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 Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 1:20 am Post subject: 18 Facts that Mormons do NOT want YOU to know!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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I am a former Mormon missionary and apologist (defender of the faith).
I resigned from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in
1996.
Here are a list of facts that Mormons do NOT want you to know.
If you know these facts, and still join the Mormon Church, that's up
to you.
But I think it is only fair that you should know the following facts:
1. Joseph Smith denied all his life that he was a polygamist. Yet, he
had 33 wives, including his own foster daughters, the Lawrence
sisters, aged 14 and 16.
2. The Book of Mormon claims that the American Indians are the
descendants of Lehi, a Jew. Yet, DNA studies of American Indian tribes
reveal they had not one Semitic "gene" in their DNA, no Semitic
ancestry whatsoever. The American Indians are Asians, like the
Chinese. They are closely related to the Tuvan people of Siberia.
3. There is no archaeological evidence for The Book of Mormon. The
book says that the Nephites had horses, sheep, goats, oxen, asses, but
there is no evidence that oxen, sheep or asses (donkies) existed in
the New World before Columbus. Horses in America were too small to
ride, and went extinct about 10,000 years ago, long before Book of
Mormon times. Not one pot-sherd of "Nephite" civilization has ever
been unearthed.
4. From 1848 until 1978, "Negroes" were banned from all Mormon Temples
and the Mormon priesthood (which every Mormon male must hold to get to
the Celestial Kingdom). Mormon prophets during this time taught that
"Negroes" were the inferior and "cursed" children of Cain, and the
"mark of Cain" was a black skin, flat nose, and kinky hair. In 1978
Mormon Church president ended this BAN, but never repudiated the
"Curse of Cain Doctrine" that Negroes are the cursed children of Cain,
and that Cain was changed from a white man to a black man because he
killed his brother Abel.
5. Oliver Cowdery, the man who assisted Joseph Smith in translating
the Book of Mormon, was excommunicated from the Church later for
counterfeiting. He forged phoney money. Can his testimony regarding
Mormonism be believed?
6. Before 1990, in the Mormon Temple Endowment Ceremony (a secret
rite) Mormons had to make a movement brining their hand across their
neck to symbolize what would happen if they revealed the secrets of
the Mormon Temple (i.e. their throats being cut). While "symbolic",
this was dropped from all Mormon temple ceremonies in 1990.
7. Joseph Smith prophesied "in the name of the Lord and let it be
written" that Christ would return in 1891. He prophesied this on two
separate occassions. When confronted with this, Mormons reply, "Well,
its NOT a false prophecy. It would have happened then, but we weren't
ready for it!" The Bible says that the sign of a false prophet is ONE
prophecy that does not come to pass.
8. Brigham Young, the 2nd President of the Mormon Church, taught that
Adam was the Father of our spirits, and the Father of the spirit and
body of Jesus Christ. Today, if a Mormon teaches that, he is
excommunicated.
9. Brigham Young taught that interracial couples and their children
should be "killed on the spot" to atone for their abominations (i.e.
being interracial)
10. Mormons claim theirs is the fastest growing Church in the world
and that growth is a "sign" from God that the Church is true. Non-
sense. The Mormon Church is growing much slower than the SDA Church,
the Jehovah's Witnesses, or the Assemblies of God, among many more.
11. For many decades Mormon leaders taught that God the Father, an
exalted white man with a human body, came down and had sex with Mary,
one of his spirit-daughters, in order to produce the body of Jesus.
Mary was a "virgin" in the sense that she had sex with God and not
with man. Mormon leaders taught that sex with God was the same as a
man having sex with his own wife. They taught Mary is the daughter-
wife of God the Father. This "Heavenly Incest Doctrine" has never been
repudiated.
12. A group of men in Kinderhook, Illinois, decided in 1843 to deceive
Joseph Smith. They forged small bell-shaped plates of brass, covered
them with rust and symbols, then buried them, then dug them up again
and took them to Joseph Smith to translate. Joseph Smith claimed to
"translate a portion of them" and found them to contain a genealogy of
a Jaredite (a Book of Mormon people) back to Ham, son of Pharoah. This
is known as the "Kinderhook Plates Hoax". How can a true Prophet
translate forged brass plates?
13. Mormon prophets have taught, and Mormen men believe, that they
shall have many wives in Heaven, including some of their own spirit-
daughters. Obedient Mormon women must accept this, or never be
resurrected. Mormon males are told they will have the right to
resurrect their wives in the resurrection. If a Mormon women is
disobedient to her husband, the male will leave her in the grave.
14. According to Sarah Pratt, wife of Mormon apostle Orson Pratt,
Joseph Smith tried to seduce her while Orson Pratt was on a mission to
England. According to Nancy Rigdon, the 16 year old daughter of Sidney
Rigdon, a leading Mormon at the time, Joseph Smith tried to seduce her
too.
15. According to Oliver Cowdery, who was the co-founder of the Mormon
Church along with Joseph Smith, he caught Joseph Smith having sex with
Fanny Alger, a 16 year old nanny that took care of the Smith children,
in Kirkland, Ohio, in 1835.
16. In May 1844, Joseph Smith boasted he had "done more than any man"
in holding the Church together, more than Paul OR JESUS ever did.
17. According to numerous witnesses who lived at the time of Joseph
Smith, the Book of Mormon was based upon a novel by Solomon Spaulding
called "Manuscript Found in the Wilds of Mormon". They claimed that
Sidney Rigdon stole this manuscript from a printer's office in
Pittsburg in 1822, added a lot of additional materials, and with it
wrote The Book of Mormon, with Joseph Smith being the "front man" for
this venture.
18. Joseph Smith claimed that an Angel named Moroni appeared to him in
a vision in 1823 and showed him where there were gold plates deposited
which contained a history of the Nephites in America. The Gold Plates
were given back to the Angel Moroni, thereby denying the world
evidence of their existence in the first place.
All these are indisputable facts, which Mormon historians will
acknowledge and the Mormon Church will NOT deny.
If you wish to still join the Mormon Church after knowing all this,
then do so. It is a great place to raise a family. The Church has
outstanding social programs for families, singles, and youth. If you
are conservative, non-smoking/non-drinking middle-class white
American, you can find much happiness and fulfillment in the Mormon
Church.
Thank you.
Darrick Evenson |
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NickYoungh
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| Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 1:58 pm Post subject: Re: 18 Facts that Mormons do NOT want YOU to know!!!!!!!!!!! |
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On 25 dec, 02:20, Darrick <darrick_even...@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I am a former Mormon missionary and apologist (defender of the faith).
I resigned from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in
1996.
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I am baptised protestant, but found out, that I could not live up to
my principles and gave up religion, got drunk and foulmouthed with the
boys, screwed around and worked my way up in construction, where I
retired and stick to my own values, without any frustration.
| Quote: | 1. Joseph Smith denied all his life that he was a polygamist. Yet, he
had 33 wives, including his own foster daughters, the Lawrence
sisters, aged 14 and 16.
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Yes I did see the Woody Allen movie
| Quote: | 2. The Book of Mormon claims that the American Indians are the
descendants of Lehi, a Jew. Yet, DNA studies of American Indian tribes
reveal they had not one Semitic "gene" in their DNA, no Semitic
ancestry whatsoever. The American Indians are Asians, like the
Chinese. They are closely related to the Tuvan people of Siberia.
The Book of Mormon does not have any word America or indian, but |
speaks about "we arrived at the promissed land" and that you should
have learned as a missionary, was originally and historically around
600bC in Israël and Canaan.
The big ongoing dispute in DNA land is not about Jewish indians but
about the DNA of Jewish Sephardites, Askenazi, Karaites and Khazars.
| Quote: | 3. There is no archaeological evidence for The Book of Mormon. The
book says that the Nephites had horses, sheep, goats, oxen, asses, but
there is no evidence that oxen, sheep or asses (donkies) existed in
the New World before Columbus. Horses in America were too small to
ride, and went extinct about 10,000 years ago, long before Book of
Mormon times. Not one pot-sherd of "Nephite" civilization has ever
been unearthed.
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Why the Helaman you look for this kind of evidence in America if you
can find it all in "the promissed land"Israël or in Khazaria
(Tsarenheim) "Zarahemlah" of the Russian Jews ?, were the museums are
full of Jewish pot-sherds.
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4. From 1848 until 1978, "Negroes" were banned from all Mormon Temples
and the Mormon priesthood (which every Mormon male must hold to get to
the Celestial Kingdom). Mormon prophets during this time taught that
"Negroes" were the inferior and "cursed" children of Cain, and the
"mark of Cain" was a black skin, flat nose, and kinky hair. In 1978
Mormon Church president ended this BAN, but never repudiated the
"Curse of Cain Doctrine" that Negroes are the cursed children of Cain,
and that Cain was changed from a white man to a black man because he
killed his brother Abel.
What Mormon doctrine has to do with the BoM ? |
the verses there of the skin getting darker, are those of Lehi/
Jeremiah and the royal princes of the house of David wading !!!
through the fertile swamps of the Blue Nile, where the black Cushite
kingdom of Meroë was with halfcasts from Salomon and the queen of
Sheba.(Menelek)
| Quote: | 5. Oliver Cowdery, the man who assisted Joseph Smith in translating
the Book of Mormon, was excommunicated from the Church later for
counterfeiting. He forged phoney money. Can his testimony regarding
Mormonism be believed?
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No
| Quote: | 6. Before 1990, in the Mormon Temple Endowment Ceremony (a secret
rite) Mormons had to make a movement brining their hand across their
neck to symbolize what would happen if they revealed the secrets of
the Mormon Temple (i.e. their throats being cut). While "symbolic",
this was dropped from all Mormon temple ceremonies in 1990.
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So you agree that there is something hidden under that temple ?
and the white salamander Marc Hofman came too close ?
| Quote: | 7. Joseph Smith prophesied "in the name of the Lord and let it be
written" that Christ would return in 1891. He prophesied this on two
separate occassions. When confronted with this, Mormons reply, "Well,
its NOT a false prophecy. It would have happened then, but we weren't
ready for it!" The Bible says that the sign of a false prophet is ONE
prophecy that does not come to pass.
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Commonse sense says that all prophets are false
| Quote: | 8. Brigham Young, the 2nd President of the Mormon Church, taught that
Adam was the Father of our spirits, and the Father of the spirit and
body of Jesus Christ. Today, if a Mormon teaches that, he is
excommunicated.
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In Iraq there recently a sect was killed, who believed they descended
from Adam, but not from Eve.
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9. Brigham Young taught that interracial couples and their children
should be "killed on the spot" to atone for their abominations (i.e.
being interracial)
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I and my black girlfriend experienced these kind of things in the
70ties, as well in Africa as in Europe. Nowadays coloured girls are
the boys favorites.
| Quote: | 10. Mormons claim theirs is the fastest growing Church in the world
and that growth is a "sign" from God that the Church is true. Non-
sense. The Mormon Church is growing much slower than the SDA Church,
the Jehovah's Witnesses, or the Assemblies of God, among many more.
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very frightening, indeed
| Quote: | 11. For many decades Mormon leaders taught that God the Father, an
exalted white man with a human body, came down and had sex with Mary,
one of his spirit-daughters, in order to produce the body of Jesus.
Mary was a "virgin" in the sense that she had sex with God and not
with man. Mormon leaders taught that sex with God was the same as a
man having sex with his own wife. They taught Mary is the daughter-
wife of God the Father. This "Heavenly Incest Doctrine" has never been
repudiated.
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It smacks after Ichnaton, who made his own granschildren and invented
the monotheist religion and probably wrote Hieratic, the petroglyph
shorthand of the
Elephantine Jews in Egypt.
| Quote: | 12. A group of men in Kinderhook, Illinois, decided in 1843 to deceive
Joseph Smith. They forged small bell-shaped plates of brass, covered
them with rust and symbols, then buried them, then dug them up again
and took them to Joseph Smith to translate. Joseph Smith claimed to
"translate a portion of them" and found them to contain a genealogy of
a Jaredite (a Book of Mormon people) back to Ham, son of Pharoah. This
is known as the "Kinderhook Plates Hoax". How can a true Prophet
translate forged brass plates?
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he could not, the golden plates of the Khazar archives were translated
by Khazar Karaite rabbi Alexander Neibaur, a gifted linguist boy,
translator of Napoleon Bonaparte and language teacher of JS.
| Quote: | 13. Mormon prophets have taught, and Mormen men believe, that they
shall have many wives in Heaven, including some of their own spirit-
daughters. Obedient Mormon women must accept this, or never be
resurrected. Mormon males are told they will have the right to
resurrect their wives in the resurrection. If a Mormon women is
disobedient to her husband, the male will leave her in the grave.
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I will tell my wife, after christmas diner, after !
| Quote: | 14. According to Sarah Pratt, wife of Mormon apostle Orson Pratt,
Joseph Smith tried to seduce her while Orson Pratt was on a mission to
England. According to Nancy Rigdon, the 16 year old daughter of Sidney
Rigdon, a leading Mormon at the time, Joseph Smith tried to seduce her
too.
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What is wrong about that, I still try to seduce complete schoolcourts
every day.
| Quote: | 15. According to Oliver Cowdery, who was the co-founder of the Mormon
Church along with Joseph Smith, he caught Joseph Smith having sex with
Fanny Alger, a 16 year old nanny that took care of the Smith children,
in Kirkland, Ohio, in 1835.
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Thats what nannies want and what nannies do on my tv.
| Quote: | 16. In May 1844, Joseph Smith boasted he had "done more than any man"
in holding the Church together, more than Paul OR JESUS ever did.
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Paul did split up the church and Christ founded her.
| Quote: | 17. According to numerous witnesses who lived at the time of Joseph
Smith, the Book of Mormon was based upon a novel by Solomon Spaulding
called "Manuscript Found in the Wilds of Mormon". They claimed that
Sidney Rigdon stole this manuscript from a printer's office in
Pittsburg in 1822, added a lot of additional materials, and with it
wrote The Book of Mormon, with Joseph Smith being the "front man" for
this venture.
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I could not find any match in the Spaulding manuscript with the real
old world history but found thousand of matches in the BoM.
| Quote: | 18. Joseph Smith claimed that an Angel named Moroni appeared to him in
a vision in 1823 and showed him where there were gold plates deposited
which contained a history of the Nephites in America. The Gold Plates
were given back to the Angel Moroni, thereby denying the world
evidence of their existence in the first place.
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Yes, a bloody shame, you should help me in my fight to get the "Khazar
archives"
"taken out of the Temple foundations and exhibited or published.
| Quote: | All these are indisputable facts, which Mormon historians will
acknowledge and the Mormon Church will NOT deny.
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So what's your point ?
| Quote: | If you wish to still join the Mormon Church after knowing all this,
then do so. It is a great place to raise a family. The Church has
outstanding social programs for families, singles, and youth. If you
are conservative, non-smoking/non-drinking middle-class white
American, you can find much happiness and fulfillment in the Mormon
Church.
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I noticed, but thanks anyway.
| Quote: | Thank you.
No thank you. |
| Quote: | Darrick Evenson
Nick Youngh. |
Come over your frustration man, get drunk, get laid, screw a Jewish
nanny and do not look for any other relion or Messiah, but take the
BoM as a Jewish historical document from Israël or Russian Jew
Khazaria. |
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NickYoungh
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| Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 8:33 pm Post subject: Re: 18 Facts that Mormons do NOT want YOU to know!!!!!!!!!!! |
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On 25 dec, 18:03, 2...@vc.net (*R. L. Measures) wrote:
| Quote: | In article
3e940639-83de-4be6-9384-f577ad9e4...@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Darrick <darrick_even...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I am a former Mormon missionary and apologist (defender of the faith).
I resigned from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in
1996.
Here are a list of facts that Mormons do NOT want you to know.
If you know these facts, and still join the Mormon Church, that's up
to you.
But I think it is only fair that you should know the following facts:
1. Joseph Smith denied all his life that he was a polygamist. Yet, he
had 33 wives, including his own foster daughters, the Lawrence
sisters, aged 14 and 16.
2. The Book of Mormon claims that the American Indians are the
descendants of Lehi, a Jew. Yet, DNA studies of American Indian tribes
reveal they had not one Semitic "gene" in their DNA, no Semitic
ancestry whatsoever. The American Indians are Asians, like the
Chinese. They are closely related to the Tuvan people of Siberia.
3. There is no archaeological evidence for The Book of Mormon. The
book says that the Nephites had horses, sheep, goats, oxen, asses, but
there is no evidence that oxen, sheep or asses (donkies) existed in
the New World before Columbus. Horses in America were too small to
ride, and went extinct about 10,000 years ago, long before Book of
Mormon times. Not one pot-sherd of "Nephite" civilization has ever
been unearthed.
** thats because all them Nephite artyfacts was plumb washed out into the
Atlantic by the rain from the storm clouds s seen in the West on the day
Jesus was executed, and the wreck of the Titanic is holding 'em fast to
the ocean floor so they can not be recovered to prove stupid mo-fo
antiMormons like Darrick is plumb full of shit.
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On 28 nov, 03:44, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Could you scientifically prove that, please
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| Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 11:03 pm Post subject: Re: 18 Facts that Mormons do NOT want YOU to know!!!!!!!!!!! |
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In article
<3e940639-83de-4be6-9384-f577ad9e4b66@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Darrick <darrick_evenson@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I am a former Mormon missionary and apologist (defender of the faith).
I resigned from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in
1996.
Here are a list of facts that Mormons do NOT want you to know.
If you know these facts, and still join the Mormon Church, that's up
to you.
But I think it is only fair that you should know the following facts:
1. Joseph Smith denied all his life that he was a polygamist. Yet, he
had 33 wives, including his own foster daughters, the Lawrence
sisters, aged 14 and 16.
2. The Book of Mormon claims that the American Indians are the
descendants of Lehi, a Jew. Yet, DNA studies of American Indian tribes
reveal they had not one Semitic "gene" in their DNA, no Semitic
ancestry whatsoever. The American Indians are Asians, like the
Chinese. They are closely related to the Tuvan people of Siberia.
3. There is no archaeological evidence for The Book of Mormon. The
book says that the Nephites had horses, sheep, goats, oxen, asses, but
there is no evidence that oxen, sheep or asses (donkies) existed in
the New World before Columbus. Horses in America were too small to
ride, and went extinct about 10,000 years ago, long before Book of
Mormon times. Not one pot-sherd of "Nephite" civilization has ever
been unearthed.
** thats because all them Nephite artyfacts was plumb washed out into the |
Atlantic by the rain from the storm clouds s seen in the West on the day
Jesus was executed, and the wreck of the Titanic is holding 'em fast to
the ocean floor so they can not be recovered to prove stupid mo-fo
antiMormons like Darrick is plumb full of shit. .
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R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734, www.somis.org |
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•R. L. Measures
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| Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 11:09 pm Post subject: Re: 18 Facts that Mormons do NOT want YOU to know!!!!!!!!!!! |
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NickYoungh <dejonghnico@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On 25 dec, 02:20, Darrick <darrick_even...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I am a former Mormon missionary and apologist (defender of the faith).
I resigned from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in
1996.
I am baptised protestant, but found out, that I could not live up to
my principles and gave up religion, got drunk and foulmouthed with the
boys, screwed around and worked my way up in construction, where I
retired and stick to my own values, without any frustration.
1. Joseph Smith denied all his life that he was a polygamist. Yet, he
had 33 wives, including his own foster daughters, the Lawrence
sisters, aged 14 and 16.
Yes I did see the Woody Allen movie
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** They were aged 17, 19, 19 and 23 when Joseph "married" them.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 3:25 am Post subject: Re: 18 Facts that Mormons do NOT want YOU to know!!!!!!!!!!! |
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In article
<dae5b0d6-0f60-4323-a7a3-db4122eb61fb@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
NickYoungh <dejonghnico@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On 25 dec, 18:03, 2...@vc.net (*R. L. Measures) wrote:
In article
3e940639-83de-4be6-9384-f577ad9e4...@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Darrick <darrick_even...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I am a former Mormon missionary and apologist (defender of the faith).
I resigned from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in
1996.
Here are a list of facts that Mormons do NOT want you to know.
If you know these facts, and still join the Mormon Church, that's up
to you.
But I think it is only fair that you should know the following facts:
1. Joseph Smith denied all his life that he was a polygamist. Yet, he
had 33 wives, including his own foster daughters, the Lawrence
sisters, aged 14 and 16.
2. The Book of Mormon claims that the American Indians are the
descendants of Lehi, a Jew. Yet, DNA studies of American Indian tribes
reveal they had not one Semitic "gene" in their DNA, no Semitic
ancestry whatsoever. The American Indians are Asians, like the
Chinese. They are closely related to the Tuvan people of Siberia.
3. There is no archaeological evidence for The Book of Mormon. The
book says that the Nephites had horses, sheep, goats, oxen, asses, but
there is no evidence that oxen, sheep or asses (donkies) existed in
the New World before Columbus. Horses in America were too small to
ride, and went extinct about 10,000 years ago, long before Book of
Mormon times. Not one pot-sherd of "Nephite" civilization has ever
been unearthed.
** thats because all them Nephite artyfacts was plumb washed out into the
Atlantic by the rain from the storm clouds s seen in the West on the day
Jesus was executed, and the wreck of the Titanic is holding 'em fast to
the ocean floor so they can not be recovered to prove stupid mo-fo
antiMormons like Darrick is plumb full of shit.
On 28 nov, 03:44, Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnder...@gmail.com
wrote:
Could you scientifically prove that, please
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Just James
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NickYoungh wrote:
| Quote: | On 25 dec, 02:20, Darrick <darrick_even...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I am a former Mormon missionary and apologist (defender of the faith).
I resigned from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in
1996.
I am baptised protestant, but found out, that I could not live up to
my principles and gave up religion, got drunk and foulmouthed with the
boys, screwed around and worked my way up in construction, where I
retired and stick to my own values, without any frustration.
1. Joseph Smith denied all his life that he was a polygamist. Yet, he
had 33 wives, including his own foster daughters, the Lawrence
sisters, aged 14 and 16.
Yes I did see the Woody Allen movie
2. The Book of Mormon claims that the American Indians are the
descendants of Lehi, a Jew. Yet, DNA studies of American Indian tribes
reveal they had not one Semitic "gene" in their DNA, no Semitic
ancestry whatsoever. The American Indians are Asians, like the
Chinese. They are closely related to the Tuvan people of Siberia.
The Book of Mormon does not have any word America or indian, but
speaks about "we arrived at the promissed land" and that you should
have learned as a missionary, was originally and historically around
600bC in Israël and Canaan.
The big ongoing dispute in DNA land is not about Jewish indians but
about the DNA of Jewish Sephardites, Askenazi, Karaites and Khazars.
3. There is no archaeological evidence for The Book of Mormon. The
book says that the Nephites had horses, sheep, goats, oxen, asses, but
there is no evidence that oxen, sheep or asses (donkies) existed in
the New World before Columbus. Horses in America were too small to
ride, and went extinct about 10,000 years ago, long before Book of
Mormon times. Not one pot-sherd of "Nephite" civilization has ever
been unearthed.
Why the Helaman you look for this kind of evidence in America if you
can find it all in "the promissed land"Israël or in Khazaria
(Tsarenheim) "Zarahemlah" of the Russian Jews ?, were the museums are
full of Jewish pot-sherds.
4. From 1848 until 1978, "Negroes" were banned from all Mormon Temples
and the Mormon priesthood (which every Mormon male must hold to get to
the Celestial Kingdom). Mormon prophets during this time taught that
"Negroes" were the inferior and "cursed" children of Cain, and the
"mark of Cain" was a black skin, flat nose, and kinky hair. In 1978
Mormon Church president ended this BAN, but never repudiated the
"Curse of Cain Doctrine" that Negroes are the cursed children of Cain,
and that Cain was changed from a white man to a black man because he
killed his brother Abel.
What Mormon doctrine has to do with the BoM ?
the verses there of the skin getting darker, are those of Lehi/
Jeremiah and the royal princes of the house of David wading !!!
through the fertile swamps of the Blue Nile, where the black Cushite
kingdom of Meroë was with halfcasts from Salomon and the queen of
Sheba.(Menelek)
5. Oliver Cowdery, the man who assisted Joseph Smith in translating
the Book of Mormon, was excommunicated from the Church later for
counterfeiting. He forged phoney money. Can his testimony regarding
Mormonism be believed?
No
6. Before 1990, in the Mormon Temple Endowment Ceremony (a secret
rite) Mormons had to make a movement brining their hand across their
neck to symbolize what would happen if they revealed the secrets of
the Mormon Temple (i.e. their throats being cut). While "symbolic",
this was dropped from all Mormon temple ceremonies in 1990.
So you agree that there is something hidden under that temple ?
and the white salamander Marc Hofman came too close ?
7. Joseph Smith prophesied "in the name of the Lord and let it be
written" that Christ would return in 1891. He prophesied this on two
separate occassions. When confronted with this, Mormons reply, "Well,
its NOT a false prophecy. It would have happened then, but we weren't
ready for it!" The Bible says that the sign of a false prophet is ONE
prophecy that does not come to pass.
Commonse sense says that all prophets are false
8. Brigham Young, the 2nd President of the Mormon Church, taught that
Adam was the Father of our spirits, and the Father of the spirit and
body of Jesus Christ. Today, if a Mormon teaches that, he is
excommunicated.
In Iraq there recently a sect was killed, who believed they descended
from Adam, but not from Eve.
9. Brigham Young taught that interracial couples and their children
should be "killed on the spot" to atone for their abominations (i.e.
being interracial)
I and my black girlfriend experienced these kind of things in the
70ties, as well in Africa as in Europe. Nowadays coloured girls are
the boys favorites.
10. Mormons claim theirs is the fastest growing Church in the world
and that growth is a "sign" from God that the Church is true. Non-
sense. The Mormon Church is growing much slower than the SDA Church,
the Jehovah's Witnesses, or the Assemblies of God, among many more.
very frightening, indeed
11. For many decades Mormon leaders taught that God the Father, an
exalted white man with a human body, came down and had sex with Mary,
one of his spirit-daughters, in order to produce the body of Jesus.
Mary was a "virgin" in the sense that she had sex with God and not
with man. Mormon leaders taught that sex with God was the same as a
man having sex with his own wife. They taught Mary is the daughter-
wife of God the Father. This "Heavenly Incest Doctrine" has never been
repudiated.
It smacks after Ichnaton, who made his own granschildren and invented
the monotheist religion and probably wrote Hieratic, the petroglyph
shorthand of the
Elephantine Jews in Egypt.
12. A group of men in Kinderhook, Illinois, decided in 1843 to deceive
Joseph Smith. They forged small bell-shaped plates of brass, covered
them with rust and symbols, then buried them, then dug them up again
and took them to Joseph Smith to translate. Joseph Smith claimed to
"translate a portion of them" and found them to contain a genealogy of
a Jaredite (a Book of Mormon people) back to Ham, son of Pharoah. This
is known as the "Kinderhook Plates Hoax". How can a true Prophet
translate forged brass plates?
he could not, the golden plates of the Khazar archives were translated
by Khazar Karaite rabbi Alexander Neibaur, a gifted linguist boy,
translator of Napoleon Bonaparte and language teacher of JS.
13. Mormon prophets have taught, and Mormen men believe, that they
shall have many wives in Heaven, including some of their own spirit-
daughters. Obedient Mormon women must accept this, or never be
resurrected. Mormon males are told they will have the right to
resurrect their wives in the resurrection. If a Mormon women is
disobedient to her husband, the male will leave her in the grave.
I will tell my wife, after christmas diner, after !
14. According to Sarah Pratt, wife of Mormon apostle Orson Pratt,
Joseph Smith tried to seduce her while Orson Pratt was on a mission to
England. According to Nancy Rigdon, the 16 year old daughter of Sidney
Rigdon, a leading Mormon at the time, Joseph Smith tried to seduce her
too.
What is wrong about that, I still try to seduce complete schoolcourts
every day.
15. According to Oliver Cowdery, who was the co-founder of the Mormon
Church along with Joseph Smith, he caught Joseph Smith having sex with
Fanny Alger, a 16 year old nanny that took care of the Smith children,
in Kirkland, Ohio, in 1835.
Thats what nannies want and what nannies do on my tv.
16. In May 1844, Joseph Smith boasted he had "done more than any man"
in holding the Church together, more than Paul OR JESUS ever did.
Paul did split up the church and Christ founded her.
17. According to numerous witnesses who lived at the time of Joseph
Smith, the Book of Mormon was based upon a novel by Solomon Spaulding
called "Manuscript Found in the Wilds of Mormon". They claimed that
Sidney Rigdon stole this manuscript from a printer's office in
Pittsburg in 1822, added a lot of additional materials, and with it
wrote The Book of Mormon, with Joseph Smith being the "front man" for
this venture.
I could not find any match in the Spaulding manuscript with the real
old world history but found thousand of matches in the BoM.
18. Joseph Smith claimed that an Angel named Moroni appeared to him in
a vision in 1823 and showed him where there were gold plates deposited
which contained a history of the Nephites in America. The Gold Plates
were given back to the Angel Moroni, thereby denying the world
evidence of their existence in the first place.
Yes, a bloody shame, you should help me in my fight to get the "Khazar
archives"
"taken out of the Temple foundations and exhibited or published.
All these are indisputable facts, which Mormon historians will
acknowledge and the Mormon Church will NOT deny.
So what's your point ?
If you wish to still join the Mormon Church after knowing all this,
then do so. It is a great place to raise a family. The Church has
outstanding social programs for families, singles, and youth. If you
are conservative, non-smoking/non-drinking middle-class white
American, you can find much happiness and fulfillment in the Mormon
Church.
I noticed, but thanks anyway.
Thank you.
No thank you.
Darrick Evenson
Nick Youngh.
Come over your frustration man, get drunk, get laid, screw a Jewish
nanny and do not look for any other relion or Messiah, but take the
BoM as a Jewish historical document from Israël or Russian Jew
Khazaria.
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is actually being identified.
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On 26 dec, 04:37, Just James <post_mas...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
| Quote: | It's like arguing where on earth the "Hobbit" takes place and what group
is actually being identified.
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I know it is happening, but I did follow it.
How is the score there ? any good matches overthere |
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On 26 dec, 22:19, NickYoungh <dejonghn...@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On 26 dec, 04:37, Just James <post_mas...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
It's like arguing where on earth the "Hobbit" takes place and what group
is actually being identified.
I know it is happening, but I did not follow it.
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Okay...
You've added some of your own facts to these points.
Brigham Young said "If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed
mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of
God, is death on the spot. This will always be so." (Journal of
Discourses, Vol.10, p.109)
He's speaking to the priesthood holders of the church, and "death on
the spot" (not killed) would be the consequence to HIM for HIS
actions, and says nothing of the woman or any children. Interracial
marriage was illegal in those days, and therefore any interracial sex
would've been adulterous. And his use of the word death could easily
mean spiritual or physical death. The fact that he says death results
on the spot (implying immediately after, or during, the act) makes
spiritual death the more likely option.
And that's only one of the twists you've put in this little article.
Anyway.
There's no cover-up. Just lies and half-truths (out of context) spread
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