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Something everyone should see. How The Food We Consume Is Produced
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:32 pm Post subject: Re: Something everyone should see. How The Food We Consume I |
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"john w @yahoo.com>" <j<no> wrote in message
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Something everyone should see. How The Food We Consume Is Produced
http://www.chooseveg.com/animal-cruelty.asp
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One of the many reasons why I'm a vegetarian.
However, when I mentioned this here, you screeched at me "Eat meat! It
won't hurt you!" or some such nonsense. Changing your tune?
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Scout Lady
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:33 pm Post subject: Re: Something everyone should see. How The Food We Consume I |
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Something everyone should see. How The Food We Consume Is Produced
http://www.chooseveg.com/animal-cruelty.asp
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If you don't want animals to suffer before they are killed or while they are
being killed buy your meat from Muslim butchers (except you can't get pork). |
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john w
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:07 pm Post subject: Re: Something everyone should see. How The Food We Consume I |
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On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:33:05 -0400, "Scout Lady"
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"john w @yahoo.com>" <j<no> wrote in message
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Something everyone should see. How The Food We Consume Is Produced
http://www.chooseveg.com/animal-cruelty.asp
If you don't want animals to suffer before they are killed or while they are
being killed buy your meat from Muslim butchers (except you can't get pork).
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I had heard that. I don't know of any local Muslim butchers. |
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Jani
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| Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:06 pm Post subject: Re: Something everyone should see. How The Food We Consume I |
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"john w @yahoo.com>" <j<no> wrote in message
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On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:33:05 -0400, "Scout Lady"
scoutlady@nospam4me.net> wrote:
© 2008 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
"john w @yahoo.com>" <j<no> wrote in message
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Something everyone should see. How The Food We Consume Is Produced
http://www.chooseveg.com/animal-cruelty.asp
If you don't want animals to suffer before they are killed or while they
are
being killed buy your meat from Muslim butchers (except you can't get
pork).
I had heard that. I don't know of any local Muslim butchers.
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Do you have a Jewish community in your area? If so, try a Jewish butcher's.
The method of slaughter is very similar to Muslim, but even a
correctly-slaughtered animal has parts which Jews aren't permitted to eat,
which are sold to non-Jewish customers. IIRC that includes the hindquarters,
which non-Jews usually consider a preferred cut of meat anyway.
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john w
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| Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 4:38 am Post subject: Re: Something everyone should see. How The Food We Consume I |
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On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 18:06:31 +0100, "Jani" <jani@jani.adsl24.co.uk>
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"john w @yahoo.com>" <j<no> wrote in message
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On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:33:05 -0400, "Scout Lady"
scoutlady@nospam4me.net> wrote:
© 2008 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
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"john w @yahoo.com>" <j<no> wrote in message
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Something everyone should see. How The Food We Consume Is Produced
http://www.chooseveg.com/animal-cruelty.asp
If you don't want animals to suffer before they are killed or while they
are
being killed buy your meat from Muslim butchers (except you can't get
pork).
I had heard that. I don't know of any local Muslim butchers.
Do you have a Jewish community in your area? If so, try a Jewish butcher's.
The method of slaughter is very similar to Muslim, but even a
correctly-slaughtered animal has parts which Jews aren't permitted to eat,
which are sold to non-Jewish customers. IIRC that includes the hindquarters,
which non-Jews usually consider a preferred cut of meat anyway.
Ah Ha! I shall put that on my "To Do" list for when I'm rich and |
famous.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 4:44 am Post subject: Re: Something everyone should see. How The Food We Consume I |
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On Aug 8, 4:38 pm, john w <j<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Do you have a Jewish community in your area? If so, try a Jewish butcher's.
The method of slaughter is very similar to Muslim, but even a
correctly-slaughtered animal has parts which Jews aren't permitted to eat,
which are sold to non-Jewish customers. IIRC that includes the hindquarters,
which non-Jews usually consider a preferred cut of meat anyway.
Ah Ha! I shall put that on my "To Do" list for when I'm rich and
famous.
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What in the world does finding a kosher butcher have to do with being
"rich and famous"? |
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Robibnikoff
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| Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 5:31 am Post subject: Re: Something everyone should see. How The Food We Consume I |
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On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 18:06:31 +0100, "Jani" <jani@jani.adsl24.co.uk
wrote:
© 2008 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
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"john w @yahoo.com>" <j<no> wrote in message
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On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:33:05 -0400, "Scout Lady"
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© 2008 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
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"john w @yahoo.com>" <j<no> wrote in message
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Something everyone should see. How The Food We Consume Is Produced
http://www.chooseveg.com/animal-cruelty.asp
If you don't want animals to suffer before they are killed or while they
are
being killed buy your meat from Muslim butchers (except you can't get
pork).
I had heard that. I don't know of any local Muslim butchers.
Do you have a Jewish community in your area? If so, try a Jewish
butcher's.
The method of slaughter is very similar to Muslim, but even a
correctly-slaughtered animal has parts which Jews aren't permitted to eat,
which are sold to non-Jewish customers. IIRC that includes the
hindquarters,
which non-Jews usually consider a preferred cut of meat anyway.
Ah Ha! I shall put that on my "To Do" list for when I'm rich and
famous.
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ujb
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| Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 5:58 am Post subject: Re: Something everyone should see. How The Food We Consume I |
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On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 18:06:31 +0100, "Jani" <jani@jani.adsl24.co.uk
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© 2008 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
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"john w @yahoo.com>" <j<no> wrote in message
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On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:33:05 -0400, "Scout Lady"
scoutlady@nospam4me.net> wrote:
© 2008 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
"john w @yahoo.com>" <j<no> wrote in message
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Something everyone should see. How The Food We Consume Is Produced
http://www.chooseveg.com/animal-cruelty.asp
If you don't want animals to suffer before they are killed or while they
are
being killed buy your meat from Muslim butchers (except you can't get
pork).
I had heard that. I don't know of any local Muslim butchers.
Do you have a Jewish community in your area? If so, try a Jewish butcher's.
The method of slaughter is very similar to Muslim, but even a
correctly-slaughtered animal has parts which Jews aren't permitted to eat,
which are sold to non-Jewish customers. IIRC that includes the hindquarters,
which non-Jews usually consider a preferred cut of meat anyway.
Ah Ha! I shall put that on my "To Do" list for when I'm rich and
famous.
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you are running out of time, grasshopper!
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHuHnv32GnU>
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| Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:38 pm Post subject: Re: Something everyone should see. How The Food We Consume I |
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On Aug 9, 6:27 am, "Scout Lady" <scoutl...@nospam4me.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Kelly I know Muslims are permitted to eat kosher if there is a u in a circle
on the packaging provided there is not a Muslim source available. Are Jews
allowed to eat meat that was slaughtered the Islamic way?
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IIRC, Islamic dietary laws are less restrictive than Kashrut law. So
I kind of doubt if a Kasruth observant Jew would consider anything
halal to be acceptable. FYI: the OU (U inside the circle) is just
one of the symbols used to indentify Kosher food. However, the OU and
the K are probably the most recognized and widely used. |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: Something everyone should see. How The Food We Consume I |
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On Aug 9, 9:09 am, john w <j<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Ah Ha! I shall put that on my "To Do" list for when I'm rich and
famous.
What in the world does finding a kosher butcher have to do with being
"rich and famous"?.
Oh, good grief!
It's an old expression, Kelly.
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Okay...but what does it have to do with finding a kosher butcher? Are
you in the habit of saying "...when I'm rich and famous" in reply to
questions that have nothing to do with being "rich and famous"? |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 5:08 pm Post subject: Re: Something everyone should see. How The Food We Consume I |
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On Aug 9, 9:52 am, "Scout Lady" <scoutl...@nospam4me.net> wrote:
| Quote: | "<Kelly>" <316k...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 9, 6:27 am, "Scout Lady" <scoutl...@nospam4me.net> wrote:
Kelly I know Muslims are permitted to eat kosher if there is a u in a
circle
on the packaging provided there is not a Muslim source available. Are Jews
allowed to eat meat that was slaughtered the Islamic way?
IIRC, Islamic dietary laws are less restrictive than Kashrut law. So
I kind of doubt if a Kasruth observant Jew would consider anything
halal to be acceptable. FYI: the OU (U inside the circle) is just
one of the symbols used to indentify Kosher food. However, the OU and
the K are probably the most recognized and widely used.
A Muslim girl I worked with told me the k is not as acceptable to Muslims as
the ou is.
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I remember reading something 10 years (or so) ago in an orthodox
periodical about the "K" being place inappropriately on some food
products. Could be why. |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 5:59 pm Post subject: Re: Something everyone should see. How The Food We Consume I |
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On Aug 9, 10:41 am, "Jani" <j...@jani.adsl24.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | As I understand it, the OU symbol means the product is kosher according to a
general Orthodox standard, whereas the K means only that it has been
certified by a rabbi (and, presumably, the standard may not be consistent
from one rabbi to another).
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OU represents the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations and it is
just one of many groups that certify foods as kosher. |
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Scout Lady
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| Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:27 pm Post subject: Re: Something everyone should see. How The Food We Consume I |
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"<Kelly>" <316kcbk@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 8, 4:38 pm, john w <j<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Do you have a Jewish community in your area? If so, try a Jewish
butcher's.
The method of slaughter is very similar to Muslim, but even a
correctly-slaughtered animal has parts which Jews aren't permitted to
eat,
which are sold to non-Jewish customers. IIRC that includes the
hindquarters,
which non-Jews usually consider a preferred cut of meat anyway.
Ah Ha! I shall put that on my "To Do" list for when I'm rich and
famous.
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What in the world does finding a kosher butcher have to do with being
"rich and famous"?
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Kelly I know Muslims are permitted to eat kosher if there is a u in a circle
on the packaging provided there is not a Muslim source available. Are Jews
allowed to eat meat that was slaughtered the Islamic way? |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:50 pm Post subject: Re: Something everyone should see. How The Food We Consume I |
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On Aug 9, 11:35 am, "Jani" <j...@jani.adsl24.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | What I gathered from the discussions on alt.messianic was that Orthodox is
accepted as 'the standard' (not only in regard to kashrut, but generally)
but individual rabbis have different views as to how 'the' standard is to be
interpreted.
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Well...there are also different variations of Orthodox and even then
different variations of kashering depending on the country, region of
the country, states (in the US), and cities within the state. But
yes, there are individual rabbis who will have input; i.e. Lubavitcher
rabbis will see it differently than Reform rabbis, et al.
| Quote: | Do you post there?
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I look in on it from time to time but have never actively posted there. |
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