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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:13 am    Post subject: Pride Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:13 am    Post subject: Re: EVIDENCE OF NO GODS Reply with quote

"Thom Madura" <Tommadura@optonline.net> wrote in message
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monkfish wrote:

God is love.
Do you have any idea what kind of statement that is?

as I have constantly pointed out - you are wrong
He is not love

That's YOUR religion talking, Thom. Our religion says, that our

Christian "God is love", and we see this divine love everywhere. Get used to
it already, Thom, you're not getting any converts here!!!!


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:13 am    Post subject: Re: GOD'S DON'T EXIST Reply with quote

On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:04:38 +0000 (UTC), EskWIRED@spamblock.panix.com
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==>In alt.religion.christian Bill M <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote:
==>> When there is NO objective verifiable evidence for something's existence it
==>> is logical to assume it does no exist.

==>Wrong, You have no information one way or the other.

Of course he does.

If Bill has even a modicum of education in
history, he has the information he presented,
i.e.: that there is NO objective verifiable evidence
for the existence of any gods or anything
supernatural.

In all of human history there has never been such
verifiable evidence, which is why all believers
ultimately concede that their belief is based only on
faith (mainly in the veracity of an ancient book of
fairy tales of unknown authorship).

Now, faith may be enough reason for some folks
to believe in the implausible, but people with actual
working brains are not willing to accept outlandish
assertions without credible evidence.

(This is what makes them intelligent, as opposed to
religious people who are, more often than not, dumb
as shit.)

The absence of evidence -- particularly when that
absence persists over milennia -- is undisputably
evidence of absence.

--
"A man full of faith is simply one who has lost (or never had) the
capacity for clear and realistic thought. He is not a mere ass: he is
actually ill."  -H. L. Mencken























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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:13 am    Post subject: Re: EVIDENCE OF NO GODS Reply with quote

"Preventer of Work" <not_this@nospam.xxx> wrote in message
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Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 16:22:11 -0700 (PDT), reporter01
MikeWalrus626@hotmail.com> wrote:

There might be a logical reason for some people to believe in god.

Childhood brainwashing they have been unable to throw off because
they don't understand that there is a real world beyond their religion
which it is merely one of thousands of equivalent religious beliefs.

You forgot to finish you sentence. ...they don't understand that there

is a real world beyond their religion TO GIVE THEM GUIDANCE AND AS TO
ETHICAL AND MORAL BEHAVIOUR, AND THE MOTIVATION TO FOLLOW IT.
All you need now to tell us, is where that REAL WORLD is. Surely you
don't mean the currently fashionable behaviour as marketed by the media? Do
you?
After that you lost the reader, for you apparently advocate the reader
should not study the many variant philosophies of life and make a choice,
but be satisfied with the one he gets from "THE REAL WORLD" as doled out by
the media.
Is that what you meant?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:13 am    Post subject: Re: WHICH GOD/ RELIGION IS REAL? Reply with quote

"Preventer of Work" <not_this@nospam.xxx> wrote in message
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Bill M wrote:
There are hundreds of gods and religions. How do we know which one (If
any!) is real and which are fakes???

Aren't you lucky to live in a free country Bill, where you still can

make your own choice and don't have to fear of being coerced.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:13 am    Post subject: Re: A eulogy for mom. Please help Reply with quote

On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 07:32:14 -0700, "Chuck Stamford"
<shell-stamford@cox.net> spake thusly:


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"Pastor Dave" <ananias917_@_gmail.com> wrote in message
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"alt" <spamtrap@lazyeyez.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 10:03:55 -0400, Pastor Dave wrote:

Personally, I believe that much of the Bible (OT & NT) has been changed
over time to reflect a number of standards that are strictly dogmatic
in
nature.

In other words, if you don't like something, just claim it was changed
and ignore it, because it doesn't suit your concept of what it should
say. After all, of course you are the one to judge the Bible! God
couldn't get it right anyway, right? he wasn't powerful enough to make
sure His word stayed true and you know more than He does anyway, right?

And it goes against all evidence of manuscripts that we have from around
the middle east, northern africa and europe. It is remarkably preserved.
We have manuscripts from as early as 50-60AD. That doesn't leave a lot
of
time for any changes (about 27-37 years). And of the manuscripts we do
have, very little is in question - roughly .25% of the new testament.
That's bloody remarkable.

It's actually a lot better than you think. I don't know who you're using
for a source, but only about 3% of the New Testament is in any serious
question as to authenticity. The Old Testament is closer to your figure,
but even it isn't 25%.

He didn't say 25%.

Hey, you're right! I'm going to have to start using a magnifying glass
along with my bifocals.

Maybe your problem is that you're trying to read through
your reading part of your bifocals and you might consider
trifocals. :)

--

The Last Days were in the first century:

Romans 13:11-2

11) And that, knowing the time, that NOW
it is high time to awake out of sleep:
for NOW is our salvation nearer than when
we believed.
12) The night is far spent, the day is
AT HAND: let us therefore cast off the
works of darkness, and let us put on
the armor of light.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:13 am    Post subject: Re: You can make the koran say what ever you want it to say, Reply with quote

On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 01:36:34 GMT, "The Happy Hippy"
<the.happy.hippy.nntp@ntlworld.com> spake thusly:


Quote:
"daddy cool" <extremismsurveillance@googlemail.com> wrote ...

when you look at all the cults of religions or self help
or politics, they all claim to be the right way. Take
Christian cults like JW's or Mormons or the televangelists
they are way off what the bible says infact hardly any
ever reffer to it anyway it's all self help or religious
mumbo jumbo, maybe it's all a poor reflection on how
humans are as a specise, you can deceieve some of
the people all of the time and all of the people some
of the time. you can guarentee some preachers can
make people believe anything, watch a televangelist
for an hour and there is no scriptural reference just
"the lord told me so and such" and the crowd believe
him like he is god or something.

GWB ain't no preacher but he convinced a great many
that there were WMD in Iraq despite many in US and
foreign intelligence services saying otherwise. Simple
lies and smoke and mirrors usually do it. Best when
coupled with gullible people who want to believe what
they're told. A bit of hatred also works well as we saw
with Iraq, and throwing in the notion of "Crusade"
appealed to those who wanted to kick-off a religious war.

I wonder if GWB will try to pull off the same trick over Iran ?

Gullible people? Hate? It's all the preachers' fault?

Is that true??? Hmmm..

I don't like the idea of war, but liberals always think
they're not just as gullible as most others people
and yet they are, especially since they are indeed
"willingly ignorant", which is evident when they
shout out their agreement with the latest liberal rant,
even if they know it's not true and they do it, simply
because they hate any conservative. Unless of course,
the conservative agrees with them, which of course,
would make them a liberal. :)

As for Iraq, again, I don't like war, but here's a thought
for the "oh so wise" liberals...

Let's imagine that what the liberals say is true and that
the war was over oil. Probably was. :)

But now let's wonder for a moment. About what?
Well, that's easy! :)

Let's wonder what would happen if Iraq went unopposed
all those years ago and rolled in and ended up controlling
the oil. What would happen to us?

The liberal likes to rant on, pretending that nothing would
happen to us because of that. You know, as if we don't
actually use oil or anything.

But is that true? Hmmm... Well, let's see... We have gas
at around $4.00 p/gal. And we won't note anything above
regular unleaded, because that's not even talked about
any more. But hey, no change, right? And if it was due
to Iraq and went up to $20.00 p/gal, since their game
would be to hit the U.S. hard with oil prices? Hmmm...

1) Food prices would skyrocket, meaning we couldn't eat.

2) Gas would end up costing so much, that one would
spend a week's pay just to fuel their cars to go to work.

3) The city would be laying off their workers, which they
are already doing here, because they couldn't afford
to fuel the vehicles required to do "X" job for all of
those workers.

Now I know, I know, the liberal will respond by saying
that people would be able to pay for their gas, because
liberals forget by design that not everyone makes that
kind of money. There are so many more people who
make so much less money than what people think
they do and this means that they would be spending,
for example (assuming what is typical here, which is
a trop to the next county and back for work), about
$250 p/wk for gas and making about $250 p/wk in
their paychecks and so, their paychecks would be
going to run their cars. So who could afford to give
up their job and who could afford to keep it? The
bottom line is, that workers would be spending 100%
of their paychecks on gas! So what's the point of
going to work at all?!

I know, I know, get another job, right? To the liberals,
everything is always peachy keen, except if they point
at something and then it's really bad and all the fault
of the conservatives! Always and every time!

But has it occurred to any of them, that there wouldn't
be any other jobs to get, since many businesses will
have closed down, due to the cost of operating, due to
the gas prices? And no, it's not just because workers
couldn't come to work. It's also because that business
had to raise their prices way up, due to the cost of
getting the materials and once workers have stopped
coming in, the place goes out of business and they
had no customers, or very few any more anyway!

So take a bus, right? Well, that doesn't help the business
any, but even if workers wanted to, guess what also started
going under and cutting routes? That's right, you got it!
The bus companies! So the bus isn't there to take now!

Now while you're sitting there thinking it couldn't possibly
be that bad and in your mind, I'm just some conservative
(even though I actually haven't said what I am yet), take
notes here, my friend, because:

1) The bus lines around here have already eliminated routes
and laid off people.

2) People have lost jobs due to gas prices.

3) People have had to quit their jobs, because after paying
for gas, their wasn't enough to pay for the car payment,
so they would have lost their job anyway!

And what of pizza delivery men? They still only, for example,
at Hungry Howies, get the same $1.00 per run for gas and
they make almost nothing in their check and have to depend
in the tips that they're getting far less of in amount because
of people saving more of their money for gas!

And what of cab drivers? I won't even go into that one!
But suffice it to say they have to pay for the gas in the cab!

And what of volunteer services, who ride people around,
like the American Cancer Society uses, to get people to
their doctor's appointments? Many volunteers are quitting
because of gas prices and the others are seriously cutting
down on the amount of miles they'll drive each week, to
help out patients who need their cancer treatments and
there are now people who cannot get to their doctors
anyway. In fact, one area here has no volunteers at all
in their area and so, there are patients who will end up
dying, when they may have been able to live with treatment,
but who can't get it now, because they have no money for
transportation and the buses don't go near their house and
a number of them are elderly.

And in fact, the ride service that my insurance company
provides for me to get to my pain management doctor,
has lost a lot of drivers (they have to use their own cars)
because of gas prices. And these are drivers who get
paid to do this job, but whom also still get the same
allowance from the company toward gas. The price
of gas went up almost 400% overall (time) from what
it was, but the gas allowance only went up about 20%!
So now you have people not able to get a ride on time,
or at all, so the ride service company that my insurance
company uses ends up having to schedule a cab for me
and that costs them a lot of money and so guess what?
If something doesn't give soon, that company will end up
going under!

And so the point is; What if Bush did it just for the oil?
Does that mean that he's trying to possess it? No!!!

Let's see... Iraq got it's butt kicked back a ways by us
and we didn't claim any oil fields (which were actually
Kuwaits). This war and we still didn't.

It was about keeping the price of oil down, because if we
didn't do that, we'd be crippled as a nation and would
actually go under as a nation, financially, which would
mean the end of this nation and it would all be due to
gas prices!

So when Bush went into Iraq, even if it was just to keep
them from stealing the property from Kuwait, you had
better say "Bravo!", because that battle, for that reason,
is what kept you going!

Liberals like to point at a war and blame the conservative,
without thinking it through. But let a liberal government
have to go to war and then, all of the sudden, war is right!

And frankly, I have no doubt in my mind that many liberals
were actually cheering for Iraq to kick the ass of the U.S.!
Because that's how liberals are, being too stupid to realize
that if Iraq had won, they'd have the oil and they weren't
smart enough to figure out who Iraq's first target for
financial death would be!

--

Christianity is the only army that shoots its own
wounded soldiers.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:13 am    Post subject: Re: unconditional love Reply with quote

"Thom Madura" <Tommadura@optonline.net> wrote in message
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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default wrote:
On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 19:39:40 -0400, "Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.edu
wrote:
"Claude Hopper" <boobooililililil@roadrunner.com> wrote in message
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Does not require religion.

Nothing "requires" religion. The function of religion is to define
standards of behaviour, and to encourage and motivate people to live
up >to
those ideals, ...not always successfully as atheists like to gloat.

I think you are wrong about that. I don't ever remember hearing that
in any "mission statement" during my own indoctrination.
Religion is to tell us how God wants us to behave.
Not gloating - pointing out the absurdity between stated religious
objectives and the actual product of those objectives.
Good behavior is likely to occur in spite of religion - not because of
it.

Frank can dimly recognise that, but he won't respond to it
since he wear blinders and never takes them off

Those are religious convictions to which you are entitled, but there
is no evidence, that superior behaviour is inborn.

Actually - not one person said that - except YOU.
Our behavior is taught - by other humans. There is no credible evidence
that a god has infiltrated the faculty of any earthly school. So - no god
was involved in the teaching.

There is no credible evidence that any "other human beings" are the

source of improved behaviour, but that you need to select and give credence
to some but not others. We chose Jesus Christ as our mentor. Do you mind? If
you find other examples of superior behaviour, then please advocate him or
her, rather than revile our choice.
Now please voice your objections to our choice in flame groups, rather
than our pristine Christian NGs that are dedicated to honour Jesus Christ
and promote Him, not to trash Him. Thanks.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:13 am    Post subject: Re: unconditional love Reply with quote

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Thom Madura wrote:

Gee - frank - YOU are the only one here who has posted that statement
about an invisible creature in the sky.

Not so. That invisible creature in the sky is the god Bob objects to,

and so do we, though he doesn't believe us, and thinks we are lying. That's
because Bob's religion demands that their devotees must be convinced, that
Christians believe in an invisible creature in the sky god, and Bob will not
be budged from that conviction.

Quote:
THere is no evidence for that - or anything else about a god - that is
true.

Right, but there are many different types of gods and some exist, others

don't.

Quote:
Humans are taught their standards of behavior by other humans - no god
involved. Of course - you cannot seriously claim your god was a
teacher in a school you attended.

Still - you learned bad things as well as good things - were you also
taught by satan too?

I doubt Frank was taught to lie,
his lying is simply an offshoot of wallowing in a belief
that cannot be verified, so his lies flow like water.

Beliefs don't need "verification", that's why they are beliefs rather

than certain knowledge. I believe my wife is beautiful and my kids are
intelligent. Only a total goof would question that and demand "evidence". Do
you aim to qualify for the goof designation Bob?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:13 am    Post subject: Re: EVIDENCE OF NO GODS Reply with quote

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Man creates gods in his own image;
and then spends the rest of his life
manipulating them to his heart's content.

You keep forgetting to state your summations, Bob. What you forgot to

conclude: ...That's why man shouldn't create gods, but be godless like me,
both believing nothing and believing in nothing.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:13 am    Post subject: Re: EVIDENCE OF NO GODS Reply with quote

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Pastor Frank wrote:


The word "God" is not a proper name, but a title of your point of
reference in regards to your standard of virtue and ideal of perfection,
against which you measure all behaviour. (Jesus in Matthew. 5:4Cool I.e.
In 2 Corinthians 4:4, Paul says that Satan is: "...the god (theos) of
this world", i.e. reality, to which atheists reference. And again, in
Philippians 3:19, Paul says there are people: "...whose God (theos) is
their belly", i.e. gratification, pleasure, to which Hedonists reference.
Also, Jesus speaks of mammon being a god or devil, representing the greed
for possessions, money and power, to which so many people reference.
(Mt:6:24:)
Jesus tells us in Jn:4:24 that His "GOD IS A SPIRIT", (i.e. akin to a
quality of attitude, like love and care [1Jn 4:8,16] which imbues a
person
and animates the flesh), and "they that worship him must worship him in
spirit and in truth."

What is god? Who is god? Where do I read about god?

"GOD" THE CHRISTIAN MEANING OF THE WORD ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE:

The word "God" is not a proper name, but a title of your point of
reference in regards to your standard of virtue and ideal of perfection,
against which you measure all behaviour. (Jesus in Matthew. 5:4Cool I.e.
In 2 Corinthians 4:4, Paul says that Satan is: "...the god (theos) of
this world", i.e. reality, to which atheists reference. And again, in
Philippians 3:19, Paul says there are people: "...whose God (theos) is their
belly", i.e. gratification, pleasure, to which Hedonists reference.
Also in Mt:6:24 Jesus speaks of Mammon being a god or devil,
representing the greed for possessions, money and power, to which so many
people reference.
Jesus tells us in Jn:4:24 that His "GOD IS A SPIRIT", (i.e. akin to a
quality of attitude, like love and care [1Jn 4:8,16] which imbues a person
and animates the flesh), and "they that worship him must worship him in
spirit and in truth."
Jesus explains further in John 14:6-10: Jesus saith unto him: "I am the
way, the truth, and the life; no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If
ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also, and from henceforth YE
KNOW HIM AND HAVE SEEN HIM." Philip saith unto him: "Lord, show us the
Father, and it sufficeth us." Jesus saith unto him: "Have I been so long
time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? HE THAT HAS SEEN ME
HATH SEEN THE FATHER; and how sayest thou then: Show us the Father?
Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words
that I speak unto you I speak not of myself, but the FATHER THAT DWELLETH IN
ME, HE DOETH THE WORKS."
Jesus in Jn:10:30: I and my Father are one.
Jesus in John 12:44-46`Then Jesus cried out and said, "He who believes
in me, believes not in me but in Him who sent me. And he who sees me sees
Him who sent Me. I have come as a light into the world, that whoever
believes in me should not abide in darkness."
Jesus in Lk 17:20-21: And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when
the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said: "The kingdom
of God cometh not with observation. Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo
there! For, behold, the kingdom of GOD IS WITHIN YOU."
1Jn:4:8: He that LOVETH not, knoweth not God; for GOD IS LOVE.
1Jn:4:16: And we have known and believed the LOVE that God hath to us.
GOD IS LOVE; and he that dwelleth in LOVE dwelleth in God, and God in him.
Jesus in Jn:13:34: A new commandment I give unto you, That ye LOVE one
another; as I have LOVED you, that ye also LOVE one another.
Jesus in Jn:13:35: By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples,
if ye have LOVE one to another.
Jesus in Jn:15:12-13: This is my commandment: That ye LOVE one another,
as I have LOVED you. Greater LOVE hath no man than this, that a man lay down
his life for his friends.
Acts:17:28: For in Him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain
also of your own poets have said, For we are also His offspring.
Proverbs 10:22 God is nearer than our own soul, closer than our most
secret thoughts.
Heb:1:8: But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and
ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:13 am    Post subject: Re: The world is of love Reply with quote

On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:28:39 -0400, James
<bireda@peoplepc.com> spake thusly:


Quote:
"Hannele.Tervola@gmail.com" <Hannele.Tervola@gmail.com

Re: The world is of love

It is the healthy parts that our lives are build upon, not the broken
parts. Toward health we feel love: the healthy in us feels love toward
the healthy in the world, toward the base of our functioning. We are
the healthy parts, and the world is the healthy parts. So love is our
essence and the essence of the world for us.

So a very healthy individual would observe correctly what to love and
what to admire as beautiful and so her understanding would correspond
to the structure of the world, the world really consist of health: of
love and beauty. A really healthy individual with a good
uncerstanding, one of a very loving kind, happy and moral.

Isn't this what Christianity talks about and many other religions too?
What separates women from men? And the moral ones from the evil ones?!

Hello,

Around 2000 years ago Jesus summed all that up at Mt 19:19,

"...Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself." (KJV)

Simple, to the point, and if followed by everyone, would end all wars
and wickedness directed at others. Even though most in the world,
including many of the churches who support their patriotic wars, do
not show love to all humans, Jesus genuine followers do, esp towards
each other. That is one defining characteristic of the true "one
faith" religion. Joh 13:35,

"By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one
another." (NIV)

Amen! :)

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May you live as long as you want to.
May you want to as long as you live.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:13 am    Post subject: Re: ???? DIVINE LAYOUT OF THE BOOKS OF THE BIBLE ???? Reply with quote

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God didn't lay out the books of the bible, the church you rejected laid
them
out, after deciding which scrolls would be included and which excluded.
Get
a clue.
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Yes ,the church did it but what they did was like God Yahweh wanted.

- Now you think you can speak for God? I don't think so. No one can know
what a God wants unless the God tells them. You are trying to start a new
religion and get followers. That isn't going to happen.

Why King James Bible does not have 61 books?

- You tell us.

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They won't attack Iran for the simple reason that it would give
the
incoming administration and congress an opportunity to appear
heroic,
and competent in wartime.

If we attack Iran, it will start the 3rd World war. Life as we
know it will come to an end. Imagine gas @ $30 a gallon. &
imagine having to wait 10 hours in line to fill up. Only 5 gallon
per vehicle, please!
Don't worry about $30 dollar gasoline. Iran will in desperation
flip a few dirty bombs into Israel, Israel will then nuke
them..which will bring all 22 Arab states into Persian/Israeli
war. America's Neocons will be ordered by AIPAC to participate.
The Jew propaganda mill and the Zionist Christians will wet their
pants at the prospect of the second coming and that Israel must be
kept Holy for such. While we logical folks will head for the
mountains in the vain hope that some of us will survive this
massive stupidity. We have *NO* business telling a sovereign
country what they can and can't do inside their own borders.
Everything we have done so far is an overt act of Aggression. We
need to either muzzle Israel or eliminate Israel with all hands
plus world wide supporters on board!

The only thing you can muzzle is dick, you dimwit.

That leave you out.

it do?
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"James Of Tucson" <james0tucson@gmail.com> wrote in message
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They won't attack Iran for the simple reason that it would give
the
incoming administration and congress an opportunity to appear
heroic,
and competent in wartime.


If we attack Iran, it will start the 3rd World war. Life as we
know it will come to an end. Imagine gas @ $30 a gallon. &
imagine having to wait 10 hours in line to fill up. Only 5 gallon
per vehicle, please!

Don't worry about $30 dollar gasoline. Iran will in desperation
flip a few dirty bombs into Israel, Israel will then nuke
them..which will bring all 22 Arab states into Persian/Israeli
war. America's Neocons will be ordered by AIPAC to participate.
The Jew propaganda mill and the Zionist Christians will wet their
pants at the prospect of the second coming and that Israel must be
kept Holy for such. While we logical folks will head for the
mountains in the vain hope that some of us will survive this
massive stupidity. We have *NO* business telling a sovereign
country what they can and can't do inside their own borders.
Everything we have done so far is an overt act of Aggression. We
need to either muzzle Israel or eliminate Israel with all hands
plus world wide supporters on board!

The only thing you can muzzle is dick, you dimwit.



Spoken like a true zionazi!

Fuck off, you goy scum.

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