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 Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:42 am Post subject: Re: God |
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bob young wrote:
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Epi-Sode wrote:
Why do people believe in the fiction of God?
Insecurity
Instinctual need to be member of a cohesive group
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Considering believers to be a "cohesive group" is almost laughable.
Having a major point in common is not cohesive. Many people,
particularly Christians often have very different views than those of
the "cohesive" group they associate with. Belief in God is not reliant
upon being in any particular group. Removed from the group and placed
alone in the field, and the faith should remain.
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A sense of arrogance [the god is theirs so they can speak
on it's behalf]
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This has nothing to do with belief, and everything to do with
personality. You should never take the arrogance of a believer as a
stain on the reputation of The Almighty. This would be akin to
claiming Darwin to be a pompous jerk because of the arrogance of Dawkins.
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An alternative to groveling to political leaders
[they will always be there and so will imaginary gods that
act as a sop to the alternative of groveling to poiticians]
Fear [fear of life and fear of death]
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Freedom from Fear, or at the minimum a way to overcome it regardless of
potency.
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I hope this helps..
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Helps in propagating your personal stereotypes, yes. Helps in
understanding what he has asked? Not likely.
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On Mar 22, 6:36 pm, Gordon <gordonmuir2003goo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
REV.MOON CLAIMS TO BE THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST.
| Quote: | http://kathryncoman.home.att.net/dayinfo/12-1spirit.htm
Rev.Moon married Jesus on January 3,1971
http://kathryncoman.home.att.net/annual/2008.htm
kathryn coman homepage annual calender 2008.
SUBJECT: Korean War Veterans - Rev.Moon Messiah - WWII 1945 -
Universal Peace Federation
Im not a christian or a moonie but i definately know there is a God
and a spirit world because i have been there and communicated directly
with God and i believe Rev.Moon is the Messiah and he and his wife are
the perfected Adam and Eve and True Parents of humankind.
http://www.upkmf.org/ver1eng/_php/about2.php
The United Nations Peace Forces of the Korean War Memorial Federation
(UPKMF) was founded in 2004 by the Reverend and Mrs. Sun Myung Moon.
http://www.ambassadors4peace.org/Newsletters/NewsletterArchives/Oct05...http://www.ambassadors4peace.org/Newsletters/Stories/Oct05/UPKMF2005.htm
VETERANS Join the Ambassadors for Peace Movement
http://www.tparents.org/Library/Unification/Talks/Flynn/Flynn-070729.htm
UPKMF Convention Honoring Korean War Veterans
http://www.iifwp-europe.org/uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=PagEd&file....
Korean Veterans from the UK and fifteen other nations revisit Korea,
24th?29th July 2005.
http://www.iifwp-europe.org/uk/index.php?name=PagEd&page_id=151#IMG32....
Reunion of Korean War Veterans who Revisited Korea Together in July
2005, 2-4th February 2007.
http://65.127.137.224/board/uboard.asp?id=ffwpu_news&skin=board_hq_v2....
"One Family Under God" 12 City USA Peace Tour Report,November 19, 2007
http://archive.upf.org/programs/conferences/wcsf/wcsf2005/index.php?r...
Memorial Federation of the United Nations Peace Forces of the Korean
War meets for its Convention 2005, in Seoul, Korea
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http://www.tparents.org/Moon-Talks/sunmyungmoon94/941222.htm
Failure of christianity to recieve the
Messiah after WWII,1945. Rev.Moon says if
religious and political leaders had recognized him
as the Messiah or the person who knew all the answers
to the worlds problems then Heaven on Earth would of
been built within 7 years by 1952,we are now back in
a re-run of that time period and Rev.Moon says he has
to accomplish his worldwide mission as the Messiah by
2012-january 2013.
http://www.upf.orgUNIVERSAL PEACE FEDERATION,now
part of the United Nations.
http://upf.org/publications/peacekingonline/6.11.htm
Hon. Alexander M. Haig, Jr. U.S. Secretary of State
(1981-82), Supreme Allied Commander, NATO (1975-79)
Young-Cheol Song, Regional Chair
Mark Brann, Regional Secretary General
43 Lancaster Gate
London W2 3NA, Great Britain
Phone: +44-207-723-0721
euro...@upf.org
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The Objective Standard is an organisation that uses reason and deny
any divine plan,fate,predestination in humans lives,i understand why
you are like that,i have had bad experiences with religious people who
abuse there power and teachings to mislead people away from
reason,science,God,i have had that happen to me.
THE PURPOSE THAT God created the physical world is to create seperate
free will and consciousness which is materialised from infinity in the
spirit world,using individual free will and reason is what God wants
but religions who want to control the masses take away peoples freedom
to reason and give God and religion a bad image.
http://www.theobjectivestandard.com/issues/2007-winter/american-victo...
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JOIN AMBASSADORS FOR PEACE and find out from the religious leaders
following Rev.Moon if Rev.Moon is the Messiah.
http://groups.google.com/group/stop-the-war-in-Iraq-now
Rev.Moon Messiah - WWII 1945 - Universal Peace Federation.VERY
IMPORTANT,READ THIS - Renewed United Nations-Rev.Moon Messiah-1960
Holy Wedding.
http://www.sikhnet.com/sikhnet/news.nsf/NewsArchive/00066A5E068433C98...
Dr. Wim Koetsier, general secretary of Universal Peace
Federation UPF-NL is presenting the "Ambassador For
Peace" award to Sardar Bhupinder Singh Holland.
http://www.ambassadors4peace.org
For this reason,the projects founded by Rev. Moon are
not confined to religion, but span every field:
education, philosophy, science, religion, media, the
arts, international affairs, technology, charitable
work, the environment, families, women and youth. The Ambassadors for
Peace initiative is a worldwide
network of leaders from diverse disciplines who work
cooperatively to promote reconciliation and peace.
http://familyfed.org Moonies FFWPU,main website.http://www.trueloveking.net Rev.Moon meets George W.
Bush,Jesus,Buddha,Confucious,Muhammed.
What you see below is just the begining of Rev.Moon being accepted and
he will be announced worldwide as the Messiah and he and his wife as
the perfected Adam and Eve by political and religious leaders on
january 2013,this will be the greatest event in all history since the
time of Adam and Eve,so you just have to wait until january 2013 to
see if this is all true.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=118038&title=mo....
TV Video,The Daily Show - Rev.Moon Senate Crowning.
Rev.Moon announcing that he is the Messiah,Returning Lord and True
Parent of all humankind.
http://www.iapprovethismessiah.com/2004/06/this-really-happened-at-se...
This really happened at the Senate office building,Rev.Moon being
crowned attended by congressmen and religious leaders.
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Sun_Myung_Moon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_in_Divine_Principle
Rev.Moon says,"the world is historicaly fated to make
a political transition from democracy to the
Unificationist ideal of the Kingdom of Heaven
religious monarchy",
"once established it will remain as an eternal state"
"therefore Christ at the second advent will remedy the
illness of the present political system","This will
unleash societies true potential".
The True Parents and messiah's main mission is to change the lineage
of humankind from the imperfect lineage of Adam,Eve,Lucifer(Satan)
which everyone has inherited to the perfect lineage of God,this will
end all disease,war,poverty and everyone born in the future from
perfect lineages will give birth to children who are all on the
highest Messiah's level and one with God EACH ONE ALL EQUAL MESSIAH'S
this process will increase after january 2013 until the world is full
of perfect people.
On Feb 21, 7:17 pm, jerusalem...@yahoo.com wrote:
The article:
"Why Jehovah's Witnesses are wrong in believing that
the Second Coming of Christ happened in 1914, and that
Jerusalem was destroyed in 607 B.C.E." can be found here:
http://jonathan.freehyperspace.com/index.html
Please link to this site if appropriate.
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| Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:42 pm Post subject: Funeral Ascension of Hyo Jin Nim and Seunghwa Ceremony - Rev |
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On Mar 22, 6:29 pm, Gordon <gordonmuir2003goo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ascension of Hyo Jin Nim and Seunghwa Ceremony - Rev.Moon son Hyo Jin
Moon has died of heart attackhttp://www.familyfed.org/board/uboard.asp?id=ffwpu_news&skin=board_hq...
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Official Memo: Ascension of Hyo Jin Moonhttp://www.familyfed.org/board/uboard.asp?id=announcements2007&skin=b...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hyo_Jin_Moon
http://www.unification.net/hyojinmoon/HyoJinNimAscension_20080317.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nan_sook_hong
Nansook Hong had divorced Hyo Jin Moon who then
married Yun Ah.http://home.att.net/~newlineage/hyojin.htm
http://www.familyfed.org/board/uboard.asp?id=tp_news&u_no=739
Birthday Celebrations for Hyo Jin Nim's Children -
Shin Chul Nim's 6th & Shin Soon Nim's 1st
http://www.ffwpu.asn.au/moonfamily/hyojinmoon/index.htm#bio
In Memory of Hyo Jin Moon.
http://familyfed.org Moonies FFWPU,main website.http://www.trueloveking.netRev.Moon with George W.
Bush.http://www.reverendsunmyungmoon.org/works_sports.html
Rev.Moon with famous football player Pele.
http://kathryncoman.home.att.net/dayinfo/12-1spirit.htm
Rev.Moon married Jesus on January 3,1971 but no
spiritualists outside of the moonies have confirmed
this.
http://kathryncoman.home.att.net/annual/2008.htm
kathryn coman homepage annual calender 2008.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BlessedCommunityAssociation-Mindanao/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BlessedCommunityAssociation-Mindanao/me...
Heung Jin Nim - Satan is the master of lies.
THE PROBLEM WITH THE MOONIES IS there organisation is
full of liars,decievers,misleaders and they dont seem
to associate there lying with Satan and they never
apologies when they mess up someones life with lies
and deception which is VERY CONTRADICTORY CONFUSING
BEHAVIOUR,which is sad because if it was not for the
liars,decievers,misleaders the legitimate side of the
moonies could of done great things for the world by
now. - comment by me Gordon Muir.
http://www.ffwpui.org/SW
Heung Jim Nim is Rev.Moons son who died in 1984 who
Rev.Moon says is the commander in chief of the entire
spirit world but no spiritualists outside of the
moonies have confirmed this.
http://www.geocities.com/craigmaxim/s-2a.html
Heung Jin Nim posseses black Africans body.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heung_Jin_Moonhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Heung_Jin_Nim
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=118038&title=mo....
TV Video,The Daily Show - Rev.Moon Senate Crowning.
Rev.Moon announcing that he is the Messiah,Returning
Lord and True Parent of all humankind.
http://www.iapprovethismessiah.com/2004/06/this-really-happened-at-se...
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building,Rev.Moon being crowned attended by
congressmen and religious leaders.
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Sun_Myung_Moon |
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Gordon
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| Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:45 pm Post subject: Funeral Ascension of Hyo Jin Nim and Seunghwa Ceremony - Rev |
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On Mar 22, 6:29 pm, Gordon <gordonmuir2003goo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ascension of Hyo Jin Nim and Seunghwa Ceremony - Rev.Moon son Hyo Jin
Moon has died of heart attack
http://www.familyfed.org/board/uboard.asp?id=ffwpu_news&skin=board_hq...
Official Memo: Ascension of Hyo Jin Moon
http://www.familyfed.org/board/uboard.asp?id=announcements2007&skin=b...
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hyo_Jin_Moon
http://www.unification.net/hyojinmoon/HyoJinNimAscension_20080317.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nan_sook_hong
Nansook Hong had divorced Hyo Jin Moon who then
married Yun Ah.http://home.att.net/~newlineage/hyojin.htm
http://www.familyfed.org/board/uboard.asp?id=tp_news&u_no=739
Birthday Celebrations for Hyo Jin Nim's Children -
Shin Chul Nim's 6th & Shin Soon Nim's 1st
http://www.ffwpu.asn.au/moonfamily/hyojinmoon/index.htm#bio
In Memory of Hyo Jin Moon.
http://familyfed.org Moonies FFWPU,main website. |
http://www.trueloveking.netRev.Moon with George W. Bush.
http://www.reverendsunmyungmoon.org/works_sports.html
Rev.Moon with famous football player Pele.
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http://kathryncoman.home.att.net/dayinfo/12-1spirit.htm
Rev.Moon married Jesus on January 3,1971 but no
spiritualists outside of the moonies have confirmed
this.
http://kathryncoman.home.att.net/annual/2008.htm
kathryn coman homepage annual calender 2008.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BlessedCommunityAssociation-Mindanao/ |
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BlessedCommunityAssociation-Mindanao/me...
| Quote: | Heung Jin Nim - Satan is the master of lies.
THE PROBLEM WITH THE MOONIES IS there organisation is
full of liars,decievers,misleaders and they dont seem
to associate there lying with Satan and they never
apologies when they mess up someones life with lies
and deception which is VERY CONTRADICTORY CONFUSING
BEHAVIOUR,which is sad because if it was not for the
liars,decievers,misleaders the legitimate side of the
moonies could of done great things for the world by
now. - comment by me Gordon Muir.
http://www.ffwpui.org/SW
Heung Jim Nim is Rev.Moons son who died in 1984 who
Rev.Moon says is the commander in chief of the entire
spirit world but no spiritualists outside of the
moonies have confirmed this.
http://www.geocities.com/craigmaxim/s-2a.html
Heung Jin Nim posseses black Africans body.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heung_Jin_Moonhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Heung_Jin_Nim
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=118038&title=mo....
TV Video,The Daily Show - Rev.Moon Senate Crowning.
Rev.Moon announcing that he is the Messiah,Returning
Lord and True Parent of all humankind.
http://www.iapprovethismessiah.com/2004/06/this-really-happened-at-se...
This really happened at the Senate office
building,Rev.Moon being crowned attended by
congressmen and religious leaders.
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Sun_Myung_Moon |
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Roger Coppock
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| Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:21 pm Post subject: Re: Jesus WAS the Last Supper |
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On Mar 24, 1:37 am, "Peter Terry" <momba...@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "Peter Terry" <momba...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Was Jesus ritually sacrificed by a primitive cannibal cult and who after
having killed off his original movement, then went on to form Roman
Christianity from which today's churches are spiritual extensions off?
There is compelling evidence that the man who was thought to be Jesus did
not die on a cross but died like a lamb to slaughter in an horrific death
by
human sacrifice at the hands of a fanatical religious fundamentalist blood
cult, who not only drank his blood and ate his vital body parts, but went
on
to become the foundations of Christianity.
The foundations and dogma of Christianity was manufactured by this same
group led by the first anti-Christ, St. Paul. St. Paul played a dominant
hand in this abhorrent original act of ritual cannibalism, not only in
Jesus'
betrayal and death, but in the violent genocide of the first groups who
had
been loyal to Jesus and given him shelter. The teachings of Jesus were
plagiarised by this violent fanatical blood cult, who went on to overlay
their own primitive pagan religious traditions over his teachings, out of
which Christianity was eventually officially nationalised around the
period
that the tyrant Roman Emperor Constantine officiated the Council of Nicea
325AD.
The Romans accused the early gentile Christians of cannibalism, because
there were. And this abhorrent practice even continues today. Ritual
cannibalism is practiced symbolically in the "mass" and "holy communion"
of
the Roman Catholic Church.
The gospels in today's bible only contain a fraction of what Jesus said,
as
most of his beliefs are buried behind primitive religious pagan mythology,
these orchestrated by a myriad of copyists and scribes aligned to the
Roman
Christian Catholic Church of the old Roman Empire. Church dogma such as
baptism, holy communion or subtranstantiation, virgin births,
resurrection,
crucifiction, 12 apostles, miracles, blood as a sacrament, human
sacrifice,
god-kings as creators, heaven and earth, royal bloodlines, satan and the
devil, claims of godhead, fixed wing angels, atonement, the rapture, the
trinity and purgatory, demon possession, adam and eve, are all models that
were plagiarised from a plethora of pagan myths from cults which existed
before the times of Jesus. The Gospels are a collection of sayings by
Jesus
and others, who have been rewritten over a period of time into classical
pagan storylines using models of theology or doctrine from many primitive
saviour cults of antiquity such as Mithras, most of which was never
supported by Jesus anyway.
Through enacting certain spiritual knowledge one may remove the layers of
ritual misinformation in the gospels to unearth the truth behind the
original story of Christ and the reformed hippie styled Nazarene-Essene
movement that supported him.
Fortuitously, Jesus actually predicted all of the above.
These ideas are supported by: the Canonical Gospels and the account of the
crucifiction, New and Old Testament, biblical prophesy, the book of
revelations, Jewish- Roman and western history, by anthropology and
archaeology, by Christian doctrine- its pageantry and religious rituals,
from the blood soaked writings of the "early church fathers", by the
behavioural history of the ancient popes and saints, by the history of
primitive religions and prehistoric cultures, known symbols from the very
first Christians and by new theories on how "reincarnation and cosmic
memory" enable the tracking of the evolution of the soul .
"Father forgive them for they now not what they do"
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Why do Christians chow down on Jesus Christ. They eat him and drink
his blood.
Ritual cannibalism is a primitive conceptual view of ones spirituality,
which came out of the minds of stone-age people who were without any
sciences to assist them understand the meaning of life. This lack of
intellect heralded the advent of all pagan cultures of the world worshiping
the sun as a god, when they realised its significance to survival and the
growing of crops. It was also why the primitives elevated blood as a "holy
sacrament" when they realised that when a person was wounded and blood
flowed and he died- they incorrectly deduced from this experience that blood
must be the godly basis of life force, thus it was worshiped accordingly.
The Christian name ritual cannibalism is the religious experience of
transubstantiation. The historian Durant said that transubstantiation or
ritual human sacrifice is as old as civilization itself. In fact at some
point in history every culture of the world partook in human sacrifice or
various derivatives of it. Even today in South Pacific, Papua New Guinea
some people eat their victims to acquire their power. This practice is also
partaken in Africa as we speak. "The mindless conclusion to this thinking is
that to eat the flesh and to drink the blood of one who is considered
powerful, godly or a king, then their power or wisdom will be transferred to
the sacrificers." As intelligence evolved and the people in the world became
more civilised and the early Pauline Christians could no longer get away
with eating their religious victims, which they did secretly in the
Catacombs and caves of Rome and the empire, these archaic practices became
symbolic rather than practical. Thus was manufactured the practice of
transubstantiation where wine replaced the blood of Jesus and bread his
body. In this manner Jesus himself could be feasted upon by the whole
Christian congregation. This new application of a bloodless Eucharist
format enabled the Catholic Church to come out of the closet and to stop
Christians from killing people so that they could then drink their blood and
feast upon their bodies. Hence the early Roman version of the religion was
more palatable and easier to sell to a Roman-gentile audience.
In the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox systems, Holy Communion or Eucharist,
to celebrate Jesus' human sacrifice some 2000 years ago, is symbolically
partaken in the form of bread or a wafer. Holy Communion is distributed by
the officiating priest after the re-enactment of Jesus' violent slaying in
Voodoo or black magic styled pageant called the Mass. Here the priest
performs hocus-pocus and deludes the congregation into believing that he's
changed wine and bread into Jesus' blood and body. Tradionally at communion
time, only the priest gets to drink the blood of Jesus while the rest of the
congregation is given his body to eat. This reflects the 2000 year event,
when the man thought to be Jesus was ritually cannibalised and only the few
officiating high priests (Popes or Pater Patrums, inner circle) were
sufficiently privileged to drink his warm blood. The next hierarchical
level equivalent to Priests and Bishops eat his vital body parts while the
rest of his body was divvied up amongst the lay followers, boiled in big
pots and shared amongst the large congregation of the sect. Mithras
followers the world over, like the Catholic Church, have a three tiered
hierarchy of a pope (Pater Partum), bishops and priests.
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Can I play too?
"And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your
daughters shall ye eat" (Lev. 26:29)
"I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of
their daughters, and they shall eat every one the flesh of his
friend...." (Jer. 19:9)
"I will make your oppressors eat their own flesh, and they shall be
drunk with their own blood as with wine" (Isa. 49:26 RSV)
"Therefore fathers shall eat their sons in the midst of you, and sons
shall eat their fathers..." (Ezek. 5:10).
"So we boiled my son, and ate him. And on the next day I said to her,
`Give your son, that we may eat him.' but she has hidden her son" (2
Kings 6:28-29 RSV)
"The hands of compassionate women have boiled their own children; they
became their food...." (Lam. 4:10 RSV)
"What is to die, let it die; what is to be destroyed, let it be
destroyed; and those that are left devour the flesh of one
another" (Zech. 11:9 RSV)
"They snatch of the right, but are still hungry, and they devour on
the left, but are not satisfied; each devours his neighbor's
flesh" (Isa. 9:20 RSV)
"you shall eat the offspring of your own body, the flesh of your sons
and daughters ... The man who is the most tender and delicately bred
among you will grudge food to his brother, to the wife of his
bosom, ... so that he will not give to any of them any of the flesh of
his children whom he is eating ... The most tender and delicately bred
woman among you...will grudge to the husband of her bosom...her
children whom she bears, because she will eat them
secretly,..." (Deut. 28:53-57 RSV).
"Who hate the good, and love the evil; who pluck off their skin from
off them, and their flesh from off their bones;
Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off
them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the
pot, and as flesh within the caldron. (Mica 3:2-3)
In addition, there are statements by Jesus which some Christians have
chosen to spiritualize, while others interpret them literally:
"Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of
man, and drink his blood, ye shall have no life in you. Whoso eateth
my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise
him up at the last day" (John 6:53-54)
"as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it and broke it,
and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take eat; this is my body. And
he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink
ye all of it; For this is my blood..." (Matt. 26:26-28, Luke 22:19-20,
Mark 14:22-24, 1 Cor.
11:24-26)
"He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me and I
in him.... So he that eateth me, even he shall live by me" (John
6:56-57).
"I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice,
saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and
gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; That ye
may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh
of mighty men.--Rev.19:17-18
GEE! All this cannibalism is sick!
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Peter Terry
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"Peter Terry" <mombassa@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Was Jesus ritually sacrificed by a primitive cannibal cult and who after
having killed off his original movement, then went on to form Roman
Christianity from which today's churches are spiritual extensions off?
There is compelling evidence that the man who was thought to be Jesus did
not die on a cross but died like a lamb to slaughter in an horrific death
by
human sacrifice at the hands of a fanatical religious fundamentalist blood
cult, who not only drank his blood and ate his vital body parts, but went
on
to become the foundations of Christianity.
The foundations and dogma of Christianity was manufactured by this same
group led by the first anti-Christ, St. Paul. St. Paul played a dominant
hand in this abhorrent original act of ritual cannibalism, not only in
Jesus'
betrayal and death, but in the violent genocide of the first groups who
had
been loyal to Jesus and given him shelter. The teachings of Jesus were
plagiarised by this violent fanatical blood cult, who went on to overlay
their own primitive pagan religious traditions over his teachings, out of
which Christianity was eventually officially nationalised around the
period
that the tyrant Roman Emperor Constantine officiated the Council of Nicea
325AD.
The Romans accused the early gentile Christians of cannibalism, because
there were. And this abhorrent practice even continues today. Ritual
cannibalism is practiced symbolically in the "mass" and "holy communion"
of
the Roman Catholic Church.
The gospels in today's bible only contain a fraction of what Jesus said,
as
most of his beliefs are buried behind primitive religious pagan mythology,
these orchestrated by a myriad of copyists and scribes aligned to the
Roman
Christian Catholic Church of the old Roman Empire. Church dogma such as
baptism, holy communion or subtranstantiation, virgin births,
resurrection,
crucifiction, 12 apostles, miracles, blood as a sacrament, human
sacrifice,
god-kings as creators, heaven and earth, royal bloodlines, satan and the
devil, claims of godhead, fixed wing angels, atonement, the rapture, the
trinity and purgatory, demon possession, adam and eve, are all models that
were plagiarised from a plethora of pagan myths from cults which existed
before the times of Jesus. The Gospels are a collection of sayings by
Jesus
and others, who have been rewritten over a period of time into classical
pagan storylines using models of theology or doctrine from many primitive
saviour cults of antiquity such as Mithras, most of which was never
supported by Jesus anyway.
Through enacting certain spiritual knowledge one may remove the layers of
ritual misinformation in the gospels to unearth the truth behind the
original story of Christ and the reformed hippie styled Nazarene-Essene
movement that supported him.
Fortuitously, Jesus actually predicted all of the above.
These ideas are supported by: the Canonical Gospels and the account of the
crucifiction, New and Old Testament, biblical prophesy, the book of
revelations, Jewish- Roman and western history, by anthropology and
archaeology, by Christian doctrine- its pageantry and religious rituals,
from the blood soaked writings of the "early church fathers", by the
behavioural history of the ancient popes and saints, by the history of
primitive religions and prehistoric cultures, known symbols from the very
first Christians and by new theories on how "reincarnation and cosmic
memory" enable the tracking of the evolution of the soul .
"Father forgive them for they now not what they do"
WATCH THIS SPACE
Peter Terry
http://www.myspace.com/nambassa
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Why do Christians chow down on Jesus Christ. They eat him and drink
his blood.
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Ritual cannibalism is a primitive conceptual view of ones spirituality,
which came out of the minds of stone-age people who were without any
sciences to assist them understand the meaning of life. This lack of
intellect heralded the advent of all pagan cultures of the world worshiping
the sun as a god, when they realised its significance to survival and the
growing of crops. It was also why the primitives elevated blood as a "holy
sacrament" when they realised that when a person was wounded and blood
flowed and he died- they incorrectly deduced from this experience that blood
must be the godly basis of life force, thus it was worshiped accordingly.
The Christian name ritual cannibalism is the religious experience of
transubstantiation. The historian Durant said that transubstantiation or
ritual human sacrifice is as old as civilization itself. In fact at some
point in history every culture of the world partook in human sacrifice or
various derivatives of it. Even today in South Pacific, Papua New Guinea
some people eat their victims to acquire their power. This practice is also
partaken in Africa as we speak. "The mindless conclusion to this thinking is
that to eat the flesh and to drink the blood of one who is considered
powerful, godly or a king, then their power or wisdom will be transferred to
the sacrificers." As intelligence evolved and the people in the world became
more civilised and the early Pauline Christians could no longer get away
with eating their religious victims, which they did secretly in the
Catacombs and caves of Rome and the empire, these archaic practices became
symbolic rather than practical. Thus was manufactured the practice of
transubstantiation where wine replaced the blood of Jesus and bread his
body. In this manner Jesus himself could be feasted upon by the whole
Christian congregation. This new application of a bloodless Eucharist
format enabled the Catholic Church to come out of the closet and to stop
Christians from killing people so that they could then drink their blood and
feast upon their bodies. Hence the early Roman version of the religion was
more palatable and easier to sell to a Roman-gentile audience.
In the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox systems, Holy Communion or Eucharist,
to celebrate Jesus' human sacrifice some 2000 years ago, is symbolically
partaken in the form of bread or a wafer. Holy Communion is distributed by
the officiating priest after the re-enactment of Jesus' violent slaying in
Voodoo or black magic styled pageant called the Mass. Here the priest
performs hocus-pocus and deludes the congregation into believing that he's
changed wine and bread into Jesus' blood and body. Tradionally at communion
time, only the priest gets to drink the blood of Jesus while the rest of the
congregation is given his body to eat. This reflects the 2000 year event,
when the man thought to be Jesus was ritually cannibalised and only the few
officiating high priests (Popes or Pater Patrums, inner circle) were
sufficiently privileged to drink his warm blood. The next hierarchical
level equivalent to Priests and Bishops eat his vital body parts while the
rest of his body was divvied up amongst the lay followers, boiled in big
pots and shared amongst the large congregation of the sect. Mithras
followers the world over, like the Catholic Church, have a three tiered
hierarchy of a pope (Pater Partum), bishops and priests.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:53 pm Post subject: Re: Jesus WAS the Last Supper |
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On Mar 24, 1:21 pm, Roger Coppock <rcopp...@adnc.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Mar 24, 1:37 am, "Peter Terry" <momba...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Peter Terry" <momba...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:81HEj.999$n8.645@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Was Jesus ritually sacrificed by a primitive cannibal cult and who after
having killed off his original movement, then went on to form Roman
Christianity from which today's churches are spiritual extensions off?
There is compelling evidence that the man who was thought to be Jesus did
not die on a cross but died like a lamb to slaughter in an horrific death
by
human sacrifice at the hands of a fanatical religious fundamentalist blood
cult, who not only drank his blood and ate his vital body parts, but went
on
to become the foundations of Christianity.
The foundations and dogma of Christianity was manufactured by this same
group led by the first anti-Christ, St. Paul. St. Paul played a dominant
hand in this abhorrent original act of ritual cannibalism, not only in
Jesus'
betrayal and death, but in the violent genocide of the first groups who
had
been loyal to Jesus and given him shelter. The teachings of Jesus were
plagiarised by this violent fanatical blood cult, who went on to overlay
their own primitive pagan religious traditions over his teachings, out of
which Christianity was eventually officially nationalised around the
period
that the tyrant Roman Emperor Constantine officiated the Council of Nicea
325AD.
The Romans accused the early gentile Christians of cannibalism, because
there were. And this abhorrent practice even continues today. Ritual
cannibalism is practiced symbolically in the "mass" and "holy communion"
of
the Roman Catholic Church.
The gospels in today's bible only contain a fraction of what Jesus said,
as
most of his beliefs are buried behind primitive religious pagan mythology,
these orchestrated by a myriad of copyists and scribes aligned to the
Roman
Christian Catholic Church of the old Roman Empire. Church dogma such as
baptism, holy communion or subtranstantiation, virgin births,
resurrection,
crucifiction, 12 apostles, miracles, blood as a sacrament, human
sacrifice,
god-kings as creators, heaven and earth, royal bloodlines, satan and the
devil, claims of godhead, fixed wing angels, atonement, the rapture, the
trinity and purgatory, demon possession, adam and eve, are all models that
were plagiarised from a plethora of pagan myths from cults which existed
before the times of Jesus. The Gospels are a collection of sayings by
Jesus
and others, who have been rewritten over a period of time into classical
pagan storylines using models of theology or doctrine from many primitive
saviour cults of antiquity such as Mithras, most of which was never
supported by Jesus anyway.
Through enacting certain spiritual knowledge one may remove the layers of
ritual misinformation in the gospels to unearth the truth behind the
original story of Christ and the reformed hippie styled Nazarene-Essene
movement that supported him.
Fortuitously, Jesus actually predicted all of the above.
These ideas are supported by: the Canonical Gospels and the account of the
crucifiction, New and Old Testament, biblical prophesy, the book of
revelations, Jewish- Roman and western history, by anthropology and
archaeology, by Christian doctrine- its pageantry and religious rituals,
from the blood soaked writings of the "early church fathers", by the
behavioural history of the ancient popes and saints, by the history of
primitive religions and prehistoric cultures, known symbols from the very
first Christians and by new theories on how "reincarnation and cosmic
memory" enable the tracking of the evolution of the soul .
"Father forgive them for they now not what they do"
WATCH THIS SPACE
Peter Terry
http://www.myspace.com/nambassa
"NefeshBarYohai" <tach...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eadaa656->c35b-4912-a132-b84b40cdc__BEGIN_MASK_n#9g02mG7!__...__END_MASK_i?a63jfAD$__BEGIN_MASK_n#9g02mG7!__...__END_MASK_i?a63jfAD$z__@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
Why do Christians chow down on Jesus Christ. They eat him and drink
his blood.
Ritual cannibalism is a primitive conceptual view of ones spirituality,
which came out of the minds of stone-age people who were without any
sciences to assist them understand the meaning of life. This lack of
intellect heralded the advent of all pagan cultures of the world worshiping
the sun as a god, when they realised its significance to survival and the
growing of crops. It was also why the primitives elevated blood as a "holy
sacrament" when they realised that when a person was wounded and blood
flowed and he died- they incorrectly deduced from this experience that blood
must be the godly basis of life force, thus it was worshiped accordingly..
The Christian name ritual cannibalism is the religious experience of
transubstantiation. The historian Durant said that transubstantiation or
ritual human sacrifice is as old as civilization itself. In fact at some
point in history every culture of the world partook in human sacrifice or
various derivatives of it. Even today in South Pacific, Papua New Guinea
some people eat their victims to acquire their power. This practice is also
partaken in Africa as we speak. "The mindless conclusion to this thinking is
that to eat the flesh and to drink the blood of one who is considered
powerful, godly or a king, then their power or wisdom will be transferred to
the sacrificers." As intelligence evolved and the people in the world became
more civilised and the early Pauline Christians could no longer get away
with eating their religious victims, which they did secretly in the
Catacombs and caves of Rome and the empire, these archaic practices became
symbolic rather than practical. Thus was manufactured the practice of
transubstantiation where wine replaced the blood of Jesus and bread his
body. In this manner Jesus himself could be feasted upon by the whole
Christian congregation. This new application of a bloodless Eucharist
format enabled the Catholic Church to come out of the closet and to stop
Christians from killing people so that they could then drink their blood and
feast upon their bodies. Hence the early Roman version of the religion was
more palatable and easier to sell to a Roman-gentile audience.
In the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox systems, Holy Communion or Eucharist,
to celebrate Jesus' human sacrifice some 2000 years ago, is symbolically
partaken in the form of bread or a wafer. Holy Communion is distributed by
the officiating priest after the re-enactment of Jesus' violent slaying in
Voodoo or black magic styled pageant called the Mass. Here the priest
performs hocus-pocus and deludes the congregation into believing that he's
changed wine and bread into Jesus' blood and body. Tradionally at communion
time, only the priest gets to drink the blood of Jesus while the rest of the
congregation is given his body to eat. This reflects the 2000 year event,
when the man thought to be Jesus was ritually cannibalised and only the few
officiating high priests (Popes or Pater Patrums, inner circle) were
sufficiently privileged to drink his warm blood. The next hierarchical
level equivalent to Priests and Bishops eat his vital body parts while the
rest of his body was divvied up amongst the lay followers, boiled in big
pots and shared amongst the large congregation of the sect. Mithras
followers the world over, like the Catholic Church, have a three tiered
hierarchy of a pope (Pater Partum), bishops and priests.
PeterT
Can I play too?
"And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your
daughters shall ye eat" (Lev. 26:29)
"I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of
their daughters, and they shall eat every one the flesh of his
friend...." (Jer. 19:9)
"I will make your oppressors eat their own flesh, and they shall be
drunk with their own blood as with wine" (Isa. 49:26 RSV)
"Therefore fathers shall eat their sons in the midst of you, and sons
shall eat their fathers..." (Ezek. 5:10).
"So we boiled my son, and ate him. And on the next day I said to her,
`Give your son, that we may eat him.' but she has hidden her son" (2
Kings 6:28-29 RSV)
"The hands of compassionate women have boiled their own children; they
became their food...." (Lam. 4:10 RSV)
"What is to die, let it die; what is to be destroyed, let it be
destroyed; and those that are left devour the flesh of one
another" (Zech. 11:9 RSV)
"They snatch of the right, but are still hungry, and they devour on
the left, but are not satisfied; each devours his neighbor's
flesh" (Isa. 9:20 RSV)
"you shall eat the offspring of your own body, the flesh of your sons
and daughters ... The man who is the most tender and delicately bred
among you will grudge food to his brother, to the wife of his
bosom, ... so that he will not give to any of them any of the flesh of
his children whom he is eating ... The most tender and delicately bred
woman among you...will grudge to the husband of her bosom...her
children whom she bears, because she will eat them
secretly,..." (Deut. 28:53-57 RSV).
"Who hate the good, and love the evil; who pluck off their skin from
off them, and their flesh from off their bones;
Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off
them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the
pot, and as flesh within the caldron. (Mica 3:2-3)
In addition, there are statements by Jesus which some Christians have
chosen to spiritualize, while others interpret them literally:
"Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of
man, and drink his blood, ye shall have no life in you. ...
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| Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:55 pm Post subject: Re: Jesus WAS the Last Supper |
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On Mar 24, 1:21 pm, Roger Coppock <rcopp...@adnc.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Mar 24, 1:37 am, "Peter Terry" <momba...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Peter Terry" <momba...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:81HEj.999$n8.645@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Was Jesus ritually sacrificed by a primitive cannibal cult and who after
having killed off his original movement, then went on to form Roman
Christianity from which today's churches are spiritual extensions off?
There is compelling evidence that the man who was thought to be Jesus did
not die on a cross but died like a lamb to slaughter in an horrific death
by
human sacrifice at the hands of a fanatical religious fundamentalist blood
cult, who not only drank his blood and ate his vital body parts, but went
on
to become the foundations of Christianity.
The foundations and dogma of Christianity was manufactured by this same
group led by the first anti-Christ, St. Paul. St. Paul played a dominant
hand in this abhorrent original act of ritual cannibalism, not only in
Jesus'
betrayal and death, but in the violent genocide of the first groups who
had
been loyal to Jesus and given him shelter. The teachings of Jesus were
plagiarised by this violent fanatical blood cult, who went on to overlay
their own primitive pagan religious traditions over his teachings, out of
which Christianity was eventually officially nationalised around the
period
that the tyrant Roman Emperor Constantine officiated the Council of Nicea
325AD.
The Romans accused the early gentile Christians of cannibalism, because
there were. And this abhorrent practice even continues today. Ritual
cannibalism is practiced symbolically in the "mass" and "holy communion"
of
the Roman Catholic Church.
The gospels in today's bible only contain a fraction of what Jesus said,
as
most of his beliefs are buried behind primitive religious pagan mythology,
these orchestrated by a myriad of copyists and scribes aligned to the
Roman
Christian Catholic Church of the old Roman Empire. Church dogma such as
baptism, holy communion or subtranstantiation, virgin births,
resurrection,
crucifiction, 12 apostles, miracles, blood as a sacrament, human
sacrifice,
god-kings as creators, heaven and earth, royal bloodlines, satan and the
devil, claims of godhead, fixed wing angels, atonement, the rapture, the
trinity and purgatory, demon possession, adam and eve, are all models that
were plagiarised from a plethora of pagan myths from cults which existed
before the times of Jesus. The Gospels are a collection of sayings by
Jesus
and others, who have been rewritten over a period of time into classical
pagan storylines using models of theology or doctrine from many primitive
saviour cults of antiquity such as Mithras, most of which was never
supported by Jesus anyway.
Through enacting certain spiritual knowledge one may remove the layers of
ritual misinformation in the gospels to unearth the truth behind the
original story of Christ and the reformed hippie styled Nazarene-Essene
movement that supported him.
Fortuitously, Jesus actually predicted all of the above.
These ideas are supported by: the Canonical Gospels and the account of the
crucifiction, New and Old Testament, biblical prophesy, the book of
revelations, Jewish- Roman and western history, by anthropology and
archaeology, by Christian doctrine- its pageantry and religious rituals,
from the blood soaked writings of the "early church fathers", by the
behavioural history of the ancient popes and saints, by the history of
primitive religions and prehistoric cultures, known symbols from the very
first Christians and by new theories on how "reincarnation and cosmic
memory" enable the tracking of the evolution of the soul .
"Father forgive them for they now not what they do"
WATCH THIS SPACE
Peter Terry
http://www.myspace.com/nambassa
"NefeshBarYohai" <tach...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eadaa656->c35b-4912-a132-b84b40cdc__BEGIN_MASK_n#9g02mG7!__...__END_MASK_i?a63jfAD$__BEGIN_MASK_n#9g02mG7!__...__END_MASK_i?a63jfAD$z__@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
Why do Christians chow down on Jesus Christ. They eat him and drink
his blood.
Ritual cannibalism is a primitive conceptual view of ones spirituality,
which came out of the minds of stone-age people who were without any
sciences to assist them understand the meaning of life. This lack of
intellect heralded the advent of all pagan cultures of the world worshiping
the sun as a god, when they realised its significance to survival and the
growing of crops. It was also why the primitives elevated blood as a "holy
sacrament" when they realised that when a person was wounded and blood
flowed and he died- they incorrectly deduced from this experience that blood
must be the godly basis of life force, thus it was worshiped accordingly.
The Christian name ritual cannibalism is the religious experience of
transubstantiation. The historian Durant said that transubstantiation or
ritual human sacrifice is as old as civilization itself. In fact at some
point in history every culture of the world partook in human sacrifice or
various derivatives of it. Even today in South Pacific, Papua New Guinea
some people eat their victims to acquire their power. This practice is also
partaken in Africa as we speak. "The mindless conclusion to this thinking is
that to eat the flesh and to drink the blood of one who is considered
powerful, godly or a king, then their power or wisdom will be transferred to
the sacrificers." As intelligence evolved and the people in the world became
more civilised and the early Pauline Christians could no longer get away
with eating their religious victims, which they did secretly in the
Catacombs and caves of Rome and the empire, these archaic practices became
symbolic rather than practical. Thus was manufactured the practice of
transubstantiation where wine replaced the blood of Jesus and bread his
body. In this manner Jesus himself could be feasted upon by the whole
Christian congregation. This new application of a bloodless Eucharist
format enabled the Catholic Church to come out of the closet and to stop
Christians from killing people so that they could then drink their blood and
feast upon their bodies. Hence the early Roman version of the religion was
more palatable and easier to sell to a Roman-gentile audience.
In the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox systems, Holy Communion or Eucharist,
to celebrate Jesus' human sacrifice some 2000 years ago, is symbolically
partaken in the form of bread or a wafer. Holy Communion is distributed by
the officiating priest after the re-enactment of Jesus' violent slaying in
Voodoo or black magic styled pageant called the Mass. Here the priest
performs hocus-pocus and deludes the congregation into believing that he's
changed wine and bread into Jesus' blood and body. Tradionally at communion
time, only the priest gets to drink the blood of Jesus while the rest of the
congregation is given his body to eat. This reflects the 2000 year event,
when the man thought to be Jesus was ritually cannibalised and only the few
officiating high priests (Popes or Pater Patrums, inner circle) were
sufficiently privileged to drink his warm blood. The next hierarchical
level equivalent to Priests and Bishops eat his vital body parts while the
rest of his body was divvied up amongst the lay followers, boiled in big
pots and shared amongst the large congregation of the sect. Mithras
followers the world over, like the Catholic Church, have a three tiered
hierarchy of a pope (Pater Partum), bishops and priests.
PeterT
Can I play too?
"And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your
daughters shall ye eat" (Lev. 26:29)
"I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of
their daughters, and they shall eat every one the flesh of his
friend...." (Jer. 19:9)
"I will make your oppressors eat their own flesh, and they shall be
drunk with their own blood as with wine" (Isa. 49:26 RSV)
"Therefore fathers shall eat their sons in the midst of you, and sons
shall eat their fathers..." (Ezek. 5:10).
"So we boiled my son, and ate him. And on the next day I said to her,
`Give your son, that we may eat him.' but she has hidden her son" (2
Kings 6:28-29 RSV)
"The hands of compassionate women have boiled their own children; they
became their food...." (Lam. 4:10 RSV)
"What is to die, let it die; what is to be destroyed, let it be
destroyed; and those that are left devour the flesh of one
another" (Zech. 11:9 RSV)
"They snatch of the right, but are still hungry, and they devour on
the left, but are not satisfied; each devours his neighbor's
flesh" (Isa. 9:20 RSV)
"you shall eat the offspring of your own body, the flesh of your sons
and daughters ... The man who is the most tender and delicately bred
among you will grudge food to his brother, to the wife of his
bosom, ... so that he will not give to any of them any of the flesh of
his children whom he is eating ... The most tender and delicately bred
woman among you...will grudge to the husband of her bosom...her
children whom she bears, because she will eat them
secretly,..." (Deut. 28:53-57 RSV).
"Who hate the good, and love the evil; who pluck off their skin from
off them, and their flesh from off their bones;
Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off
them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the
pot, and as flesh within the caldron. (Mica 3:2-3)
In addition, there are statements by Jesus which some Christians have
chosen to spiritualize, while others interpret them literally:
"Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of
man, and drink his blood, ye shall have no life in you. Whoso eateth
my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise
him up at the last day" (John 6:53-54)
"as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it and broke it,
and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take eat; this is my body. And
he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink
ye all of it; For this is my blood..." (Matt. 26:26-28, Luke 22:19-20,
Mark 14:22-24, 1 Cor.
11:24-26)
"He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me and I
in him.... So he that eateth me, even he shall live by me" (John
6:56-57).
"I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice,
saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and
gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; That ye
may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh
of mighty men.--Rev.19:17-18
GEE! All this cannibalism is sick!
It makes you want to become a Buddhist. |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:26 pm Post subject: Funeral Ascension of Hyo Jin Nim and Seunghwa Ceremony - Rev |
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From: Gordon <gordonmuir2003goo...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 11:29:21 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Mar 22 2008 6:29 pm
Subject: Funeral Ascension of Hyo Jin Nim and Seunghwa Ceremony -
Rev.Moon son Hyo Jin Moon has died of heart attack
Ascension of Hyo Jin Nim and Seunghwa Ceremony - Rev.Moon son Hyo Jin
Moon has died of heart attack
http://www.familyfed.org/board/uboard.asp?id=ffwpu_news&skin=board_hq_v20E&color=Gray&code=&page=1&page_num=&order1=u_no&order2=desc&u_no=2360
Official Memo: Ascension of Hyo Jin Moon
http://www.familyfed.org/board/uboard.asp?id=announcements2007&skin=board_hq_v20E&color=Gray&code=&page=1&page_num=&order1=u_no&order2=desc&u_no=673
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hyo_Jin_Moon
http://www.unification.net/hyojinmoon/HyoJinNimAscension_20080317.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nan_sook_hong
Nansook Hong had divorced Hyo Jin Moon who then
married Yun Ah.
http://home.att.net/~newlineage/hyojin.htm
http://www.familyfed.org/board/uboard.asp?id=tp_news&u_no=739
Birthday Celebrations for Hyo Jin Nim's Children -
Shin Chul Nim's 6th & Shin Soon Nim's 1st
http://www.ffwpu.asn.au/moonfamily/hyojinmoon/index.htm#bio
In Memory of Hyo Jin Moon.
http://familyfed.org Moonies FFWPU,main website.
http://www.trueloveking.net Rev.Moon with George W.
Bush.
http://www.reverendsunmyungmoon.org/works_sports.html
Rev.Moon with famous football player Pele.
http://kathryncoman.home.att.net/dayinfo/12-1spirit.htm
Rev.Moon married Jesus on January 3,1971 but no
spiritualists outside of the moonies have confirmed
this.
http://kathryncoman.home.att.net/annual/2008.htm
kathryn coman homepage annual calender 2008.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BlessedCommunityAssociation-Mindanao/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BlessedCommunityAssociation-Mindanao/me...
Heung Jin Nim - Satan is the master of lies.
THE PROBLEM WITH THE MOONIES IS there organisation is
full of liars,decievers,misleaders and they dont seem
to associate there lying with Satan and they never
apologies when they mess up someones life with lies
and deception which is VERY CONTRADICTORY CONFUSING
BEHAVIOUR,which is sad because if it was not for the
liars,decievers,misleaders the legitimate side of the
moonies could of done great things for the world by
now. - comment by me Gordon Muir.
http://www.ffwpui.org/SW
Heung Jim Nim is Rev.Moons son who died in 1984 who
Rev.Moon says is the commander in chief of the entire
spirit world but no spiritualists outside of the
moonies have confirmed this.
http://www.geocities.com/craigmaxim/s-2a.html
Heung Jin Nim posseses black Africans body.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heung_Jin_Moon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Heung_Jin_Nim
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=118038&title=moon-units
TV Video,The Daily Show - Rev.Moon Senate Crowning.
Rev.Moon announcing that he is the Messiah,Returning
Lord and True Parent of all humankind.
http://www.iapprovethismessiah.com/2004/06/this-really-happened-at-senate-office.html
This really happened at the Senate office
building,Rev.Moon being crowned attended by
congressmen and religious leaders.
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Sun_Myung_Moon |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:25 pm Post subject: Re: Funeral Ascension of Hyo Jin Nim and Seunghwa Ceremony - |
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On Mar 24, 11:26 am, Gordon <gordonmuir2003goo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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From: Gordon <gordonmuir2003goo...@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 11:29:21 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Mar 22 2008 6:29 pm
Subject: Funeral Ascension of Hyo Jin Nim and Seunghwa Ceremony -
Rev.Moon son Hyo Jin Moon has died of heart attack
Ascension of Hyo Jin Nim and Seunghwa Ceremony - Rev.Moon son Hyo Jin
Moon has died of heart attackhttp://www.familyfed.org/board/uboard.asp?id=ffwpu_news&skin=board_hq...
Official Memo: Ascension of Hyo Jin Moonhttp://www.familyfed.org/board/uboard.asp?id=announcements2007&skin=b...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hyo_Jin_Moon
http://www.unification.net/hyojinmoon/HyoJinNimAscension_20080317.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nan_sook_hong
Nansook Hong had divorced Hyo Jin Moon who then
married Yun Ah.http://home.att.net/~newlineage/hyojin.htm
http://www.familyfed.org/board/uboard.asp?id=tp_news&u_no=739
Birthday Celebrations for Hyo Jin Nim's Children -
Shin Chul Nim's 6th & Shin Soon Nim's 1st
http://www.ffwpu.asn.au/moonfamily/hyojinmoon/index.htm#bio
In Memory of Hyo Jin Moon.
http://familyfed.org Moonies FFWPU,main website.http://www.trueloveking.netRev.Moon with George W.
Bush.http://www.reverendsunmyungmoon.org/works_sports.html
Rev.Moon with famous football player Pele.
http://kathryncoman.home.att.net/dayinfo/12-1spirit.htm
Rev.Moon married Jesus on January 3,1971 but no
spiritualists outside of the moonies have confirmed
this.
http://kathryncoman.home.att.net/annual/2008.htm
kathryn coman homepage annual calender 2008.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BlessedCommunityAssociation-Mindanao/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BlessedCommunityAssociation-Mindanao/me...
Heung Jin Nim - Satan is the master of lies.
THE PROBLEM WITH THE MOONIES IS there organisation is
full of liars,decievers,misleaders and they dont seem
to associate there lying with Satan and they never
apologies when they mess up someones life with lies
and deception which is VERY CONTRADICTORY CONFUSING
BEHAVIOUR,which is sad because if it was not for the
liars,decievers,misleaders the legitimate side of the
moonies could of done great things for the world by
now. - comment by me Gordon Muir.
http://www.ffwpui.org/SW
Heung Jim Nim is Rev.Moons son who died in 1984 who
Rev.Moon says is the commander in chief of the entire
spirit world but no spiritualists outside of the
moonies have confirmed this.
http://www.geocities.com/craigmaxim/s-2a.html
Heung Jin Nim posseses black Africans body.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heung_Jin_Moonhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Heung_Jin_Nim
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=118038&title=mo...
TV Video,The Daily Show - Rev.Moon Senate Crowning.
Rev.Moon announcing that he is the Messiah,Returning
Lord and True Parent of all humankind.
http://www.iapprovethismessiah.com/2004/06/this-really-happened-at-se...
This really happened at the Senate office
building,Rev.Moon being crowned attended by
congressmen and religious leaders.
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Sun_Myung_Moon
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It's all just an illusion. Sun Myung Moon is a Master of Illusion.
Peace be with you..
They call me Bruce |
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On Mar 24, 6:53 am, chemist <tom-bol...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
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| Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:51 am Post subject: Re: Jesus WAS the Last Supper |
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Was Jesus ritually sacrificed by a primitive cannibal cult and who
after
having killed off his original movement, then went on to form Roman
Christianity from which today's churches are spiritual extensions off?
There is compelling evidence that the man who was thought to be Jesus
did
not die on a cross but died like a lamb to slaughter in an horrific
death
by
human sacrifice at the hands of a fanatical religious fundamentalist
blood
cult, who not only drank his blood and ate his vital body parts, but
went
on
to become the foundations of Christianity.
The foundations and dogma of Christianity was manufactured by this
same
group led by the first anti-Christ, St. Paul. St. Paul played a
dominant
hand in this abhorrent original act of ritual cannibalism, not only in
Jesus'
betrayal and death, but in the violent genocide of the first groups
who
had
been loyal to Jesus and given him shelter. The teachings of Jesus were
plagiarised by this violent fanatical blood cult, who went on to
overlay
their own primitive pagan religious traditions over his teachings, out
of
which Christianity was eventually officially nationalised around the
period
that the tyrant Roman Emperor Constantine officiated the Council of
Nicea
325AD.
The Romans accused the early gentile Christians of cannibalism,
because
there were. And this abhorrent practice even continues today. Ritual
cannibalism is practiced symbolically in the "mass" and "holy
communion"
of
the Roman Catholic Church.
The gospels in today's bible only contain a fraction of what Jesus
said,
as
most of his beliefs are buried behind primitive religious pagan
mythology,
these orchestrated by a myriad of copyists and scribes aligned to the
Roman
Christian Catholic Church of the old Roman Empire. Church dogma such
as
baptism, holy communion or subtranstantiation, virgin births,
resurrection,
crucifiction, 12 apostles, miracles, blood as a sacrament, human
sacrifice,
god-kings as creators, heaven and earth, royal bloodlines, satan and
the
devil, claims of godhead, fixed wing angels, atonement, the rapture,
the
trinity and purgatory, demon possession, adam and eve, are all models
that
were plagiarised from a plethora of pagan myths from cults which
existed
before the times of Jesus. The Gospels are a collection of sayings by
Jesus
and others, who have been rewritten over a period of time into
classical
pagan storylines using models of theology or doctrine from many
primitive
saviour cults of antiquity such as Mithras, most of which was never
supported by Jesus anyway.
Through enacting certain spiritual knowledge one may remove the layers
of
ritual misinformation in the gospels to unearth the truth behind the
original story of Christ and the reformed hippie styled
Nazarene-Essene
movement that supported him.
Fortuitously, Jesus actually predicted all of the above.
These ideas are supported by: the Canonical Gospels and the account of
the
crucifiction, New and Old Testament, biblical prophesy, the book of
revelations, Jewish- Roman and western history, by anthropology and
archaeology, by Christian doctrine- its pageantry and religious
rituals,
from the blood soaked writings of the "early church fathers", by the
behavioural history of the ancient popes and saints, by the history of
primitive religions and prehistoric cultures, known symbols from the
very
first Christians and by new theories on how "reincarnation and cosmic
memory" enable the tracking of the evolution of the soul .
"Father forgive them for they now not what they do"
WATCH THIS SPACE
Peter Terry
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Why do Christians chow down on Jesus Christ. They eat him and drink
his blood.
Ritual cannibalism is a primitive conceptual view of ones spirituality,
which came out of the minds of stone-age people who were without any
sciences to assist them understand the meaning of life. This lack of
intellect heralded the advent of all pagan cultures of the world
worshiping
the sun as a god, when they realised its significance to survival and
the
growing of crops. It was also why the primitives elevated blood as a
"holy
sacrament" when they realised that when a person was wounded and blood
flowed and he died- they incorrectly deduced from this experience that
blood
must be the godly basis of life force, thus it was worshiped
accordingly.
The Christian name ritual cannibalism is the religious experience of
transubstantiation. The historian Durant said that transubstantiation or
ritual human sacrifice is as old as civilization itself. In fact at some
point in history every culture of the world partook in human sacrifice
or
various derivatives of it. Even today in South Pacific, Papua New
Guinea
some people eat their victims to acquire their power. This practice is
also
partaken in Africa as we speak. "The mindless conclusion to this
thinking is
that to eat the flesh and to drink the blood of one who is considered
powerful, godly or a king, then their power or wisdom will be
transferred to
the sacrificers." As intelligence evolved and the people in the world
became
more civilised and the early Pauline Christians could no longer get away
with eating their religious victims, which they did secretly in the
Catacombs and caves of Rome and the empire, these archaic practices
became
symbolic rather than practical. Thus was manufactured the practice of
transubstantiation where wine replaced the blood of Jesus and bread his
body. In this manner Jesus himself could be feasted upon by the whole
Christian congregation. This new application of a bloodless Eucharist
format enabled the Catholic Church to come out of the closet and to stop
Christians from killing people so that they could then drink their blood
and
feast upon their bodies. Hence the early Roman version of the religion
was
more palatable and easier to sell to a Roman-gentile audience.
In the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox systems, Holy Communion or
Eucharist,
to celebrate Jesus' human sacrifice some 2000 years ago, is symbolically
partaken in the form of bread or a wafer. Holy Communion is distributed
by
the officiating priest after the re-enactment of Jesus' violent slaying
in
Voodoo or black magic styled pageant called the Mass. Here the priest
performs hocus-pocus and deludes the congregation into believing that
he's
changed wine and bread into Jesus' blood and body. Tradionally at
communion
time, only the priest gets to drink the blood of Jesus while the rest of
the
congregation is given his body to eat. This reflects the 2000 year
event,
when the man thought to be Jesus was ritually cannibalised and only the
few
officiating high priests (Popes or Pater Patrums, inner circle) were
sufficiently privileged to drink his warm blood. The next hierarchical
level equivalent to Priests and Bishops eat his vital body parts while
the
rest of his body was divvied up amongst the lay followers, boiled in big
pots and shared amongst the large congregation of the sect. Mithras
followers the world over, like the Catholic Church, have a three tiered
hierarchy of a pope (Pater Partum), bishops and priests.
PeterT
Can I play too?
"And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your
daughters shall ye eat" (Lev. 26:29)
"I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of
their daughters, and they shall eat every one the flesh of his
friend...." (Jer. 19:9)
"I will make your oppressors eat their own flesh, and they shall be
drunk with their own blood as with wine" (Isa. 49:26 RSV)
"Therefore fathers shall eat their sons in the midst of you, and sons
shall eat their fathers..." (Ezek. 5:10).
"So we boiled my son, and ate him. And on the next day I said to her,
`Give your son, that we may eat him.' but she has hidden her son" (2
Kings 6:28-29 RSV)
"The hands of compassionate women have boiled their own children; they
became their food...." (Lam. 4:10 RSV)
"What is to die, let it die; what is to be destroyed, let it be
destroyed; and those that are left devour the flesh of one
another" (Zech. 11:9 RSV)
"They snatch of the right, but are still hungry, and they devour on
the left, but are not satisfied; each devours his neighbor's
flesh" (Isa. 9:20 RSV)
"you shall eat the offspring of your own body, the flesh of your sons
and daughters ... The man who is the most tender and delicately bred
among you will grudge food to his brother, to the wife of his
bosom, ... so that he will not give to any of them any of the flesh of
his children whom he is eating ... The most tender and delicately bred
woman among you...will grudge to the husband of her bosom...her
children whom she bears, because she will eat them
secretly,..." (Deut. 28:53-57 RSV).
"Who hate the good, and love the evil; who pluck off their skin from
off them, and their flesh from off their bones;
Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off
them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the
pot, and as flesh within the caldron. (Mica 3:2-3)
In addition, there are statements by Jesus which some Christians have
chosen to spiritualize, while others interpret them literally:
"Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of
man, and drink his blood, ye shall have no life in you. ...
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If there are no God in Buddhism, why is Buddha
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effigies
with supporting classical pagan dogmas, yet Christians worship a
Mithriac-Jesus
styled image of a lamenting freak on a cross.
Christ who was never a Christian of the false Roman type, rejects
Christianity!
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Gordon wrote:
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On Mar 22, 6:36 pm, Gordon <gordonmuir2003goo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
REV.MOON CLAIMS TO BE THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST.
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