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Campaign idea: try out separation of church and state
http://www.theolympian.com/118/story/476541.html
• Published June 12, 2008
Northwest son Tim Egan has invited presidential candidates to take a path
less traveled this election season.
Click here to find out more!
As Egan bluntly puts it today in his Outposts blog in the New York Times:
“Let’s go Godless for the rest of the campaign.’’
No, this isn’t some call to iniquity. It’s all about the separation of
church and state, which we’ve seen religious activists try to blur at all
levels of government in recent decades. In other words, go ahead and hit
the campaign trail full bore but try leaving the religious stuff at home,
treating it as a private matter the way Thomas Jefferson did.
Egan’s advice is sure to be ignored, despite his evoking the words of
Jefferson, Teddy Roosevelt and John F. Kennedy, whose three different views
of history seem quite remote today.
“I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is
absolute,” Egan quotes JFK as saying. “I believe in a president whose views
on religion are his own private affair.”
Kennedy is the man whose hope-stirring memory is often mentioned by
supporters of Barack Obama, but even Obama wears his religious faith on his
sleeve.
And now John McCain, a man who has spurned the endorsement of an extremist
pastor just as Obama spurned his one-time minister, is trying to unify a
Republican Party that has so much to gain, and lose, from its ties to the
religious right.
McCain hasn’t yet gone courting the Southern Baptists meeting today in
Indianapolis, and this has some of the Baptists wondering, according to
this Associated Press story in today’s Olympian.
I’m wondering, too: Will either candidate be frank about the separation of
church and state? And what, in each candidate’s view, does that separation
look like?
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You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Historical Reality SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
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.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
.. . .
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USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote
"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
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THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
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