Dubhain wrote:
| Quote: | [points of creation]
They are places where creation has happened
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Nodding - but is that not everywhere? By definition (depending on how one
views things, of course) if something exists, or some place exists, has
there not been creation there?
and within which one can
| Quote: | create without external conflict. Such places are all connected to one
another since they don't exist anywhere else. 
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Hmmmmm :)
Lspace?
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Searles O'Dubhain
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 12:28 am Post subject: Re: NS/NB stone circle/Stonehenge charging |
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"janet" <janet@karlsforums.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Searles O'Dubhain wrote:
[points of creation]
They are places where creation has happened
Nodding - but is that not everywhere? By definition (depending on how
one
views things, of course) if something exists, or some place exists,
has
there not been creation there?
and within which one can
create without external conflict. Such places are all connected to
one
another since they don't exist anywhere else. :-)
Hmmmmm :)
Lspace?
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Null-space
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janet
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 12:32 am Post subject: Re: NS/NB stone circle/Stonehenge charging |
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Searles O'Dubhain wrote:
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Lspace?
Null-space
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How can it be there, if it is not there?
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Spyder
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 12:41 am Post subject: Re: NS/NB stone circle/Stonehenge charging |
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In article <4cc537edffNimue@ukgateway.net>, Nuala quietly whispered...
| Quote: | I wouldn't worry, Spyder. The spirit form of Stonehenge is perfectly
capable of looking after itself in any number of ways, and attempts to
change it could be compared with attempting to empty the Atlantic with a
teaspoon. I'm inclined to agree with Rhyanon.
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Agree with Rhyanon on what? That we shouldn't ask questions?
The questions were intended to to discover Dave's motives for his
charging of the circle. At no point did I question the validity of the
act, but rather wanted to to understand the reasons behind his choice.
If there has been any change to Stonehenge that someone knows about I'd
be interested to know what they know about it.
Stonehenge may very well look after itself, but as Jani says, Dave may
be connecting to the residue, and if it is the residue that needs he
feels needs cleansing I'd be curious to know the whys and wherefores.
We should, I think, be asking the same questions of ourselves when we
set out on such a task.
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Spyder
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leather because it's safer to harass rich women than bikers.
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Spyder
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 12:47 am Post subject: Re: NS/NB stone circle/Stonehenge charging |
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In article <10dqqu5go1o7sb9@corp.supernews.com>, Rhyanon quietly
whispered...
| Quote: | "Spyder" <news1@spyder.me.uk> wrote in message
This all invokes a plethora of questions
All of which boil down to:
Is Dave hurting anything?
No.
Is Dave making himself happy?
Yes.
Which makes the rest of your questions pointless.
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Which suggests that you have little faith in what Dave's trying to
achieve. At no point did I question Dave's choice of working, but only
ask for the reasons behind that choice. If there is something that
needs charging, and he feels he is someone who can achieve that, then
good for him for standing by his convictions and persevering.
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Spyder
To absent friends, lost loves, old gods,
and the season of mists (Hob Galding - Sandman)
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Trin
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 1:24 am Post subject: Re: NS/NB stone circle/Stonehenge charging |
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"David Dalton" <dalton@nfld.com> wrote
| Quote: | "janet" <janet@karlsforums.com> wrote:
Surely the people who put the sacrifices there knew what they were
doing? If that (those) sacrifice(s) were there for a purpose, is
getting rid of their energy the best thing to be doing?
Oh yes, blood sacrifice including human sacrifice is not nice stuff.
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In your opinion. How d'you know the stones didn't request it? And if they
did, isn't your 'cleansing' it then kinda detrimental to the stones?
| Quote: | And it is good to get rid of the criminal (demon if you will)
association and attempt to bring the whole into tune but I may be able
to improve on that close up greatly but the right 2/3 still had an
ancient vibrancy as I said.
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And again, imo it should be up to the stones, not to us as interfering
peep type things.
| Quote: | Check it out and see if it feels any better.
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Having never been there before, I wouldn't know any difference if it
jumped up and bit me, but as one who 'talks' to stones... I'm dubious of
their opinions on what you say you've done.
| Quote: | I don't mean to be argumentative, but these did occur as questions...
isn't this imposing a modern (or rather, one sort of modern) view on
an ancient monumnet?
Well, e.g. building a Catholic church on top of an ancient human
sacrifice site should not be done without properly cleansing
the site in my opinion,
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Why though? As in, why should it need cleansing? After all, isn't part of
the Catholic ritual in part conected with human sacrifice?
| Quote: | and this is somewhat similar, Stonehenge has been used my many peoples
with various belief systems over the millenia and yes it is good for me
to cleanse, renew, bless and tune it with my powerful avatar type
connections.
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And again, what about the opinions of the stones in all of this? And...
aren't you just doing exactly the same thing as the many peoples with
various belief systems have been doing across said millenia with your
cleansing?
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Searles O'Dubhain
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 1:44 am Post subject: Re: NS/NB stone circle/Stonehenge charging |
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"janet" <janet@karlsforums.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Searles O'Dubhain wrote:
Lspace?
Null-space
How can it be there, if it is not there?
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It is not there until it is there. It is created. In this way, creation
is directly linked to non-existence. How does one moment connect to
another? How is space created? What was it before it was created?
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janet
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 1:53 am Post subject: Re: NS/NB stone circle/Stonehenge charging |
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Searles O'Dubhain wrote:
| Quote: | "janet" <janet@karlsforums.com> wrote in message
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Searles O'Dubhain wrote:
Lspace?
Null-space
How can it be there, if it is not there?
It is not there until it is there. It is created. In this way,
creation is directly linked to non-existence.
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Ahhh, right, I hadn't understood what you meant.
How does one moment
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I'm not at all sure they do, in the way we perceive them to do.
Time, afaics, is a limit imposed on our existence, but we don't always have
to accept that limit. Accepting it makes life a lot easier at times (can't
see my boss accepting, "Well, time doesn't always flow as we perceive it to
do..." as a good excuse for not turning up for work, or missing a deadline,
somehow...). But being *tied* to that perception as though it were real is
another thing entirely...
How is space created? What was it before it was
Grin - something tells me my answer would not be yours. Which isn't a
problem, but it explains why I've been trying to make sure I understood what
you meant.
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Jani
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 1:54 am Post subject: Re: NS/NB stone circle/Stonehenge charging |
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| Quote: | On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 09:54:22 +0100, "Niamh"
a_hart@NOSPAMblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
(If it is a Troll I'm sorry I have bated it .I had to vent my spleen)
He's not a troll. It's just that his reality doesn't always coincide
with that of other people.
I liked Jani's reply ("Sounds like you're not connecting with the
original energy, you're connecting with residue"), which I thought
probably hit the nail on the head.
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Well, David makes sense, in my particular thread of reality. Unfortunately
he generally sees a *lot* of threads, all at the same time, and with several
dimensions going back, forth and sideways. So I pick on the ones I can
actually catch hold of in passing :)
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