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1X2Willows
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 Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 2:00 am Post subject: Re: NS/NB stone circle/Stonehenge charging |
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"Searles O'Dubhain" wrote
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Searles O'Dubhain wrote:
Lspace?
Null-space
How can it be there, if it is not there?
It is not there until it is there. It is created. In this way, creation
is directly linked to non-existence. How does one moment connect to
another? How is space created? What was it before it was created?
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Creationist folly.
I could tell you what it was before, but then I'd have to kill you...
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janet
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 2:02 am Post subject: Re: NS/NB stone circle/Stonehenge charging |
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1X2Willows wrote:
| Quote: | "Searles O'Dubhain" wrote
"janet" wrote in message
Searles O'Dubhain wrote:
Lspace?
Null-space
How can it be there, if it is not there?
It is not there until it is there. It is created. In this way,
creation is directly linked to non-existence. How does one moment
connect to another? How is space created? What was it before it was
created?
Creationist folly.
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I may be many things, but I'm not a creationist, and somehow, Searles
doesn't come across that way to me... :)
| Quote: | I could tell you what it was before, but then I'd have to kill you...
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1X2Willows
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 2:07 am Post subject: Re: NS/NB stone circle/Stonehenge charging |
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"janet" wrote
| Quote: | 1X2Willows wrote:
"Searles O'Dubhain" wrote
"janet" wrote in message
Searles O'Dubhain wrote:
Lspace?
Null-space
How can it be there, if it is not there?
It is not there until it is there. It is created. In this way,
creation is directly linked to non-existence. How does one moment
connect to another? How is space created? What was it before it was
created?
Creationist folly.
I may be many things, but I'm not a creationist, and somehow, Searles
doesn't come across that way to me... 
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That's the nature of the stage magician.
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janet
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 2:08 am Post subject: Re: NS/NB stone circle/Stonehenge charging |
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1X2Willows wrote:
| Quote: | "janet" wrote
1X2Willows wrote:
"Searles O'Dubhain" wrote
"janet" wrote in message
Searles O'Dubhain wrote:
Lspace?
Null-space
How can it be there, if it is not there?
It is not there until it is there. It is created. In this way,
creation is directly linked to non-existence. How does one moment
connect to another? How is space created? What was it before it was
created?
Creationist folly.
I may be many things, but I'm not a creationist, and somehow, Searles
doesn't come across that way to me... :)
That's the nature of the stage magician.
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Wry grin... I deal with creationists on a fairly regular basis,
professionally.... I really don't think that's what's happening here, ymmv
:)
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1X2Willows
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 2:28 am Post subject: Re: NS/NB stone circle/Stonehenge charging |
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"janet" wrote
| Quote: | 1X2Willows wrote:
"janet" wrote
1X2Willows wrote:
"Searles O'Dubhain" wrote
"janet" wrote in message
Searles O'Dubhain wrote:
Lspace?
Null-space
How can it be there, if it is not there?
It is not there until it is there. It is created. In this way,
creation is directly linked to non-existence. How does one moment
connect to another? How is space created? What was it before it was
created?
Creationist folly.
I may be many things, but I'm not a creationist, and somehow, Searles
doesn't come across that way to me... :)
That's the nature of the stage magician.
Wry grin... I deal with creationists on a fairly regular basis,
professionally.... I really don't think that's what's happening here, ymmv
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Welcome to alt.religion.druid
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janet
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 2:42 am Post subject: Re: NS/NB stone circle/Stonehenge charging |
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1X2Willows wrote:
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Welcome to alt.religion.druid
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Thank you. I'm really only here because of the cross post... I hope cross
posts aren't frowned on too highly?
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Halla
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 3:22 am Post subject: Re: NS/NB stone circle/Stonehenge charging |
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On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 18:31:12 +0100, "janet" <janet@karlsforums.com>
blethered:
| Quote: | Searles O'Dubhain wrote:
"janet" <janet@karlsforums.com> wrote in message
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Wood Avens wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 22:19:44 +0100, "janet" <janet@karlsforums.com
wrote:
Stonehenge is still there more or less as the builders left it -
who are we to change what they did?
I'm inclined to think that Stonehenge also encompasses, and quite
happily contains, any number of different and sometimes incompatible
visions. So although from one perspective I'd see attempts at
charging a part of it as - well, let's say inappropriate - I can't
imagine that Stonehenge itself will mind very much.
TBH, I agree with you and actually have some concern for what it
might do to someone who tried....
Perhaps it would generate an entirely different spark of life within
them?
It might... which of course brings with it an entirely different set of
ethical questions... :)
But I was more thinking, "Stonehenge. *OLD*, long used, big... and then...
"human mind".... not so old, certainly not so big... (which is no comment on
any particular human mind, just minds in general...)....
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Perhaps if one had a mind which did not follow (societal) 'normal'
tracks in the first place, one may be able to interact with Stonehenge
in a way that was a) personally meaningful and/or b) not mind-fusingly
overwhelming?
Not quite sure where that thought wants to go, just that perhaps it's
not a case of 'straightening' energies so much as having one's own
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1X2Willows
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 3:49 am Post subject: Re: NS/NB stone circle/Stonehenge charging |
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"janet" wrote
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Welcome to alt.religion.druid
Thank you. I'm really only here because of the cross post... I hope cross
posts aren't frowned on too highly?
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- on a.r.d.?
Certaily not --- as long as they're on topic with anything 'celtic'.
Please feel free to omit the others.
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janet
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 2:18 pm Post subject: Re: NS/NB stone circle/Stonehenge charging |
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Halla wrote:
| Quote: | On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 18:31:12 +0100, "janet" <janet@karlsforums.com
blethered:
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But I was more thinking, "Stonehenge. *OLD*, long used, big... and
then... "human mind".... not so old, certainly not so big... (which
is no comment on any particular human mind, just minds in
general...)....
Perhaps if one had a mind which did not follow (societal) 'normal'
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Define... :)
| Quote: | tracks in the first place, one may be able to interact with Stonehenge
in a way that was a) personally meaningful and/or b) not mind-fusingly
overwhelming?
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Entirely possible - which is why I didn't rush in with the cautionary note
in the first place.
However, *any* contact with (insert word here, from my pov "the divine"
might be good, but that-which-is-other will also work) has the possiblity of
being mind-blowing, if not mind fusing. The mystics, for instance, often
waxed annoyed at their inability to relate exactly what they had
experienced.
Whether that needs to be mind-*fusing* is another matter...
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Not quite sure where that thought wants to go, just that perhaps it's
not a case of 'straightening' energies so much as having one's own
mind de-kinked a little?
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Entirely possible, but I think that would be something without the direction
involved of, "I am going to fix this". I'm not saying that should not be
done, but rather interested (in a detached-from-the-individual way) in the
ethics, etc. of such a situation (and I do mean detached from the
individual).
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janet
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 2:19 pm Post subject: Re: NS/NB stone circle/Stonehenge charging |
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1X2Willows wrote:
| Quote: | "janet" wrote
1X2Willows wrote:
Welcome to alt.religion.druid
Thank you. I'm really only here because of the cross post... I hope
cross posts aren't frowned on too highly?
- on a.r.d.?
Certaily not --- as long as they're on topic with anything 'celtic'.
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My normal response to that would be, "define "celtic"" but in this instance,
I'm going to have more sense and not say it. :)
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Please feel free to omit the others.
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Jo B....
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:44 pm Post subject: Catching threads was Re: NS/NB stone circle/Stonehenge charg |
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"Jani" <jani@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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"Wood Avens" <woodavens@askjennison.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 09:54:22 +0100, "Niamh"
a_hart@NOSPAMblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
(If it is a Troll I'm sorry I have bated it .I had to vent my spleen)
He's not a troll. It's just that his reality doesn't always coincide
with that of other people.
I liked Jani's reply ("Sounds like you're not connecting with the
original energy, you're connecting with residue"), which I thought
probably hit the nail on the head.
Well, David makes sense, in my particular thread of reality. Unfortunately
he generally sees a *lot* of threads, all at the same time, and with
several
dimensions going back, forth and sideways. So I pick on the ones I can
actually catch hold of in passing :)
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This is an interesting notion all on it's own. Something I have noticed in
certain (but not all) people who have mental or emotional problems.
Occasionally you get one or two who _seem_ to have a bit of an answer but it
gets all jumbled up with the other clutter that doesn't get filtered out.
Like a psychic version of autism.
Any other thoughts on this?
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Rhyanon
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 7:38 pm Post subject: Re: Catching threads was Re: NS/NB stone circle/Stonehenge c |
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"Jo B...." <jo_blair(nospam)@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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"Jani" <jani@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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"Wood Avens" <woodavens@askjennison.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 09:54:22 +0100, "Niamh"
a_hart@NOSPAMblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
(If it is a Troll I'm sorry I have bated it .I had to vent my spleen)
He's not a troll. It's just that his reality doesn't always coincide
with that of other people.
I liked Jani's reply ("Sounds like you're not connecting with the
original energy, you're connecting with residue"), which I thought
probably hit the nail on the head.
Well, David makes sense, in my particular thread of reality.
Unfortunately
he generally sees a *lot* of threads, all at the same time, and with
several
dimensions going back, forth and sideways. So I pick on the ones I can
actually catch hold of in passing :)
Jani
This is an interesting notion all on it's own. Something I have noticed in
certain (but not all) people who have mental or emotional problems.
Occasionally you get one or two who _seem_ to have a bit of an answer but
it
gets all jumbled up with the other clutter that doesn't get filtered out.
Like a psychic version of autism.
Any other thoughts on this?
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Perhaps the 'incorrect wiring' and chemical anomalies that [in part] cause
mental illness affect the metaphysical senses similarly. It isn't as if a
lot of reliable studies are conducted on this topic. ;}
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Rhyanon
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 7:40 pm Post subject: Re: NS/NB stone circle/Stonehenge charging |
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| Quote: | In article <10dqqu5go1o7sb9@corp.supernews.com>, Rhyanon quietly
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"Spyder" <news1@spyder.me.uk> wrote in message
This all invokes a plethora of questions
All of which boil down to:
Is Dave hurting anything?
No.
Is Dave making himself happy?
Yes.
Which makes the rest of your questions pointless.
Which suggests that you have little faith in what Dave's trying to
achieve.
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What difference does my faith make? It's his banana to peel.
At no point did I question Dave's choice of working, but only
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Defensive little pissant, ain't ya? I guess you don't have much faith in
his banana, either. Again, what difference does your faith make?
If there is something that
| Quote: | needs charging, and he feels he is someone who can achieve that, then
good for him for standing by his convictions and persevering.
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Exactly -- so why are you fucking with him?
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to other people..."
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Rhyanon
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 7:41 pm Post subject: Re: NS/NB stone circle/Stonehenge charging |
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| Quote: | In article <MPG.1b47648d79a3f901989a27@news.individual.net>,
Spyder <news1@spyder.me.uk> wrote:
In article <b74nd0d9b7krjl6u1eirvm3etdt180jeh4@4ax.com>, David Dalton
quietly whispered...
One side of the real Stonehenge needs charging but
I am unable to do it remotely it seems, but can only
do it when I visit.
This all invokes a plethora of questions
I wouldn't worry, Spyder. The spirit form of Stonehenge is perfectly
capable of looking after itself in any number of ways, and attempts to
change it could be compared with attempting to empty the Atlantic with a
teaspoon. I'm inclined to agree with Rhyanon.
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Oh, no! Now the pissy little puler's gonna whine at you, too! >_<
--
"There's this song in praise of full moons in general", said Magrat." And
then we have to raise our consciousness.It really ought to be full moon for
that, I'm afraid. Moons are very important." Granny gave her a long,
calculating look. "That's modern witchcraft for you, is it?" she said. "Each
to her own, but I'm blowed if *I'll* let a ball of shiny rock tell *me* what
to do." "Yes, bugger all that," said Nanny. "Let's curse somebody!"
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 7:43 pm Post subject: Re: NS/NB stone circle/Stonehenge charging |
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See? The pissy little puler whined at you , too! Why? I dunno; he sounds
like his parents were related. Or maybe he smokes crack. Or maybe both. I
don't much care -- I gots no use for tissypantsed, addlepated little
wannabes like this .....
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"Any fool can be a witch with a runic knife; it takes real _skill_ to be one
with an apple corer."
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| Quote: | In article <4cc537edffNimue@ukgateway.net>, Nuala quietly whispered...
I wouldn't worry, Spyder. The spirit form of Stonehenge is perfectly
capable of looking after itself in any number of ways, and attempts to
change it could be compared with attempting to empty the Atlantic with a
teaspoon. I'm inclined to agree with Rhyanon.
Agree with Rhyanon on what? That we shouldn't ask questions?
The questions were intended to to discover Dave's motives for his
charging of the circle. At no point did I question the validity of the
act, but rather wanted to to understand the reasons behind his choice.
If there has been any change to Stonehenge that someone knows about I'd
be interested to know what they know about it.
Stonehenge may very well look after itself, but as Jani says, Dave may
be connecting to the residue, and if it is the residue that needs he
feels needs cleansing I'd be curious to know the whys and wherefores.
We should, I think, be asking the same questions of ourselves when we
set out on such a task.
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leather because it's safer to harass rich women than bikers.
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