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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Duke Calls Pope a Heathen! Reply with quote

In article <32ida4lhndn447l04dkava50rlubea76g7@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

Quote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 03:56:14 -0700, r@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:

In article <g85ba2039@enews5.newsguy.com>, "AGGreen" <AGG@not the
imposter.edu> wrote:

Digimortal@starpower.net> wrote in message
news:13c99688-fc3c-4c54-ad96-95f4ff86a0ce@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
Yeah, so what! Still has NOTHING to do with Rome nor some imagined
"papacy".

duke wrote:
Peter was the man with the job description of Holy Father long
before he
was the
patriarch of Antioch, which was founded by Peter and Paul.


***And Peter and Paul co-organized the followers of Christ in Rome!

• "The Christ" was a human construct that began in the 2nd Century, long
after the rabbi who called himself "the Son of man" was out of here.

Anybody that can walk out of his grave after being dead for 3 days is
more than
a rabbi.

• agreed. however, he does not pass the sacrifice test because he

suffered no permanent loss.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Duke Calls Pope a Heathen! Reply with quote

In article <g86jao0t6u@enews2.newsguy.com>, "AGGreen" <AGG@not the
imposter.edu> wrote:

Quote:
"•R. L. Measures" <r@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r-1608080356140001@192.168.1.46...
In article <g85ba2039@enews5.newsguy.com>, "AGGreen" <AGG@not the
imposter.edu> wrote:

Digimortal@starpower.net> wrote in message
news:13c99688-fc3c-4c54-ad96-95f4ff86a0ce@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
Yeah, so what! Still has NOTHING to do with Rome nor some imagined
"papacy".

duke wrote:
Peter was the man with the job description of Holy Father long before
he
was the
patriarch of Antioch, which was founded by Peter and Paul.


***And Peter and Paul co-organized the followers of Christ in Rome!

• "The Christ" was a human construct that began in the 2nd Century, long
after the rabbi who called himself "the Son of man" was out of here.

***You're saying that Christ was not human when he lived on earth. Duh!

• For organized religion, problems with the Son of man's teaching were
that God listenes to us in the privacy of our own closets, and that divine
forgiveness for our trespasses spontaneously occurs as we forgive those
who trespass against us -- but within reason. IOW boys and girls, we
don't need "holy" men and their artificial constructs. Therefore, it
comes as no surprise that in the end "holy" men successfully sought his
demise.

cheerz AG.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:59 pm    Post subject: Re: The Ancient Church of Georgia Reply with quote

***I'll bet he believes that having the Virgin Mary foremost in his thinking
and prayer life is the same as having Jesus in the fore.


<Digimortal@starpower.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
Sure I have Duckbrain. You are just too inept to have read it LOL!
Also it was too fun watching you trip all over yourself calling me
Jewish and the like...you are so easy.

duke wrote:
If you were EOC and a trinitarian, you'd admit it. So far you have
refused to
do either, Jewish boy.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:32 am    Post subject: Re: Duke Calls Pope a Heathen! Reply with quote

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 06:56:54 -0700, r@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:

Quote:
In article <32ida4lhndn447l04dkava50rlubea76g7@4ax.com>, duke
duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 03:56:14 -0700, r@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:

In article <g85ba2039@enews5.newsguy.com>, "AGGreen" <AGG@not the
imposter.edu> wrote:

Digimortal@starpower.net> wrote in message
news:13c99688-fc3c-4c54-ad96-95f4ff86a0ce@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
Yeah, so what! Still has NOTHING to do with Rome nor some imagined
"papacy".

duke wrote:
Peter was the man with the job description of Holy Father long
before he
was the
patriarch of Antioch, which was founded by Peter and Paul.


***And Peter and Paul co-organized the followers of Christ in Rome!

• "The Christ" was a human construct that began in the 2nd Century, long
after the rabbi who called himself "the Son of man" was out of here.

Anybody that can walk out of his grave after being dead for 3 days is
more than
a rabbi.

• agreed. however, he does not pass the sacrifice test because he
suffered no permanent loss.

But he did die fully as a man. And he felt every nail, scourge, spearpoint, etc
he received. He was a man that died a horrible death on the cross, but was
raised by his Father as an example to us.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:35 am    Post subject: Re: Duke Calls Pope a Heathen! Reply with quote

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 07:07:01 -0700, r@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:

Quote:
In article <g86jao0t6u@enews2.newsguy.com>, "AGGreen" <AGG@not the
imposter.edu> wrote:

"•R. L. Measures" <r@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r-1608080356140001@192.168.1.46...
In article <g85ba2039@enews5.newsguy.com>, "AGGreen" <AGG@not the
imposter.edu> wrote:

Digimortal@starpower.net> wrote in message
news:13c99688-fc3c-4c54-ad96-95f4ff86a0ce@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
Yeah, so what! Still has NOTHING to do with Rome nor some imagined
"papacy".

duke wrote:
Peter was the man with the job description of Holy Father long before
he
was the
patriarch of Antioch, which was founded by Peter and Paul.


***And Peter and Paul co-organized the followers of Christ in Rome!

• "The Christ" was a human construct that began in the 2nd Century, long
after the rabbi who called himself "the Son of man" was out of here.

***You're saying that Christ was not human when he lived on earth. Duh!

• For organized religion, problems with the Son of man's teaching were
that God listenes to us in the privacy of our own closets, and that divine
forgiveness for our trespasses spontaneously occurs as we forgive those
who trespass against us -- but within reason.

Wrong on both counts.

God listens to us everywhere, and it's not necessary to visit with him for he
sees you in the closet too.

And the Lord's prayer says noting abut spontaneous forgiveness. I says "if you
don't forgive others, don't expect God to forgive you?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:36 am    Post subject: Re: Duke Calls Pope a Heathen! Reply with quote

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:53:59 -0700 (PDT), "Digimortal@starpower.net"
<Digimortal@starpower.net> wrote:

Quote:
That still has NOTHING to do with Rome nor some imagined "papacy".

Peter was hired in accordance with a job description.

Quote:
duke wrote:
But Peter brought his position of Holy Father to Rome via Antioch. Peter and
Paul formed the patriarch of Antioch, but Peter was Holy Father well before
that.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:41 am    Post subject: Re: Duckbrain Reply with quote

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 07:08:30 -0700, r@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:

Quote:
In article <5mhda4dqmsh047reso7mchgurjeeoamvi1@4ax.com>, duke
duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:17:55 -0700, r@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:

In article <srnaa4lfi4sgpc0qamlq762jvmm226joor@4ax.com>, duke
duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 02:54:35 -0700, r@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:

In article
8b6f6024-4a82-4c70-8b30-b41ffed6714e@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
"Digimortal@starpower.net" <Digimortal@starpower.net> wrote:

Of course I understand it and it has NOTHING to do with the RCC or any
"papacy". Of course I understand why your church had to make all that
up...

duke wrote:
That's because you don't understand how the OT prefaces the NT.
But I don't
consider you the brightest light on the block, so I'm not surprised.

• the hair pull continues.

digitwit is the new ray fischer of the EOC ng. Zero knowledge, zero
words of
value, all smoke and no meat.

• so you enjoy wasting time?

Who says I'm wasting time?

• A barbeque with all smoke and no meat is worthwhile?

Oh, digitwit is cooked, carved, and consumed. He deliberately avoids
discussion, then plays dumb. It's best that he goes away.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:41 am    Post subject: Re: The Ancient Church of Georgia Reply with quote

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:52:38 -0700 (PDT), "Digimortal@starpower.net"
<Digimortal@starpower.net> wrote:

Quote:
Sure I have Duckbrain. You are just too inept to have read it LOL!
Also it was too fun watching you trip all over yourself calling me
Jewish and the like...you are so easy.

No you haven't digitwit.


Quote:
duke wrote:
If you were EOC and a trinitarian, you'd admit it. So far you have refused to
do either, Jewish boy.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:42 am    Post subject: Re: The Ancient Church of Georgia Reply with quote

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 11:59:46 -0400, "AGGreen" <AGG@not the imposter.edu> wrote:

Quote:
***I'll bet he believes that having the Virgin Mary foremost in his thinking
and prayer life is the same as having Jesus in the fore.

Nope, she has no divinity. Your being a protest_er, I understand why you say
that.




Quote:
Digimortal@starpower.net> wrote in message
news:158b3ddc-3fcd-4937-a6f3-b411478972f5@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
Sure I have Duckbrain. You are just too inept to have read it LOL!
Also it was too fun watching you trip all over yourself calling me
Jewish and the like...you are so easy.

duke wrote:
If you were EOC and a trinitarian, you'd admit it. So far you have
refused to
do either, Jewish boy.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:23 am    Post subject: Re: Duke Calls Pope a Heathen! Reply with quote

In article <hoaea4to9sl0ogdfcn97k7nhhmimlg1u4m@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

Quote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 06:56:54 -0700, r@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:

In article <32ida4lhndn447l04dkava50rlubea76g7@4ax.com>, duke
duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 03:56:14 -0700, r@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:

In article <g85ba2039@enews5.newsguy.com>, "AGGreen" <AGG@not the
imposter.edu> wrote:

Digimortal@starpower.net> wrote in message

news:13c99688-fc3c-4c54-ad96-95f4ff86a0ce@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
Yeah, so what! Still has NOTHING to do with Rome nor some imagined
"papacy".

duke wrote:
Peter was the man with the job description of Holy Father long
before he
was the
patriarch of Antioch, which was founded by Peter and Paul.


***And Peter and Paul co-organized the followers of Christ in Rome!

• "The Christ" was a human construct that began in the 2nd Century, long
after the rabbi who called himself "the Son of man" was out of here.

Anybody that can walk out of his grave after being dead for 3 days is
more than
a rabbi.

• agreed. however, he does not pass the sacrifice test because he
suffered no permanent loss.

But he did die fully as a man. And he felt every nail, scourge,
spearpoint, etc
he received. He was a man that died a horrible death on the cross, but was
raised by his Father as an example to us.

• He was not sacrificed - but it matters not since his dad doesn't want any,

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:24 am    Post subject: Re: Duke Calls Pope a Heathen! Reply with quote

In article <jraea4d2jhnlefusfdgmbfokscltjove8j@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

Quote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 07:07:01 -0700, r@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:

In article <g86jao0t6u@enews2.newsguy.com>, "AGGreen" <AGG@not the
imposter.edu> wrote:

"•R. L. Measures" <r@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r-1608080356140001@192.168.1.46...
In article <g85ba2039@enews5.newsguy.com>, "AGGreen" <AGG@not the
imposter.edu> wrote:

Digimortal@starpower.net> wrote in message

news:13c99688-fc3c-4c54-ad96-95f4ff86a0ce@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
Yeah, so what! Still has NOTHING to do with Rome nor some imagined
"papacy".

duke wrote:
Peter was the man with the job description of Holy Father long
before
he
was the
patriarch of Antioch, which was founded by Peter and Paul.


***And Peter and Paul co-organized the followers of Christ in Rome!

• "The Christ" was a human construct that began in the 2nd Century, long
after the rabbi who called himself "the Son of man" was out of here.

***You're saying that Christ was not human when he lived on earth. Duh!

• For organized religion, problems with the Son of man's teaching were
that God listenes to us in the privacy of our own closets, and that divine
forgiveness for our trespasses spontaneously occurs as we forgive those
who trespass against us -- but within reason.

Wrong on both counts.

• Tell that to said rabbi.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:26 am    Post subject: Re: Duckbrain Reply with quote

In article <n8bea4h161gjgvn86ve7hjfchd6gkprcn5@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

Quote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 07:08:30 -0700, r@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:

In article <5mhda4dqmsh047reso7mchgurjeeoamvi1@4ax.com>, duke
duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:17:55 -0700, r@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:

In article <srnaa4lfi4sgpc0qamlq762jvmm226joor@4ax.com>, duke
duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 02:54:35 -0700, r@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:

In article
8b6f6024-4a82-4c70-8b30-b41ffed6714e@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
"Digimortal@starpower.net" <Digimortal@starpower.net> wrote:

Of course I understand it and it has NOTHING to do with the RCC
or any
"papacy". Of course I understand why your church had to make all that
up...

duke wrote:
That's because you don't understand how the OT prefaces the NT.
But I don't
consider you the brightest light on the block, so I'm not
surprised.

• the hair pull continues.

digitwit is the new ray fischer of the EOC ng. Zero knowledge, zero
words of
value, all smoke and no meat.

• so you enjoy wasting time?

Who says I'm wasting time?

• A barbeque with all smoke and no meat is worthwhile?

Oh, digitwit is cooked, carved, and consumed. He deliberately avoids
discussion, then plays dumb. It's best that he goes away.

• attention could be the attraction.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 6:47 am    Post subject: Re: Duckbrain Reply with quote

"•R. L. Measures" <r@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r-1608081726140001@192.168.1.46...
Quote:
In article <n8bea4h161gjgvn86ve7hjfchd6gkprcn5@4ax.com>, duke
duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 07:08:30 -0700, r@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:

In article <5mhda4dqmsh047reso7mchgurjeeoamvi1@4ax.com>, duke
duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:17:55 -0700, r@somis.org (•R. L. Measures)
wrote:

In article <srnaa4lfi4sgpc0qamlq762jvmm226joor@4ax.com>, duke
duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 02:54:35 -0700, r@somis.org (•R. L. Measures)
wrote:

In article
8b6f6024-4a82-4c70-8b30-b41ffed6714e@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
"Digimortal@starpower.net" <Digimortal@starpower.net> wrote:

Of course I understand it and it has NOTHING to do with the RCC
or any
"papacy". Of course I understand why your church had to make all
that
up...

duke wrote:
That's because you don't understand how the OT prefaces the
NT.
But I don't
consider you the brightest light on the block, so I'm not
surprised.

• the hair pull continues.

digitwit is the new ray fischer of the EOC ng. Zero knowledge,
zero
words of
value, all smoke and no meat.

• so you enjoy wasting time?

Who says I'm wasting time?

• A barbeque with all smoke and no meat is worthwhile?

Oh, digitwit is cooked, carved, and consumed. He deliberately avoids
discussion, then plays dumb. It's best that he goes away.

• attention could be the attraction.


***Then Duke is sure attracting attention to himself with the absolutely
ridiculous and erroneous statements he has made about his pope and church.
Even his fellow RC, a chap name Liam, has admonished him...
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Duckbrain Reply with quote

In article <g8804q72sbi@enews2.newsguy.com>, "AGGreen" <AGG@not the
imposter.edu> wrote:

Quote:
"•R. L. Measures" <r@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r-1608081726140001@192.168.1.46...
In article <n8bea4h161gjgvn86ve7hjfchd6gkprcn5@4ax.com>, duke
duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 07:08:30 -0700, r@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:

In article <5mhda4dqmsh047reso7mchgurjeeoamvi1@4ax.com>, duke
duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:17:55 -0700, r@somis.org (•R. L. Measures)
wrote:

In article <srnaa4lfi4sgpc0qamlq762jvmm226joor@4ax.com>, duke
duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 02:54:35 -0700, r@somis.org (•R. L. Measures)
wrote:

In article
8b6f6024-4a82-4c70-8b30-b41ffed6714e@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
"Digimortal@starpower.net" <Digimortal@starpower.net> wrote:

Of course I understand it and it has NOTHING to do with the RCC
or any
"papacy". Of course I understand why your church had to make all
that
up...

duke wrote:
That's because you don't understand how the OT prefaces the
NT.
But I don't
consider you the brightest light on the block, so I'm not
surprised.

• the hair pull continues.

digitwit is the new ray fischer of the EOC ng. Zero knowledge,
zero
words of
value, all smoke and no meat.

• so you enjoy wasting time?

Who says I'm wasting time?

• A barbeque with all smoke and no meat is worthwhile?

Oh, digitwit is cooked, carved, and consumed. He deliberately avoids
discussion, then plays dumb. It's best that he goes away.

• attention could be the attraction.


***Then Duke is sure attracting attention to himself with the absolutely
ridiculous and erroneous statements

• Certain tradeoffs are to be expected when one of the one true churches
takes over an individual's deciding function.

"In matters of faith never trust your own judgment, but always humbly
submit to the decisions of the Holy Church."
(page 77, *A Full Catechism of the Catholic Religion*, Fr. Joseph De
Harbe, S.J.)


he has made about his pope and church.
Quote:
Even his fellow RC, a chap name Liam, has admonished him...

• Liam is right up there, but in my view Duke is still the best example
of a TBRC.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 6:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Duckbrain Reply with quote

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:26:14 -0700, r@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:

Quote:
In article <n8bea4h161gjgvn86ve7hjfchd6gkprcn5@4ax.com>, duke
duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 07:08:30 -0700, r@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:

In article <5mhda4dqmsh047reso7mchgurjeeoamvi1@4ax.com>, duke
duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:17:55 -0700, r@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:

In article <srnaa4lfi4sgpc0qamlq762jvmm226joor@4ax.com>, duke
duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 02:54:35 -0700, r@somis.org (•R. L. Measures) wrote:

In article
8b6f6024-4a82-4c70-8b30-b41ffed6714e@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
"Digimortal@starpower.net" <Digimortal@starpower.net> wrote:

Of course I understand it and it has NOTHING to do with the RCC
or any
"papacy". Of course I understand why your church had to make all that
up...

duke wrote:
That's because you don't understand how the OT prefaces the NT.
But I don't
consider you the brightest light on the block, so I'm not
surprised.

• the hair pull continues.

digitwit is the new ray fischer of the EOC ng. Zero knowledge, zero
words of
value, all smoke and no meat.

• so you enjoy wasting time?

Who says I'm wasting time?

• A barbeque with all smoke and no meat is worthwhile?

Oh, digitwit is cooked, carved, and consumed. He deliberately avoids
discussion, then plays dumb. It's best that he goes away.

• attention could be the attraction.

Digitwit is embarrassing to the EOC with his Jewish beliefs.

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