marques de sade Guest
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:21 pm Post subject: Re: Belief's Role in Perception/Learning (was Re: Tabula Ras |
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On 11 Jun 2008 07:06:23 GMT, nocTifer <yronwode.com@nagasiva>
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| Quote: | Joseph Littleshoes <jpstifel@isp.com>:
marques de sade wrote:
dh@. wrote:
not somehow, by believing in jesus and having him be judged in
your place -- that's the grandness of god's love for you. (this is
the christian claim, not mine...)
forgiveness unending.
you tell a pedo that just believe in jesus and he's going to
heaven, guess what that encourages...
that is the criticism of the RC forgiveness machine, yes,
that it encourages a lack of responsibility because at
the end of every day one may once again be 'cleansed'.
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well, in protestanism it should be an ongoing thing... you are
either in a state of grace or not, and most of them think they are
''in'' grace... and all their actions being guided by the holy
spirit... but satan lurks in the shadows... watch out... that's
why you have people like dh concentrate a large amount of time
thinking about 'the beast' and 'satan'... without that dark anti-
element, their philosophy would lack action and adventure. what's
the point of doing something that's easy. it has to be hard! it
has to be a naked sexy woman so that you cannot fail to notice and
so now you need that forgiveness... now it's too late... gotcha!!
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...typical newsgroup tabloid, knee jerk reasoning.
conventional criticism of forgiveness mechanisms in
Christian religion allowing for amorality in its
participants.
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the more they sin, the more grace abounds...
octinomos
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nocTifer
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