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Richard Dutcher leaves the Mormon church and a genre
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:34 pm    Post subject: Richard Dutcher leaves the Mormon church and a genre Reply with quote

RICHARD DUTCHER didn't set out to become a filmmaking messiah. Before
he became known as "the father of modern Latter-day Saint cinema,"
Dutcher was simply a writer-director-actor hustling for movie work in
late '90s Los Angeles. That is, until the devout Mormon took stock of
an underserved filmgoing community -- his own....

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-mormon19-2008aug19,0,7739184.story
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Richard Dutcher leaves the Mormon church and a genre Reply with quote

"john p" wrote:
Quote:
RICHARD DUTCHER didn't set out to become a filmmaking messiah. Before
he became known as "the father of modern Latter-day Saint cinema,"
Dutcher was simply a writer-director-actor hustling for movie work in
late '90s Los Angeles. That is, until the devout Mormon took stock of
an underserved filmgoing community -- his own....

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-mormon19-2008aug19,0,7739184.story


"Ironically, it’s the films that allowed me to progress spiritually to
the point I left Mormonism."

"One day in prayer, all by myself, I asked myself the question: What if
it's all not true?" Dutcher recalled. "It was an earth-shaking moment of
spiritual terror, such a profound experience. It was such a sense of
loss. I felt my faith leaving me and never coming back."

-- Richard Dutcher
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\"john p\"
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Richard Dutcher leaves the Mormon church and a genre Reply with quote

On Aug 19, 6:18 am, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
Quote:
"john p" wrote:
RICHARD DUTCHER didn't set out to become a filmmaking messiah. Before
he became known as "the father of modern Latter-day Saint cinema,"
Dutcher was simply a writer-director-actor hustling for movie work in
late '90s Los Angeles. That is, until the devout Mormon took stock of
an underserved filmgoing community -- his own....

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-mormon19-2008aug19,0,...

"Ironically, it’s the films that allowed me to progress spiritually to
the point I left Mormonism."

"One day in prayer, all by myself, I asked myself the question: What if
it's all not true?" Dutcher recalled. "It was an earth-shaking moment of
spiritual terror, such a profound experience. It was such a sense of
loss. I felt my faith leaving me and never coming back."

-- Richard Dutcher

His a talented filmmaker. I've enjoyed his films while I was a
mormon, and after. It will be interesting to see what he makes now
that he is off the kool-aid.
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•R. L. Measures
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Richard Dutcher leaves the Mormon church and a genre Reply with quote

In article <ioCdnVJnFIrTSzfVnZ2dnUVZ_qLinZ2d@giganews.com>, John Manning
<jrobertm@terra.com.br> wrote:

Quote:
"john p" wrote:
RICHARD DUTCHER didn't set out to become a filmmaking messiah. Before
he became known as "the father of modern Latter-day Saint cinema,"
Dutcher was simply a writer-director-actor hustling for movie work in
late '90s Los Angeles. That is, until the devout Mormon took stock of
an underserved filmgoing community -- his own....


http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-mormon19-2008aug19,0,7739184.story


"Ironically, it’s the films that allowed me to progress spiritually to
the point I left Mormonism."

"One day in prayer, all by myself, I asked myself the question: What if
it's all not true?" Dutcher recalled. "It was an earth-shaking moment of
spiritual terror, such a profound experience. It was such a sense of
loss. I felt my faith leaving me and never coming back."

-- Richard Dutcher

• Apparently it was that "burning in the bosom" John. chortle

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•R. L. Measures
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Richard Dutcher leaves the Mormon church and a genre Reply with quote

In article
<ecdb9408-2fba-49de-b249-e198e112608b@v26g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
"\"john p\"" <john.phile@gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Aug 19, 6:18=A0am, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
"john p" wrote:
RICHARD DUTCHER didn't set out to become a filmmaking messiah. Before
he became known as "the father of modern Latter-day Saint cinema,"
Dutcher was simply a writer-director-actor hustling for movie work in
late '90s Los Angeles. That is, until the devout Mormon took stock of
an underserved filmgoing community -- his own....

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-mormon19-2008aug19,0,...

"Ironically, it=92s the films that allowed me to progress spiritually to
the point I left Mormonism."

"One day in prayer, all by myself, I asked myself the question: What if
it's all not true?" Dutcher recalled. "It was an earth-shaking moment of
spiritual terror, such a profound experience. It was such a sense of
loss. I felt my faith leaving me and never coming back."

-- Richard Dutcher

His a talented filmmaker. I've enjoyed his films while I was a
mormon, and after. It will be interesting to see what he makes now
that he is off the kool-aid.

** I'd like to see a film about Fannie Alger and the Prophet, including
the in flagrante delicto scene in the Smith's barn.

--
R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
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Just James
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Richard Dutcher leaves the Mormon church and a genre Reply with quote

•R. L. Measures wrote:
Quote:
In article
ecdb9408-2fba-49de-b249-e198e112608b@v26g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
"\"john p\"" <john.phile@gmail.com> wrote:

On Aug 19, 6:18=A0am, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
"john p" wrote:
RICHARD DUTCHER didn't set out to become a filmmaking messiah. Before
he became known as "the father of modern Latter-day Saint cinema,"
Dutcher was simply a writer-director-actor hustling for movie work in
late '90s Los Angeles. That is, until the devout Mormon took stock of
an underserved filmgoing community -- his own....
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-mormon19-2008aug19,0,...
"Ironically, it=92s the films that allowed me to progress spiritually to
the point I left Mormonism."

"One day in prayer, all by myself, I asked myself the question: What if
it's all not true?" Dutcher recalled. "It was an earth-shaking moment of
spiritual terror, such a profound experience. It was such a sense of
loss. I felt my faith leaving me and never coming back."

-- Richard Dutcher
His a talented filmmaker. I've enjoyed his films while I was a
mormon, and after. It will be interesting to see what he makes now
that he is off the kool-aid.

** I'd like to see a film about Fannie Alger and the Prophet, including
the in flagrante delicto scene in the Smith's barn.


That would be great. They've already done the gratuitous MMM film, so
let's get to the juicy stuff. As a romance film it might do well.

--
Just James

"The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the
first and only object of good government." ~ Thomas Jefferson
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Duwaynea Anderson
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Richard Dutcher leaves the Mormon church and a genre Reply with quote

On Aug 20, 6:00 am, Just James <post_mas...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Quote:
•R. L. Measures wrote:
In article
ecdb9408-2fba-49de-b249-e198e1126...@v26g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
"\"john p\"" <john.ph...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Aug 19, 6:18=A0am, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
"john p" wrote:
RICHARD DUTCHER didn't set out to become a filmmaking messiah. Before
he became known as "the father of modern Latter-day Saint cinema,"
Dutcher was simply a writer-director-actor hustling for movie work in
late '90s Los Angeles. That is, until the devout Mormon took stock of
an underserved filmgoing community -- his own....
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-mormon19-2008aug19,0,....
"Ironically, it=92s the films that allowed me to progress spiritually to
the point I left Mormonism."

"One day in prayer, all by myself, I asked myself the question: What if
it's all not true?" Dutcher recalled. "It was an earth-shaking moment of
spiritual terror, such a profound experience. It was such a sense of
loss. I felt my faith leaving me and never coming back."

-- Richard Dutcher
His a talented filmmaker.  I've enjoyed his films while I was a
mormon, and after.  It will be interesting to see what he makes now
that he is off the kool-aid.

**  I'd like to see a film about Fannie Alger and the Prophet, including
the in flagrante delicto scene in the Smith's barn.

That would be great.  They've already done the gratuitous MMM film, so
let's get to the juicy stuff.  As a romance film it might do well.


I've got an idea. How about an "Oceans Eleven" style film where a
life-long Mormon finally comes to his senses and realizes that he's
been fleeced for the past several decades, so he decides to take it
back (with interest) by scamming the Church?

Come to think of it, that might make a good book, too.

Duwayne Anderson
Author of "Farewell to Eden: Coming to terms with Mormonism and
science"
American Quarter Horse: The ultimate all-terrain vehicle
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•R. L. Measures
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:37 am    Post subject: Re: Richard Dutcher leaves the Mormon church and a genre Reply with quote

In article <tyUqk.4674$zv7.4427@flpi143.ffdc.sbc.com>, Just James
<post_master@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Quote:
•R. L. Measures wrote:
In article
ecdb9408-2fba-49de-b249-e198e112608b@v26g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
"\"john p\"" <john.phile@gmail.com> wrote:

On Aug 19, 6:18=A0am, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
"john p" wrote:
RICHARD DUTCHER didn't set out to become a filmmaking messiah. Before
he became known as "the father of modern Latter-day Saint cinema,"
Dutcher was simply a writer-director-actor hustling for movie work in
late '90s Los Angeles. That is, until the devout Mormon took stock of
an underserved filmgoing community -- his own....
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-mormon19-2008aug19,0,...
"Ironically, it=92s the films that allowed me to progress spiritually to
the point I left Mormonism."

"One day in prayer, all by myself, I asked myself the question: What if
it's all not true?" Dutcher recalled. "It was an earth-shaking moment of
spiritual terror, such a profound experience. It was such a sense of
loss. I felt my faith leaving me and never coming back."

-- Richard Dutcher
His a talented filmmaker. I've enjoyed his films while I was a
mormon, and after. It will be interesting to see what he makes now
that he is off the kool-aid.

** I'd like to see a film about Fannie Alger and the Prophet, including
the in flagrante delicto scene in the Smith's barn.


That would be great. They've already done the gratuitous MMM film, so
let's get to the juicy stuff. As a romance film it might do well.

• Agreed. but probably not in Utah.

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R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
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•R. L. Measures
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:27 am    Post subject: Re: Richard Dutcher leaves the Mormon church and a genre Reply with quote

In article
<80cab43a-8d74-4d00-b21c-44752eeb2cbc@a8g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Duwaynea Anderson <DuwayneAnderson@gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Aug 20, 6:00=A0am, Just James <post_mas...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
=95R. L. Measures wrote:
In article
ecdb9408-2fba-49de-b249-e198e1126...@v26g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
"\"john p\"" <john.ph...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Aug 19, 6:18=3DA0am, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:
"john p" wrote:
RICHARD DUTCHER didn't set out to become a filmmaking messiah. Befor=
e
he became known as "the father of modern Latter-day Saint cinema,"
Dutcher was simply a writer-director-actor hustling for movie work i=
n
late '90s Los Angeles. That is, until the devout Mormon took stock o=
f
an underserved filmgoing community -- his own....
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-mormon19-2008aug19,0,=
...
"Ironically, it=3D92s the films that allowed me to progress spiritual=
ly to
the point I left Mormonism."

"One day in prayer, all by myself, I asked myself the question: What =
if
it's all not true?" Dutcher recalled. "It was an earth-shaking moment=
of
spiritual terror, such a profound experience. It was such a sense of
loss. I felt my faith leaving me and never coming back."

-- Richard Dutcher
His a talented filmmaker. =A0I've enjoyed his films while I was a
mormon, and after. =A0It will be interesting to see what he makes now
that he is off the kool-aid.

** =A0I'd like to see a film about Fannie Alger and the Prophet, includ=
ing
the in flagrante delicto scene in the Smith's barn.

That would be great. =A0They've already done the gratuitous MMM film, so
let's get to the juicy stuff. =A0As a romance film it might do well.


I've got an idea. How about an "Oceans Eleven" style film where a
life-long Mormon finally comes to his senses and realizes that he's
been fleeced for the past several decades, so he decides to take it
back (with interest) by scamming the Church?

** Sounds like Mark Hofmann case Duwayne. $944,000 was pretty good take.


--
R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
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