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Liz
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 Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:30 am Post subject: Re: PZ Myers' Great Desecration |
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On Jul 24, 10:15 pm, Preventer of Work <not_t...@nospam.xxx> wrote:
| Quote: | Liz wrote:
On Jul 24, 2:32 pm, Bill Baker <wba...@postini.spamcon.org> wrote:
It is finished.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/07/the_great_desecration.php
Bill Donahue has already called for PZ's ouster from the university.
http://www.catholicleague.org/release.php?id=1465
“A formal complaint against Myers has already been made. What he did—
in both word and deed—constitutes a bias incident, as defined by the
University of Minnesota. The policy says that ‘Expressions of
disrespectful bias, hate, harassment or hostility against an
individual, group or their property because of the individual or
group’s actual or perceived race, color, creed, religion…can be forms
of discrimination. Expressions vary, and can be in the form of
language, words, signs, symbols, threats, or actions that could
potentially cause alarm, anger, fear, or resentment in others…even
when presented as a joke.’
“The University must now take action and apply the appropriate
sanction. We are contacting the president, Board of Regents and the
Equal Opportunity and Affirmative Action Office at the school, as well
as Minnesota’s governor and both houses of the state legislature; the
Catholic community in Minnesota is also being contacted. Moreover, we
are also contacting Muslim groups nationwide.
“It is important for Catholics to know that the University of
Minnesota will not tolerate the deliberate destruction of the
Eucharist by one of its faculty. Just as African Americans would not
tolerate the burning of a cross, and Jews would not tolerate the
display of swastikas, Catholics will not tolerate the desecration of
the Eucharist.”
But, it seems, Catholic will tolarate the burning of a desecrator.
I makes me wonder if PZ actually desecrated a consecrated host or
merely a pre-transubstantiated wafer bought from his local chuch
supply store. And who could tell the difference?
Liz #658
That catholic league noise sounds so very Islamist. A very small step
from rioting in the streets and burning things. Maybe they can wave
Kalashnikovs in the air too.
Time for some cartoons of the pope with a cracker in his headgear.
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I think it would be funnier if the cartoon were of Bill Donahue with
steam coming out of his ears -- sort of like that electrocuted pickle.
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Liz
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:32 am Post subject: Re: PZ Myers' Great Desecration |
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On Jul 24, 11:12 pm, Spartakus <sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Liz <ehu...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
Bill Baker <wba...@postini.spamcon.org> wrote:
It is finished.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/07/the_great_desecration.php
Bill Donahue has already called for PZ's ouster from the university.
http://www.catholicleague.org/release.php?id=1465
“A formal complaint against Myers has already been made. What he did—
in both word and deed—constitutes a bias incident, as defined by the
University of Minnesota.
The U of M does indeed have a policy against "bias behavior" (for lack
of a better term), but since Professor Myers performed his act of
"desecration" off university property and on his own time, there's not
much they can do about it.
Isn't it IRONIC and AMUSING that Bill Donohue hides behind Political
Correctness when it suits him?
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I have never found Mr. Donahue amusing. I imagine he prays every
night that he will be able to restore the Inquisition.
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Bill Baker
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:01 pm Post subject: Re: PZ Myers' Great Desecration |
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On Thursday 24 July 2008 11:30 pm Daniel Kolle <Daniel.Kolle@gmail.com>
wrote in message news:<l5ii849vrfs4vtl8os0bd016487cjqbggm@4ax.com>...
| Quote: | On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:32:41 -0400, Bill Baker
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote:
It is finished.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/07/the_great_desecration.php
Great. Wonderful. Now can we shut the fuck up about it?
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Only if the Catholics will.
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lide> next person to talk after his line will be kicked 
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johac
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:03 pm Post subject: Re: PZ Myers' Great Desecration |
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In article <FcGdnfHnSalRVxXVnZ2dnUVZ_q3inZ2d@earthlink.com>,
Bill Baker <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote:
| Quote: | It is finished.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/07/the_great_desecration.php
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As we learned in Catholic School:
"Deo Gratias."
Well done PZ!
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Bill Baker
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:05 pm Post subject: Re: PZ Myers' Great Desecration |
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On Thursday 24 July 2008 09:41 pm Liz <ehuth1@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
news:<f92b53ef-6f2a-48b9-84af-43ce58a5e9f1@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com>...
| Quote: | On Jul 24, 2:32Â pm, Bill Baker <wba...@postini.spamcon.org> wrote:
It is finished.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/07/the_great_desecration.php
Bill Donahue has already called for PZ's ouster from the university.
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Gee, what a surprise. Think we should march up and down his street carrying
desecrated hosts for a few days? That would probably make his head
explode.
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Bill Baker
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:06 pm Post subject: Re: PZ Myers' Great Desecration |
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On Thursday 24 July 2008 06:57 pm MarkA <toor@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:<pan.2008.07.24.22.57.15.852033@nowhere.com>...
| Quote: | On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:32:41 -0400, Bill Baker wrote:
It is finished.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/07/the_great_desecration.php
Nice essay. And, a very good quote for a future sig:
God is not great, Jesus is not your lord, you are not disciples of any
charismatic prophet. You are all human beings who must make your way
through your life by thinking and learning, and you have the job of
advancing humanities' knowledge by winnowing out the errors of past
generations and finding deeper understanding of reality. You will not find
wisdom in rituals and sacraments and dogma, which build only
self-satisfied ignorance, but you can find truth by looking at your world
with fresh eyes and a questioning mind.
PZ Myers
24JUL08
PZ Myers, a biologist of some note.
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Is that a nomination for AQOTM?
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"So community colleges are accessible, they're available, they're
affordable, and their curriculums don't get stuck. In other words, if
there's a need for a certain kind of worker, I presume your curriculums
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Daniel Kolle
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:11 pm Post subject: Re: PZ Myers' Great Desecration |
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:01:30 -0400, Bill Baker
<wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote:
| Quote: | On Thursday 24 July 2008 11:30 pm Daniel Kolle <Daniel.Kolle@gmail.com
wrote in message news:<l5ii849vrfs4vtl8os0bd016487cjqbggm@4ax.com>...
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:32:41 -0400, Bill Baker
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote:
It is finished.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/07/the_great_desecration.php
Great. Wonderful. Now can we shut the fuck up about it?
Only if the Catholics will.
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How childish. "I will if you will!" This whole bunch of nonsense
certainly shows us that a cracker is not, in fact, just a fucking
cracker.
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Syd M.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: PZ Myers' Great Desecration |
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On Jul 25, 7:32 am, Liz <ehu...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Jul 24, 11:12 pm, Spartakus <sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote:
Liz <ehu...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
Bill Baker <wba...@postini.spamcon.org> wrote:
It is finished.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/07/the_great_desecration.php
Bill Donahue has already called for PZ's ouster from the university.
http://www.catholicleague.org/release.php?id=1465
“A formal complaint against Myers has already been made. What he did—
in both word and deed—constitutes a bias incident, as defined by the
University of Minnesota.
The U of M does indeed have a policy against "bias behavior" (for lack
of a better term), but since Professor Myers performed his act of
"desecration" off university property and on his own time, there's not
much they can do about it.
Isn't it IRONIC and AMUSING that Bill Donohue hides behind Political
Correctness when it suits him?
I have never found Mr. Donahue amusing. I imagine he prays every
night that he will be able to restore the Inquisition.
Liz #658
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I would not doubt it, the amount of noise he makes.
PDW |
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MarkA
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:36 pm Post subject: Re: PZ Myers' Great Desecration |
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:06:46 -0400, Bill Baker wrote:
| Quote: | On Thursday 24 July 2008 06:57 pm MarkA <toor@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:<pan.2008.07.24.22.57.15.852033@nowhere.com>...
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:32:41 -0400, Bill Baker wrote:
It is finished.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/07/the_great_desecration.php
Nice essay. And, a very good quote for a future sig:
God is not great, Jesus is not your lord, you are not disciples of any
charismatic prophet. You are all human beings who must make your way
through your life by thinking and learning, and you have the job of
advancing humanities' knowledge by winnowing out the errors of past
generations and finding deeper understanding of reality. You will not find
wisdom in rituals and sacraments and dogma, which build only
self-satisfied ignorance, but you can find truth by looking at your world
with fresh eyes and a questioning mind.
PZ Myers
24JUL08
PZ Myers, a biologist of some note.
Is that a nomination for AQOTM?
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Doesn't he have to post it himself to count?
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Keeper of Things Put There Only Just The Night Before
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Syd M.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: PZ Myers' Great Desecration |
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On Jul 25, 7:30 am, Liz <ehu...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Jul 24, 10:15 pm, Preventer of Work <not_t...@nospam.xxx> wrote:
Liz wrote:
On Jul 24, 2:32 pm, Bill Baker <wba...@postini.spamcon.org> wrote:
It is finished.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/07/the_great_desecration.php
Bill Donahue has already called for PZ's ouster from the university.
http://www.catholicleague.org/release.php?id=1465
“A formal complaint against Myers has already been made. What he did—
in both word and deed—constitutes a bias incident, as defined by the
University of Minnesota. The policy says that ‘Expressions of
disrespectful bias, hate, harassment or hostility against an
individual, group or their property because of the individual or
group’s actual or perceived race, color, creed, religion…can be forms
of discrimination. Expressions vary, and can be in the form of
language, words, signs, symbols, threats, or actions that could
potentially cause alarm, anger, fear, or resentment in others…even
when presented as a joke.’
“The University must now take action and apply the appropriate
sanction. We are contacting the president, Board of Regents and the
Equal Opportunity and Affirmative Action Office at the school, as well
as Minnesota’s governor and both houses of the state legislature; the
Catholic community in Minnesota is also being contacted. Moreover, we
are also contacting Muslim groups nationwide.
“It is important for Catholics to know that the University of
Minnesota will not tolerate the deliberate destruction of the
Eucharist by one of its faculty. Just as African Americans would not
tolerate the burning of a cross, and Jews would not tolerate the
display of swastikas, Catholics will not tolerate the desecration of
the Eucharist.”
But, it seems, Catholic will tolarate the burning of a desecrator.
I makes me wonder if PZ actually desecrated a consecrated host or
merely a pre-transubstantiated wafer bought from his local chuch
supply store. And who could tell the difference?
Liz #658
That catholic league noise sounds so very Islamist. A very small step
from rioting in the streets and burning things. Maybe they can wave
Kalashnikovs in the air too.
Time for some cartoons of the pope with a cracker in his headgear.
I think it would be funnier if the cartoon were of Bill Donahue with
steam coming out of his ears -- sort of like that electrocuted pickle.
Liz #658
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Someone explain to me the differance between the Muslims going ape
shit over some cartoons and the Cathlicks going ape shit over a
cracker? I just don't get it.
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Bill Baker
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:28 am Post subject: Re: PZ Myers' Great Desecration |
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On Friday 25 July 2008 07:36 am MarkA <toor@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:<pan.2008.07.25.11.36.40.381695@nowhere.com>...
| Quote: | On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:06:46 -0400, Bill Baker wrote:
On Thursday 24 July 2008 06:57 pm MarkA <toor@nowhere.com> wrote in
message news:<pan.2008.07.24.22.57.15.852033@nowhere.com>...
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:32:41 -0400, Bill Baker wrote:
It is finished.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/07/the_great_desecration.php
Nice essay. And, a very good quote for a future sig:
God is not great, Jesus is not your lord, you are not disciples of any
charismatic prophet. You are all human beings who must make your way
through your life by thinking and learning, and you have the job of
advancing humanities' knowledge by winnowing out the errors of past
generations and finding deeper understanding of reality. You will not
find wisdom in rituals and sacraments and dogma, which build only
self-satisfied ignorance, but you can find truth by looking at your
world with fresh eyes and a questioning mind.
PZ Myers
24JUL08
PZ Myers, a biologist of some note.
Is that a nomination for AQOTM?
Doesn't he have to post it himself to count?
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He did post it on his blog. Or did you mean here in alt.atheism? If so, I
think I've seen other AQOTMs that weren't posted here.
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"I know something about being a government. And you've got a good one."
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Bill Baker
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:32 am Post subject: Re: PZ Myers' Great Desecration |
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On Friday 25 July 2008 04:11 am Daniel Kolle <Daniel.Kolle@gmail.com> wrote
in message news:<ai2j84dbebna2r9pvrc3ahps48s4bav9ad@4ax.com>...
| Quote: | On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:01:30 -0400, Bill Baker
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote:
On Thursday 24 July 2008 11:30 pm Daniel Kolle <Daniel.Kolle@gmail.com
wrote in message news:<l5ii849vrfs4vtl8os0bd016487cjqbggm@4ax.com>...
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:32:41 -0400, Bill Baker
wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote:
It is finished.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/07/the_great_desecration.php
Great. Wonderful. Now can we shut the fuck up about it?
Only if the Catholics will.
How childish. "I will if you will!" This whole bunch of nonsense
certainly shows us that a cracker is not, in fact, just a fucking
cracker.
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If you don't like it, ignore it.
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"It's one thing about insurance, that's a Washington term."
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Bob Officer
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:57:17 -0400, in alt.abortion, MarkA
<toor@nowhere.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:32:41 -0400, Bill Baker wrote:
It is finished.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/07/the_great_desecration.php
Nice essay. And, a very good quote for a future sig:
God is not great, Jesus is not your lord, you are not disciples of any
charismatic prophet. You are all human beings who must make your way
through your life by thinking and learning, and you have the job of
advancing humanities' knowledge by winnowing out the errors of past
generations and finding deeper understanding of reality. You will not find
wisdom in rituals and sacraments and dogma, which build only
self-satisfied ignorance, but you can find truth by looking at your world
with fresh eyes and a questioning mind.
PZ Myers
24JUL08
PZ Myers, a biologist of some note.
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he is also a kook.
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Bob Officer
""Finally, it would be very mean-spirited of anyone to insist that because
I don't believe in any gods that my kids aren't allowed to participate in
any festivities. They quite enjoy the part where you build a wicker man
in the backyard and incinerate one of the local woo-woos. And I appreciate
the way the screams scare all the bible-thumpers and salesman away from
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Skeeve
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 4:19 am Post subject: Re: PZ Myers' Great Desecration |
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"Bob Officer" <bobofficers@127.0.0.7> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:57:17 -0400, in alt.abortion, MarkA
toor@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:32:41 -0400, Bill Baker wrote:
It is finished.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/07/the_great_desecration.php
Nice essay. And, a very good quote for a future sig:
God is not great, Jesus is not your lord, you are not disciples of any
charismatic prophet. You are all human beings who must make your way
through your life by thinking and learning, and you have the job of
advancing humanities' knowledge by winnowing out the errors of past
generations and finding deeper understanding of reality. You will not find
wisdom in rituals and sacraments and dogma, which build only
self-satisfied ignorance, but you can find truth by looking at your world
with fresh eyes and a questioning mind.
PZ Myers
24JUL08
PZ Myers, a biologist of some note.
he is also a kook.
--
Bob Officer
""Finally, it would be very mean-spirited of anyone to insist that because
I don't believe in any gods that my kids aren't allowed to participate in
any festivities. They quite enjoy the part where you build a wicker man
in the backyard and incinerate one of the local woo-woos. And I appreciate
the way the screams scare all the bible-thumpers and salesman away from
my door." -PZ Myers, a fine, upstanding bigot.
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Not a big fan of satire I see.
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Skeeve
AA# 2188
Lawton, OK, USA
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"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and
carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis
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Daniel Kolle
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 4:54 am Post subject: Re: PZ Myers' Great Desecration |
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 04:28:37 -0700 (PDT), Liz <ehuth1@neo.rr.com>
wrote:
| Quote: | On Jul 24, 11:30 pm, Daniel Kolle <Daniel.Ko...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:32:41 -0400, Bill Baker
wba...@postini.spamcon.org> wrote:
It is finished.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/07/the_great_desecration.php
Great. Wonderful. Now can we shut the fuck up about it?
The problem didn't go away so I don't think shutting the fuck up about
it would be the proper action. The problem is that certain people
feel entited by their religion to make society as a whole conform to
their religious tenets.
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My duh meter just exploded. This is not news to anyone.
| Quote: | It doesn't matter whether the question
revolves around the disrespect of a wafer, cartoons in the newspaper,
the use of birth control, or the teaching of evolution in public
schools. All of these violate the demands of someone's god and create
furors even though there is no common sense reason to respect a bit of
wheat flour and water, refrain from printing cartoons, avoid using
birth control, or desist teaching science in a science class.
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Shit, I lost another duh meter.
| Quote: | Rationality precludes me from taking any religious mythology
seriously, and to act as though a wafer was sacred when I believe it
is not is to give these mythologies a power they do not have and do
not deserve.
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Yeah.
| Quote: | Bill Donahue should not have the power to say who should or should not
teach or attend a public university
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He should not, and does not.
| Quote: | Bill Donahue should not have the
power to prescribe or proscribe behavior for those who do not believe
in the same myth he does.
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He should not, and does not.
| Quote: | As PZ said, nothing is sacred.
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Indeed, although we really do not need PZ to remind us of this.
| Quote: | And no, I will not shut the fuck up about it.
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I seem to have struck a nerve.
| Quote: | If it bothers you, I suggest you quit reading the threads.
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I admit to having a good chuckle when I saw the photo of the cracker
amongst the Qur'an, The God Delusion, banana peel, and coffee rounds,
however.
--
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