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 Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:55 am Post subject: Re: The First Great Deception |
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BrendaDBakerLLC@gmail.com wrote:
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On Apr 16, 11:20 pm, Azure <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote:
BrendaDBaker...@gmail.com wrote:
LLC, an Untouchable Attorney?
First I should address that based on my degree, research, and personal
view- the christian god is a made up entity or egeregore/servitor
designed as a mind control of the masses.
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Yes, Ptolemy gathered the Tribes and translated their legends to text so
there was a base which all could stand on, the verbal word is mutable.
Christian mythology is a rip
So!
What would you do if you found your name in that book?
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No, it stole one great teaching, the Katholick's, those who "Study ALL
Religions.
Not those who protect one slanted view at the point of a sword.
Sword is for Defense.
Further it is
| Quote: | the greatest cancer and plague on humanity responsible for more
torture, war, and suffering than any other religion.
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Why the Book says the Red Goat the Churches hate so much replaces the
White Ram, the White Ram Steals people from God.
Convert or be
| Quote: | convicted - assimilate or be annihilated.
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Rome!
Doesn't Mean the Jacobites Rome fed to the Lions are that way.
That is the repeated message
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No, the repeated message is there is but God, flesh is not God.
Jesus is not GOD!
Apollo is not GOD!
Buddha is not GOD!
Rama is not GOD!
Krishna is not GOD!
Indra is not GOD!
Azazel refused to sign the pact with the others who decided to portray
themselves as "Gods" before man.
( I should note that most christians
| Quote: | offer them selves up as mindless servitors)
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God leads many, can't blame them for following.
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That aside, LLC has nothing to do with being an attorney, that query
professes ignorance.
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No it doesn't, your attack at the query professes you are "Hiding
Something"
Many attorneys use LLC because the know it is
| Quote: | often the best route to file as 'self- employed' individual.
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LLC is an
| Quote: | option for business registration as is sole proprietor, corporation,
etc. IF you can be llc you will keep more money as recieving a parnter
share and avoiding paying the social security and other rip off taxes.
There are also usually less taxes all and all this way. There are
other perks legally too - yet still nothing to do with being an
attorney. Esquire on the other hand would.
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As tricksters go - I much prefer coyote medicine to christian myth.
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I like all of it, only way to understand anything is question it.
Bible talks of Apollo, Odin, Jera/Hera, many subjects which if you deny
the knowledge you never get there.
| Quote: | You're view is interesting, perhaps frightening that you would choose
to accept such sadism as being merely child like. Given that child
meets all the qualifications for psychopath.
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Kali represents the "Full Circle", the Light onto the Darkness back onto
the light again.
Do you have children -
No, Sethians have a problem there.
is
| Quote: | it then ok for them to commit genocide, murder, incest, infanticide,
and torture, or in some cases not commit but promote it? I hope you do
not raise your children,should you have them, to be like this god
child you seem to be so willing to worship.
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It is far far better than anything else any one I have spoken to knows
of.
Not some demented Old Man barking Orders.
Not some Haggard Old Witch set in her ways.
An Evolving Child, one which uses man as a tool to grow by.
We Age far Faster than God, we therefore help the Child understand Us
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:49 pm Post subject: Re: The First Great Deception |
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On Apr 18, 1:55 am, Azure <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote:
| Quote: | First I should address that based on my degree, research, and personal
view- the christian god is a made up entity or egeregore/servitor
designed as a mind control of the masses.
Yes, Ptolemy gathered the Tribes and translated their legends to text so
there was a base which all could stand on, the verbal word is mutable.
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You should by now have experienced many aside from myself that do not
believe the bible nor christianity is a base all can stand on.
| Quote: | Christian mythology is a rip
So!
What would you do if you found your name in that book?
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It isn't, but I would find complete disinterest either way. HOW is
this relevant?
| Quote: | off of all the great myths in its surrounding region.
No, it stole one great teaching, the Katholick's, those who "Study ALL
Religions.
Not those who protect one slanted view at the point of a sword.
Sword is for Defense.
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You could stand much more research from a broad range of sources. It
most clearly did, and greatly attacked the parts and wholes that did
not fit the regime.
| Quote: | Further it is
the greatest cancer and plague on humanity responsible for more
torture, war, and suffering than any other religion.
Why the Book says the Red Goat the Churches hate so much replaces the
White Ram, the White Ram Steals people from God.
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This does not make much sense on its own - please explain more or
share source.
| Quote: | Convert or be
convicted - assimilate or be annihilated.
Rome!
Doesn't Mean the Jacobites Rome fed to the Lions are that way.
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It was not just Rome. Look at what England and Spain have done with
chrisitianity, though you could look at what happened in the US too.
Do you have an issue with Rome......... present or past???
| Quote: | That is the repeated message
over and over through history.
No, the repeated message is there is but God, flesh is not God.
Jesus is not GOD!
Apollo is not GOD!
Buddha is not GOD!
Rama is not GOD!
Krishna is not GOD!
Indra is not GOD!
Azazel refused to sign the pact with the others who decided to portray
themselves as "Gods" before man.
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You are equally entitled to your perceptions and opinions - I clearly
stated how what my beliefs are in relation to christianity.
| Quote: | That aside, LLC has nothing to do with being an attorney, that query
professes ignorance.
No it doesn't, your attack at the query professes you are "Hiding
Something"
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I merely offered clarification if you were ignorant of llc, and you
the chance to clarify your statement. You have not done that. I have
nothing to hide - ask away.  SOoooo why did you bring "untouchable
attorney" up??? Hmmmm.
| Quote: | often the best route to file as 'self- employed' individual.
LLC is an
As tricksters go - I much prefer coyote medicine to christian myth.
I like all of it, only way to understand anything is question it.
Bible talks of Apollo, Odin, Jera/Hera, many subjects which if you deny
the knowledge you never get there.
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I do not at all. BTW you do not have to like something to question or
understand it. A psychologist may not like psychopathic behavior
though they can continue to question and understand it.
| Quote: | You're view is interesting, perhaps frightening that you would choose
to accept such sadism as being merely child like. Given that child
meets all the qualifications for psychopath.
Kali represents the "Full Circle", the Light onto the Darkness back onto
the light again.
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Kali for many represents the beauty and perfection of darkness.
Darkness that fails none even when light does. The darkness from which
all made to life - even you from your mothers womb.
| Quote: | Do you have children -
No, Sethians have a problem there.
is
it then ok for them to commit genocide, murder, incest, infanticide,
and torture, or in some cases not commit but promote it? I hope you do
not raise your children,should you have them, to be like this god
child you seem to be so willing to worship.
It is far far better than anything else any one I have spoken to knows
of.
Not some demented Old Man barking Orders.
Not some Haggard Old Witch set in her ways.
An Evolving Child, one which uses man as a tool to grow by.
We Age far Faster than God, we therefore help the Child understand Us
and evolve in itself.
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so are you saying that commiting genocide murder incest infanticide
and on is far better than anything else....?
Your views are interesting.
As satan goes - there are many satanist of various brances and
Suitheist that would very much disagree with you.
SO what is your interest in druidry?
And curiously what do you think of Demons? Given the name stock - they
are also bearers of knowledge, as angels messengers.
And at chance I would not find out why sethians do not bear children -
could you explain.
Again- what could I possibly attack - an opinion? A belief can not be
threatened by disagreement less the believer is weak on his own ground
along - Nor is a disagreement an attack unless you are threatened by
others believe something different. Strong opinions like yours and
mine are far better than all the mindless re babbling and parroting
that goes on everywhere.
but please feel free to rant , moan , groan and defend all you need
too should you disagree. :)
Ah another curiousity. How do you view Lilith VS Eve? |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:43 am Post subject: Re: The First Great Deception, is yours |
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BrendaDBakerLLC@gmail.com, The Deluded Christian Hater wrote:
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On Apr 18, 1:55 am, Azure <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote:
First I should address that based on my degree, research, and personal
view- the christian god is a made up entity or egeregore/servitor
designed as a mind control of the masses.
Yes, Ptolemy gathered the Tribes and translated their legends to text so
there was a base which all could stand on, the verbal word is mutable.
You should by now have experienced many aside from myself that do not
believe the bible nor christianity is a base all can stand on.
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You should try to talk to people before you start throwing Insults!
FIRST AND FOREMOST, I am not a Jesus Freak!
"GOD" or "Goddess" yes, but Flesh and Blood replacing God, NO!
Apollo, Rama, Krishna, Buddha, "Man is Not God", Yes!
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Christian mythology is a rip
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Stolen from my Family, we were the Jacobite's of the Syriac Wars Rome
fed to the Lions, after they figured we were all gone, they then
converted!
Our Teachings they converted!
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So!
What would you do if you found your name in that book?
It isn't,
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Numbers 13:16, Mine "IS"!
but I would find complete disinterest either way.
Why because some people lie!
Hitler did that!
HOW is
Your a Bigot insulting me for finding teachings in Brother Billy Book
which Prove he Lies.
You insult me for trying to show Gays where the Bible does not say God
hates them, in fact the exact opposite.
They are "The Image of God".
Straights hate us because Mommy Likes us best!
JERA!
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| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:23 pm Post subject: Re: The First Great Deception, is yours |
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Azure
I did not accuse you of being anything not even a jesus freak.
My beliefs in regards to christianity have nothing to do with you. If
one uses reverse psychology on your defense - it would point towards
egocentricity as well as scathing intolerance of others. My beliefs
have nothing to do with you. Stating my opinion doesn't attack yours.
Nor have I told anyone here, unlike you, that they were wrong on any
issue of belief. Though clearly you have not explained your
'untouchable attorney'.
It doesn't matter to me that you are gay or any variety of the glbt
community. I have many friends that are bi, and a good few that are
gay both male and female. Even a bi hetero couple that have gay
relationships as they choose. We are the godparents of that union.
None of them feel they were mommies favorite. But perhaps that is the
bible belt for you. Infact if you go back into certain part of my
ancestry gay people were consider exceptional healers and accepted as
they were.
You did not answer any of my questions at all. I am not familiar with
the book you discuss at all- but sounds worth the adventure a bit to
know about another 'cult'.
It is sad you are so angry - try using Occam's Razor more!
Ben Johnson wrote:
Thy praise and dispraise are to me alike
one doth not stroke me nor the other strike.
Truly words to live by!
I am an INTJ............. do you know what you are?
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:56 am Post subject: Re: The First Great Deception, is yours |
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BrendaDBakerLLC@gmail.com wrote:
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Azure
I did not accuse you of being anything not even a jesus freak.
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Seemed as though you were!
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My beliefs in regards to christianity have nothing to do with you.
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Good, I hate being identified with them.
If
| Quote: | one uses reverse psychology on your defense - it would point towards
egocentricity as well as scathing intolerance of others.
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By you yes, at which being fed up with the bigotry others have thrown at
me and continue to throw at me endlessly I retaliate in Kind of late.
My beliefs
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Seemed as though you were being direct with me.
Stating my opinion doesn't attack yours.
| Quote: | Nor have I told anyone here, unlike you, that they were wrong on any
issue of belief.
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There is room for discussion, I never take that away even if I disagree
with a person.
I DO NOT DEMAND THEY SHUT UP.
BUT I will Defend my Position.
Especially to people who insist on attacking and insulting me.
Most Especially the Virus Flingers who are Cross Posting a Flame war
which has been going around for years now.
Either I have a Right to Talk, same as anyone else or no one does.
Take away the rights of one take away the rights of all.
Though clearly you have not explained your
| Quote: | 'untouchable attorney'.
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Say what??
Limited Liability, Off Shore Corporate Untouchables.
I got CIA/Military Intelligence/Justice Department "HUNTING ME" and you
want to know about untouchable attorneys?
Alaska can falsify Environmental Records, steal files and paint me
crazy, claiming the barrels I saw were never seen by them at the site.
Then dig the barrels I reported up, blame the U.S. for placing them, and
submit both False EPA Site File Numbers and EPA Disposal File Numbers
and Bill the United States for a Clean Up.
Then the Feds turn around and inform me "No Records Found"!
Judges Sons as the Attorneys, the US Attorney for the State a
Registering Partner in a Haz Mat Company on there which is stealing
money from Trust Accounts.
Then he represents the whole deal as counsel instead of being prosecuted
like the others.
Municipal League of Attorneys.
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It doesn't matter to me that you are gay or any variety of the glbt
community. I have many friends that are bi,
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You sound like Albans trying to pretend to be someone else again.
and a good few that are
| Quote: | gay both male and female.
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Really Sound like Albans.
Even a bi hetero couple that have gay
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Now your getting Homophobic!
We are the godparents of that union.
Carbon Copy of Albans!
| Quote: | None of them feel they were mommies favorite.
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Sorry but "The BIBLE TELLS ME SO" so Christians have no choice but to
accept it.
They Don't thought, they instead deny their own teachings and are a
bunch of Bigoted Liars.
But perhaps that is the
| Quote: | bible belt for you.
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Bigoted Liars!
YEP Sure IS!
In fact if you go back into certain part of my
| Quote: | ancestry gay people were consider exceptional healers and accepted as
they were.
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Yep, gets stronger the further back one goes too.
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You did not answer any of my questions at all.
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Such as??
I am not familiar with
| Quote: | the book you discuss at all- but sounds worth the adventure a bit to
know about another 'cult'.
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Any Religion no matter what is a "CULT"!
KJV uses Gaelic/Briton Teachings.
Christians are a CULT derived from the "Cave Bears" and TARA!
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It is sad you are so angry - try using Occam's Razor more!
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No, I sit trying with all I have trying not to swing the Sword of Light.
I paid an attorney to do a Job.
Statutory Mandate.
The Issues are Front Page News.
He is avoiding us.
Mandate to buy us off, "NOW" instead even with the Airport built in our
yard they claim Ad Valerem and try to foreclose.
State and Federal Constitutions both cite Private Property shall not be
"TAKEN or USED" with out just compensation being paid.
Transportation Act Prohibits Foreclosure.
Demands the Airport write us a check.
Instead the Airport claims our safety does not matter and reduces safety
requirements and Airport Arc Categories to defy us while trying to
foreclose on our property.
Airports also give Assurances to GOD they will not Operate Black-market
Dump Sites on the Airport, especially in Waters.
That was what got me in trouble in the first place I caught them Red
Handed doing it.
Barrels everywhere.
Filling the Swamps with Unlabeled Unknown Barrels to make room at the
end of the runway for ballfields so the kids can play!
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Ben Johnson wrote:
Thy praise and dispraise are to me alike
one doth not stroke me nor the other strike.
Truly words to live by!
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Nope I have to find people with like concepts to me.
God showed me the Gays Answer to the Christian Right.
Gay is even a term derived from "My Family"!
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I am an INTJ............. do you know what you are?
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 11:08 pm Post subject: Re: Separation of Church and State Only for Certain Religion |
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Josh Rosenbluth <jrosenbluth@comcast.net> wrote:
| Quote: | :|On May 21, 10:30 am, Peter Franks <n...@none.com> wrote:
> Nice way to squeeze in bias.
> The US Constitution doesn't say /anything/ about 'accommodating'. It is
> crystal clear -- government can in no way infringe upon or prohibit the
> free exercise of religion.
:|Since the US Constitution is silent on "accommodating" religion, the
:|public school is free to do so so long as it does not infringe on Free
:|Exercise rights, nor violate the Establishment clause. The hard
:|question in this case is whether the school has violated the
:|Establishment clause.
:|Josh Rosenbluth
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Some additional info on accommodation
PREACHING TO THE PUBLIC SCHOOL CHOIR: THE ESTABLISHMENT CLAUSE, RACHEL
BAUCHMAN, AND THE SEARCH FOR THE ELUSIVE BRIGHT LINE
JULIAN R. KOSSOW[*]
http://www.law.fsu.edu/journals/lawreview/frames/241/kossfram.html
[excerpt]
E. The Burger Court's Move Toward Accommodation
Toward the end of the Burger era, the Supreme Court began to retreat from
strict adherence to separation of church and state. In terms of values,
accommodation moved to the forefront.[129] The Court's 1984 decision in
Lynch v. Donnelly[130] exemplified this shift. Lynch involved an annual
Christmas display in a park in Pawtucket, Rhode Island.[131] Included in
the display for the previous forty years were a Nativity scene, a Santa
Claus house, reindeer pulling Santa's sleigh, candy-striped poles, a
Christmas tree, carolers, cut-out figures such as a clown, an elephant, and
a teddy bear, hundreds of colored lights, and a banner reading "Seasons
Greetings," among other things.[132] In an opinion written by Chief Justice
Burger, the Court held that the use of the Nativity scene in the context of
a Christmas display did not violate the Establishment Clause because the
government did not intend to aid any particular religion or faith.[133] The
Court emphasized the importance of viewing the government's action in
relation to the circumstances.[134] In this case, the city had a secular
purpose for including the Nativity scene in its Christmas display.[135] In
the context of the Christmas holiday, the Nativity scene neither advanced a
religious cause nor created an excessive entanglement between religion and
government.[136] The Court further stated that any benefit received by a
particular religion or faith was "indirect, remote, and incidental."[137]
The Court found that rather than requiring complete separation of church
and state, the Constitution allowed for accommodation of all religions and
prevented hostility towards any. The Court went out of its way to point out
that "[a]nything less would require the 'callous indifference' . . . that
was never intended by the Establishment Clause."[138]
IV. THE ESTABLISHMENT CLAUSE IN THE REHNQUIST COURT
A. Dismantling the Wall
If the trend away from the separation of church and state was a drizzle at
the end of the Burger Court, it became a torrent in the Rehnquist reign.
Even in the most clear-cut cases, Chief Justice Rehnquist and Justice
Scalia revealed that their personal agenda was to emphasize the Free
Exercise Clause at the expense of the Establishment Clause. For example, in
the 1987 case Edwards v. Aguillard,[139] Justices Rehnquist and Scalia were
the dissenters in the seven-to-two decision.[140]Edwards involved a
Louisiana law which forbade the teaching of evolution in public schools
unless accompanied by instruction in the theory of "creation science."[141]
In an opinion written by Justice Brennan, the Court held that the law
served no identifiable secular purpose and that its primary effect was the
promotion of a particular religious belief, both of which violated the
Establishment Clause.[142] The Court reasoned that references to religion
may be valid as long as they do not have the purpose or effect of advancing
religious goals.[143] The Court also noted that younger students require
even more protection because the danger of influencing the beliefs of
public grade school and high school children is so great.[144] Fortunately,
Justices Rehnquist and Scalia stood alone. Had they carried the day in
Edwards, there would have been little, if any, protection left under the
Establishment Clause.
The Rehnquist Court's desire to dismantle the Establishment Clause's wall
of separation between church and state became clear in Bowen v.
Kendrick.[14]5 Bowen involved the constitutionality of the Adolescent
Family Life Act (AFLA), which authorized federal grants to secular and
sectarian organizations for counseling and research in the areas of
premarital adolescent relations and teen pregnancy.[146] Chief Justice
Rehnquist, writing for the Court in a five-to-four decision, ostensibly
applied the Lemon test in holding that, on its face, AFLA did not have the
"primary effect of advancing religion."[147]
Justice Blackmun, in a compelling dissent, asserted that
AFLA, unlike any statute this Court has upheld, pays for teachers and
counselors, employed by and subject to the direction of religious
authorities, to educate impressionable young minds on issues of religious
moment. Time and again we have recognized the difficulties inherent in
asking even the best-intentioned individuals in such positions to make a
total separation between secular teaching and religious doctrine.[148]
Continuing his assault on the majority's form-over-substance approach,
Justice Blackmun declared:
Whatever Congress had in mind, however, it enacted a statute that
facilitated and, indeed, encouraged the use of public funds for such
instruction, by giving religious groups a central pedagogical and
counseling role without imposing any restraints on the sectarian quality of
the participation. As the record develops thus far in this litigation makes
all too clear, federal tax dollars appropriated for AFLA purposes have been
used, with government approval, to support religious teaching.[149]
B. Allegheny County: Accommodation Moves to the Forefront
The conservative ideology of accommodation, implicit in earlier
decisions,[150] became explicit in County of Allegheny v. American Civil
Liberties Union.[151] This case involved the constitutionality of two
holiday displays in downtown Pittsburgh. The first display was a Nativity
scene placed inside the county courthouse.[152] The second was an
eighteen-foot menorah placed outside the City-County Building next to a
forty-five-foot Christmas tree.[153]
This case was unusual in that four justices found that neither display
violated the Establishment Clause,[154] three justices found that both
displays violated the Establishment Clause,[155] and two justices found
that the Nativity scene was unconstitutional while the menorah, in its
context, was constitutional.[156] The majority distinguished the two
displays by indicating that the Nativity scene conveyed a religious
message.[157] The Court held that while "[t]he government may acknowledge
Christmas as a cultural phenomenon . . . it may not observe it as a
Christian holy day by suggesting that people praise God for the birth of
Jesus."[158] Although the menorah is the traditional symbol of Chanukah,
the Court reasoned that its placement next to a Christmas tree created an
"overall holiday setting" that mitigated the menorah's original nature,
making it a symbol of the winter holiday season and not a religious message
of the Jewish faith.[159]
Justice Kennedy articulated the conservative view of accommodation in
Allegheny County.[160] With respect to the Nativity scene, Justice Kennedy
objected to the majority's application of the Lemon test; however, he
purported to follow it himself.[161] Ironically, his application of the
Lemon test would have severely weakened the separation of church and state
with the very standard that has most effectively maintained its
preservation during the past twenty years.
The real thrust of Justice Kennedy's opinion, however, lay in his use of
the coercive effect test,[162] which Justice O'Connor criticized in her
concurrence:
An Establishment Clause standard that prohibits only "coercive"
practices or overt efforts at government proselytization . . . but fails to
take account of the numerous more subtle ways that government can show
favoritism to particular beliefs or convey a message of disapproval to
others, would not, in my view, adequately protect the religious liberty or
respect the religious diversity of the members of our pluralistic political
community. Thus, this Court has never relied on coercion alone as the
touchstone of Establishment Clause analysis.[163]
Drawing upon her concurrence in Lynch v. Donnelly,[164] Justice O'Connor's
proposed solution was the endorsement test.[165] In Lynch, Justice O'Connor
had described the Establishment Clause's protections as prohibiting the
government from "making adherence to a religion relevant in any way to a
person's standing in the political community."[166] The government violated
this prohibition when it endorsed a particular religion: "Endorsement sends
a message to non-adherents that they are outsiders, not full members of the
political community, and an accompanying message to adherents that they are
insiders, favored members of the political community."[167] Justice
O'Connor's thesis in Lynch was that the relevant inquiry was not "whether
secular objectives for the legislation existed, but rather, whether the
government intend[ed] to convey a message of endorsement or disapproval of
religion or whether the message had such effect."[168]In Allegheny County,
Justice O'Connor explained that the test was the most appropriate to apply
in Establishment Clause cases because, "[a]s a theoretical matter, [it]
captures the essential command of the Establishment Clause, namely, that
government must not make a person's religious beliefs relevant to his or
her standing in the political community by conveying a message 'that
religion or a particular religious belief is favored or preferred.' "[169]
Thus, when the Allegheny County dust had settled, three separate
Establishment Clause tests remained: the Lemon test, the coercive effect
test, and the endorsement test.[170] In the context of our country's
diversity and pluralism, in which constitutional protections are so vital,
the existence of three tests was a harbinger of trouble.
C. Establishment Clause Jurisprudence Fractured
Lee v. Weisman[171] involved a Providence, Rhode Island, school district
that invited a rabbi to give the invocation and benediction at a graduation
ceremony.[172] It had been the long-standing policy of the school district
to invite members of the clergy to give such addresses, as long as they
followed the school district's guidelines and gave assurances that the
prayers would be nonsectarian.[173] Justice Kennedy, writing for the
majority, used the coercive effect test in holding that state-sponsored and
directed religious exercise amounted to an impermissible involvement of
government with religion.[174] The Court reasoned that because the school
district provided the rabbi with a pamphlet on school policy and instructed
him to deliver a nonsectarian message, they were in effect controlling the
prayer's content.[175] The Court declared that not only are actions or
practices that coerce people to support or participate in religious
activities invalid, but those that even pose the danger of doing so are
likewise impermissible in light of the Establishment Clause.[176] Again,
Justices Scalia, White, and Thomas, and Chief Justice Rehnquist dissented
because of their belief that the facts of Lee fit comfortably within the
concept of accommodation of religion by government.[177] In retrospect, it
is not surprising that because of their accommodationist agenda these four
justices refused to concur in even the weakest of church-state separation
standards, the coercive effect test.[178]
The Rehnquist Court continued its expansion of the Free Exercise Clause in
Zobrest v. Catalina Foothills School District.[179] Zobrest concerned a
hearing-impaired student who was attending a private Roman Catholic
school.[180] Zobrest asked the school district to furnish him with a sign
language interpreter, but the school district refused.[181] In a
five-to-four opinion, Chief Justice Rehnquist wrote that "[g]overnment
programs that neutrally provide benefits to a broad class of citizens
defined without reference to religion are not readily subject to an
Establishment Clause challenge just because sectarian institutions may also
receive an attenuated financial benefit."[182] The Court reasoned that any
aid the secular school received was indirect because the aid attached to
the individual child, and the parents had the choice to send him to any
school they wished.[183]
Again, Justice Blackmun wrote a dissenting opinion. " 'Although
Establishment Clause jurisprudence is characterized by few absolutes,' at a
minimum 'the Clause does absolutely prohibit government-financed or
government-sponsored indoctrination into the beliefs of a particular
religious faith.' "[184] Thus, in its rush to restrict the protections of
the Establishment Clause, the Rehnquist majority in Zobrest embarked upon
the dangerous path of political decisionmaking.[185] There was no need for
the Court to decide Zobrest on constitutional grounds. There were two
other, nonconstitutional grounds on which the Court properly could have
decided the case.[186]
The Court's compulsion to expand the Free Exercise Clause found its most
recent expression in a five-to-four decision, Rosenberger v. Rector of the
University of Virginia.[187]In Rosenberger, the Court upheld the payment of
public funds to an evangelical student organization devoted to religious
proselytization.[188] Writing for the majority, Justice Kennedy stated that
[t]hough our Establishment Clause jurisprudence is in hopeless
disarray, this case provides an opportunity to reaffirm one basic principle
that has enjoyed an uncharacteristic degree of consensus: The Clause does
not compel the exclusion of religious groups from government benefits
programs that are generally available to a broad class of
participants.[189]
In a cogent dissent, Justice Souter asserted "[t]he Court today, for the
first time, approves direct funding of core religious activities by an arm
of the State."[190] Justices Souter, Stevens, Ginsburg, and Breyer viewed
this as a clear violation of the Establishment Clause. Concluding his
dissent with a reference to his own apprehension about the future,[191]
Justice Souter recalled Chief Justice Burger's prophetic warning in Lemon:
" '[I]n constitutional adjudication some steps, which when taken were
thought to approach "the verge" have become the platform for yet further
steps. A certain momentum develops in constitutional theory and it can be a
"downhill thrust" easily set in motion but difficult to retard or stop.'
"[192]
[end excerpt]
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You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Historical Reality SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
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.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
.. . .
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USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote
"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
*****************************************************************
THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
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RhymeCon <bob4@neo.rr.com> wrote:
| Quote: | :|On Jun 7, 10:09 pm, J.H. <a...@gas.com> wrote:
> Iraq 911
> It Makes No Sense!
> www.iraq911.com
:|Again with my apologies I’m going to try to send a post to the wrong
:|thread in hopes it might be accepted by /alt.politics.usa.constitution?
:|hl=en. I’ve registered with FeedDemon in hopes it would help get me
:|there rather than going through Google, and it works for some other
:|sites. Here, my intended thread was - buckeye, June 8, 6:06 am,
:|beginning “Abortion, Pornography and Gays are all church-state
:|issues……” Again it didn’t work. But my computer has been doing some
:|weird things and I’m definitely not a computer geek so I’ll take the
:|blame and resolve not to try again (though I probably will, when in a
:|masochistic mood.) My attempted post was as follows:
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There is nothing at all complicated about posting to UseNet Newsgroups.
You have been told how to do it a number of times however, you don't seem
to pay much attetnion
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You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Historical Reality SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
***************************************************************
.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
.. . .
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USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote
"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
*****************************************************************
THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
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Karlsson
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| Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:31 pm Post subject: Re: puhdas saksalainen olut ei krapulaa |
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23.05.2008 Aamusta asti on syydetty hätääntyneelle kansalle kas vihnettä
vallattoman toimivaa mehiläistuhojippoa. Juu ilmeisesti hätääntyneet
kansalaiset ovat jo viikojen ajan tukkineet puhelinlinjat tivaten syytä
siihen , ettei pölyttäjistä ole koko maasamme harmainta hajua missään. Ja
koska edes mehiläisliitto enää jaksa keksiä mysteeriin enää virannomaisiamme
epäileville kysejille mitään haluttua selitystä alkaa YLE syytämään omaansa.
Ei nyt ei kelpaa punkit, ei tekaistut virukset. Ei edes kiinalaiset
sokeriruokintaliemimyrkytykset. Ei edes geenimanipulointi tunnu kansamme
kauhua laannuttavan. Kuten muistamme jo pitkään tiedetty TODELLINEN
säteilyionisaatiopäästöfakta harhauttajana on ehdottoman kiellon tabu.
Nyt on siis ydinhallintomme kehittänyt, etten sanoisi nerokkaankivan
selitteen äidin, kaikkien ydinvalheiden kuninkaan syväluotaavan
neronkiivauden laattalentojen likaisenharmaan kuninkaan. Ja kuten
ydinalallamme on tapana ollut massasyydöllä jopa kaikkein typerimmän
arvellaan uppoavan kansan aivotursoon. "Kylmyys on syynä muka mehiläisliiton
tunnustamaan jopa -90% todettuun mehiläiskatoon menneeseen vuoteen, tähän-
ja vielä tuleviin kymmeniin kesiin!" ..? .. Öö.. ..? ..Noin hienoa tietää
että vaikka jo +8C lämmössä iloisesti lentelevä amppari puuttuu jo pitkään
+23C kesäpäivistämme niin nyt saatuani "ns. v i r a l l i s e n selityksen
ydinhallinnoltamme" nukun kuin murmeli tulevat ydinkauhuvuosien yöt
punasateitten rummuttaessa henkeä vielä kituvista biotoopeistamme koko
säteilyionisaatioitten vuosikymmenten kertymien raivolla. HIENOA!(
PS. Ja kauhistellen jälleen uuttta TVO/Fortum/Posivan:n ydinvoimalamasiivien
tritiumpäästöjen ja (440kpl käytössä nyt) maailmaamme tuhoavien
ydinvoimaloitten syytämien raskasvesitritiumpäästöjen ja käsiin räjähtävien
beettasoihtujen uhreja myös eläimistössämme. Jo pitkään on ollut tiedossa,
että ydinvoimaloiden 360-kertaistuneet radioaktiiviset tritiumhöyryt yms.
tappavat massoittain näissä lammikoissaan suojatta kutevaa
sammakkoeläimistöä. 23.05.2008 on julistettu maailmanlaajuiseksi
sammakkoeläinten KATASTROFIJULISTUSPÄIVÄKSI!.. ..Mitä tässä jatkuvassa
ydinaavikoitumistuhoterssissä osaa enää sanoa rakkaat lukijani? Niin olen
minä näistä Einsteininkin ennakoimista faktoista oppia antanut määrää
karsastamatta? .. Ehken tarpeeksi, mutta nyt tilanne alkaa olla sellainen,
että meidän JOKAISEN on kertakaikkiaan pakko tehdä omakohtaiset ratkaisut!
Kannattaako alati etenevää ydinteurastusta vai vastustaakko sitä luonnon
mukana? Yhtä kaikki arpa on heitetty. Ydinvoima LÄHTEE!.. Enää luonto kysyy
mielipiteenään asiasta vain yhden kysymyksen. "Ihmiskunnan kanssa, vai
ILMAN!?". .)) )) |
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Valtteri Bergman
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+Fotolisä.
YLE 15.05-08, ilmoitteli varsin äänekkäästi, että TVO/Posivan:n alas ajama
Merentutkimuslaitos on saanut kovasti kannatusta säilyttämisekseen.
Diktatuurinen laitoksen silpoaminen silmittömässä ydinraivossaan on silkkaa
Mao:ta! Ei lainkaan kuulema ymmärretä, miksi ydinhallintomme panikoi
laitoksen ydinlauhdeklumpuamisuutisten selkeän faktan näytön seurauksena
noin silmittömässsä raivossa? Jokainen oivaltaa toki, että pakoileva
ydinrikollisuustoiminta ei haluaisi tulla ilmi. Tapa, ja röyhkeys jolla koko
ydinalan tutkimus keskitetään ennenkokemattomasti "yhden oikean
mielipidediktatuurin taa" koetaan rikoksena demokratiaa vastaan laajasti ja
syvästi!
On päivän selvää, etä sama ydinlöydösten syy oli myös mm. Oulun
mehiläistutkinnan alasajolla helmikuusta. TVO/Posiva/Fortum on nyt
kertakaikkiaan vaan päättänmyt, että ydinalaa suojellaan, vaikka kansa
kuolee TAATUSTI massoittain jatkossa. Oikeastaan kyse on enää siitä paljonko
kaatuu, matonee ja tuhoutuu. Ilmeistä on myös, että tämä ydinhallintotapa on
sama mm. USA:ssa/EU:ssa. Eli vaikka ydinsavijalat on kaikki jo pettäneet
annetaan tuhon ydinaavikoitumisineen jatkua kasvavasti. Tämän tyyppisen
toiminnan motiivit ovat mykistäviä ja kertaavia sokeuden malleja historiasta
löytynee ehkä DDR:n loppuvuosilta. Näin homma siis tulee jatkumaan. Hallinto
jatkaa sumutusta, kunnes kansa , tai itse LUONTO ottaa ohjakset niin
käsiinsä, että koko ydinvaltio-olemus kylmästi kuolee pois!"(
Näin sekä Atsteekikultturi, että mm. myös Einstein ennakoivat, että pohjaan
asti ihmiskunta uppoo ydinharhoineen. Edelleen EN siis povaa minkään
laatuista "mailmanlopua", mutta täytyy sanoa, että suoneniskentä, jonka
näemme jatkossa on vailla vertaa. .. .Siitä merkittävä, että ydinalan
katoamiseen tässä laajasti tähdätään myös luonnon osalta, mikä on ollut jo
ydinaavikoituvassa maailmassamme pitkään kakova selviö. Mutta minua on aina
hämmästyttänyt virannomaistemme ahkeroiva määrätietoinen kiima pimittää
kaikki faktat?! Eli oikeinko hauskaa poliisivirannomaisistamme on peittää
vaan linja-autossamme parhaillaan kauhusta kiljuvan kansan silmät
rotkoonajon lähestyessä hetki hetkeltä? Ilmeisesti "big diilinä" on lähteä
ajatuksesta, että kun ajetaan kansa nälkäkuolemansa partaalle, he eivät ehdi
panna ydinsyyllisiään vastuuseen lähilyhtypylväisiin?.. .Yhtä kaikki
historia on pullollaan tällaista toimintakulttuuria tilanteissa, joissa
hallinnon hallitsemattomuus syytää valtioita tuhoonsa. Nyt vaan menee koko
länsimainen kulttuuri sen sileän tien. No Sikäli kun Einstein ennakoi
maapallomme on ydintuhottuna seuraavat vuosimiljoonat PYSYVÄSTI! ja ketkä
selviää lauttamatkasta voi saada vähemmän mairittelevaa selviytymistä vaikka
tästä mukana seuraavasta Posivan "Ympäristövaikutusten
arviointiselityksestä", joka lupaa nimenomkaan nisäkkäille äkkilähtöä
säteilevästä maailmasta.(( (( |
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Knuje
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On Aug 1, 6:28 am, buckeye <buckeye...@nospam.net> wrote:
| Quote: | RhymeCon," the "Rhyming Conservative
STAMP OUT SEPARATION - of church and statehttp://rhymecon.tripod.com/2/
A real 100% radical right (along the lines of Ken) nitcase
***************************************************************
You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of Americahttp://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Presenthttp://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and Statehttp://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Historical Reality SepChurch&Statehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
***************************************************************
. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
. . .
****************************************************************
USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote
"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
*****************************************************************
THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
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Free Lunch
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:47 pm Post subject: Re: STAMP OUT SEPARATION - of church and state ***** |
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On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:36:45 -0700 (PDT), Knuje
<knujonmapson@hotmail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
| Quote: | On Aug 1, 6:28 am, buckeye <buckeye...@nospam.net> wrote:
RhymeCon," the "Rhyming Conservative
STAMP OUT SEPARATION - of church and statehttp://rhymecon.tripod.com/2/
A real 100% radical right (along the lines of Ken) nitcase
***************************************************************
You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of Americahttp://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Presenthttp://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and Statehttp://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Historical Reality SepChurch&Statehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
***************************************************************
. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
. . .
****************************************************************
USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote
"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
*****************************************************************
THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
****************************************************************
Shall we make Pandeism the official state religion, then?
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Knuje
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:55 pm Post subject: Re: STAMP OUT SEPARATION - of church and state ***** |
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On Aug 1, 11:47 am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:36:45 -0700 (PDT), Knuje
knujonmap...@hotmail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
On Aug 1, 6:28 am, buckeye <buckeye...@nospam.net> wrote:
RhymeCon," the "Rhyming Conservative
STAMP OUT SEPARATION - of church and statehttp://rhymecon.tripod.com/2/
A real 100% radical right (along the lines of Ken) nitcase
***************************************************************
You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of Americahttp://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Presenthttp://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and Statehttp://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Historical Reality SepChurch&Statehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
***************************************************************
. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.)..
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
. . .
****************************************************************
USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote
"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
*****************************************************************
THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
****************************************************************
Shall we makePandeismthe official state religion, then?
If we elect McCain, we can make Panderism the official state religion.
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SkyEyes
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On Aug 1, 8:36 am, Knuje <knujonmap...@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Shall we make Pandeism the official state religion, then?
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Nope. Pastafarianism. I plan to have a worship service tonight, with
a little Farfalle with vodka cream sauce and roast chicken.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
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On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 10:47:06 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:36:45 -0700 (PDT), Knuje
knujonmapson@hotmail.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
On Aug 1, 6:28 am, buckeye <buckeye...@nospam.net> wrote:
RhymeCon," the "Rhyming Conservative
STAMP OUT SEPARATION - of church and statehttp://rhymecon.tripod.com/2/
A real 100% radical right (along the lines of Ken) nitcase
***************************************************************
You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of Americahttp://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Presenthttp://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and Statehttp://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Historical Reality SepChurch&Statehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
***************************************************************
. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
. . .
****************************************************************
USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote
"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
*****************************************************************
THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
****************************************************************
Shall we make Pandeism the official state religion, then?
If we elect McCain, we can make Panderism the official state religion.
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RhymeCon
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On Aug 1, 3:09 pm, SkyEyes <skyey...@cox.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Aug 1, 8:36 am, Knuje <knujonmap...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Shall we make Pandeism the official state religion, then?
Nope. Pastafarianism. I plan to have a worship service tonight, with
a little Farfalle with vodka cream sauce and roast chicken.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net |
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