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Trees-Dogs-Beasts-Fowls-Idols (16)
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 8:26 am    Post subject: Trees-Dogs-Beasts-Fowls-Idols (16) Reply with quote

With this, the problem simply goes away. It does not exist
any more, because it would make it possible for another
humanoid to exist at the same time as Adam and Eve. This
would also make it possible for someone to appear before Eve
and not frighten her away. Because she has seen him before,
and has probably talked to him before. It would not be a
mystery to her, it would be no surprise either.

(43) Suppose that Adam and Eve were the only two people in
the whole world and Eve walks around a tree and there is
someone there. And it's not Adam! What is she going to do.
She is going to scream for Adam and tell him; Adam you are
not going to believe what I have found. She would be
concerned. No matter what it was, unless it was someone she
had seen before.

(44) Now if we assume that the serpent is another humanoid
and not a snake, then the problem goes away. Because the
other races of the world can walk, talk, think, reason and
have wisdom.

The only thing left is what does the word "subtil" mean.
Once again let's turn to Strong's Concordance for an
explanation. It is #6175 "aruwm" or "aw-room" and means:
cunning (usually in a bad sense), crafty, prudent, subtil.
This word "aruwm" has been translated only one time as
subtil (Genesis 3:1) and the other ten times it has been
translated as crafty or prudent.

(45) Webster's gives a little different spelling, it spells
"subtil" as "subtle" and gives the following definitions:

(1) Thin, rare; tenuous; not dense or heavy [a subtle gas].

(2) a) Capable of making or noticing fine distinctions in
meaning, etc. [a subtle thinker].

b) Marked by or requiring mental keenness [subtle
reasoning].

(3) Delicately skillful or clever; deft or ingenious [a
subtle filigree].

(4) Not open or direct; crafty; sly.

(5) Delicately suggestive; not grossly obvious [a subtle
hint].

(6) Working insidiously; not easily detected [a subtle
poison]. (New World Dictionary of the American
Language, Second College Edition, p. 1420-21)

(46) Webster's 1828 Christian Dictionary gives the
following:

(1) Thin; not dense or gross; as subtil air; subtil vapor;
a subtil medium.

(2) Nice; fine; delicate. "I do distinguish plain Each
subtil line of her immortal face."

(3) Acute; piercing; as subtil pain.

(4) Sly; artful; cunning; crafty; insinuating; as a subtil
person; a subtil ADVERSARY.

(5) Planned by art; deceitful; as a subtil scheme.

(6) Deceitful; treacherous.

(7) Refined; fine, acute; as a subtil argument.

(47) Had Eve come into an adversary situation. You bet your
boots she did. She had met with a wise adversary; a
deceitful and treacherous adversary.


Genesis 3:14: "And the LORD God said unto the serpent,
Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all
cattle, and above every BEAST of the field; upon thy belly
shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy
life."

If this had been a snake, why would God have cursed it? A
woman would never have let a literal snake have sex with
her, and how would it do it in the first place. For a snake
does not have a penis in which the penetrate a woman with.
No this "serpent" was another human being or an angel.

Genesis 6:5-7: "And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was
great in the earth, and that every imagination of the
thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it
repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it
grieved him at his heart. And the LORD said, I will destroy
man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both
man, and BEAST, and the creeping thing, and the FOWLS of the
air; for it repenteth me that I have made them."

No matter how angry God got at humankind there would be no
reason, nor would He have destroyed all the four footed
animals. No the "Beasts" and "Fowls" were people who could
sin, not an animal who could not.

Genesis 7:2: "Of every clean BEAST thou shalt take to thee
by sevens, the male and his female: and of BEASTS that are
not clean by two, the male and his female."

Genesis 7:14: "They, and every BEAST after his kind, and
all the cattle after their kind, and every creeping thing
that creepeth upon the earth after his kind, and every FOWL
after his kind, every bird of every sort."

Why would God tell us that every FOWL after his kind, and
then say it a second time "every bird of every sort?" This
is silly, therefore, one can use his/her common sense to see
that this is speaking of "FOWL" as people, another race, and
then points to the birds in the air.

Genesis 7:21-23: "And all flesh died that moved upon the
earth, both of FOWL, and of cattle, and of BEAST, and of
every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every
man: All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all
that was in the dry land, died. And every living substance
was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both
man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the FOWL of
the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah
only remained alive, and they that were with him in the
ark."

Now we know for certain that the flood did not cover the
entire planet earth, but was confined to a limited area in
scope, therefore, for the "Beasts" and "Fowls" to be
destroyed they had to be people, because the "Fowls" would
simply have flown to safety, and the "Beasts" would have
fled, because of their natural instincts to a safe place.
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