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Dr. Tuan T. Ho
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:09 am    Post subject: Re: <>:<> Meditation <>:<> Reply with quote

On Aug 7, 10:07 am, "Dr. Tuan T. Ho" <Tuan.Thanh...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Jul 30, 5:38 pm, "Dr. Tuan T. Ho" <Tuan.Thanh...@gmail.com> wrote:

In the immense silence of emptiness, Universal Cosmic Energy
illuminates omnipresently over the deep space of impermanent
existence, where sufferings exist endlessly in the profoundly moving
beauty of the Universe.  Meditation is the greatest path to the
cessation of sufferings under the movement of intelligence, peace, and
love.

Rex
Rexsy.comhttp://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=Lexsie2008

*

Greetings!

"Universal Emptiness is omnipresent in all cosmic phenomena..."

Rexsy

"Love is All, and All is Love!"

Cheers!

Rexsy
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Dr. Tuan T. Ho
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:18 pm    Post subject: Re: <>:<> Meditation <>:<> Reply with quote

On Aug 7, 6:09 pm, "Dr. Tuan T. Ho" <Tuan.Thanh...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Aug 7, 10:07 am, "Dr. Tuan T. Ho" <Tuan.Thanh...@gmail.com> wrote:





On Jul 30, 5:38 pm, "Dr. Tuan T. Ho" <Tuan.Thanh...@gmail.com> wrote:

In the immense silence of emptiness, Universal Cosmic Energy
illuminates omnipresently over the deep space of impermanent
existence, where sufferings exist endlessly in the profoundly moving
beauty of the Universe.  Meditation is the greatest path to the
cessation of sufferings under the movement of intelligence, peace, and
love.

Rex
Rexsy.comhttp://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=Lexsie2008

*

Greetings!

"Universal Emptiness is omnipresent in all cosmic phenomena..."

Rexsy

"Love is All, and All is Love!"

Cheers!

Rexsy- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Have a great weekend Everyone! ;)

Love,

Rexsy
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Dr. Tuan T. Ho
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:44 pm    Post subject: Re: <>:<> Meditation <>:<> Reply with quote

On Jul 30, 5:38 pm, "Dr. Tuan T. Ho" <Tuan.Thanh...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
In the immense silence of emptiness, Universal Cosmic Energy
illuminates omnipresently over the deep space of impermanent
existence, where sufferings exist endlessly in the profoundly moving
beauty of the Universe.  Meditation is the greatest path to the
cessation of sufferings under the movement of intelligence, peace, and
love.

Rex
Rexsy.comhttp://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=Lexsie2008

*

Greetings World,

Have a Great weekend!

Cheers!

Rexsy
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Takuji
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 7:20 am    Post subject: Re: <>:<> Meditation <>:<> Reply with quote

On Jul 31, 7:21�am, RaaN <raan2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Jul 31, 12:09 am, NotImportant <chiong...@gmail.com> wrote:





On Jul 31, 7:38 am, "Dr. Tuan T. Ho" <Tuan.Thanh...@gmail.com> wrote:

In the immense silence of emptiness, Universal Cosmic Energy
illuminates omnipresently over the deep space of impermanent
existence, where sufferings exist endlessly in the profoundly moving
beauty of the Universe. �Meditation is the greatest path to the
cessation of sufferings under the movement of intelligence, peace, and
love.

Rex
Rexsy.comhttp://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=Lexsie2008

*

� � Not too long ago was borned a baby named Rex. �Within the first
few moments of life there was this serene emptiness - no eye, no nose,
no ear, no touch, no taste, no beauty, no universe, no light, no
space, no impermanence, no permanence, no existence, no profundity, no
intelligence.

� � In a moment of awakening to the senses life emerged as a struggle
to make sense of the world around. Such a life was the start of death
of our essential being. As we get to be conditioned , learn, discover
and our past life start to catch up with us we started to look for
this serene emptiness - the ever presence of which hound us daily. We
tried everything we could to satisfy our senses and to avoid all that
disagree. All our acquisition be it material or mental doesn't seem to
be able to fill this deep feeling of emptiness. We move from wife to
wife, house to house, job to job, events to events, and we seek
activities to fill this deep emptiness which seem fathomless in its
depth and breadth.

� � We find ourselves in a prison of our own making ; not knowing what
else to do. So we try meditation. We read and believe that we need to
fill this emptiness with "nice" things, "beautiful" things,
"compassionate" things. We hung on this wall of our mind of all the
things that brough comfort to us - things that brought acceptance by
other people. It is such a beautiful prison that we often forget or
are not aware of the ever presence serene emptiness. �We kept
meditating and each new experience we hung it up on the wall and think
we have arrived. We "felt the presence" of God of divine light, we
hear divine sound, smelt divine fragrance and we felt "happy" and
"accepted".

� � �And yet this serene emptiness continue to escape us. We often
catch glimpses of this during our moments of reverie of profound
acceptance and in moments of total forgetfulness and we even compose
songs and literature and poems to try to express the inexpressible.

� � � �And then we felt this profound emptiness yet again.....the
longing continue on in samsara.

� � � �Only in forgetting can there be meditation.

Emptiness is an unattainable illusion.
--
RaaN

simple, direct, and straight to the point...
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RaaN
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:11 am    Post subject: Re: <>:<> Meditation <>:<> Reply with quote

On Aug 9, 3:20 am, Takuji <Takujise...@aol.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Jul 31, 7:21 am, RaaN <raan2...@hotmail.com> wrote:



On Jul 31, 12:09 am, NotImportant <chiong...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Jul 31, 7:38 am, "Dr. Tuan T. Ho" <Tuan.Thanh...@gmail.com> wrote:

In the immense silence of emptiness, Universal Cosmic Energy
illuminates omnipresently over the deep space of impermanent
existence, where sufferings exist endlessly in the profoundly moving
beauty of the Universe. Meditation is the greatest path to the
cessation of sufferings under the movement of intelligence, peace, and
love.

Rex
Rexsy.comhttp://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=Lexsie2008

*

Not too long ago was borned a baby named Rex. Within the first
few moments of life there was this serene emptiness - no eye, no nose,
no ear, no touch, no taste, no beauty, no universe, no light, no
space, no impermanence, no permanence, no existence, no profundity, no
intelligence.

In a moment of awakening to the senses life emerged as a struggle
to make sense of the world around. Such a life was the start of death
of our essential being. As we get to be conditioned , learn, discover
and our past life start to catch up with us we started to look for
this serene emptiness - the ever presence of which hound us daily. We
tried everything we could to satisfy our senses and to avoid all that
disagree. All our acquisition be it material or mental doesn't seem to
be able to fill this deep feeling of emptiness. We move from wife to
wife, house to house, job to job, events to events, and we seek
activities to fill this deep emptiness which seem fathomless in its
depth and breadth.

We find ourselves in a prison of our own making ; not knowing what
else to do. So we try meditation. We read and believe that we need to
fill this emptiness with "nice" things, "beautiful" things,
"compassionate" things. We hung on this wall of our mind of all the
things that brough comfort to us - things that brought acceptance by
other people. It is such a beautiful prison that we often forget or
are not aware of the ever presence serene emptiness. We kept
meditating and each new experience we hung it up on the wall and think
we have arrived. We "felt the presence" of God of divine light, we
hear divine sound, smelt divine fragrance and we felt "happy" and
"accepted".

And yet this serene emptiness continue to escape us. We often
catch glimpses of this during our moments of reverie of profound
acceptance and in moments of total forgetfulness and we even compose
songs and literature and poems to try to express the inexpressible.

And then we felt this profound emptiness yet again.....the
longing continue on in samsara.

Only in forgetting can there be meditation.

Emptiness is an unattainable illusion.
--
RaaN

simple, direct, and straight to the point...

...like a stab in the dark? lol
--
RaaN
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Takuji
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:21 pm    Post subject: Re: <>:<> Meditation <>:<> Reply with quote

On Aug 9, 2:11�am, RaaN <raan2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Aug 9, 3:20 am, Takuji <Takujise...@aol.com> wrote:





On Jul 31, 7:21 am, RaaN <raan2...@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Jul 31, 12:09 am, NotImportant <chiong...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Jul 31, 7:38 am, "Dr. Tuan T. Ho" <Tuan.Thanh...@gmail.com> wrote:

In the immense silence of emptiness, Universal Cosmic Energy
illuminates omnipresently over the deep space of impermanent
existence, where sufferings exist endlessly in the profoundly moving
beauty of the Universe. Meditation is the greatest path to the
cessation of sufferings under the movement of intelligence, peace, and
love.

Rex
Rexsy.comhttp://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=Lexsie2008

*

Not too long ago was borned a baby named Rex. Within the first
few moments of life there was this serene emptiness - no eye, no nose,
no ear, no touch, no taste, no beauty, no universe, no light, no
space, no impermanence, no permanence, no existence, no profundity, no
intelligence.

In a moment of awakening to the senses life emerged as a struggle
to make sense of the world around. Such a life was the start of death
of our essential being. As we get to be conditioned , learn, discover
and our past life start to catch up with us we started to look for
this serene emptiness - the ever presence of which hound us daily. We
tried everything we could to satisfy our senses and to avoid all that
disagree. All our acquisition be it material or mental doesn't seem to
be able to fill this deep feeling of emptiness. We move from wife to
wife, house to house, job to job, events to events, and we seek
activities to fill this deep emptiness which seem fathomless in its
depth and breadth.

We find ourselves in a prison of our own making ; not knowing what
else to do. So we try meditation. We read and believe that we need to
fill this emptiness with "nice" things, "beautiful" things,
"compassionate" things. We hung on this wall of our mind of all the
things that brough comfort to us - things that brought acceptance by
other people. It is such a beautiful prison that we often forget or
are not aware of the ever presence serene emptiness. We kept
meditating and each new experience we hung it up on the wall and think
we have arrived. We "felt the presence" of God of divine light, we
hear divine sound, smelt divine fragrance and we felt "happy" and
"accepted".

And yet this serene emptiness continue to escape us. We often
catch glimpses of this during our moments of reverie of profound
acceptance and in moments of total forgetfulness and we even compose
songs and literature and poems to try to express the inexpressible.

And then we felt this profound emptiness yet again.....the
longing continue on in samsara.

Only in forgetting can there be meditation.

Emptiness is an unattainable illusion.
--
RaaN

simple, direct, and straight to the point...

..like a stab in the dark...

--
RaaN

...making its mark all the time.
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RaaN
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:49 am    Post subject: Re: <>:<> Meditation <>:<> Reply with quote

On Aug 9, 4:21 pm, Takuji <Takujise...@aol.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Aug 9, 2:11 am, RaaN <raan2...@hotmail.com> wrote:



On Aug 9, 3:20 am, Takuji <Takujise...@aol.com> wrote:

On Jul 31, 7:21 am, RaaN <raan2...@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Jul 31, 12:09 am, NotImportant <chiong...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Jul 31, 7:38 am, "Dr. Tuan T. Ho" <Tuan.Thanh...@gmail.com> wrote:

In the immense silence of emptiness, Universal Cosmic Energy
illuminates omnipresently over the deep space of impermanent
existence, where sufferings exist endlessly in the profoundly moving
beauty of the Universe. Meditation is the greatest path to the
cessation of sufferings under the movement of intelligence, peace, and
love.

Rex
Rexsy.comhttp://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=Lexsie2008

*

Not too long ago was borned a baby named Rex. Within the first
few moments of life there was this serene emptiness - no eye, no nose,
no ear, no touch, no taste, no beauty, no universe, no light, no
space, no impermanence, no permanence, no existence, no profundity, no
intelligence.

In a moment of awakening to the senses life emerged as a struggle
to make sense of the world around. Such a life was the start of death
of our essential being. As we get to be conditioned , learn, discover
and our past life start to catch up with us we started to look for
this serene emptiness - the ever presence of which hound us daily. We
tried everything we could to satisfy our senses and to avoid all that
disagree. All our acquisition be it material or mental doesn't seem to
be able to fill this deep feeling of emptiness. We move from wife to
wife, house to house, job to job, events to events, and we seek
activities to fill this deep emptiness which seem fathomless in its
depth and breadth.

We find ourselves in a prison of our own making ; not knowing what
else to do. So we try meditation. We read and believe that we need to
fill this emptiness with "nice" things, "beautiful" things,
"compassionate" things. We hung on this wall of our mind of all the
things that brough comfort to us - things that brought acceptance by
other people. It is such a beautiful prison that we often forget or
are not aware of the ever presence serene emptiness. We kept
meditating and each new experience we hung it up on the wall and think
we have arrived. We "felt the presence" of God of divine light, we
hear divine sound, smelt divine fragrance and we felt "happy" and
"accepted".

And yet this serene emptiness continue to escape us. We often
catch glimpses of this during our moments of reverie of profound
acceptance and in moments of total forgetfulness and we even compose
songs and literature and poems to try to express the inexpressible.

And then we felt this profound emptiness yet again.....the
longing continue on in samsara.

Only in forgetting can there be meditation.

Emptiness is an unattainable illusion.
--
RaaN

simple, direct, and straight to the point...

..like a stab in the dark...

--
RaaN

...making its mark all the time.

;-
--
RaaN ........................></>
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NotImportant
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:55 pm    Post subject: Re: <>:<> Meditation <>:<> Reply with quote

On Aug 4, 10:54 pm, Keynes <Key...@earthlinkspam.net> wrote:
Quote:
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 22:40:19 -0700 (PDT), NotImportant <chiong...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Aug 3, 11:31 pm, Keynes <Key...@earthlinkspam.net> wrote:
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 06:05:49 -0700 (PDT), NotImportant <chiong...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Aug 3, 11:48 am, Keynes <Key...@earthlinkspam.net> wrote:
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 19:10:51 -0700 (PDT), NotImportant <chiong...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Aug 2, 9:59 pm, Keynes <Key...@earthlinkspam.net> wrote:
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:11:57 -0700 (PDT), NotImportant <chiong...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Aug 1, 11:33 am, Keynes <Key...@earthlinkspam.net> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:22:55 -0700 (PDT), NotImportant <chiong...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Jul 31, 11:07 pm, Keynes <Key...@earthlinkspam.net> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:50:44 -0700 (PDT), Rexsy <Dr.Tuan.T...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 30, 10:09 pm, NotImportant <chiong...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 31, 7:38 am, "Dr. Tuan T. Ho" <Tuan.Thanh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Some of what you said was alright, but some of it wasn't.
I poked you with a stick to see which way you'd jump.
Although my opinion is of no value to you, I'll give it
anyway.


One of the local scribe also use this dirty trick whenever he found
himself in an intractable position.
If you had been here long enough you will learn a few dirty tricks as
well Cool.

Quote:
You have had a glimpse but have not reached the
promised land. You don't yet have present awareness
of yourself, so you are reactive and unreceptive.
Mindfulness is lacking as shown by your self-defensive
posture and inability to hear because you can't stop speaking
to yourself.

With all due respect, you know not what you are talking about
and yet felt that you have more glimpses or already have arrived at
the promise land to pass such a judgement.

I had endeavoured to explain what I had said and to point out
what is not "very correct" with what you had said. You sued zen
approach and I replied in kind. How is that reactive ? I did not
REACT to your taunt or your insults but instead endeavoured very
patiently to explain my position and I had asked you to do the same.
You should take a long hard look in the mirror and see if what you
have just said is more applicable to you.

How have I not been able to hear and to "stop speaking to
myself" ? That is a rather strange accusation. Look at how I posted.
I endeavoured with great patience to explain my position and to point
out why what you had said was less than correct. And what did you do
in return ? Have a nice look at the mirror Keynes.

Quote:

You are trying to share your joy, but in misleading terms.

And you would know ? So what you are looking for is terms use by
buddhists ? Wouldn't that be a sign of being bound by name and
form ?


Quote:
If you truly believe what you say in the way you say it,
you are at an impasse, a blocked state, and will go no
farther. Self-satisfaction has set in prematurely.
But it isn't the real thing as shown by how our
conversation has been a trouble for you.

Jeez....I am at a lost at how you arrive at this understanding or
misunderstanding.
If I call you a fuckwit you will say I am troubled. If I reply
patiently and gently and would not respond to your childish sarcasm I
am also troubled. So what gives ?

Quote:

When bodhidarma said "I don't know",
you claimed "Not Important". Are you the
Buddha? Not even the Buddha is the Buddha!
That was a big personal mistake.


And you know why bodhidharma said 'I don't know" ? And you know
why I said Not Important ?

You wanted to use zen approach and yet do not appreciate the essence
of the play of words in zen. And you pass judgement from your total
lack of discernment. Why are you so complacent with your own state ?
Take a good look at the mirror.

Quote:
There's a ways to go yet. Do you watch the breath?
One has to know mind and body before he can
drop them.

Actually who died and made you buddha Cool)))) ?


Knowing your mind is to be fooled by it. Knowing your body is to
be led by it. To drop it is to take it up.

Try figuring that out...oh Buddha Cool.


Quote:
See through time and space with natural mind,
and don't speak of divine or profane, and the
long and short of time.

Natural mind do not distinguish between holy, divine or profane.

Try figuring that out...oh Buddha Cool.


******************
The fact that I don't respond to you has nothing to do with how
"bad" I feel. You have been fucked and you still don't know it.
My time is very limited especially these past few months. I
choose my "fight" and I only engage fully if ti is useful. With you,
it had been very disappointing. As I had said you just want to teach
and talk down to whoever you are engaged with.

Is there some value in what I have just said above ? I hope so
Cool, not to you perhaps but to others.
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Keynes
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:33 pm    Post subject: Re: <>:<> Meditation <>:<> Reply with quote

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:55:57 -0700 (PDT), NotImportant <chiongguo@gmail.com>
wrote:

Quote:
On Aug 4, 10:54 pm, Keynes <Key...@earthlinkspam.net> wrote:
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 22:40:19 -0700 (PDT), NotImportant <chiong...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Aug 3, 11:31 pm, Keynes <Key...@earthlinkspam.net> wrote:
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 06:05:49 -0700 (PDT), NotImportant <chiong...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Aug 3, 11:48 am, Keynes <Key...@earthlinkspam.net> wrote:
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 19:10:51 -0700 (PDT), NotImportant <chiong...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Aug 2, 9:59 pm, Keynes <Key...@earthlinkspam.net> wrote:
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:11:57 -0700 (PDT), NotImportant <chiong...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Aug 1, 11:33 am, Keynes <Key...@earthlinkspam.net> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:22:55 -0700 (PDT), NotImportant <chiong...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Jul 31, 11:07 pm, Keynes <Key...@earthlinkspam.net> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:50:44 -0700 (PDT), Rexsy <Dr.Tuan.T...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 30, 10:09 pm, NotImportant <chiong...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 31, 7:38 am, "Dr. Tuan T. Ho" <Tuan.Thanh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Some of what you said was alright, but some of it wasn't.
I poked you with a stick to see which way you'd jump.
Although my opinion is of no value to you, I'll give it
anyway.


One of the local scribe also use this dirty trick whenever he found
himself in an intractable position.
If you had been here long enough you will learn a few dirty tricks as
well Cool.

You have had a glimpse but have not reached the
promised land. You don't yet have present awareness
of yourself, so you are reactive and unreceptive.
Mindfulness is lacking as shown by your self-defensive
posture and inability to hear because you can't stop speaking
to yourself.

With all due respect, you know not what you are talking about
and yet felt that you have more glimpses or already have arrived at
the promise land to pass such a judgement.

I had endeavoured to explain what I had said and to point out
what is not "very correct" with what you had said. You sued zen
approach and I replied in kind. How is that reactive ? I did not
REACT to your taunt or your insults but instead endeavoured very
patiently to explain my position and I had asked you to do the same.
You should take a long hard look in the mirror and see if what you
have just said is more applicable to you.

How have I not been able to hear and to "stop speaking to
myself" ? That is a rather strange accusation. Look at how I posted.
I endeavoured with great patience to explain my position and to point
out why what you had said was less than correct. And what did you do
in return ? Have a nice look at the mirror Keynes.


You are trying to share your joy, but in misleading terms.

And you would know ? So what you are looking for is terms use by
buddhists ? Wouldn't that be a sign of being bound by name and
form ?


If you truly believe what you say in the way you say it,
you are at an impasse, a blocked state, and will go no
farther. Self-satisfaction has set in prematurely.
But it isn't the real thing as shown by how our
conversation has been a trouble for you.

Jeez....I am at a lost at how you arrive at this understanding or
misunderstanding.
If I call you a fuckwit you will say I am troubled. If I reply
patiently and gently and would not respond to your childish sarcasm I
am also troubled. So what gives ?


When bodhidarma said "I don't know",
you claimed "Not Important". Are you the
Buddha? Not even the Buddha is the Buddha!
That was a big personal mistake.


And you know why bodhidharma said 'I don't know" ? And you know
why I said Not Important ?

You wanted to use zen approach and yet do not appreciate the essence
of the play of words in zen. And you pass judgement from your total
lack of discernment. Why are you so complacent with your own state ?
Take a good look at the mirror.

There's a ways to go yet. Do you watch the breath?
One has to know mind and body before he can
drop them.

Actually who died and made you buddha Cool)))) ?

Knowing your mind is to be fooled by it. Knowing your body is to
be led by it. To drop it is to take it up.

Try figuring that out...oh Buddha Cool.


See through time and space with natural mind,
and don't speak of divine or profane, and the
long and short of time.

Natural mind do not distinguish between holy, divine or profane.

Try figuring that out...oh Buddha Cool.


******************
The fact that I don't respond to you has nothing to do with how
"bad" I feel. You have been fucked and you still don't know it.
My time is very limited especially these past few months. I
choose my "fight" and I only engage fully if ti is useful. With you,
it had been very disappointing. As I had said you just want to teach
and talk down to whoever you are engaged with.

Is there some value in what I have just said above ? I hope so
Cool, not to you perhaps but to others.



On first encounter you advised me to empty my cup.
Not very perspicatious of you. Why not listen to
yourself and 'empty your cup'?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:22 am    Post subject: Re: <>:<> Meditation <>:<> Reply with quote

On Aug 14, 8:55 am, NotImportant <chiong...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Aug 4, 10:54 pm, Keynes <Key...@earthlinkspam.net> wrote:





On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 22:40:19 -0700 (PDT), NotImportant <chiong...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Aug 3, 11:31 pm, Keynes <Key...@earthlinkspam.net> wrote:
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 06:05:49 -0700 (PDT), NotImportant <chiong...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Aug 3, 11:48 am, Keynes <Key...@earthlinkspam.net> wrote:
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 19:10:51 -0700 (PDT), NotImportant <chiong...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Aug 2, 9:59 pm, Keynes <Key...@earthlinkspam.net> wrote:
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:11:57 -0700 (PDT), NotImportant <chiong....@gmail.com
wrote:

On Aug 1, 11:33 am, Keynes <Key...@earthlinkspam.net> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:22:55 -0700 (PDT), NotImportant <chiong...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Jul 31, 11:07 pm, Keynes <Key...@earthlinkspam.net> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:50:44 -0700 (PDT), Rexsy <Dr.Tuan..T...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 30, 10:09 pm, NotImportant <chiong...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 31, 7:38 am, "Dr. Tuan T. Ho" <Tuan.Thanh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Some of what you said was alright, but some of it wasn't.
I poked you with a stick to see which way you'd jump.
Although my opinion is of no value to you, I'll give it
anyway.

   One of the local scribe also use this dirty trick whenever he found
himself in an intractable position.
If you had been here long enough you will learn a few dirty tricks as
well Cool.

You have had a glimpse but have not reached the
promised land.  You don't yet have present awareness
of yourself, so you are reactive and unreceptive.
Mindfulness is lacking as shown by your self-defensive
posture and inability to hear because you can't stop speaking
to yourself.

      With all due respect, you know not what you are talking about
and yet felt that you have more glimpses or already have arrived at
the promise land to pass such a judgement.

      I had endeavoured to explain what I had said and to point out
what is not "very correct" with what you had said. You sued zen
approach and I replied in kind. How is that reactive ?  I did not
REACT to your taunt or your insults but instead endeavoured very
patiently to explain my position and I had asked you to do the same.
You should take a long hard look in the mirror and see if what you
have just said is more applicable to you.

     How have I not been able to hear and to "stop speaking to
myself" ?   That is a rather strange accusation. Look at how I posted.
I endeavoured with great patience to explain my position and to point
out why what you had said was less than correct. And what did you do
in return ?   Have a nice look at the mirror Keynes.



You are trying to share your joy, but in misleading terms.

    And you would know ?   So what you are looking for is terms use by
buddhists ?  Wouldn't that be a sign of being bound by name and
form ?

If you truly believe what you say in the way you say it,
you are at an impasse, a blocked state, and will go no
farther.  Self-satisfaction has set in prematurely.
But it isn't the real thing as shown by how our
conversation has been a trouble for you.

    Jeez....I am at a lost at how you arrive at this understanding or
misunderstanding.
If I call you a fuckwit you will say I am troubled. If I reply
patiently and gently and would not respond to your childish sarcasm I
am also troubled. So what gives ?



When bodhidarma said "I don't know",
you claimed "Not Important".  Are you the
Buddha?  Not even the Buddha is the Buddha!
That was a big personal mistake.

   And you know why bodhidharma said 'I don't know" ?  And you know
why I said Not Important ?

  You wanted to use zen approach and yet do not appreciate the essence
of the play of words in zen.  And you pass judgement from your total
lack of discernment.  Why are you so complacent with your own state ?
Take a good look at the mirror.

There's a ways to go yet.  Do you watch the breath?
One has to know mind and body before he can
drop them.

    Actually who died and made you buddha Cool)))) ?

    Knowing your mind is to be fooled by it. Knowing your body is to
be led by it.  To drop it is to take it up.

    Try figuring that out...oh Buddha Cool.

See through time and space with natural mind,
and don't speak of divine or profane, and the
long and short of time.

     Natural mind do not distinguish between holy, divine or profane.

     Try figuring that out...oh Buddha Cool.

******************
     The fact that I don't respond to you has nothing to do with how
"bad" I feel. You have been fucked and you still don't know it.
     My time is very limited especially these past few months. I
choose my "fight" and I only engage fully if ti is useful. With you,
it had been very disappointing. As I had said you just want to teach
and talk down to whoever you are engaged with.

    Is there some value in what I have just said above ?   I hope so
Cool, not to you perhaps but to others.- Hide quoted text -

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Interesting discussion.... ;)

Rexsy
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