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In article <mikeburt-2404061646080001Š.168.1.105> mikeburt@ix.netcom.com (Michael) writes:
| Quote: | In article <e2iufp$s53$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu>,
cary@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <mikeburt-2204061445130001Š.168.1.105> mikeburt@ix.netcom.com
(Michael) writes:
In article <e28ebm$nja$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu>,
cary@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <mikeburt-2004061027140001@10.83.123.6
mikeburt@ix.netcom.com (Michael) writes:
In article <0001HW.C06CADA1009DFC2AF0284530@news.giganews.com>,
grayshockley@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 01:44:04 -0500, Michael wrote
(in article <mikeburt-2004060244040001@10.83.123.6>):
In article <0001HW.C06C1A2A007B6BD6F0284530@news.giganews.com>,
grayshockley@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 22:15:21 -0500, Azure wrote
(in article <4445AB49.8EFF0890@pharae.org>):
Michael wrote:
In article <44407165.A385A5AD@pharae.org>, Azure
tain@pharae.org> wrote:
Michael wrote:
In article <443613E3.5718382D@pharae.org>, Azure
tain@pharae.org
wrote:
Gray Shockley wrote:
On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 15:21:05 -0500, Michael wrote
(in article <mikeburt-0604061621080001Š.168.1.101>):
In article
0001HW.C05A1E4B00039364F0284530@news.giganews.com>,
grayshockley@gmail.com wrote:
Still worshipping Astarte, the mother earth goddess, eh? Why
worship
the
creation when you can worship the Creator.
She, is as miss interpreted as He.
She is by definition:
And that religious defination appears ....where?
That which is Not the Masculine.
True, He is inclusive, she is exclusive, what is your point?
Many "Males" fall into that category.
She does not actually mean female, but "All Things",
Checked the dictionary, she is exclusive, not inclusive. What
disctionary
are you using?
I believe that came from Websters Collegiate
like Sativa,
it can be what it what's.
Keyboard Glitch should read "Wants"
IOW, words have no meaning according to your defination.
No you have no concept of computers or english.
Things happen, letters get stuck.
Does not mean a thing about the person.
Michael
Gray
TY, never heard about the Book by Robert Shea, but did find
out about
the Shay's Rebellion and it's relation.
Gi Ra and Y-O-Gah/Jehovah 2 names for 2 caves.
Adam and Eve lived in one then the Family Moved from the
Flood,
the Arc
set down in a new area, and Abraham bought the second
cave to bury
Sarah.
The 2 Paths, Halo and Horns, the Cave of the River Styx
Gi Ra, and
Y-O-Gah, the Cave of the North Wind, the Hyper Borealis, ANWR.
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May God Bless You
Michael
Ty.
Blessing or not, God chose me, I have little choice
Puriel
But are you doing what God chose you to do?
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May God Bless You
Michael
The BODY informs me I am, so yes.
If God is perfect, and Satan, Evil, why did God,
knowing what would happen create him.
And why was he Gods Favorite until 750 AD, when he fell from
grace.
It was probably as a result of that stupid bar-bet about Job.
Job is an incredible look into the spiritual battle we are called to
participate in. May God give us the strength to be all that we were
created to be, and to the adversary, just say no.
Ever read Karl Jung's "Answer to Job"?
Yes as to skimming, but would have to agree with:
http://psychematters.com/papers/hiles.htm
"Jung's Answer to Job is a very angry book, and as such it probably
suffers from the projections and distortions that inevitably accompany
human anger."
I found 'The Bible that Jesus Read' by Yancey far more
insightful. Anger
and hatred against God are neither positive nor healthy for until one
'forgieves' God for what he sees as injustice and understand that there
was no injustice, it is difficult, as affirmed by Christ, to strive to
follow the statutes of the 1st 5 Commandments and without that,
not likely
that striving to follow the statutes of the 2nd set will be as
successful
as possible.
For as man is created in the Image of God, both sets are highly
integrated. As an example, adultery against man in the Image of God is
equally idolotry against God Himself or transgressions of the 7th
Commandment will transgress the statutes of the 2nd Commandment at the
same time. To covent another man's posessions (10th) gives not
honour to
the one who Created all things being coveted (5th). To commit cold
blooded pre meditated murder of the very Image of God in man (6th) is to
create an god to replace God Himself (st).
In Genesis, God separated light and dark, rough and smooth, life and
death, male and female, high and low, and 'good' and 'evil' but in the
Revelation, these are put back together, all under the feet of Christ so
that God can be all in all. We live in this experience to experience
duality for a purpose, and from that, should use the time to equip us to
enjoy eternity where such duality probably does not exist.
Yes, I know of no one who fully understands Job. But If you view
Job with
the flesh of man at the center for understanding, one will never come
close to understanding it.
Well, perhaps that's my problem -- because I cannot get past
the fact that the "happy ending" of Job, the bit where all
that he had taken from him is restored, doesn't quite seem
to even things up as far as all those sons and daughters
and servants -- and animals -- who were callously killed in order
to advance the game are concerned.
The first problem with your analysis is the assumption that they are dead
and not restored as well.
These are still quite dead,
Actually, they are quite alive and well restored in addition.
Um, I don't see where you get that:
So the LORD blessed the latter end of Job more than his
beginning: for he had fourteen thousand sheep, and six
thousand camels, and a thousand yoke of oxen, and a
thousand she asses.
He had also seven sons and three daughters.
And he called the name of the first, Jemima; and the name
of the second, Kezia; and the name of the third,
Kerenhappuch.
And in all the land were no women found so fair as the
daughters of Job: and their father gave them inheritance
among their brethren.
Sounds like a fresh batch to me. I see nothing about bringing
back the dead here.
The set for this event after chapter 2 focuses on the earth, not the heavens.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:21 am Post subject: Re: Don't WASTE Your Time Praying! |
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In article <444AC845.4E0A8BED@pharae.org>, Azure <tain@pharae.org> wrote:
| Quote: | Michael wrote:
In article <44486491.FE2015F1@pharae.org>, Azure <tain@pharae.org> wrote:
Yes it does, why do you think you call a vehicle, appliance or other
thing a "SHE", because it does not meet your masculinity demands.
At least that is the rather sexist theory of radical feminism
Be that as it may, upsetting as it may be to you, it still is a "Proper
Definition".
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Be that as it may, upsetting as it may be to you, it still is a rather
sexist theory of radical feminism.
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who confuse
power with authority and servanthood with slavery and responsibility with
entitlement. The church is the Body and Bride of Christ.
No, the "Bride" was Brigis, the "Mother of God", but she could not be
the foster mother of Christ, because she was Lug's Mother, and Bel's
Wife, that was a few thousand years before Christ.
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Not likely, since Christ preceeded all of those mythologies.
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A nation and a
ship have always been referred to in the feminine, nothing dominating nor
physically exclusive to males about the use of the exclusive pronoun. He
and man has always been an inclusive pronoun and noun while it is she and
woman which is exclusive.
You Dominate.
It is subordinate to you.
At least in the rather confused world of the gender confused.
Not the usual definition, no, but it is in the book, so learn to read,
before you go around insulting yourself.
Persist, and I will cite Date Year Publication Number, ect and prove
just how illiterate "YOU" are on the subject.
Perhaps you should learn to understand what and whom you make judgements
about lacking facts in evidence.
Michael wrote:
In article <4445AB49.8EFF0890@pharae.org>, Azure <tain@pharae.org
wrote:
Michael wrote:
In article <44407165.A385A5AD@pharae.org>, Azure <tain@pharae.org
wrote:
Michael wrote:
In article <443613E3.5718382D@pharae.org>, Azure
tain@pharae.org
wrote:
Gray Shockley wrote:
On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 15:21:05 -0500, Michael wrote
(in article <mikeburt-0604061621080001@192.168.1.101>):
In article
0001HW.C05A1E4B00039364F0284530@news.giganews.com>,
grayshockley@gmail.com wrote:
Still worshipping Astarte, the mother earth goddess, eh? Why
worship the
creation when you can worship the Creator.
She, is as miss interpreted as He.
She is by definition:
And that religious defination appears ....where?
That which is Not the Masculine.
True, He is inclusive, she is exclusive, what is your point?
Many "Males" fall into that category.
She does not actually mean female, but "All Things",
Checked the dictionary, she is exclusive, not inclusive. What
disctionary
are you using?
I believe that came from Websters Collegiate
IOW, a gender neutered one. Merriman Webster's doesn't agree.
like Sativa,
it can be what it what's.
Keyboard Glitch should read "Wants"
IOW, words have no meaning according to your defination.
No you have no concept of computers or english.
At least that is your judgement.
Things happen, letters get stuck.
Does not mean a thing about the person.
Who said that it did?
Michael
Gray
TY, never heard about the Book by Robert Shea, but did find
out about
the Shay's Rebellion and it's relation.
Gi Ra and Y-O-Gah/Jehovah 2 names for 2 caves.
Adam and Eve lived in one then the Family Moved from the
Flood,
the Arc
set down in a new area, and Abraham bought the second
cave to bury
Sarah.
The 2 Paths, Halo and Horns, the Cave of the River Styx
Gi Ra, and
Y-O-Gah, the Cave of the North Wind, the Hyper Borealis, ANWR.
--
"-----------------"
May God Bless You
Michael
Ty.
Blessing or not, God chose me, I have little choice
Puriel
But are you doing what God chose you to do?
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May God Bless You
Michael
The BODY informs me I am, so yes.
And what is your defination of the BODY and how specifically and
particularly did it 'inform' you?
If God is perfect, and Satan, Evil, why did God,
knowing what would happen create him.
You would have to ask God for the answer, but it is apparent that if the
satanic did not do what it was supposed to do, God would have
taken it out
long ago. You might start by reading Chapter 3 of Genesis with
understanding. There is a lot there beyond the common kindergarten
understanding.
And why was he Gods Favorite until 750 AD, when he fell from grace.
He fell from grace in Revelation 12 long before 750 AD else he wouldn't
have been in the garden which Adam was supposed to be tending.
The satanic is not all that hard to resist, just say no.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:34 am Post subject: Re: Don't WASTE Your Time Praying! |
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In article <444ACBFE.AD7C745E@pharae.org>, Azure <tain@pharae.org> wrote:
| Quote: | Michael wrote:
In article <44486999.C295155D@pharae.org>, Azure <tain@pharae.org> wrote:
Michael wrote:
In article <4445AC24.C3BDA5FA@pharae.org>, Azure <tain@pharae.org
wrote:
And, assuming that this undefined 'church' has attacked you
Sorry is in the Introduction to the Bible, my mother gave me which was
written about circa 1850!!
for which
there are no facts in evidence to support,
None which you will ever acknowledge.
You would first have to provide one from which to be acknowledged.
Was a "Conclave of Churches, Circa 1870's.
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is this the same one that you previously referred to as the eeeevil
conclave that de-canonized the book of Nature which you gave a date of
circa 1850's?
| Quote: | The "Protestant Church".
Was the Protestant Church which my family warred against, Cornwallis was
Defender of the Faith.
So was Piere Gautrot, Deputy of Ingonish.
Arcadian's, followers of the Ancient Greeks, the Anti Church.
What Church, never happened, was not Butterfly Trail, and no Cajun
Flight.
They never did anything.
1812 was the Protestant Colonialists only.
Sure Napoleon Helped, but only because we asked.
After removing the King from the Throne, few wanted further proof,
atleast in France.
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Nothing here about de-canonization of any book of the Bible.
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how would you accomplish that
with specificity and particularity with the 'book of nature'?
It was a Canonized Book!!
Why is it now missing?
When was it canonized?
With the Original Books, way back when!
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Way back when specifically and particularly?
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At least we have now agreed that it was not
'decanonized' in 1850.
No, it was during the 1870's.
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Which Bible published before 1870 can this 'missing' book be found? Where
do Christ or the apostles reference this book as they do most all books of
the Old Testament?
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Besides the "Gi Toro", is the Codex of the Book of Nature.
I found a tale rich in history you were denied.
And the 'tale rich in history' you made the judgement that I was denied is?
The Gi Toro, the tale of the "Children of Nature", those who told their
tale, by naming the mountains, rivers, lands, trees, ect.....
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Since this was de-canonized in the 1870's according to your theory, which
Bible before 1870 clearly includes this book?
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Acknotin and Neffertti's people.
Their Exodus from Egypt, Greece, Babylon.
The Lebor Gaebala, was given circa 1135 AD.
They did not discover Acknotin and Neffertti until the 1900's.
It was a joke, a great myth when it was first told to the church.
But it was "PROVEN FACT".
What is the fact?
Acknotin started the beliefs and Tribes of "The One God".
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Perhaps, but it was more likely Joseph which was the source for Akhenaten.
| Quote: | That was the Exodus from Egypt, not as slaves, but Driven Out.
How dare those nasty people spread the teachings of ELPH/ALPH.
There are Gods for everything, and we make money selling secrets for
such.
He has bankrupted us and destroyed the churches.
Murder them, drive them out.
We don't want there kind around here.
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Perhaps Akenhaten is relevant to the time of Moses, (some say Akhenaten
was Moses) but the Exodus was 40 years later after the restoration of the
traditional temples, more likely during the reign of Rameses.
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We all know Aknaten and Neffertti, even Tut, what is
the 'rich tale'?
Do you?
What do you know about Neffertti?
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Nefertiti was the wife of the Amenhotep IV, some say either the mother or
perhaps the mother-in-law of Tutankhamun.
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Kind of like the Gaelic teachings of the 6th Age, the Age of Man.
There actually have been 5 extinction's, this is the 6th age.
I would agree that this is the 6th, with the 7th close to come.
How did ancient caveman know such?
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| Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:35 am Post subject: Re: Don't WASTE Your Time Praying! |
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In article <444ACD15.740054E4@pharae.org>, Azure <tain@pharae.org> wrote:
| Quote: | Michael wrote:
In article <44486C2D.8D8E36EC@pharae.org>, Azure <tain@pharae.org> wrote:
Some find 'white' a racist term.
It is,
So why do you use racist terms?
I am a Red, Magho Radji, Red Brow or Red Hat, a Term the Arian's
used for "Hair Color".
White, is Blonde, like Hitler and Friends.
Red is Red, like the Irish
Blue is Blue/Black, 2 Tribes there, Aryan and Naturals.
Red, White, and Blue.
The Pentagon or Pen Dragons 5 Points of Man are the Red, White, Blue,
the Brownies (Half Breeds), and Naturals.
We are all one with the Father, what is your point?
Red White and Blue, are Alien Races, walking among us.
The Fallen Angels.
The Children of the Arianhod, the Silverwheel, which fell from the
heavens and bored the bottomless Pit, the one which gave the Mountain a
Voice Activated Doorway.
Satan is the Descendant of Knowledge, because he has a "Genetic Link" to
that Door.
He is the Word which Opens the Doors to the Bottomless Pit.
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We leave you to your proofs.
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Do you think that the Aztec should have
been allowed their 'sacramental stuff' so that they could continue
to rip
out living human hearts whicle the Caucausians celebrated their unique
cultural diversity?
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!
IOW, you believe in human sacrifice? Ripping out living human hearts and
celebrating the diversity?
The Bible tells of Sacrificing Humans by the Tribes, it talks of Abraham
sacrificing his Son.
Actually, it doesn't. It tells of Abraham's obedience, but it was God
that provided the Lamb.
The Aztec's either took willing sacrifice or slaughtered their captors.
A rather interesting spin. the first is unlikely, the second an
impossibility. And who were these 'captors' of the Aztec that the Aztec
were in a position to rip out their living human hearts?
In slaughtering their captives, they are no different than any one else.
There have been many who did not 'slaughter their captives'.
The Spanish were Prime Example.
Look at the Protestant Whites,
There is that touch of racist epitaths again.
they gave tainted blankets to the Natives
in America to spread Small Pox.
Christian thing to do. Their Celebration of Cultural Diversity!!
I have never found any Christian who would find that a 'Christian' thing
to do, but many racist and Christophobes who accuse such an act of being
Christian.
It was supposed to be used religiously and sparingly.
Besides we wiped them out.
Decimated their peoples ways beliefs, you name it.
So who owes who.
Hell Blacks helped grow the stuff so why do we owe them any apologies,
they helped poison us.
Sounds like something anti-Caucausian racists would say.
Yep, White Supremacists are the worst threat the world knows, they
should all be hung from the nearest White Oak.
Quite a tribute to anti-Caucausian racism from one who celebrates the
Aztec ripping out the living human hearts of their captors from a war of
aggresion and wants to hang those Caucausians from the nearest White Oak
who ended the 'sacred' practice.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:39 am Post subject: Re: Don't WASTE Your Time Praying! |
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In article <444ACF54.2D2BDB@pharae.org>, Azure <tain@pharae.org> wrote:
| Quote: | Michael wrote:
In article <44486C2D.8D8E36EC@pharae.org>, Azure <tain@pharae.org> wrote:
Hey, the Whites wanted to take their Sacramental Stuff, they got
tobacco.
Some find 'white' a racist term.
It is, I am a Red, Magho Radji, Red Brow or Red Hat, a Term the Arian's
used for "Hair Color".
And who are these 'Arians' and why do you allow them to coin terms?
They did it long ago, think Krishna started it.
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We leave you to your proofs.
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White, is Blonde, like Hitler and Friends.
So when you use the offensive racist term 'white' you are referring to
Hiter and friends? Isn't that racist in and of itself? Do you make the
condemnation and racist judgement connecting imaginary dots that all
blondes are like Hitler and friends?
No, but their teachings are.
Tribes of the Moon.
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IOW, you changed the story.
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So if Red stands for Red Brown or Red Hat why does 'white' stand for
blonde and Hitler?
Ask the Aryans?
Better Yet ask an Episcopal, the Burglar's.
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And what do you anticipate that they would say?
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Racists come in many colours, there are Caucausian racists, but
anti-Caucausian racists are flourishing as well, some say in far greater
numbers.
Mine is the White Race which is hunted and subjected to genocide, and
had their religion hijacked.
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So you say, we will leave you to your proofs, absent here.
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snip
Do you think that the Aztec should have
been allowed their 'sacramental stuff' so that they could continue to rip
out living human hearts whicle the Caucausians celebrated their unique
cultural diversity?
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!
We will keep you in our prayers.
And I will put you and your idea that "YOU are the ONLY WAY" and will
prove it at the Point of a Sword, in mine.
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We will keep you in our prayers.
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snip
Yep, White Supremacists are the worst threat the world knows, they
should all be hung from the nearest White Oak.
One of the worst threats the world knows is racism, but bigoted
anti-Caucausian Supremacists are just as dangerous as any other.
Yep, faggots need to learn their place, God Chose them to rule the
world.
They are the image twice made by the hand of God.
Any who deny us, deny the will of God, and spread hatred and bigotry.
Such negative thoughts need to be stopped.
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Sounds a wee bit like bigotry, hate speech and heterophobia with a touch
of religious bigotry thrown in for good measure.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:44 am Post subject: Re: Don't WASTE Your Time Praying! |
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In article <444AD054.2487EAEF@pharae.org>, Azure <tain@pharae.org> wrote:
| Quote: | Michael wrote:
In article <e28ebm$nja$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu>,
cary@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
God's apparent indifference to that fact tends to underscore
the entire theme of the story, at least to me.
Then put away the assumptions and metaphysical restrictions you place on
God in the event and realize that God restored everyone,
Therefore the Legends about Satan having no chance, being pure evil,
which God hates, is a LIE fabricated through Dantae.
Satan is one of Gods Angels, and as such has no "Personal Choice", he is
part of the unity.
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In a way, but not quite the paraphrase as you present it. Isaiah 45:7* I
form light and create darkness, I make weal and create woe, I am the LORD,
who do all these things.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:46 am Post subject: Re: Don't WASTE Your Time Praying! |
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In article <e2iufp$s53$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu>,
cary@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
| Quote: | In article <mikeburt-2204061445130001Š.168.1.105> mikeburt@ix.netcom.com
(Michael) writes:
In article <e28ebm$nja$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu>,
cary@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <mikeburt-2004061027140001@10.83.123.6
mikeburt@ix.netcom.com (Michael) writes:
In article <0001HW.C06CADA1009DFC2AF0284530@news.giganews.com>,
grayshockley@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 01:44:04 -0500, Michael wrote
(in article <mikeburt-2004060244040001@10.83.123.6>):
In article <0001HW.C06C1A2A007B6BD6F0284530@news.giganews.com>,
grayshockley@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 22:15:21 -0500, Azure wrote
(in article <4445AB49.8EFF0890@pharae.org>):
Michael wrote:
In article <44407165.A385A5AD@pharae.org>, Azure
tain@pharae.org> wrote:
Michael wrote:
In article <443613E3.5718382D@pharae.org>, Azure
tain@pharae.org
wrote:
Gray Shockley wrote:
On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 15:21:05 -0500, Michael wrote
(in article <mikeburt-0604061621080001Š.168.1.101>):
In article
0001HW.C05A1E4B00039364F0284530@news.giganews.com>,
grayshockley@gmail.com wrote:
Still worshipping Astarte, the mother earth goddess, eh? Why
worship
the
creation when you can worship the Creator.
She, is as miss interpreted as He.
She is by definition:
And that religious defination appears ....where?
That which is Not the Masculine.
True, He is inclusive, she is exclusive, what is your point?
Many "Males" fall into that category.
She does not actually mean female, but "All Things",
Checked the dictionary, she is exclusive, not inclusive. What
disctionary
are you using?
I believe that came from Websters Collegiate
like Sativa,
it can be what it what's.
Keyboard Glitch should read "Wants"
IOW, words have no meaning according to your defination.
No you have no concept of computers or english.
Things happen, letters get stuck.
Does not mean a thing about the person.
Michael
Gray
TY, never heard about the Book by Robert Shea, but did find
out about
the Shay's Rebellion and it's relation.
Gi Ra and Y-O-Gah/Jehovah 2 names for 2 caves.
Adam and Eve lived in one then the Family Moved from the
Flood,
the Arc
set down in a new area, and Abraham bought the second
cave to bury
Sarah.
The 2 Paths, Halo and Horns, the Cave of the River Styx
Gi Ra, and
Y-O-Gah, the Cave of the North Wind, the Hyper Borealis, ANWR.
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May God Bless You
Michael
Ty.
Blessing or not, God chose me, I have little choice
Puriel
But are you doing what God chose you to do?
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May God Bless You
Michael
The BODY informs me I am, so yes.
If God is perfect, and Satan, Evil, why did God,
knowing what would happen create him.
And why was he Gods Favorite until 750 AD, when he fell from
grace.
It was probably as a result of that stupid bar-bet about Job.
Job is an incredible look into the spiritual battle we are called to
participate in. May God give us the strength to be all that we were
created to be, and to the adversary, just say no.
Ever read Karl Jung's "Answer to Job"?
Yes as to skimming, but would have to agree with:
http://psychematters.com/papers/hiles.htm
"Jung's Answer to Job is a very angry book, and as such it probably
suffers from the projections and distortions that inevitably accompany
human anger."
I found 'The Bible that Jesus Read' by Yancey far more
insightful. Anger
and hatred against God are neither positive nor healthy for until one
'forgieves' God for what he sees as injustice and understand that there
was no injustice, it is difficult, as affirmed by Christ, to strive to
follow the statutes of the 1st 5 Commandments and without that,
not likely
that striving to follow the statutes of the 2nd set will be as
successful
as possible.
For as man is created in the Image of God, both sets are highly
integrated. As an example, adultery against man in the Image of God is
equally idolotry against God Himself or transgressions of the 7th
Commandment will transgress the statutes of the 2nd Commandment at the
same time. To covent another man's posessions (10th) gives not
honour to
the one who Created all things being coveted (5th). To commit cold
blooded pre meditated murder of the very Image of God in man (6th) is to
create an god to replace God Himself (st).
In Genesis, God separated light and dark, rough and smooth, life and
death, male and female, high and low, and 'good' and 'evil' but in the
Revelation, these are put back together, all under the feet of Christ so
that God can be all in all. We live in this experience to experience
duality for a purpose, and from that, should use the time to equip us to
enjoy eternity where such duality probably does not exist.
Yes, I know of no one who fully understands Job. But If you view
Job with
the flesh of man at the center for understanding, one will never come
close to understanding it.
Well, perhaps that's my problem -- because I cannot get past
the fact that the "happy ending" of Job, the bit where all
that he had taken from him is restored, doesn't quite seem
to even things up as far as all those sons and daughters
and servants -- and animals -- who were callously killed in order
to advance the game are concerned.
The first problem with your analysis is the assumption that they are dead
and not restored as well.
These are still quite dead,
Actually, they are quite alive and well restored in addition.
Um, I don't see where you get that:
So the LORD blessed the latter end of Job more than his
beginning: for he had fourteen thousand sheep, and six
thousand camels, and a thousand yoke of oxen, and a
thousand she asses.
He had also seven sons and three daughters.
And he called the name of the first, Jemima; and the name
of the second, Kezia; and the name of the third,
Kerenhappuch.
And in all the land were no women found so fair as the
daughters of Job: and their father gave them inheritance
among their brethren.
Sounds like a fresh batch to me. I see nothing about bringing
back the dead here.
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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:44:17 -0500, Michael wrote
(in article <mikeburt-2404061644170001@192.168.1.105>):
| Quote: | In article <444AD054.2487EAEF@pharae.org>, Azure <tain@pharae.org> wrote:
Michael wrote:
In article <e28ebm$nja$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu>,
cary@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
God's apparent indifference to that fact tends to underscore
the entire theme of the story, at least to me.
Then put away the assumptions and metaphysical restrictions you place on
God in the event and realize that God restored everyone,
Therefore the Legends about Satan having no chance, being pure evil,
which God hates, is a LIE fabricated through Dantae.
Satan is one of Gods Angels, and as such has no "Personal Choice", he is
part of the unity.
In a way, but not quite the paraphrase as you present it. Isaiah 45:7* I
form light and create darkness, I make weal and create woe, I am the LORD,
who do all these things.
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This is the "god guy", right?
"I make weal and create woe."
What sort of perv could worship something that slimy and disgusting?
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| Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 7:37 am Post subject: Re: Don't WASTE Your Time Praying! |
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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:46:08 -0500, Michael wrote
(in article <mikeburt-2404061646080001@192.168.1.105>):
| Quote: | In article <e2iufp$s53$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu>,
cary@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <mikeburt-2204061445130001Š.168.1.105> mikeburt@ix.netcom.com
(Michael) writes:
In article <e28ebm$nja$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu>,
cary@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote:
In article <mikeburt-2004061027140001@10.83.123.6
mikeburt@ix.netcom.com (Michael) writes:
In article <0001HW.C06CADA1009DFC2AF0284530@news.giganews.com>,
grayshockley@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 01:44:04 -0500, Michael wrote
(in article <mikeburt-2004060244040001@10.83.123.6>):
In article <0001HW.C06C1A2A007B6BD6F0284530@news.giganews.com>,
grayshockley@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 22:15:21 -0500, Azure wrote
(in article <4445AB49.8EFF0890@pharae.org>):
Michael wrote:
In article <44407165.A385A5AD@pharae.org>, Azure
tain@pharae.org> wrote:
Michael wrote:
In article <443613E3.5718382D@pharae.org>, Azure
tain@pharae.org
wrote:
Gray Shockley wrote:
On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 15:21:05 -0500, Michael wrote
(in article <mikeburt-0604061621080001Š.168.1.101>):
In article
0001HW.C05A1E4B00039364F0284530@news.giganews.com>,
grayshockley@gmail.com wrote:
Still worshipping Astarte, the mother earth goddess, eh? Why
worship
the
creation when you can worship the Creator.
She, is as miss interpreted as He.
She is by definition:
And that religious defination appears ....where?
That which is Not the Masculine.
True, He is inclusive, she is exclusive, what is your point?
Many "Males" fall into that category.
She does not actually mean female, but "All Things",
Checked the dictionary, she is exclusive, not inclusive. What
disctionary
are you using?
I believe that came from Websters Collegiate
like Sativa,
it can be what it what's.
Keyboard Glitch should read "Wants"
IOW, words have no meaning according to your defination.
No you have no concept of computers or english.
Things happen, letters get stuck.
Does not mean a thing about the person.
Michael
Gray
TY, never heard about the Book by Robert Shea, but did find
out about
the Shay's Rebellion and it's relation.
Gi Ra and Y-O-Gah/Jehovah 2 names for 2 caves.
Adam and Eve lived in one then the Family Moved from the
Flood,
the Arc
set down in a new area, and Abraham bought the second
cave to bury
Sarah.
The 2 Paths, Halo and Horns, the Cave of the River Styx
Gi Ra, and
Y-O-Gah, the Cave of the North Wind, the Hyper Borealis, ANWR.
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May God Bless You
Michael
Ty.
Blessing or not, God chose me, I have little choice
Puriel
But are you doing what God chose you to do?
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May God Bless You
Michael
The BODY informs me I am, so yes.
If God is perfect, and Satan, Evil, why did God,
knowing what would happen create him.
And why was he Gods Favorite until 750 AD, when he fell from
grace.
It was probably as a result of that stupid bar-bet about Job.
Job is an incredible look into the spiritual battle we are called to
participate in. May God give us the strength to be all that we were
created to be, and to the adversary, just say no.
Ever read Karl Jung's "Answer to Job"?
Yes as to skimming, but would have to agree with:
http://psychematters.com/papers/hiles.htm
"Jung's Answer to Job is a very angry book, and as such it probably
suffers from the projections and distortions that inevitably accompany
human anger."
I found 'The Bible that Jesus Read' by Yancey far more
insightful. Anger
and hatred against God are neither positive nor healthy for until one
'forgieves' God for what he sees as injustice and understand that there
was no injustice, it is difficult, as affirmed by Christ, to strive to
follow the statutes of the 1st 5 Commandments and without that,
not likely
that striving to follow the statutes of the 2nd set will be as
successful
as possible.
For as man is created in the Image of God, both sets are highly
integrated. As an example, adultery against man in the Image of God is
equally idolotry against God Himself or transgressions of the 7th
Commandment will transgress the statutes of the 2nd Commandment at the
same time. To covent another man's posessions (10th) gives not
honour to
the one who Created all things being coveted (5th). To commit cold
blooded pre meditated murder of the very Image of God in man (6th) is to
create an god to replace God Himself (st).
In Genesis, God separated light and dark, rough and smooth, life and
death, male and female, high and low, and 'good' and 'evil' but in the
Revelation, these are put back together, all under the feet of Christ so
that God can be all in all. We live in this experience to experience
duality for a purpose, and from that, should use the time to equip us to
enjoy eternity where such duality probably does not exist.
Yes, I know of no one who fully understands Job. But If you view
Job with
the flesh of man at the center for understanding, one will never come
close to understanding it.
Well, perhaps that's my problem -- because I cannot get past
the fact that the "happy ending" of Job, the bit where all
that he had taken from him is restored, doesn't quite seem
to even things up as far as all those sons and daughters
and servants -- and animals -- who were callously killed in order
to advance the game are concerned.
The first problem with your analysis is the assumption that they are dead
and not restored as well.
These are still quite dead,
Actually, they are quite alive and well restored in addition.
Um, I don't see where you get that:
So the LORD blessed the latter end of Job more than his
beginning: for he had fourteen thousand sheep, and six
thousand camels, and a thousand yoke of oxen, and a
thousand she asses.
He had also seven sons and three daughters.
And he called the name of the first, Jemima; and the name
of the second, Kezia; and the name of the third,
Kerenhappuch.
And in all the land were no women found so fair as the
daughters of Job: and their father gave them inheritance
among their brethren.
Sounds like a fresh batch to me. I see nothing about bringing
back the dead here.
The set for this event after chapter 2 focuses on the earth, not the heavens.
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And Earth is that with which we have to deal.
You may be privy to the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy and
Heaven but those of us that do not do hallucinogens do not and this life is
all we can be sure of and it is in this world we dwell.
If there is an afterlife, there are only two things of which we can be
certain: we'll have to change planes at Atlanta and the Hare Krishnas will be
there at Hartsfield-Jackson to annoy us.
And there we would part company. You'll attempting to board the Harp Special
Red-eye and I'll be handed a gin-and-tonic (double squeeze lime) and a Martin
DB-21 will be waiting for me on my seat.
And I'll embrace it all with combat support arms and open arms. It'll have to
be Hell because Heaven seems to attract such a wimpy clientele.
A guy tried to buy me a drink one time and, when I refused it, he asked me
why. And I simply responded with the old pride, "I never drink with anyone
with whom I would be ashamed to die."
Say, are you named after Michael the Arc-Anal?
Gray Shockley
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