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 Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:32 am Post subject: Robot with a biological brain |
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Here's a question for all you theologians: will an autonomous robot
using cultured brain cells have a soul?
The University of Reading in the UK have a primitive biological brain
they developed. This is just a beginning, but you can expect it to
get more complex in the future.
http://www.reading.ac.uk/about/newsandevents/releases/PR16530.asp
A multidisciplinary team at the University of Reading has developed a
robot which is controlled by a biological brain formed from cultured
neurons. This cutting edge research is the first step to examine how
memories manifest themselves in the brain, and how a brain stores
specific pieces of data. The key aim is that eventually this will lead
to a better understanding of development and of diseases and disorders
which affect the brain such as Alzheimer's Disease, Parkinson's
Disease, stroke and brain injury.
The robot's biological brain is made up of cultured neurons which are
placed onto a multi electrode array (MEA). The MEA is a dish with
approximately 60 electrodes which pick up the electrical signals
generated by the cells. This is then used to drive the movement of the
robot. Every time the robot nears an object, signals are directed to
stimulate the brain by means of the electrodes. In response, the
brain's output is used to drive the wheels of the robot, left and
right, so that it moves around in an attempt to avoid hitting objects.
The robot has no additional control from a human or a computer, its
sole means of control is from its own brain.
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On 2008-09-21 20:32:31 +0100, default <default@defaulter.net> said:
| Quote: | Here's a question for all you theologians: will an autonomous robot
using cultured brain cells have a soul?
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I guess we'll find out in the fullness of time.
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The University of Reading in the UK have a primitive biological brain
they developed. This is just a beginning, but you can expect it to
get more complex in the future.
http://www.reading.ac.uk/about/newsandevents/releases/PR16530.asp
A multidisciplinary team at the University of Reading has developed a
robot which is controlled by a biological brain formed from cultured
neurons. This cutting edge research is the first step to examine how
memories manifest themselves in the brain, and how a brain stores
specific pieces of data. The key aim is that eventually this will lead
to a better understanding of development and of diseases and disorders
which affect the brain such as Alzheimer's Disease, Parkinson's
Disease, stroke and brain injury.
The robot's biological brain is made up of cultured neurons which are
placed onto a multi electrode array (MEA). The MEA is a dish with
approximately 60 electrodes which pick up the electrical signals
generated by the cells. This is then used to drive the movement of the
robot. Every time the robot nears an object, signals are directed to
stimulate the brain by means of the electrodes. In response, the
brain's output is used to drive the wheels of the robot, left and
right, so that it moves around in an attempt to avoid hitting objects.
The robot has no additional control from a human or a computer, its
sole means of control is from its own brain. |
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Dan Listermann
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| Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:08 pm Post subject: Re: Robot with a biological brain |
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I wonder if there is a run on pitchforks and torches at the local iron
mongers shop.
"default" <default@defaulter.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Here's a question for all you theologians: will an autonomous robot
using cultured brain cells have a soul?
The University of Reading in the UK have a primitive biological brain
they developed. This is just a beginning, but you can expect it to
get more complex in the future.
http://www.reading.ac.uk/about/newsandevents/releases/PR16530.asp
A multidisciplinary team at the University of Reading has developed a
robot which is controlled by a biological brain formed from cultured
neurons. This cutting edge research is the first step to examine how
memories manifest themselves in the brain, and how a brain stores
specific pieces of data. The key aim is that eventually this will lead
to a better understanding of development and of diseases and disorders
which affect the brain such as Alzheimer's Disease, Parkinson's
Disease, stroke and brain injury.
The robot's biological brain is made up of cultured neurons which are
placed onto a multi electrode array (MEA). The MEA is a dish with
approximately 60 electrodes which pick up the electrical signals
generated by the cells. This is then used to drive the movement of the
robot. Every time the robot nears an object, signals are directed to
stimulate the brain by means of the electrodes. In response, the
brain's output is used to drive the wheels of the robot, left and
right, so that it moves around in an attempt to avoid hitting objects.
The robot has no additional control from a human or a computer, its
sole means of control is from its own brain.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:01 pm Post subject: Re: Robot with a biological brain |
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In alt.religion.christian Dan Listermann <dan@listermann.com> wrote:
| Quote: | nope.
Hey, why not?
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It is a well known fact that the soul resides in the heart. :)
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:49 pm Post subject: Re: Robot with a biological brain |
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"default" <default@defaulter.net> wrote ..
| Quote: | Here's a question for all you theologians: will an autonomous robot
using cultured brain cells have a soul?
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nope. |
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"Patrick" <barker_pb@erinot.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | "default" <default@defaulter.net> wrote ..
Here's a question for all you theologians: will an autonomous robot
using cultured brain cells have a soul?
nope.
Hey, why not? The superstitious do go on about a just fertilized cell |
having a soul (invisible and undetectable you know), why not any collection
of cells descended from a fertilized egg? Turning the robot off would be
murder, right? |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:22 pm Post subject: Re: Robot with a biological brain |
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In alt.religion.christian Dan Listermann <dan@listermann.com> wrote:
| Quote: | EskWIRED@spamblock.panix.com> wrote in message
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In alt.religion.christian Dan Listermann <dan@listermann.com> wrote:
nope.
Hey, why not?
It is a well known fact that the soul resides in the heart. :)
I have seen cultured heart cells. They even beat!
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God is doing that. He puts a soul into every humna heart at the moment of
conception.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:46 pm Post subject: Re: Robot with a biological brain |
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On 2008-09-23 13:49:25 +0100, "Patrick" <barker_pb@erinot.com> said:
| Quote: | "default" <default@defaulter.net> wrote ..
Here's a question for all you theologians: will an autonomous robot
using cultured brain cells have a soul?
nope.
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I wouldn't be so dogmatic. If God decided to ensoul a robot rthat would
be entirely his decision, wouldn't it? |
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Dan Listermann
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<EskWIRED@spamblock.panix.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | In alt.religion.christian Dan Listermann <dan@listermann.com> wrote:
nope.
Hey, why not?
It is a well known fact that the soul resides in the heart. 
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I have seen cultured heart cells. They even beat! |
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"Andrew" <thecroft@macunlimited.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On 2008-09-23 13:49:25 +0100, "Patrick" <barker_pb@erinot.com> said:
"default" <default@defaulter.net> wrote ..
Here's a question for all you theologians: will an autonomous robot
using cultured brain cells have a soul?
nope.
I wouldn't be so dogmatic. If God decided to ensoul a robot rthat would be
entirely his decision, wouldn't it?
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It would depend on what each individual imagined. The trouble is that each
individual will want to force his belief on everybody else. |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:31 pm Post subject: Re: Robot with a biological brain |
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On 2008-09-23 17:09:06 +0100, "Dan Listermann" <dan@listermann.com> said:
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"Andrew" <thecroft@macunlimited.net> wrote in message
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On 2008-09-23 13:49:25 +0100, "Patrick" <barker_pb@erinot.com> said:
"default" <default@defaulter.net> wrote ..
Here's a question for all you theologians: will an autonomous robot
using cultured brain cells have a soul?
nope.
I wouldn't be so dogmatic. If God decided to ensoul a robot rthat would be
entirely his decision, wouldn't it?
It would depend on what each individual imagined. The trouble is that each
individual will want to force his belief on everybody else.
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That, of course, will be true of atheists as well. Maybe it would be a
good idea if sometimes we were just a little less certain. |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:44 pm Post subject: Re: Robot with a biological brain |
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Dan Listermann wrote:
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"Patrick" <barker_pb@erinot.com> wrote in message
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"default" <default@defaulter.net> wrote ..
Here's a question for all you theologians: will an autonomous robot
using cultured brain cells have a soul?
nope.
Hey, why not? The superstitious do go on about a just fertilized cell
having a soul (invisible and undetectable you know), why not any
collection
of cells descended from a fertilized egg? Turning the robot off would be
murder, right?
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Can it make a commitment?
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| Quote: | Dan Listermann wrote:
"Patrick" <barker_pb@erinot.com> wrote in message
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"default" <default@defaulter.net> wrote ..
Here's a question for all you theologians: will an autonomous robot
using cultured brain cells have a soul?
nope.
Hey, why not? The superstitious do go on about a just fertilized cell
having a soul (invisible and undetectable you know), why not any
collection
of cells descended from a fertilized egg? Turning the robot off would
be
murder, right?
Can it make a commitment?
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Can just fertilized cell make a commitment? |
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"Andrew" <thecroft@macunlimited.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On 2008-09-23 17:09:06 +0100, "Dan Listermann" <dan@listermann.com> said:
"Andrew" <thecroft@macunlimited.net> wrote in message
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On 2008-09-23 13:49:25 +0100, "Patrick" <barker_pb@erinot.com> said:
"default" <default@defaulter.net> wrote ..
Here's a question for all you theologians: will an autonomous robot
using cultured brain cells have a soul?
nope.
I wouldn't be so dogmatic. If God decided to ensoul a robot rthat would
be
entirely his decision, wouldn't it?
It would depend on what each individual imagined. The trouble is that
each
individual will want to force his belief on everybody else.
That, of course, will be true of atheists as well. Maybe it would be a
good idea if sometimes we were just a little less certain.
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All atheists want is to be is left alone. Well there is an urge to play
with the fools for entertainment too. |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:22 pm Post subject: Re: Robot with a biological brain |
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Dan Listermann wrote:
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EskWIRED@spamblock.panix.com> wrote in message
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In alt.religion.christian Dan Listermann <dan@listermann.com> wrote:
nope.
Hey, why not?
It is a well known fact that the soul resides in the heart. :)
I have seen cultured heart cells. They even beat!
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Have you seen perfect justice yet?
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