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 Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:34 am Post subject: OT: Update on an oldie but a goodie |
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http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_3830149,00.html
Shadows of doubt
News finds problems in all four major areas before CU panel
By Charlie Brennan, Kevin Flynn, Laura Frank, Berny Morson and Kevin
Vaughan, Rocky Mountain News
June 4, 2005
University of Colorado professor Ward Churchill fabricated historical
facts, published the work of others as his own and repeatedly made false
claims about two federal Indian laws, a Rocky Mountain News
investigation has found.
The two-month News investigation, carried out at the same time Churchill
and his work are being carefully examined by the university, also
unearthed fresh genealogical information that casts new doubts on the
professor's long-held assertion that he is of American Indian ancestry.
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he News found serious problems in all four of the major areas the panel
is examining:
• He accused the U.S. Army of deliberately spreading smallpox among the
Mandan Indians of the Upper Missouri River Valley in 1837 — but there's
no basis for the assertion in the sources he cited. In fact, in some
instances the books he cited — and their authors — directly contradict
his assertions.
• He published an essay in 1992 that largely copies the work of a
Canadian professor. But the piece is credited to his own research
organization, the Institute for Natural Progress. Churchill published
that essay — with some minor changes and subtle altering of words — even
though the writer, Fay G. Cohen, had withdrawn permission for him to use
it.
He also published portions of an essay in a 1993 book that closely
resemble a piece that appeared the year before under the byline of
Rebecca L. Robbins. However, the News could not determine what occurred.
Churchill said he initially wrote the piece and allowed Robbins to
publish it under her name. Robbins did not return numerous messages left
by the News.
The News also could not determine who actually wrote an essay published
under the name of Churchill's former wife, Marie Anne Jaimes, who also
goes by Annette Jaimes. A paragraph from that essay also was published
in a Churchill essay.
• He mischaracterized an important federal Indian law in repeated
writings in the past two decades, saying that the General Allotment Act
of 1887 established a "blood quantum" standard that allowed tribes to
admit members only if they had at least "half" native blood. Churchill
has accused the government of imposing what he called "a formal eugenics
code" as part of a thinly veiled effort to define Indians out of
existence. The News found that the law — while a legislative low point
in Indian history that resulted in many tribes losing their lands — does
not contain any requirements for Indian bloodlines.
In addition, the News found, Churchill similarly mischaracterized a more
recent piece of legislation, the Indian Arts and Crafts Act of 1990.
• He has repeatedly claimed to have American Indian ancestry, but an
extensive examination of genealogical records that traced branches of
both sides of Churchill's family to pre-Revolutionary War times turned
up no solid evidence of a single Indian ancestor. In addition, the News
found that DNA tests taken last year by two brothers prove that the
father of Joshua Tyner — Joshua Tyner is the ancestor Churchill most
often has cited for his Indian lineage — was not Indian.
During its investigation, the News also unearthed other evidence of
possible research misconduct by Churchill that has not been taken to the
faculty committee.
In one instance, the News discovered an obscure 1972 pamphlet written by
activists in Canada that Churchill later began claiming as his own work.
And in at least three other cases, the News revealed Friday, he
published works by others without their permission. Churchill credited
authors Robert T. Coulter, Rudolph C. Ryser and Elizabeth Cook-Lynn, but
didn't notify them that he was publishing their articles.
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The entire article (this is only a small portion of it) makes for very
entertaining reading, and there's a whole weeks worth more coming. |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:16 pm Post subject: Re: OT: Update on an oldie but a goodie |
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Not merely old news, but as inconclusive as everything preceding it.
Churchill is an odd obsession, Scott.
Scott Lowther wrote:
> News finds problems in all four major areas before CU panel |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:12 pm Post subject: Re: OT: Update on an oldie but a goodie |
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It's part of the usual machine of anyone who says anything critical of the
current government.
If I were prone to conspiracies, I'd almost say that the slow breakdown and
destruction of intelligent and rational debate was intentional. But it just
seems to be a side-effect of Rovian politic.
It's the same thing with any group or person who says anything bad about the
current administration or the concepts on which it rests. They first have
to find something in there, a word or two that seems especially extremist
(something like "little Eichmanns" or "Gulag"), then they dig up evidence on
the person (killing the messenger, rather than attacking the message). Then
they pile this all on top, hound him about the accusations against him until
the guy either shuts up or snaps and causes an incident.
Rational minds actually read a message before they attack it, they note
arguments (not just out-of-context quotes), and then refute them logically.
Rovian politics assumes the vast majority of the population is too stupid to
handle rational arguments, so it proceeds with character attacks and appeals
to emotion. Sad thing; it seems to be working VERY well.
<hulk_arnold_hercules@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Not merely old news, but as inconclusive as everything preceding it.
Churchill is an odd obsession, Scott.
Scott Lowther wrote:
News finds problems in all four major areas before CU panel
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| Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:27 pm Post subject: Re: OT: Update on an oldie but a goodie |
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| Quote: | Churchill is an odd obsession, Scott.
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Strange statement coming from *you*. And very telling: I simply read a
news article, and you see it as "obsession." Perrhaps you need to find
a mirror? |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:29 pm Post subject: Re: OT: Update on an oldie but a goodie |
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The Rocky Mountain News is not a part of the government. Churchill is a
publicity whore, and he's found that *sometimes* some in the press will
actually go to the effort of checking facts. He's built his career on
lies, and they are finally biting him in the ass.
Read the article. |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:24 am Post subject: Re: OT: Update on an oldie but a goodie |
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PSn wrote:
| Quote: | If I were prone to conspiracies, I'd almost say that the slow breakdown and
destruction of intelligent and rational debate was intentional. But it just
seems to be a side-effect of Rovian politic.
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I think you're right, that there's an effort to make dissent unpleasant
and in the process, to drive people to silence.
There was a study a few years ago measuring the effect of Rush
Limbaugh. He made rightwingers more dedicated, which is an anticipated
result of his propaganda. One would've thought that the effect on
non-RWers would've been to persuade them or polarize them further. In
fact, it was found that the level of discourse caused most to withdraw
from politics. They were there for discourse, and got demonization.
This is why it's good to have redneck liberals out there with a mean
streak. Give me Carville over Colmes any day, as long as there's some
Stephanie Miller humor and some American Prospect policy-discussion
with it.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:33 am Post subject: Re: OT: Update on an oldie but a goodie |
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Churchill only got attention because the current Administration's official
mouthpiece, Fox News, brought attention to a local campus controversy about
a controversial professor. The professor has been infamously
anti-Conservative (note I'm not saying "liberal", there IS a difference) and
anti-Bush.
If it weren't for FNC, you know how much people would care about Churchill?
About as much as you care about the condition of my car.
<lexcorp@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | The Rocky Mountain News is not a part of the government. Churchill is a
publicity whore, and he's found that *sometimes* some in the press will
actually go to the effort of checking facts. He's built his career on
lies, and they are finally biting him in the ass.
Read the article.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:37 am Post subject: Re: OT: Update on an oldie but a goodie |
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They don't want "uppity" liberals on TV and radio; they want liberals who
make small jabs back when they're hit over the head with a sledgehammer of
irrelevant invective.
Example-
Hannity asks a person on his show why he hates America.
A month later, Colmes calls him on it.
Hannity says that he's never accused a fellow American why they hate
America.
Colmes drops the issue, doesn't call his BS.
<liberalbear@lycos.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | PSn wrote:
If I were prone to conspiracies, I'd almost say that the slow breakdown
and
destruction of intelligent and rational debate was intentional. But it
just
seems to be a side-effect of Rovian politic.
I think you're right, that there's an effort to make dissent unpleasant
and in the process, to drive people to silence.
There was a study a few years ago measuring the effect of Rush
Limbaugh. He made rightwingers more dedicated, which is an anticipated
result of his propaganda. One would've thought that the effect on
non-RWers would've been to persuade them or polarize them further. In
fact, it was found that the level of discourse caused most to withdraw
from politics. They were there for discourse, and got demonization.
This is why it's good to have redneck liberals out there with a mean
streak. Give me Carville over Colmes any day, as long as there's some
Stephanie Miller humor and some American Prospect policy-discussion
with it.
Eric
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| Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:40 am Post subject: Re: OT: Update on an oldie but a goodie |
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PSn wrote:
| Quote: | Churchill only got attention because...
.... he's a loud-mouthed attention whore. When I lived in the Denver area |
5 years ago, he was constantly trying to get in the news. Well, he
finally succeeded, and the Rocky Mountain News is pointing out the pack
of incredible bullshit he used to build a fraudulent career in academia.
| Quote: | If it weren't for FNC, you know how much people would care about Churchill?
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In the Denver/Boulder area, quite a number. Among taxpayers of Colorado,
quite a number. Among native Americans, quite a large number. And among
historians, a very large number.
Churchill's biggest crime has not been screwball political activism, but
historical revisionism. He has invented genocides out of whole cloth in
order to advance his career. He doesn;t even have the excuse of having
just made mistakes... he's made things up.
And he's a TEACHER.
If it weren't for the media in general, who woudl really have given a
shit about Michael Jackson? or Scott Peterson? Or Jon Benet Ramsey? |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:31 pm Post subject: Re: OT: Update on an oldie but a goodie |
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So, he's an attention whore.
And you don't like him.
So you give him what he wants; attention.
O....KAAAAY...
"Scott Lowther" <scottlowther@ix.netcom.SPAMBLOK.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | PSn wrote:
Churchill only got attention because...
... he's a loud-mouthed attention whore. When I lived in the Denver area
5 years ago, he was constantly trying to get in the news. Well, he
finally succeeded, and the Rocky Mountain News is pointing out the pack
of incredible bullshit he used to build a fraudulent career in academia.
If it weren't for FNC, you know how much people would care about
Churchill?
In the Denver/Boulder area, quite a number. Among taxpayers of Colorado,
quite a number. Among native Americans, quite a large number. And among
historians, a very large number.
Churchill's biggest crime has not been screwball political activism, but
historical revisionism. He has invented genocides out of whole cloth in
order to advance his career. He doesn;t even have the excuse of having
just made mistakes... he's made things up.
And he's a TEACHER.
If it weren't for the media in general, who woudl really have given a
shit about Michael Jackson? or Scott Peterson? Or Jon Benet Ramsey? |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:29 am Post subject: Re: OT: Update on an oldie but a goodie |
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| Quote: | So you give him what he wants; attention.
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Indeed. Sometimes too much of a good thing can bite someone in the ass.
In Ward's case, shining a good deal of light on him not only reveals
him for the liar he is (with the hopeful consequence of removing him
from a position of academic authority, but also helping to scour away
the bullshit he's fed into "history"), it also helps point out those
who are more willign to buy into nonsense than reality. Some on this
very thread, for example, who feel that Wards lies are truth. |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 6:05 am Post subject: Re: OT: Update on an oldie but a goodie |
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lexcorp@ix.netcom.com wrote:
| Quote: | Some on this
very thread, for example, who feel that Wards lies are truth.
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Who, and what lie, for instance? I recall making some detailed, nuanced
posts on a number of issues related to Churchill, and you've a tendency
to simplify and misrepresent the positions of others, so for whom the
insinuation tolls?
Eric |
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Scott Lowther
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 7:04 am Post subject: Re: OT: Update on an oldie but a goodie |
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quiquiribu_mandinga@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | lexcorp@ix.netcom.com wrote:
Some on this
very thread, for example, who feel that Wards lies are truth.
Who, and what lie, for instance? I recall making some detailed, nuanced
posts
I'm sure you do. |
Ward has lied and flat-out made up stuff about a great many things,
including matters of historical fact, and *somebodies* response to that
hereabotus was somethign to the effect of "prove he lied." Since it is
the burden of someone making a claim (such as Ward's claim that the US
Army conducted biological warfare int he 1830's, a fact which has
steadfastly refused to have any basis in reality) to prove the claim,
and since Ward has not only not done so but has been shown to be a liar
and a thief on many occaisions, it is *Wards* responsibility to back up
his claims. |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 11:45 pm Post subject: Re: OT: Update on an oldie but a goodie |
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Scott Lowther wrote:
| Quote: | Ward has lied and flat-out made up stuff about a great many things,
including matters of historical fact, and *somebodies* response to that
hereabotus was somethign to the effect of "prove he lied." Since it is
the burden of someone making a claim (such as Ward's claim that the US
Army conducted biological warfare int he 1830's, a fact which has
steadfastly refused to have any basis in reality) to prove the claim,
and since Ward has not only not done so but has been shown to be a liar
and a thief on many occaisions, it is *Wards* responsibility to back up
his claims.
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So, let me get this straight. Ward has an opinion on the 1837 smallpox
epidemic among the Mandan that you consider a lie. You are outraged
(though I have a hard time believing you care at all about the 1837
Mandan tribe).
Bush lies to drag people into a war, again and again and again,
thousands dead, his pals profiteering, torture in illegal prisons, etc.
Not a problem to you.
M'kay, whatever.
Eric |
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| Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 2:30 am Post subject: Re: OT: Update on an oldie but a goodie |
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| Quote: | Bush lies to drag people into a war
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ERRR. Wrong, but thanks for playing. |
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