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(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- Advocate for RRR Cult's Loathsome Agendas
| Quote: | Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote:
(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- Rx for RRR Cult's Loathsome
Agendas: Extinction! <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner"" <Jvisions@live.com> AGAIN
PARROTED the RRR Cult:
What exactly are ultra-liberals afraid of? No one is being
compelled to pray.
No social liberal that I've ever known, myself included, has
any objection to "moments of silence."
But you're not a social liberal.
Either you're LYING again
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Ray Fischer
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 7:52 am Post subject: Re: ADF Defends Moment of Silence in Texas Schools |
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(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- Rx for RRR Cult's Loathsome Agendas: Extinction! <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:42:11 -0500,
"Lord Vetinari" <vetinari@ameritech.net> wrote:
"(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- Rx for RRR Cult's Loathsome
Agendas: Extinction!" <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote:
(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- Rx for RRR Cult's Loathsome
Agendas: Extinction! <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner"" <Jvisions@live.com> AGAIN
PARROTED the RRR Cult:
What exactly are ultra-liberals afraid of? No one is being
compelled to pray.
No social liberal that I've ever known, myself included, has
any objection to "moments of silence."
But you're not a social liberal.
Either you're LYING again -- or you have NOT read the
articles in my blogs -- almost al of which I wrote.
You might just want to reread what's been said here. Ray's words
are the truth. Now, it might just be that you honestly don't know the
difference between a social liberal, and yourself, but that'd be on you.
(Once again. Readers, Ray has displayed his very blatant ignorance.)
Ray lies like a rug about me constantly,
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Translation: chiltns doesn't like it when I expose him as the
hypocritical bigot that he is.
Here are some "fact-based" statements about chilton that
have not been refuted.
1) chilton has such a bloated ego that he will post and repost
the same garbage again and again and take offense when others
don't do likewise.
2) chilton is, by his own words, a criminal.
3) chilton is a coward who will run away from facts that prove
him wrong.
4) chilton is an irrational liar who cannot accept the facts
about immigration laws even when they stare him in the face.
5) chilton is insanely bigoted against immigrants.
6) chilton hates the Constitution and wants to discard key
protections in order to persecute immigrants.
7) chilton wants to see thousands of people die.
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Yap
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:21 am Post subject: Re: ADF Defends Moment of Silence in Texas Schools |
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What the f*** you are babbling?
On the contrary, loons always inject fear of sin, hell, punish,
judgement into the minds of the weak, to extract their commitment and
believe.
Did you ever see any one of us do it?
We are just telling the weak that time will be wasted to pin the hope
for an invincible, non-existent non-entity.
Now, since you are refuted for your lies, please have the decency to
apologize.
The Nice Mean Man wrote:
| Quote: | On Aug 13, 4:46�am, Jenny6833A <Jenny68...@aol.com> wrote:
On Aug 13, 12:48 am, "( ` . Craig �Chilton . ) -- Rx for RRR Cult's
Loathsome Agendas: �Extinction!" <xanadu2...@mchsi.com> wrote:
No social liberal that I've ever known, myself included, has
any objection to "moments of silence." After all, a person
can quietly do or think whatever he wants during those times.
Some may choose to pray. So what? Harmless! Because NO
one is being FORCED to use the time for that purpose, and
thus there is NO violation of the principl;e of the separation
of church and state.
You haven't mentioned the precious teaching minutes wasted.
Moreover, what you've described isn't what really happens during those
moments of so-called silence. �They aren't just a 'moment' and in
practice they aren't limited to a minute either. �They aren't really
silent and they're definitely not visually neutral: �there's the
ostentatious opening of bibles, the lips moving, the murmur, and the
busybody monitoring of what others are doing. �The result is peer
pressure to pray, and retaliation against those who don't at least
pretend to do so.
Overall, your argument is no better than that of those who say
reciting the Pledge is harmless, because no one has to say the words
they object to.
In both cases, an example is set and the pressure to conform can be
intense.
:-)
Jenny
Don't worry about what others do, Jenny. Mind your own affairs and
you'll be a happier person for it. You might even feel like praying on
your own. Without all of that fear, I mean.
You atheists.... you're basically fear-driven people. Why, since God
doesn't have you in His clutches yet....?
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(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:28 pm Post subject: Re: ADF Defends Moment of Silence in Texas Schools |
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On 18 Aug 2008 02:51:00 GMT,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
| Quote: | (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- Rx for RRR Cult's Loathsome
Agendas: Extinction! <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
"Lord Vetinari" <vetinari@ameritech.net> wrote:
"(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
"Lord Vetinari" <vetinari@ameritech.net> wrote:
"(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner"" <Jvisions@live.com> AGAIN
PARROTED the RRR Cult:
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| Quote: | What exactly are ultra-liberals afraid of? No one is being
compelled to pray.
No social liberal that I've ever known, myself included, has
any objection to "moments of silence."
If you face yourself, you may come to learn that your public
face is not that of any sort of liberal. You and your bagpipes.
Really? And just HOW MANY conservatives/Neocons do YOU
know who steadfastly support and defend abortion rights, same-
sex marriage for gays, and who totally oppose ALL forms of
censorship?
Just you, no one else.
Your being delusional is duly noted and recorded.
I mostly stay away from rabid right-wingers, because they usually
can't talk about much of anything with one of a liberal POV, ...
THAT's the UNDERstatement of the year! RRR cult lemmings are
some of the most clueless and brainwashed dolts on the planet.
You most certainly are. You're such a brainwshed idiot that you hate
"illegal immigrnts for no sane reason and really seem to believe that
Hawaii is the west coast of the US.
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FIRST off, your *cluelessness" in addressing NONE of that which
was being discussed above in noted, to add to your increasing
laughingstock status. Then...
Hawaii is part of *westernmost* USA, clueless loser. I'm getting a
real kick out of the very OBVIOUS demonstration of your profound
inferiority complex, as manifested by the fact you just can't STAND
realizing that my potential earthquake prediction a couple of years ago
was so accurate. There's nothing much more ludicrous to watch than
a person whose inferiority complex is as obvious as a bright sunrise.
Pathetic.
As for ILLEGAL aliens, I'll just remind the readers of your
pathological lying about that, as you just did now -- and the fact
that you have NEVER been able to counter ANY of the solid FACTS
that indict those criminals, as outlined in the SIG, below.
Not even ONCE! *NO* refutations, whatsoever.
ILLEGAL-alien criminals are totally WITHOUT excuse. And the time
for them ALL to return to their homelands is long overdue.
(And I don't "hate" anyone, Ray. Just another of your pathetic
lies. There is NO excuse for ILLEGAL aliens having SNEAKED into
the country in violation of our laws. DUMBER than that, people don't
GET. With the exception, of course, of the RRR Cult lemmings &
their leaders, and losers like you. *You* even have the ILLEGALS
beat when it comes to sheer stupidity.)
Thanks for playing in the traffic AGAIN, Ray. With, of course,
the usual expected outcome: road kill.
-- Craig Chilton
xanadu222@mchsi.com -- To E-Mail me.
http://www.roadrat.com -- Learn how to get PAID to TRAVEL.
http://apifar.blogspot.com -- Great TACTICS to Fight Bigotry.
http://pro-christian.blogspot.com -- Christianity *vs.* Bigotry.
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FACTS about ILLEGAL Aliens
(1) ILLEGAL aliens did not belong here in the FIRST place.
(2) Federal laws prohibit undocumented entry into the USA.
(3) Federal laws STRICTLY prohibit WORKING in the USA without
proper and legal documentation (such as a Green Card.)
(4) Every ILLEGAL alien is a CRIMINAL by default, for entering
illegally, and even MORE of one if WORKING here.
(5) Throughout our history, tens of millions of people have
worked HARD to EARN residency and citizenship here.
(a) CRIMINALS should NEVER be *rewarded* for being
criminals.
(b) According LEGAL status to ILLEGAL, criminal aliens
without their INSTEAD applying for it through proper
channels and EARNING it would be a massive **insult**
to the millions who did it the RIGHT and LEGAL way.
(6) Urge your Congressperson to SUPPORT H.R. 1940.
More information:
http://apifar.blogspot.com/2008/01/almost-all-of-usas-14-million-illegal.html
If the URL doesn't work, combine its components,
below, in your browser:
http://
apifar.blogspot.com/
2008/01/almost-all-of-usas-14-million-illegal.html
And here's a real EYE-OPENER!! --
http://www.immigrationcounters.com/
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(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:43 pm Post subject: Re: ADF Defends Moment of Silence in Texas Schools |
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On 18 Aug 2008 02:52:48 GMT,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote:
| Quote: | (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- Rx for RRR Cult's Loathsome
Agendas: Extinction! <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
"Lord Vetinari" <vetinari@ameritech.net> wrote:
"(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- Rx for RRR Cult's Loathsome
Agendas: Extinction!" <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote:
(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- Rx for RRR Cult's Loathsome
Agendas: Extinction! <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner"" <Jvisions@live.com> AGAIN
PARROTED the RRR Cult:
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| Quote: | What exactly are ultra-liberals afraid of? No one is being
compelled to pray.
No social liberal that I've ever known, myself included, has
any objection to "moments of silence."
But you're not a social liberal.
Either you're LYING again -- or you have NOT read the
articles in my blogs -- almost al of which I wrote.
You might just want to reread what's been said here. Ray's words
are the truth. Now, it might just be that you honestly don't know the
difference between a social liberal, and yourself, but that'd be on you.
(Once again. Readers, Ray has displayed his very blatant ignorance.)
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[[[ DISHONESTLY-omitted text **restored** below, between
the double brackets. It's amazing the way Ray constantly
makes such a total fool of himself that way in public, for all
to see -- since he always gets CAUGHT. ]]]
| Quote: | Ray lies like a rug about me constantly, [[ and has proven himself
totally CLUELESS when it comes to federal laws against ILLEGAL
entry into the USA, and the penalties that can be exacted for that.
After being challenged on that for weeks, he has NEVER YET
been able to factually counter ANY of the points made in the SIG,
below. ]]
Translation: chiltns doesn't like it when I expose him as the
hypocritical bigot that he is.
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(1) The IMMATURITY manifested by the way you spelled my
name is yet ANOTHER reminder to us of your profound
inferiority complex. You are making quite the JOKE of
yourself, Ray.
(2) You claim I'm "bigoted" because I **support** the hard
work and efforts that LEGAL immigrants to this country
put forth in recent decades to follow the rules, obey the
laws, and immigrate PROPERLY -- against their being
figuratively slapped in the face by millions of ILLEGAL
aliens who instantly made *criminals* of themselves by
SNEAKING into the country. You are WEIRD, Ray!
| Quote: | Here are some "fact-based" statements about Chilton that
have not been refuted.
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Which I ALREADY answered many times before, starting weeks ago,
making road kill of you in the process. For anyone to love making a
total fool of himself as much as you do, you must be a masochist!
| Quote: | 1) Chilton is insanely bigoted against immigrants.
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Wrong, and a very BLATANT lie. (That's Ray's stock-in-trade,
folks, as I'm sure you all know well by now.) With the exception of
native Americans (Indians), ALL Americans either are immigrants or
are descendents of immigrants. "Immigrants" came here LEGALLY.
And ILLEGAL ALIENS (*not* "immigrants") either SNEAKED into the
country, becoming criminals at that instant, or overstayed visas,
becoming criminals at THAT point.
It's time for ALL of the ILLEGAL-alien criminals to go back home
again. The Sheriff of Maricopa County, Arizona, is getting them
DEPORTED in droves, and GOOD for him!
See: http://www.squidoo.com/JoeArpaio
But I think that MY plan is far BETTER, and would BOTH get the
ILLEGAL back home again... almost ALL of them... *without* the
need for either prosecution, deportation, asinine walls that won't
work and would cost billions, or additional border officers. That is
detailed in the SIG.
| Quote: | 2) Chilton hates the Constitution and wants to discard keep
protections in order to persecute immigrants.
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Another absurd LIE. First of all, we're NOT talking about
"immigrants." We're talking about CRIMINALS. And I seek to give
them all an EASY way to go home again, without even facing prose-
cutions or deportations. That's the OPPOSITE of persecution.
Secondly, I, just like most other SENSIBLE people, recognize
that the Constitution is a LIVING document, and not the DEAD one
that Ray wishes it were. And has been interpreted routinely by
the U.S. Supreme Court for almost as long as the USA has been
a country. (1804: Marbury vs. Madison)
| Quote: | 3) Chilton wants to see thousands of people die.
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NO one would die, unless from other causes that would have
claimed them anyway, whether they stayed or left. (Another very
STUPID lie by Ray.)
| Quote: | 4) Chilton is, by his own words, a criminal.
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Wrong again. A speeding ticket doesn't make a person a
criminal. But becoming an ILLEGAL alien DOES. As the above-
mentioned Sheriff has made VERY clear, in just those words, on
CNN and in print. (And in his position, he knows one HELL of a
lot MORE about the law than you probably EVER will, Ray.
| Quote: | 5) Chilton is an insane liar who cannot accept the facts about
immigration laws even when they stare him in the face.
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Another blatant lie. Since I have PRESENTED those laws to
you before, and you are too DISHONEST to acknowledge that
they DO provide for CRIMINAL penalties of imprisonment and
fines.
But under the law that *I* propose, they would NOT be
subjected to that, as the SIG below makes very clear.
Thanks for coming out to play jacks on the freeway, Ray.
You just got the expected outcome for doing that.
-- Craig Chilton
xanadu222@mchsi.com -- To E-Mail me.
http://www.roadrat.com -- Learn how to get PAID to TRAVEL.
http://apifar.blogspot.com -- Great TACTICS to Fight Bigotry.
http://pro-christian.blogspot.com -- Christianity *vs.* Bigotry.
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FACTS about ILLEGAL Aliens
(1) ILLEGAL aliens did not belong here in the FIRST place.
(2) Federal laws prohibit undocumented entry into the USA.
(3) Federal laws STRICTLY prohibit WORKING in the USA without
proper and legal documentation (such as a Green Card.)
(4) Every ILLEGAL alien is a CRIMINAL by default, for entering
illegally, and even MORE of one if WORKING here.
(5) Throughout our history, tens of millions of people have
worked HARD to EARN residency and citizenship here.
(a) CRIMINALS should NEVER be *rewarded* for being
criminals.
(b) According LEGAL status to ILLEGAL, criminal aliens
without their INSTEAD applying for it through proper
channels and EARNING it would be a massive **insult**
to the millions who did it the RIGHT and LEGAL way.
(6) Urge your Congressperson to SUPPORT H.R. 1940.
More information:
http://apifar.blogspot.com/2008/01/almost-all-of-usas-14-million-illegal.html
If the URL doesn't work, combine its components,
below, in your browser:
http://
apifar.blogspot.com/
2008/01/almost-all-of-usas-14-million-illegal.html
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:53 pm Post subject: Re: ADF Defends Moment of Silence in Texas Schools |
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On 18 Aug 2008 02:51:46 GMT,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote:
| Quote: | (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- Rx for RRR Cult's Loathsome
Agendas: Extinction! <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote:
(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner"" <Jvisions@live.com> AGAIN
PARROTED the RRR Cult:
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| Quote: | What exactly are ultra-liberals afraid of? No one is being
compelled to pray.
No social liberal that I've ever known, myself included, has
any objection to "moments of silence."
But you're not a social liberal.
Either you're LYING again...
Or you're not a social liberal.
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Since I *am* very proudly a social liberal, you just admitted to
LYING. For you, THAT is a very *rare* display of honesty!
| Quote: | ...-- or you have NOT read the articles in my blogs -- almost
all of which I wrote.
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I'm betting that you either HAVEN'T read them -- or else you
have been displaying your USUAL display of being unable to compre-
hend the FACTS they present.
| Quote: | (Once again. Readers, Ray has displayed his very
blatant ignorance.)
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-- Craig Chilton
xanadu222@mchsi.com -- To E-Mail me.
http://www.roadrat.com -- Learn how to get PAID to TRAVEL.
http://apifar.blogspot.com -- Great TACTICS to Fight Bigotry.
http://pro-christian.blogspot.com -- Christianity *vs.* Bigotry.
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ILLEGAL Aliens -- A First-Person Report of LOCAL Impact
I live in a community that has approximated 30% of the
public school children are from families that are here illegally. At
10K per student, my taxes have risen to 6K-plus a year, from
just over 3K eight years ago. It's only going to go up, as the ten-
year- old school is woefully overcrowded and a new, larger school,
is in the works. It will ultimately cost my wife and I more money in
tax dollars yet again. It's not just my problem either. There are
many people in the area that are on the 'ropes' financially, and the
extra tax burden will do nothing but make life unnecessarily harder
for them in an already heavily depressed economy.
We are all products of immigration, and I am no exception. Also,
I am now, and have always been, a strong supporter of immigration.
~LEGAL~ immigration, that is!
-- slate <slate1947@hotmail.com>, 7-23-08
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Ray Fischer
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:24 am Post subject: Re: ADF Defends Moment of Silence in Texas Schools |
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| Quote: | Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- Rx for RRR Cult's Loathsome
Agendas: Extinction! <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
"Lord Vetinari" <vetinari@ameritech.net> wrote:
"(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
"Lord Vetinari" <vetinari@ameritech.net> wrote:
"(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner"" <Jvisions@live.com> AGAIN
PARROTED the RRR Cult:
What exactly are ultra-liberals afraid of? No one is being
compelled to pray.
No social liberal that I've ever known, myself included, has
any objection to "moments of silence."
If you face yourself, you may come to learn that your public
face is not that of any sort of liberal. You and your bagpipes.
Really? And just HOW MANY conservatives/Neocons do YOU
know who steadfastly support and defend abortion rights, same-
sex marriage for gays, and who totally oppose ALL forms of
censorship?
Just you, no one else.
Your being delusional is duly noted and recorded.
I mostly stay away from rabid right-wingers, because they usually
can't talk about much of anything with one of a liberal POV, ...
THAT's the UNDERstatement of the year! RRR cult lemmings are
some of the most clueless and brainwashed dolts on the planet.
You most certainly are. You're such a brainwshed idiot that you hate
"illegal immigrnts for no sane reason and really seem to believe that
Hawaii is the west coast of the US.
FIRST off, your *cluelessness" in addressing NONE of that which
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The usual bullshitting.
| Quote: | Hawaii is part of *westernmost* USA, clueless loser.
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It is not the west coast of the USA, you lying assole.
| Quote: | as manifested by the fact you just can't STAND
realizing that my potential earthquake prediction a couple of years ago
was so accurate.
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You're lying outright.
You claimed west coast. Hawaii isn't.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:25 am Post subject: Re: ADF Defends Moment of Silence in Texas Schools |
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(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- Advocate for RRR Cult's Loathsome Agendas
| Quote: | Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote:
(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- Rx for RRR Cult's Loathsome
Agendas: Extinction! <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote:
(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner"" <Jvisions@live.com> AGAIN
PARROTED the RRR Cult:
What exactly are ultra-liberals afraid of? No one is being
compelled to pray.
No social liberal that I've ever known, myself included, has
any objection to "moments of silence."
But you're not a social liberal.
Either you're LYING again...
Or you're not a social liberal.
Since I *am* very proudly a social liberal,
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.... who is PROMOTING the GOP's agenda.
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Ray Fischer
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(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:27 pm Post subject: Re: ADF Defends Moment of Silence in Texas Schools |
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On 19 Aug 2008 06:24:23 GMT,
Ray Fischer <fischer@sonic.net> wrote:
| Quote: | You claimed west coast. Hawaii isn't.
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Hawaii is in the USA, and it's off of the West Coast. And you have
been proved to be a total FOOL over this dozens of times. And you
just keep coming back for more. What a tool.
Suggest you grow up, and see a good shrink about that MASSIVE
inferiority complex of yours.
-- Craig Chilton
xanadu222@mchsi.com -- To E-Mail me.
http://www.roadrat.com -- Learn how to get PAID to TRAVEL.
http://apifar.blogspot.com -- Great TACTICS to Fight Bigotry.
http://pro-christian.blogspot.com -- Christianity *vs.* Bigotry. |
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(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:21 pm Post subject: Re: ADF Defends Moment of Silence in Texas Schools |
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On 19 Aug 2008 06:25:16 GMT,
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote:
| Quote: | (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- Rx for RRR Cult's Loathsome
Agendas: Extinction! <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote:
(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
Ray Fischer <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote:
(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner"" <Jvisions@live.com> AGAIN
PARROTED the RRR Cult:
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| Quote: | What exactly are ultra-liberals afraid of? No one is being
compelled to pray.
No social liberal that I've ever known, myself included, has
any objection to "moments of silence."
But you're not a social liberal.
Either you're LYING again...
Or you're not a social liberal.
Since I *am* very proudly a social liberal, you just admitted to
LYING. For you, THAT is a very *rare* display of honesty!
...-- or you have NOT read the articles in my blogs -- almost
all of which I wrote.
I'm betting that you either HAVEN'T read them -- or else you
have been displaying your USUAL display of being unable to compre-
hend the FACTS they present.
(Once again. Readers, Ray has displayed his very
blatant ignorance.)
... who is PROMOTING the GOP's agenda.
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LOL!!! *Most* of the GOP's agenda sucks. But even a broken
clock is right twice a day. So their SENSIBLE stance regarding ILLEGAL
aliens is analogous to that. Just to give credit where it is DUE.
-- Craig Chilton
xanadu222@mchsi.com -- To E-Mail me.
http://www.roadrat.com -- Learn how to get PAID to TRAVEL.
http://apifar.blogspot.com -- Great TACTICS to Fight Bigotry.
http://pro-christian.blogspot.com -- Christianity *vs.* Bigotry.
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[[ MY note on the following: This deals with ILLEGAL aliens, whom
*I* never refer to as "immigrants." The latter are LEGAL residents
and citizens who folloed the rules and obeyed the laws to EARN
their status, legitimately. Just so you are not confused by the
terminology, whenever you see the word, "immigrant" in this
article, the term refers ONLY to *illegal aliens*, per the title. ]]
Staggering Cost Of Illegal Aliens In America
Taxpayers Taken To The Cleaners
By Frosty Wooldridge
4-10-08
Illegal alien migration into the United States costs American tax-
payers $346 billion annually reported by the National Research Council.
While employers of illegal aliens rake-in billions of dollars, the US citi-
zens subsidize what may be called organized "Slavery in 21st Century
America."
While Congress facilitates outsourcing, insourcing and offshoring of
American jobs by the thousands weekly, that same Congress imports
82,000 legal immigrant monthly who need jobs. Another estimated
100,000 illegal aliens arrive each month without jobs. All those [people]
seize jobs from American citizens at slave wages.
What happens to the American taxpayer?
"Immigrants are poorer, pay less tax, and are more likely to receive
public benefits than American citizens," said Edwin Rubenstein, reporting
on the National Research Council's new book: "The New Americans:
Economic, Demographics and Fiscal Effects of Immigration." The Social
Contract Winter 2007-08. <http://www.thesoicalcontract.com/>
The NRC found that the average immigrant household receives
$13,326 in federal welfare and pays $10,664.00 in federal taxes. Thus,
American taxpayers shell out $2,682.00 for each immigrant household.
In addition, the report showed that immigrants affect 15 different
executive agencies of the U.S. government.
Earned Income Tax Credit-fraud is rampant and IRS does little to verify
existence of children. Clean Air and Climate Change-these goals are
unattainable as long as US population grows-driven by unending immigra-
tion. Emergency medical treatment-US taxpayer money provides $250
million a year to help hospitals defray costs for illegal aliens. Bureau of
Land Management -- the Interior Department spends $1 million to mitigate
environmental damage done by illegals crossing US southern border.
Migrant educational grants -- intended to help states educate children of
illegal workers. More fraud from over-counting. Office of Foreign Labor
Certification-immigrant workers depress wages for US citizens resulting in
declines in federal revenues at $100 billion annually.
As shown on CBS with Katie Couric this past week, 300,000 pregnant
Mexican women cross the border to birth their babies, known as "anchor
babies," in American hospitals at an average cost of $6,000.00 per birth
with no complications. If the child suffers heart defects, Down Syndrome,
Autism or any other problems, the costs jump to $500,000.00 with long-
term care into the millions of dollars. All footed by the America taxpayer!
Not mentioned in Couric's report, that child enjoys free breakfasts and
lunches through 13 years of publicly funded education at an average cost
of $7,000.00 per year. Additionally, American taxpayers foot the bill for
all medical and housing assistance for the child and mother. More hidden
costs add up with ESL classes to teach the child English. Connecticut
alone suffers 120 languages in their schools while Colorado suffers over
40 foreign languages that cripple their classrooms.
The list of expenses paid for by American taxpayer soars with time
and numbers of illegal aliens. Additionally, legal immigrants sponsor their
relatives in chain migration and family reunification at US taxpayer
expense.
These immigrants take American jobs while they burn American tax-
payer funds for immigrant welfare. This all happens while the US national
debt approaches $10 trillion. Immigrants flood into this country while jobs
cascade out to China where we owe $1 trillion in T-bills as of 2008.
Additionally, we suffer a $700 billion annual trade deficit.
Once those illegal aliens hit this country, half of them work off the
books and do not pay $401 billion dollars annually according to the 2005
Bear Stearns Report. Additionally, they form the second largest under-
ground economy in the world. Both legal and illegal immigrants send $80
billion back to their home countries in cash transfers on untaxed money.
When does it end? Not any time soon! Who pays? You do! Like the
proverbial golden calf, the United States taxpayer bleeds to death daily
while our president and Congress fiddle, faddle and scratch their gener-
ous rear ends while they facilitate the death of America's middle class.
SOURCE of the above: http://www.rense.com/general81/dtli.htm
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(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- Rx for RRR Cult's Loathsome Agendas: Extinction! <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Ray Fischer <fischer@sonic.net> wrote:
You claimed west coast. Hawaii isn't.
Hawaii is in the USA, and it's off of the West Coast.
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"[New York] is in the USA, and it's off of the West Coast."
Just as true a statement, and New York is just as far from
the west coast as is New York. Thus, according to your argument,
New York is on the west coast of the US.
| Quote: | And you have
been proved to be a total FOOL over this dozens of times.
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Jack
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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 00:35:29 -0400, "J" <Jvisions@live.com> wrote:
What exactly are ultra-liberals afraid of? No one is being compelled to
pray.
And why should anyone be compelled to be silent while you morons carry
on a one-way conversation with your imaginary friend?
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be one reason.
| Quote: | Are you afraid
your god won't hear you if someone else is talking?
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Sanders Kaufman
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"Jack" <furgfurgfurg@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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And why should anyone be compelled to be silent while you morons carry
on a one-way conversation with your imaginary friend?
There is a social element to praying in groups that would be disrupted
would be one reason.
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Jack
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"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | "Jack" <furgfurgfurg@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
And why should anyone be compelled to be silent while you morons carry
on a one-way conversation with your imaginary friend?
There is a social element to praying in groups that would be disrupted
would be one reason.
If schooling is getting in the way of praying in school - it's not the
schooling that should go - it's the praying.
There's no need for an all or nothing reaction to something that will only |
take 60 seconds. |
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Smiler
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Jack wrote:
| Quote: | "Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote in message
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"Jack" <furgfurgfurg@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
And why should anyone be compelled to be silent while you morons
carry on a one-way conversation with your imaginary friend?
There is a social element to praying in groups that would be
disrupted would be one reason.
If schooling is getting in the way of praying in school - it's not
the schooling that should go - it's the praying.
There's no need for an all or nothing reaction to something that will
only take 60 seconds.
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So there's no need for an all or nothing reaction to you being shot at?
That'll take much less than 60 seconds.
Smiler,
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