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 Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:16 pm Post subject: Reflect, human being that you are |
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"Reflect, human being that you are, on the great dignity you enjoy, and
the degree of purity it would be right for you to exhibit, at least on
those occasions when you become a temple in your own right. Now, how
would you exhibit this purity? If you were to expel every evil thought,
if you were to deny entry of the devil's workings to the precincts of
your mind, if you continue to embellish your mind as though in the holy
sanctuary. After all, if in the Jewish Temple not every place was open
to everyone, but there were many and varied divisions - one place for
proselytes, one for those who were Jews from the beginning, one for the
priests, one for the high priest alone, and then not at all times but
once a year - consider the degree of holiness required of the one
receiving far greater symbols than the holy of holies received at that
time. It is not the Cherubim that you have, but the very Lord of the
Cherubim dwelling within, not jar of manna, or tablets of stone, or
Aaron's rod, but"
St. John Chrysostom.
"Little children, keep yourselves from idols." 1 John 5:21
Draw nigh unto God and He will draw nigh unto you. |
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bob young
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:18 am Post subject: Re: Reflect, human being that you are |
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holyfool@wondering.com wrote:
| Quote: | "Reflect, human being that you are, on the great dignity you enjoy, and
the degree of purity it would be right for you to exhibit, at least on
those occasions when you become a temple in your own right.
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I find the above statement unintelligible
| Quote: | Now, how
would you exhibit this purity? If you were to expel every evil thought,
if you were to deny entry of the devil's workings to the precincts of
your mind, if you continue to embellish your mind as though in the holy
sanctuary.
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Every living person at some time or other has an evil thought
| Quote: | After all, if in the Jewish Temple not every place was open
to everyone, but there were many and varied divisions - one place for
proselytes, one for those who were Jews from the beginning, one for the
priests, one for the high priest alone, and then not at all times but
once a year - consider the degree of holiness required of the one
receiving far greater symbols than the holy of holies received at that
time.
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Yes indeed, humans create their religions and their gods
and they never forget to include the usual human pecking order,
just like in their armies, should any more proof be needed
| Quote: | It is not the Cherubim that you have, but the very Lord of the
Cherubim dwelling within, not jar of manna, or tablets of stone, or
Aaron's rod, but"
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Eeeerm yes - pure mythology and saccharine scribblings.
But what value does it have in this day and age !?
Bob
Humanist, atheist, realist, sentimentalist Brit.
Member of S.M.A.S.H.
(Sarcastic Middle-aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor)
Man creates his gods in his own image;
and then spends the rest of his life
manipulating them to his heart's content
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St. John Chrysostom.
"Little children, keep yourselves from idols." 1 John 5:21
Draw nigh unto God and He will draw nigh unto you. |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:44 am Post subject: Re: Reflect, human being that you are |
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| Quote: | "Reflect, human being that you are, on the great dignity you enjoy,
and
the degree of purity it would be right for you to exhibit, at least on
those occasions when you become a temple in your own right.
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"I find the above statement unintelligible"
I thought you said you were once christian? If so you were poorly
educated in some basic teachings of the church. In scripture we are
described as the temple of the Holy Spirit. Scripture also declares
that to the non-believer some things will be beyond understanding.
| Quote: | After all, if in the Jewish Temple not every place was open to
everyone, but there were many and varied divisions - one place for
proselytes, one for those who were Jews from the beginning, one for
the
priests, one for the high priest alone, and then not at all times but
once a year - consider the degree of holiness required of the one
receiving far greater symbols than the holy of holies received at that
time.
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"Yes indeed, humans create their religions and their gods and they never
forget to include the usual human pecking order, just like in their
armies, should any more proof be needed"
You have it backwards, as scripture declares, "to whom much is given
much is required".
"Eeeerm yes - pure mythology and saccharine scribblings. But what value
does it have in this day and age !?"
For those who do not believe nothing. |
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bob young
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:52 pm Post subject: Re: Reflect, human being that you are |
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holyfool@wondering.com wrote:
| Quote: | "Reflect, human being that you are, on the great dignity you enjoy,
and
the degree of purity it would be right for you to exhibit, at least on
those occasions when you become a temple in your own right.
"I find the above statement unintelligible"
I thought you said you were once christian? If so you were poorly
educated in some basic teachings of the church. In scripture we are
described as the temple of the Holy Spirit.
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It was a very long time ago hf, more than fifty years.
I have traveled and learned a lot since then.
| Quote: | Scripture also declares
that to the non-believer some things will be beyond understanding.
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Well they would have to say that; wouldn't they ?
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After all, if in the Jewish Temple not every place was open to
everyone, but there were many and varied divisions - one place for
proselytes, one for those who were Jews from the beginning, one for
the
priests, one for the high priest alone, and then not at all times but
once a year - consider the degree of holiness required of the one
receiving far greater symbols than the holy of holies received at that
time.
"Yes indeed, humans create their religions and their gods and they never
forget to include the usual human pecking order, just like in their
armies, should any more proof be needed"
You have it backwards, as scripture declares, "to whom much is given
much is required".
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You have it inside out, the belief comes first
and then the scriptures to support the belief. Pointless isn't it ?
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"Eeeerm yes - pure mythology and saccharine scribblings. But what value
does it have in this day and age !?"
For those who do not believe nothing.
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Well I only believe what can be proven
Have a good week
Bob
Humanist, atheist, realist, sentimentalist Brit.
Member of S.M.A.S.H.
(Sarcastic Middle-aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor)
Man creates his gods in his own image;
and then spends the rest of his life
manipulating them to his heart's content |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:23 pm Post subject: Re: Reflect, human being that you are |
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| Quote: | "I find the above statement unintelligible"
I thought you said you were once christian? If so you were poorly
educated in some basic teachings of the church. In scripture we are
described as the temple of the Holy Spirit.
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"It was a very long time ago hf, more than fifty years.
I have traveled and learned a lot since then."
For some travel is broadening, for others it does not improve.
| Quote: | Scripture also declares
that to the non-believer some things will be beyond understanding.
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"Well they would have to say that; wouldn't they ?"
No.
| Quote: | "Yes indeed, humans create their religions and their gods and they never
forget to include the usual human pecking order, just like in their
armies, should any more proof be needed"
You have it backwards, as scripture declares, "to whom much is given
much is required".
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"You have it inside out, the belief comes first
and then the scriptures to support the belief. Pointless isn't it ?"
No, the revelation comes first, belief follows.
| Quote: | "Eeeerm yes - pure mythology and saccharine scribblings. But what value
does it have in this day and age !?"
For those who do not believe nothing.
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"Well I only believe what can be proven"
Then by that exact standard you have demonstrated repeatedly your belief is
groundless.
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"Have a good week
Like wise Bob. |
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