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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:27 am Post subject: USA:IRAQ AS RUSSIA :GEORGIA WITH RESERVATION |
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Analogy. USA:Iraq=Russia:Georgia is true with reservation.
Kuwait was part of Iraq until the English separated it from Iraq and
gave it UN vote to become a state. The Honorable Saddam Husein, who
was murdered by the United States of America, thought he could regain
his territory by invading it and taking it over. But to his
disappointment, the United States of America made sure he could not
keep Kuwait by killing the Iraqi army, divided Iraq into two segments
using a no-fly zone in the early 1990s and George W. Bush eventually
invaded Iraq, killing Saddam Husein, and occupying the country. Iraq
is a colony of the United States of America whose (Iraq's) are agents
of the empire.
Georgia was part of the Soviet Union. It got its independence when
the USSR split into smaller territories which gained independence as
states supported by the United States of America. South Ossetia and
Abkhazia were Russian territories which Georgia wants to claim to
complete almost a straight line border with Russia. Georgia invades
these two territories and Russia responds in kind. Like the United
States of America, Russia wants to move forward to occupy all of
Georgia the reason why any resolution to end the fighting is not
acceptable to Russia if it contains statements referring to
independence of Georgia: "Thursday, Russia's UN envoy Vitaly Churkin
spoke optimistically about early approval of the new draft by the
Council.
But diplomats said the Russians were demanding that there be no
reference to respect of Georgia's territorial integrity, a demand
which could prove a "dealbreaker," according to one source."
The question that could be raised is this "What would the United
States of America, the most powerful country on this planet earth, do
when Russia refuses any reference to Georgia's independence? " Not
much. The United Nations Security Council cannot act independently
from Russia as a veto to operate would destroy any unity. Other
members of the Security Council would not dare to challenge Russia as
it is an equal if not more equal than most of the others. So the
United States of America would want to guarantee the flow of oil
through the pipeline from the Caspian Sea to Eastern Europe and the
fruitless country of Georgia may have to endure colonization if not
return to Russian control. In this case, the United States of
America
and Israel will lose the Northern country threatening Iran as well as
the Georgian mercenary soldiers in Iraq. For those who studied
history, it is not unusual for a European country to fade away.
Remember the partition of Poland until Poland ceased to exist? Even
now Russia has a second thought about Poland's independence should
the
United States of America place a missile defense system facing Russia
in it.
I said the analogy is true with reservation. Georgia was part of the
Soviet Union and is influenced socially, militarily and economically
by Russia. Only politically it sides with the West. Yet Iraq had
nothing to do with the United States of America economically,
militarily, socially, and politically. The United States of America
wanted Iraq to be part of USA Empire to have an absolute hegemony
over
Arab/Islamic oil and markets to support the weak dollar. The United
States of America is using its military complex to support its dollar
as it produces nothing to trade with other nations. Its presence in
Iraq seems counterproductive.
http://groups.google.com/group/Imperialism_Zionism/browse_thread/thre...
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Push for UN vote on Georgia truce by week's end
by Gerard Aziakou
2 hours, 13 minutes ago
UNITED NATIONS (AFP) - Sponsors of a UN Security Council resolution
to
formalize the ceasefire deal between Russia and Georgia pushed for a
vote by week's end, but Moscow balked at inserting any reference to
Georgia's territorial integrity.
"Yes ideally, we would like a vote this weekend," a Western diplomat
close to the bargaining involving European, US and Russian diplomats
told AFP Friday.
"But we'll take as long as it takes. We are not going to push for a
vote if we know that the Russians will veto the text -- which does
not
mean we have to give in to all their demands... There has to be hard
bargaining," said the diplomat, who spoke on condition of anonymity."
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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:42 am Post subject: Re: USA:IRAQ AS RUSSIA :GEORGIA WITH RESERVATION |
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On Aug 16, 4:27 pm, Aviroce <dudaras...@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Analogy. USA:Iraq=Russia:Georgia is true with reservation.
Kuwait was part of Iraq until the English separated it from Iraq and
gave it UN vote to become a state. The Honorable Saddam Husein, who
was murdered by the United States of America, thought he could regain
his territory by invading it and taking it over. But to his
disappointment, the United States of America made sure he could not
keep Kuwait by killing the Iraqi army, divided Iraq into two segments
using a no-fly zone in the early 1990s and George W. Bush eventually
invaded Iraq, killing Saddam Husein, and occupying the country. Iraq
is a colony of the United States of America whose (Iraq's) are agents
of the empire.
Georgia was part of the Soviet Union. It got its independence when
the USSR split into smaller territories which gained independence as
states supported by the United States of America. South Ossetia and
Abkhazia were Russian territories which Georgia wants to claim to
complete almost a straight line border with Russia. Georgia invades
these two territories and Russia responds in kind. Like the United
States of America, Russia wants to move forward to occupy all of
Georgia the reason why any resolution to end the fighting is not
acceptable to Russia if it contains statements referring to
independence of Georgia: "Thursday, Russia's UN envoy Vitaly Churkin
spoke optimistically about early approval of the new draft by the
Council.
But diplomats said the Russians were demanding that there be no
reference to respect of Georgia's territorial integrity, a demand
which could prove a "dealbreaker," according to one source."
The question that could be raised is this "What would the United
States of America, the most powerful country on this planet earth, do
when Russia refuses any reference to Georgia's independence? " Not
much. The United Nations Security Council cannot act independently
from Russia as a veto to operate would destroy any unity. Other
members of the Security Council would not dare to challenge Russia as
it is an equal if not more equal than most of the others. So the
United States of America would want to guarantee the flow of oil
through the pipeline from the Caspian Sea to Eastern Europe and the
fruitless country of Georgia may have to endure colonization if not
return to Russian control. In this case, the United States of
America
and Israel will lose the Northern country threatening Iran as well as
the Georgian mercenary soldiers in Iraq. For those who studied
history, it is not unusual for a European country to fade away.
Remember the partition of Poland until Poland ceased to exist? Even
now Russia has a second thought about Poland's independence should
the
United States of America place a missile defense system facing Russia
in it.
I said the analogy is true with reservation. Georgia was part of the
Soviet Union and is influenced socially, militarily and economically
by Russia. Only politically it sides with the West. Yet Iraq had
nothing to do with the United States of America economically,
militarily, socially, and politically. The United States of America
wanted Iraq to be part of USA Empire to have an absolute hegemony
over
Arab/Islamic oil and markets to support the weak dollar. The United
States of America is using its military complex to support its dollar
as it produces nothing to trade with other nations. Its presence in
Iraq seems counterproductive.
http://groups.google.com/group/Imperialism_Zionism/browse_thread/thre...
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Push for UN vote on Georgia truce by week's end
by Gerard Aziakou
2 hours, 13 minutes ago
UNITED NATIONS (AFP) - Sponsors of a UN Security Council resolution
to
formalize the ceasefire deal between Russia and Georgia pushed for a
vote by week's end, but Moscow balked at inserting any reference to
Georgia's territorial integrity.
"Yes ideally, we would like a vote this weekend," a Western diplomat
close to the bargaining involving European, US and Russian diplomats
told AFP Friday.
"But we'll take as long as it takes. We are not going to push for a
vote if we know that the Russians will veto the text -- which does
not
mean we have to give in to all their demands... There has to be hard
bargaining," said the diplomat, who spoke on condition of anonymity."
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I think you will find it was not England that separated Iraq, but
Britain.
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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: USA:IRAQ AS RUSSIA :GEORGIA WITH RESERVATION |
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I understand what you mean. I intentionally demean Great Brittain and
call it England because the real evildoers were English from England.
On Aug 16, 3:42 am, kronec...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
| Quote: | On Aug 16, 4:27 pm, Aviroce <dudaras...@gmail.com> wrote:
Analogy. USA:Iraq=Russia:Georgia is true with reservation.
Kuwait was part of Iraq until the English separated it from Iraq and
gave it UN vote to become a state. The Honorable Saddam Husein, who
was murdered by the United States of America, thought he could regain
his territory by invading it and taking it over. But to his
disappointment, the United States of America made sure he could not
keep Kuwait by killing the Iraqi army, divided Iraq into two segments
using a no-fly zone in the early 1990s and George W. Bush eventually
invaded Iraq, killing Saddam Husein, and occupying the country. Iraq
is a colony of the United States of America whose (Iraq's) are agents
of the empire.
Georgia was part of the Soviet Union. It got its independence when
the USSR split into smaller territories which gained independence as
states supported by the United States of America. South Ossetia and
Abkhazia were Russian territories which Georgia wants to claim to
complete almost a straight line border with Russia. Georgia invades
these two territories and Russia responds in kind. Like the United
States of America, Russia wants to move forward to occupy all of
Georgia the reason why any resolution to end the fighting is not
acceptable to Russia if it contains statements referring to
independence of Georgia: "Thursday, Russia's UN envoy Vitaly Churkin
spoke optimistically about early approval of the new draft by the
Council.
But diplomats said the Russians were demanding that there be no
reference to respect of Georgia's territorial integrity, a demand
which could prove a "dealbreaker," according to one source."
The question that could be raised is this "What would the United
States of America, the most powerful country on this planet earth, do
when Russia refuses any reference to Georgia's independence? " Not
much. The United Nations Security Council cannot act independently
from Russia as a veto to operate would destroy any unity. Other
members of the Security Council would not dare to challenge Russia as
it is an equal if not more equal than most of the others. So the
United States of America would want to guarantee the flow of oil
through the pipeline from the Caspian Sea to Eastern Europe and the
fruitless country of Georgia may have to endure colonization if not
return to Russian control. In this case, the United States of
America
and Israel will lose the Northern country threatening Iran as well as
the Georgian mercenary soldiers in Iraq. For those who studied
history, it is not unusual for a European country to fade away.
Remember the partition of Poland until Poland ceased to exist? Even
now Russia has a second thought about Poland's independence should
the
United States of America place a missile defense system facing Russia
in it.
I said the analogy is true with reservation. Georgia was part of the
Soviet Union and is influenced socially, militarily and economically
by Russia. Only politically it sides with the West. Yet Iraq had
nothing to do with the United States of America economically,
militarily, socially, and politically. The United States of America
wanted Iraq to be part of USA Empire to have an absolute hegemony
over
Arab/Islamic oil and markets to support the weak dollar. The United
States of America is using its military complex to support its dollar
as it produces nothing to trade with other nations. Its presence in
Iraq seems counterproductive.
http://groups.google.com/group/Imperialism_Zionism/browse_thread/thre...
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Push for UN vote on Georgia truce by week's end
by Gerard Aziakou
2 hours, 13 minutes ago
UNITED NATIONS (AFP) - Sponsors of a UN Security Council resolution
to
formalize the ceasefire deal between Russia and Georgia pushed for a
vote by week's end, but Moscow balked at inserting any reference to
Georgia's territorial integrity.
"Yes ideally, we would like a vote this weekend," a Western diplomat
close to the bargaining involving European, US and Russian diplomats
told AFP Friday.
"But we'll take as long as it takes. We are not going to push for a
vote if we know that the Russians will veto the text -- which does
not
mean we have to give in to all their demands... There has to be hard
bargaining," said the diplomat, who spoke on condition of anonymity."
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I think you will find it was not England that separated Iraq, but
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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:27 pm Post subject: Re: Sina's Challenge - I receive many emails from angry Musl |
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Money is of no interest to me.
But you remind me of a Twilight Zone Episode where a banker is sick
and tired of a talkative employee. The banker being the president of
said bank offered a bet to the employee-Five hundred thousand dollars
if the employee would keep his mout shut for one year. The employee
took him on the offer. He cut his own vocal cords and stayed
speechless for one year. The president of the bank admitted in public
that he was a fraud and less of a man and he had no money to pay.
Let us take you on your assertions. 1) You have no proof that the
Prophet Mohammed was what you say he was. Give me your
documentation. 2) What you claim would be false as statements based
on anachronism. In other words your logic is fallacious. It is
merely like an advertisement showing a healthy woman's breast to ask
you to buy a car.
I wrote a nice paper on logic.
On Aug 17, 5:17 am, Raptor <rap...@usforces.gov> wrote:
| Quote: | Sina's Challenge - I receive many emails from angry Muslims, who
sometimes beg me, and sometimes order me to remove this site. I consider
both, pleading and bullying, signs of psychopathology. Argumentum ad
baculum and argumentum ad misericordiam are both logical fallacies.,,If
you do not like this site and want me to remove it, instead of acting as
a bully or as a victim, disprove my charges against Muhammad logically..
Not only will I remove the site, I will publicly announce that Islam
is a true religion. I will also pay ,,$50,000 U.S. dollars ,,to anyone
who can disprove any of the dozen of the accusations that I have made
against Muhammad. I accuse Muhammad of being:,a narcissist a
misogynist a rapist,a pedophile a lecher a torturer -http://www.faithfreedom.org/challenge.htm |
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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:29 pm Post subject: Re: USA:IRAQ AS RUSSIA :GEORGIA WITH RESERVATION |
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On Aug 16, 11:09 am, "Kayid Al-Kuffar" <Kayed...@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "Aviroce" <dudaras...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:bb049ffc-a549-4d84-97f8-9403ba53d9ab@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Analogy. USA:Iraq=Russia:Georgia is true with reservation.
Kuwait was part of Iraq until the English separated it from Iraq and
gave it UN vote to become a state. The Honorable Saddam Husein, who
was murdered by the United States of America, thought he could regain
his territory by invading it and taking it over. But to his
disappointment, the United States of America made sure he could not
keep Kuwait by killing the Iraqi army, divided Iraq into two segments
using a no-fly zone in the early 1990s and George W. Bush eventually
invaded Iraq, killing Saddam Husein, and occupying the country. Iraq
is a colony of the United States of America whose (Iraq's) are agents
of the empire.
Georgia was part of the Soviet Union. It got its independence when
the USSR split into smaller territories which gained independence as
states supported by the United States of America. South Ossetia and
Abkhazia were Russian territories which Georgia wants to claim to
complete almost a straight line border with Russia. Georgia invades
these two territories and Russia responds in kind. Like the United
States of America, Russia wants to move forward to occupy all of
Georgia the reason why any resolution to end the fighting is not
acceptable to Russia if it contains statements referring to
independence of Georgia: "Thursday, Russia's UN envoy Vitaly Churkin
spoke optimistically about early approval of the new draft by the
Council.
But diplomats said the Russians were demanding that there be no
reference to respect of Georgia's territorial integrity, a demand
which could prove a "dealbreaker," according to one source."
The question that could be raised is this "What would the United
States of America, the most powerful country on this planet earth, do
when Russia refuses any reference to Georgia's independence? " Not
much. The United Nations Security Council cannot act independently
from Russia as a veto to operate would destroy any unity. Other
members of the Security Council would not dare to challenge Russia as
it is an equal if not more equal than most of the others. So the
United States of America would want to guarantee the flow of oil
through the pipeline from the Caspian Sea to Eastern Europe and the
fruitless country of Georgia may have to endure colonization if not
return to Russian control. In this case, the United States of
America
and Israel will lose the Northern country threatening Iran as well as
the Georgian mercenary soldiers in Iraq. For those who studied
history, it is not unusual for a European country to fade away.
Remember the partition of Poland until Poland ceased to exist? Even
now Russia has a second thought about Poland's independence should
the
United States of America place a missile defense system facing Russia
in it.
I said the analogy is true with reservation. Georgia was part of the
Soviet Union and is influenced socially, militarily and economically
by Russia. Only politically it sides with the West. Yet Iraq had
nothing to do with the United States of America economically,
militarily, socially, and politically. The United States of America
wanted Iraq to be part of USA Empire to have an absolute hegemony
over
Arab/Islamic oil and markets to support the weak dollar. The United
States of America is using its military complex to support its dollar
as it produces nothing to trade with other nations. Its presence in
Iraq seems counterproductive.
http://groups.google.com/group/Imperialism_Zionism/browse_thread/thre...
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Push for UN vote on Georgia truce by week's end
by Gerard Aziakou
2 hours, 13 minutes ago
UNITED NATIONS (AFP) - Sponsors of a UN Security Council resolution
to
formalize the ceasefire deal between Russia and Georgia pushed for a
vote by week's end, but Moscow balked at inserting any reference to
Georgia's territorial integrity.
"Yes ideally, we would like a vote this weekend," a Western diplomat
close to the bargaining involving European, US and Russian diplomats
told AFP Friday.
"But we'll take as long as it takes. We are not going to push for a
vote if we know that the Russians will veto the text -- which does
not
mean we have to give in to all their demands... There has to be hard
bargaining," said the diplomat, who spoke on condition of anonymity."
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I appreciate your endorsement. These individuals are propagandists.
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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:09 pm Post subject: Re: USA:IRAQ AS RUSSIA :GEORGIA WITH RESERVATION |
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"Aviroce" <dudaraster@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Analogy. USA:Iraq=Russia:Georgia is true with reservation.
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Kuwait was part of Iraq until the English separated it from Iraq and
gave it UN vote to become a state. The Honorable Saddam Husein, who
was murdered by the United States of America, thought he could regain
his territory by invading it and taking it over. But to his
disappointment, the United States of America made sure he could not
keep Kuwait by killing the Iraqi army, divided Iraq into two segments
using a no-fly zone in the early 1990s and George W. Bush eventually
invaded Iraq, killing Saddam Husein, and occupying the country. Iraq
is a colony of the United States of America whose (Iraq's) are agents
of the empire.
Georgia was part of the Soviet Union. It got its independence when
the USSR split into smaller territories which gained independence as
states supported by the United States of America. South Ossetia and
Abkhazia were Russian territories which Georgia wants to claim to
complete almost a straight line border with Russia. Georgia invades
these two territories and Russia responds in kind. Like the United
States of America, Russia wants to move forward to occupy all of
Georgia the reason why any resolution to end the fighting is not
acceptable to Russia if it contains statements referring to
independence of Georgia: "Thursday, Russia's UN envoy Vitaly Churkin
spoke optimistically about early approval of the new draft by the
Council.
But diplomats said the Russians were demanding that there be no
reference to respect of Georgia's territorial integrity, a demand
which could prove a "dealbreaker," according to one source."
The question that could be raised is this "What would the United
States of America, the most powerful country on this planet earth, do
when Russia refuses any reference to Georgia's independence? " Not
much. The United Nations Security Council cannot act independently
from Russia as a veto to operate would destroy any unity. Other
members of the Security Council would not dare to challenge Russia as
it is an equal if not more equal than most of the others. So the
United States of America would want to guarantee the flow of oil
through the pipeline from the Caspian Sea to Eastern Europe and the
fruitless country of Georgia may have to endure colonization if not
return to Russian control. In this case, the United States of
America
and Israel will lose the Northern country threatening Iran as well as
the Georgian mercenary soldiers in Iraq. For those who studied
history, it is not unusual for a European country to fade away.
Remember the partition of Poland until Poland ceased to exist? Even
now Russia has a second thought about Poland's independence should
the
United States of America place a missile defense system facing Russia
in it.
I said the analogy is true with reservation. Georgia was part of the
Soviet Union and is influenced socially, militarily and economically
by Russia. Only politically it sides with the West. Yet Iraq had
nothing to do with the United States of America economically,
militarily, socially, and politically. The United States of America
wanted Iraq to be part of USA Empire to have an absolute hegemony
over
Arab/Islamic oil and markets to support the weak dollar. The United
States of America is using its military complex to support its dollar
as it produces nothing to trade with other nations. Its presence in
Iraq seems counterproductive.
http://groups.google.com/group/Imperialism_Zionism/browse_thread/thre...
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Push for UN vote on Georgia truce by week's end
by Gerard Aziakou
2 hours, 13 minutes ago
UNITED NATIONS (AFP) - Sponsors of a UN Security Council resolution
to
formalize the ceasefire deal between Russia and Georgia pushed for a
vote by week's end, but Moscow balked at inserting any reference to
Georgia's territorial integrity.
"Yes ideally, we would like a vote this weekend," a Western diplomat
close to the bargaining involving European, US and Russian diplomats
told AFP Friday.
"But we'll take as long as it takes. We are not going to push for a
vote if we know that the Russians will veto the text -- which does
not
mean we have to give in to all their demands... There has to be hard
bargaining," said the diplomat, who spoke on condition of anonymity."
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:17 pm Post subject: Sina's Challenge - I receive many emails from angry Muslims, |
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Sina's Challenge - I receive many emails from angry Muslims, who
sometimes beg me, and sometimes order me to remove this site. I consider
both, pleading and bullying, signs of psychopathology. Argumentum ad
baculum and argumentum ad misericordiam are both logical fallacies.,,If
you do not like this site and want me to remove it, instead of acting as
a bully or as a victim, disprove my charges against Muhammad logically.
Not only will I remove the site, I will publicly announce that Islam
is a true religion. I will also pay ,,$50,000 U.S. dollars ,,to anyone
who can disprove any of the dozen of the accusations that I have made
against Muhammad. I accuse Muhammad of being:,a narcissist a
misogynist a rapist,a pedophile a lecher a torturer -
http://www.faithfreedom.org/challenge.htm |
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:38 pm Post subject: Re: Sina's Challenge - I receive many emails from angry Musl |
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On Aug 20, 8:29 am, Raptor <rap...@usforces.gov> wrote:
| Quote: | Raptor wrote:
Sina's Challenge - I receive many emails from angry Muslims, who
sometimes beg me, and sometimes order me to remove this site. I consider
both, pleading and bullying, signs of psychopathology. Argumentum ad
baculum and argumentum ad misericordiam are both logical fallacies.,,If
you do not like this...
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:54 pm Post subject: Re: USA:IRAQ AS RUSSIA :GEORGIA WITH RESERVATION |
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On Aug 16, 1:27 pm, Aviroce <dudaras...@gmail.com> wrote:
Analogy. USA:Iraq=Russia:Georgia is true with reservation.
Kuwait was part of Iraq until the English separated it from Iraq and
gave it UN vote to become a state. The Honorable Saddam Husein, who
was murdered by the United States of America, thought he could regain
his territory by invading it and taking it over. But to his
disappointment, the United States of America made sure he could not
keep Kuwait by killing the Iraqi army, divided Iraq into two segments
using a no-fly zone in the early 1990s and George W. Bush eventually
invaded Iraq, killing Saddam Husein, and occupying the country. Iraq
is a colony of the United States of America whose (Iraq's) are agents
of the empire.
Georgia was part of the Soviet Union. It got its independence when
the USSR split into smaller territories which gained independence as
states supported by the United States of America. South Ossetia and
Abkhazia were Russian territories which Georgia wants to claim to
complete almost a straight line border with Russia. Georgia invades
these two territories and Russia responds in kind. Like the United
States of America, Russia wants to move forward to occupy all of
Georgia the reason why any resolution to end the fighting is not
acceptable to Russia if it contains statements referring to
independence of Georgia: "Thursday, Russia's UN envoy Vitaly Churkin
spoke optimistically about early approval of the new draft by the
Council.
But diplomats said the Russians were demanding that there be no
reference to respect of Georgia's territorial integrity, a demand
which could prove a "dealbreaker," according to one source."
The question that could be raised is this "What would the United
States of America, the most powerful country on this planet earth, do
when Russia refuses any reference to Georgia's independence? " Not
much. The United Nations Security Council cannot act independently
from Russia as a veto to operate would destroy any unity. Other
members of the Security Council would not dare to challenge Russia as
it is an equal if not more equal than most of the others. So the
United States of America would want to guarantee the flow of oil
through the pipeline from the Caspian Sea to Eastern Europe and the
fruitless country of Georgia may have to endure colonization if not
return to Russian control. In this case, the United States of
America
and Israel will lose the Northern country threatening Iran as well as
the Georgian mercenary soldiers in Iraq. For those who studied
history, it is not unusual for a European country to fade away.
Remember the partition of Poland until Poland ceased to exist? Even
now Russia has a second thought about Poland's independence should
the
United States of America place a missile defense system facing Russia
in it.
I said the analogy is true with reservation. Georgia was part of the
Soviet Union and is influenced socially, militarily and economically
by Russia. Only politically it sides with the West. Yet Iraq had
nothing to do with the United States of America economically,
militarily, socially, and politically. The United States of America
wanted Iraq to be part of USA Empire to have an absolute hegemony
over
Arab/Islamic oil and markets to support the weak dollar. The United
States of America is using its military complex to support its dollar
as it produces nothing to trade with other nations. Its presence in
Iraq seems counterproductive.
http://groups.google.com/group/Imperialism_Zionism/browse_thread/thre...
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Push for UN vote on Georgia truce by week's end
by Gerard Aziakou
2 hours, 13 minutes ago
UNITED NATIONS (AFP) - Sponsors of a UN Security Council resolution
to
formalize the ceasefire deal between Russia and Georgia pushed for a
vote by week's end, but Moscow balked at inserting any reference to
Georgia's territorial integrity.
"Yes ideally, we would like a vote this weekend," a Western diplomat
close to the bargaining involving European, US and Russian diplomats
told AFP Friday.
"But we'll take as long as it takes. We are not going to push for a
vote if we know that the Russians will veto the text -- which does
not
mean we have to give in to all their demands... There has to be hard
bargaining," said the diplomat, who spoke on condition of anonymity."
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Aviroce Guest
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:16 pm Post subject: Raptor: PROVE YOUR ASSERTIONS AND WILL FOLLOW WITH COUNTEREX |
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My nickname is Aviroce (Ibn Rushd, the man who said "Allah created the
Universe and He let go of it.") Also all these names I posted for my
name are not true. Sina or Ibn Sina was the finest doctor,
philosopher, educator.
As for your bet, I posted an answer for you about the Twilight Zone.
Mathematicians have different avenues to prove or disprove a
statement. Here is one, prove your statements and I will provide
counter examples to show you are wrong.
On Aug 20, 11:29 am, Raptor <rap...@usforces.gov> wrote:
| Quote: | Raptor wrote:
Sina's Challenge - I receive many emails from angry Muslims, who
sometimes beg me, and sometimes order me to remove this site. I consider
both, pleading and bullying, signs of psychopathology. Argumentum ad
baculum and argumentum ad misericordiam are both logical fallacies.,,If
you do not like this site and want me to remove it, instead of acting as
a bully or as a victim, disprove my charges against Muhammad logically.
Not only will I remove the site, I will publicly announce that Islam is
a true religion. I will also pay ,,$50,000 U.S. dollars ,,to anyone who
can disprove any of the dozen of the accusations that I have made
against Muhammad. I accuse Muhammad of being:,a narcissist a
misogynist a rapist,a pedophile a lecher a torturer -
http://www.faithfreedom.org/challenge.htm
Sina's Challenge - I receive many emails from angry Muslims, who
sometimes beg me, and sometimes order me to remove this site. I consider
both, pleading and bullying, signs of psychopathology. Argumentum ad
baculum and argumentum ad misericordiam are both logical fallacies.,,If
you do not like this site and want me to remove it, instead of acting as
a bully or as a victim, disprove my charges against Muhammad logically..
Not only will I remove the site, I will publicly announce that Islam
is a true religion. I will also pay ,,$50,000 U.S. dollars ,,to anyone
who can disprove any of the dozen of the accusations that I have made
against Muhammad. I accuse Muhammad of being:,a narcissist a
misogynist a rapist,a pedophile a lecher a torturer -http://www.faithfreedom.org/challenge.htm |
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Raptor Guest
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:10 am Post subject: Re: Sina's Challenge - I receive many emails from angry Musl |
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Raptor wrote:
| Quote: | Sina's Challenge - I receive many emails from angry Muslims, who
sometimes beg me, and sometimes order me to remove this site. I consider
both, pleading and bullying, signs of psychopathology. Argumentum ad
baculum and argumentum ad misericordiam are both logical fallacies.,,If
you do not like this site and want me to remove it, instead of acting as
a bully or as a victim, disprove my charges against Muhammad logically.
Not only will I remove the site, I will publicly announce that Islam is
a true religion. I will also pay ,,$50,000 U.S. dollars ,,to anyone who
can disprove any of the dozen of the accusations that I have made
against Muhammad. I accuse Muhammad of being:,a narcissist a
misogynist a rapist,a pedophile a lecher a torturer -
http://www.faithfreedom.org/challenge.htm
Sina's Challenge - I receive many emails from angry Muslims, who |
sometimes beg me, and sometimes order me to remove this site. I consider
both, pleading and bullying, signs of psychopathology. Argumentum ad
baculum and argumentum ad misericordiam are both logical fallacies.,,If
you do not like this site and want me to remove it, instead of acting as
a bully or as a victim, disprove my charges against Muhammad logically.
Not only will I remove the site, I will publicly announce that Islam
is a true religion. I will also pay ,,$50,000 U.S. dollars ,,to anyone
who can disprove any of the dozen of the accusations that I have made
against Muhammad. I accuse Muhammad of being:,a narcissist a
misogynist a rapist,a pedophile a lecher a torturer -
http://www.faithfreedom.org/challenge.htm |
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RBRK Guest
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:11 pm Post subject: Re: Sina's Challenge - I receive many emails from angry Musl |
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Raptor wrote:
| Quote: | Sina's Challenge - I receive many emails from angry Muslims, who
sometimes beg me, and sometimes order me to remove this site. I consider
both, pleading and bullying, signs of psychopathology. Argumentum ad
baculum and argumentum ad misericordiam are both logical fallacies.,,If
you do not like this site and want me to remove it, instead of acting as
a bully or as a victim, disprove my charges against Muhammad logically.
Not only will I remove the site, I will publicly announce that Islam is
a true religion. I will also pay ,,$50,000 U.S. dollars ,,to anyone who
can disprove any of the dozen of the accusations that I have made
against Muhammad. I accuse Muhammad of being:,a narcissist a
misogynist a rapist,a pedophile a lecher a torturer -
http://www.faithfreedom.org/challenge.htm
moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child |
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks
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Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!
info@muslimmatch.com or apache@muslimmatch.com or
politicsIranian@googlegroups.com
jamiat@islamsa.org.za
dsirc@mweb.co.za
jamiatmp@lantic.co.za
sanha-kzn@sanha.org.za
sanha-gp@sanha.org.za
sanha-cpt@sanha.org.za
helpline@sanha.org.za
islamwayoflife@googlegroups.com
furtivo4000@gmail.com
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Yaako Warrior from AUZ, G Guest
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:48 am Post subject: Re: Sina's Challenge - I receive many emails from angry Musl |
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Raptor wrote:
| Quote: | Sina's Challenge - I receive many emails from angry Muslims, who
sometimes beg me, and sometimes order me to remove this site. I consider
both, pleading and bullying, signs of psychopathology. Argumentum ad
baculum and argumentum ad misericordiam are both logical fallacies.,,If
you do not like this site and want me to remove it, instead of acting as
a bully or as a victim, disprove my charges against Muhammad logically.
Not only will I remove the site, I will publicly announce that Islam is
a true religion. I will also pay ,,$50,000 U.S. dollars ,,to anyone who
can disprove any of the dozen of the accusations that I have made
against Muhammad. I accuse Muhammad of being:,a narcissist a
misogynist a rapist,a pedophile a lecher a torturer -
http://www.faithfreedom.org/challenge.htm
HOW TO BECOME A SHITSKIN MOSLEM - this is how: fuck goats, fuck your |
mother (nikomak), molest children, wear a beekeepers outfit all the
time, never shower or bath, beat your wives, learn terrorist activities
at a maddrassa, wipe your ass with stones, sell the donkey you fucked to
a nearby village, marry a nine year-old , send your child off to an
indoctrination camp, practice thighing with little kids, ............
Practice all those and you too could become a prophet !!
Elif air ab tizak mohammad !!!!
info@muslimmatch.com or apache@muslimmatch.com or
politicsIranian@googlegroups.com
jamiat@islamsa.org.za
dsirc@mweb.co.za
jamiatmp@lantic.co.za
sanha-kzn@sanha.org.za
sanha-gp@sanha.org.za
sanha-cpt@sanha.org.za
helpline@sanha.org.za
islamwayoflife@googlegroups.com
furtivo4000@gmail.com
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Yaako Warrior from AUZ, G Guest
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:25 am Post subject: Re: Sina's Challenge - I receive many emails from angry Musl |
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Re: Sina's Challenge - I receive many emails from angry Muslims, who
sometimes beg me, and sometimes order me to remove this site. I consider
both, pleading and bullying, signs of psychopathology. Argumentum ad
baculum and argumentum ad misericordiam are both logical
fallacies.,,If you do not like this site and want me to remove it,
instead of acting as a bully or as a victim, disprove my charges
against Muhammad logically. Not only will I remove the site, I will
publicly announce that Islam is a true religion. I will also pay
,,$50,000 U.S. dollars ,,to anyone who can disprove any of the dozen of
the accusations that I have made against Muhammad. I accuse Muhammad of
being:,a narcissist a misogynist a rapist,a pedophile a
lecher a torturer - http://www.faithfreedom.org/challenge.htm |
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