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Scott Lowther
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 Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 8:11 am Post subject: OT: Humor |
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Finally cobbled this friggen' page together...
http://up-ship.com/Stuff/Humor/humor.htm
Beware, Eric.
However, those with actual senses of humor and a liking for cats may
well enjoy this. |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:04 am Post subject: Re: OT: Humor |
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Scott Lowther wrote:
Never far from your thoughts? |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:28 am Post subject: Re: OT: Humor |
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When I come to ARA, no. When I return to The Real World, you vanish.
So: did you bother to look at the humor page? |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:52 am Post subject: Re: OT: Humor |
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lexcorp@ix.netcom.com wrote:
| Quote: | When I come to ARA, no. When I return to The Real World, you vanish.
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Ya know, I respect that statement.
| Quote: | So: did you bother to look at the humor page?
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Yup. Some good ones- Muppet Malfunction comes to mind- but a lot of it
I'd have be to wired starboard, so it comes across as nonsensical-haha
rather than funny-haha. For example, Democrats as Nazis is like a bird
as a banana...just weird. (Probably similar to your reaction to Tom
Tomorrow, who makes me laugh until it hurts).
Eric |
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Scott Lowther
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 6:09 am Post subject: Re: OT: Humor |
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quiquiribu_mandinga@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | So: did you bother to look at the humor page?
Yup. Some good ones- Muppet Malfunction comes to mind-
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You asked not long ago if I'd support arms restrictions. If I ever came
home and found this, the answer would be a definite "yes."
http://up-ship.com/Stuff/Humor/critter008.jpg
| Quote: | but a lot of it
I'd have be to wired starboard, so it comes across as nonsensical-haha
rather than funny-haha. For example, Democrats as Nazis is like a bird
as a banana...just weird.
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Makes more sense than Bush-As-Hitler. Who is it that supports
thought-crime laws and rules? Hint: Republicans rarely ever support
speech regualtions on campus or bullshit "hate crime" laws.
And I bet you loved this one:
http://up-ship.com/Stuff/Humor/hum051.gif
| Quote: | (Probably similar to your reaction to Tom
Tomorrow, who makes me laugh until it hurts).
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Usually cartoons are supposed to be funny. Tom Tomorrow is evidence that
that is not the case. |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 6:32 am Post subject: Re: OT: Humor |
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Scott Lowther wrote:
| Quote: | Republicans rarely ever support
speech regualtions on campus or bullshit "hate crime" laws.
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Republican assaults on the free press are much more insidious. I can
expound, if you'd like, or just leaf through the links on my page at
your leisure.
Now "hate crime" laws, to turn this toward a real discussion, I'm torn.
On the one hand, a deed is a deed, regardless of the motive or the
words. On the other hand, if we as a society understand the importance
of breaking down categorical hatreds, why would be it be such a stretch
to say that as a social harm, criminal deeds along such lines are
particularly insidious? In the same way that a killing in the
commission of a robbery is punished more harshly than some others. In a
sense, a crime committed from categorical hatred is a crime directed at
the entire class of people in that category. Those people have a valid
interest in stopping further such crimes, and all others have a vested
interest in avoiding the sorts of communal one-off so common in, for
example, India. Not a matter of speech, but of motive.
This is another issue where I don't have a strong feeling one way or
the other, but I'm sure you'll soon tell me what a Spawn of Satan I am.
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Ed Clowes
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 7:01 am Post subject: Re: OT: Humor |
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In article <1118280743.390957.123070@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
quiquiribu_mandinga@yahoo.com says...
| Quote: | Scott Lowther wrote:
Republicans rarely ever support
speech regualtions on campus or bullshit "hate crime" laws.
Republican assaults on the free press are much more insidious. I can
expound, if you'd like, or just leaf through the links on my page at
your leisure.
Now "hate crime" laws, to turn this toward a real discussion, I'm torn.
On the one hand, a deed is a deed, regardless of the motive or the
words. On the other hand, if we as a society understand the importance
of breaking down categorical hatreds, why would be it be such a stretch
to say that as a social harm, criminal deeds along such lines are
particularly insidious? In the same way that a killing in the
commission of a robbery is punished more harshly than some others. In a
sense, a crime committed from categorical hatred is a crime directed at
the entire class of people in that category. Those people have a valid
interest in stopping further such crimes, and all others have a vested
interest in avoiding the sorts of communal one-off so common in, for
example, India. Not a matter of speech, but of motive.
This is another issue where I don't have a strong feeling one way or
the other, but I'm sure you'll soon tell me what a Spawn of Satan I am.
In my view, "hate crime" = "thought crime". One is being punished for |
what one was thinking, or is presumed to have been thinking, at the time
the crime was committed, or before it, or just in general about the
particular victim.
That is why the very concept disgusts me.
Generally speaking, those who are of a mind to commit a "hate crime" are
not the brightest bulbs on the tree to begin with. When a class of
people they despise for whatever reason gains a special privilege- ie,
special protections due to hate crime legislation- the knuckledraggers
see it as a vindication of their beliefs. Which fuels their rage. As
it has been said before, "you cannot legislate morality". Or common
sense, or warm fuzzy feelings for other people.
Have Fun,
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 7:04 am Post subject: Re: OT: Humor |
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Ed Clowes wrote:
| Quote: | When a class of
people they despise for whatever reason gains a special privilege- ie,
special protections due to hate crime legislation- the knuckledraggers
see it as a vindication of their beliefs. Which fuels their rage
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That's an interesting point, and one I hadn't heard raised with this
issue.
Eric |
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Scott Lowther
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 7:22 am Post subject: Re: OT: Humor |
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quiquiribu_mandinga@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | Scott Lowther wrote:
Republicans rarely ever support
speech regualtions on campus or bullshit "hate crime" laws.
Republican assaults on the free press are much more insidious. I can
expound,
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I'm sure you can. Republicans, however, don;t get peopel arrested, fined
or kicked out of college for sayign somethign politically incorrect.
Since the Internet is on the scene, the "Main Stream Media" can go piss
up a rope... the leftist bais is evident to all but the most zealous
left-wingers, and their influence is seriously waning. Look how
effectively the Pajamahedeen revealed the facts about Dan Rather's lies
to the public. Before the Net, Rather would ahve gotten away with it.
| Quote: | On the other hand, if we as a society understand the importance
of breaking down categorical hatreds, why would be it be such a stretch
to say that as a social harm, criminal deeds along such lines are
particularly insidious?
Because they aren;t. If Joe decides to beat the tar out of Bill because |
Bill is black, gay, Jewish, transgendered, Conservative, white or merely
available, it makes zero difference. But by picking oput some groups as
special, it sets up societal views that some people are more worthy of
protection than others.
| Quote: | In the same way that a killing in the
commission of a robbery is punished more harshly than some others. In a
sense, a crime committed from categorical hatred is a crime directed at
the entire class of people in that category. Those people have a valid
interest in stopping further such crimes
Then the *crime* should be prosecuted. |
| Quote: | This is another issue where I don't have a strong feeling one way or
the other, but I'm sure you'll soon tell me what a Spawn of Satan I am.
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Something to confess? |
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Romauld
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:42 pm Post subject: Re: OT: Humor |
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Recently, a script from quiquiribu_mandinga@yahoo.com arrived, in which they said:
: Now "hate crime" laws, to turn this toward a real discussion, I'm torn.
: On the one hand, a deed is a deed, regardless of the motive or the
: words. On the other hand, if we as a society understand the importance
: of breaking down categorical hatreds, why would be it be such a stretch
: to say that as a social harm, criminal deeds along such lines are
: particularly insidious?
This issue was explored very well by Aaron Sorkin and the actors
of the TV drama "The West Wing", in an episode in the first season.
~R
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Romauld - romauld at necrotheque dot dcu
All Pagans who think of themselves as Elders should read this:
http://www.partiallyclips.com/pages/archive.php?id=1021&b=1 |
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PSn
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:33 pm Post subject: Re: OT: Humor |
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"Scott Lowther" <scottlowther@ix.netcom.SPAMBLOK.com> wrote in message
news:RJNpe.152$yg4.104@news01.roc.ny...
| Quote: | quiquiribu_mandinga@yahoo.com wrote:
Scott Lowther wrote:
Republicans rarely ever support
speech regualtions on campus or bullshit "hate crime" laws.
Republican assaults on the free press are much more insidious. I can
expound,
I'm sure you can. Republicans, however, don;t get peopel arrested, fined
or kicked out of college for sayign somethign politically incorrect.
Since the Internet is on the scene, the "Main Stream Media" can go piss
up a rope... the leftist bais is evident to all but the most zealous
left-wingers, and their influence is seriously waning. Look how
effectively the Pajamahedeen revealed the facts about Dan Rather's lies
to the public. Before the Net, Rather would ahve gotten away with it.
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I remember after 9/11, all the republican pundits were on full-alert for
anyone showing any signs of deviance from Bush's plans; during the lead-up
to the Iraq war, the buzz-phrase from the right was "Why do you hate
America?" to anyone who didn't want to go to war.
On every channel, not just Fox News, an Anti-war protest that drew thousands
would get a 15 second blurb and maybe a mention on that little newsfeed
scrollbar at the bottom of the screen while a Pro-war protest topping around
a hundred or two people might merit a special 30-minute segment on a news
analysis show.
And I don't believe anyone ever proved Dan Rather LIED; just that he used an
unreliable source.
If using unreliable sources is all it takes to call someone a LIAR and force
them from their job, then why aren't you calling for Bush's resignation for
using an unreliable source for Iraq (a man whose Intel codename was
CURVEBALL)? |
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Scott Lowther
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 6:26 pm Post subject: Re: OT: Humor |
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PSn wrote:
| Quote: | On every channel, not just Fox News, an Anti-war protest that drew thousands
would get a 15 second blurb and maybe a mention on that little newsfeed
scrollbar at the bottom of the screen while a Pro-war protest topping around
a hundred or two people might merit a special 30-minute segment on a news
analysis show.
Well, of course. Anti-war protests are a dime a dozen. Pro-war protests |
are rather an unusual occurance in this country.
| Quote: | If using unreliable sources is all it takes to call someone a LIAR and force
them from their job, then why aren't you calling for Bush's resignation
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Ah, now you're getting somewhere. |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 11:36 pm Post subject: Re: OT: Humor |
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Scott Lowther wrote:
| Quote: | I'm sure you can. Republicans, however, don;t get peopel arrested, fined
or kicked out of college for sayign somethign politically incorrect.
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Have you followed the attacks on critics of Israel? Ward Churchill?
| Quote: | Since the Internet is on the scene, the "Main Stream Media" can go piss
up a rope... the leftist bais is evident to all but the most zealous
left-wingers
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Eric Alterman, "What LIberal Media?" David Brock, anything.
http://www.mediamatters.com
http://www.fair.org
| Quote: | Look how
effectively the Pajamahedeen revealed the facts about Dan Rather's lies
to the public. Before the Net, Rather would ahve gotten away with it.
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Except, of course, that the story about Bush's NG time was true. The
hysterics from the RW were over questionable documents that may have
originated from a Texas pal of Dubya.
As with the Newsweek story, in which they retracted the statement about
the military investigation, the story remains true.
Listened to your comments on the topic with interest, though these
points I have heard before. Still unsure, myself.
| Quote: | This is another issue where I don't have a strong feeling one way or
the other, but I'm sure you'll soon tell me what a Spawn of Satan I am.
Something to confess?
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You should have seen the job offer I had for when the Baathists took
Indianapolis.
Eric |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 11:37 pm Post subject: Re: OT: Humor |
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Romauld wrote:
| Quote: | This issue was explored very well by Aaron Sorkin and the actors
of the TV drama "The West Wing", in an episode in the first season.
~R
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Romauld - romauld at necrotheque dot dcu
All Pagans who think of themselves as Elders should read this:
http://www.partiallyclips.com/pages/archive.php?id=1021&b=1
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I always mean to watch that show, but never seem to find the time. I
hear good things about it.
Eric |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 11:40 pm Post subject: Re: OT: Humor |
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PSn wrote:
| Quote: | On every channel, not just Fox News, an Anti-war protest that drew thousands
would get a 15 second blurb and maybe a mention on that little newsfeed
scrollbar at the bottom of the screen while a Pro-war protest topping around
a hundred or two people might merit a special 30-minute segment on a news
analysis show.
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The hundreds of thousands who marched against the war nationwide on the
anniversary of it's start- what, 800 different protests?- are
instructive. Very little coverage.
Eric |
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