TOS
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 Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2003 6:05 am Post subject: Truth or Fiction Paul |
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The Problem with Paul
What would the mythological Jesus think of Paul?
We must remember Jesus would have never met or knew Paul, the
disciples Peter, James, and John left not a single writing or text on
how Jesus would have seemed to them or even what mission he would have
been on for God.
Remember Paul in his fluent and articulate writings claimed that his
writings came only from inspiration, and he even went as far as
claiming he had a personal relationship with the resurrected Jesus,
when the fact that amazes this Satanist is that he never once in his
lifetime would have ever met Jesus.
A vivid story told by visions?
Probably more like an attempt to gain control of the Christian World
by proclaiming himself some form of direct connection or prophet to
Jesus Christ, or perhaps it was another attempt to regain his
"superhero status" earlier told in the book of Acts.
Examining the "fairy tale" New Testament this Satanist has found that
Paul appears frequently and is always described as an incredible man,
however one can only look upon the historical timeline to see Paul's
letters which comprise much of the text's of the new Testament are
claimed to be written in A.D. 50-60 while the entire set of Gospels
didn't appear until sometime around 110 A.D.
Examining this even further one can only rationalize that the theories
of Paul colorized the Gospels to his liking.
The Gospels are often shadowy figures who are given little in the way
of personality and often portrayed as ignorant or unintelligent except
in the presence of Jesus.
Who then is this Paul the creator of the "fairy tale" New Testament?
Paul does write some autobiographical material however this seems
almost as confusing as his original letters.
It appears in my opinion and others that Paul is the same person as
Saul in Acts, and his birthplace was Tarsus a city far from Jerusalem
or Nazareth in Asia Minor, however his birthplace named in (Acts 9:
11, and 21: 39 and 22:3) is never written about in his letters, he
boasted of being taught by Pharisee teachers and being from the Tribe
of Benjamin (Romans 11:2) when in reality being a Pharisee from Tarsus
would be like being a Satanist in a Baptist Community, hardly a chance
to find a local priest to teach you heritage and ideologies, so far
from Israel.
This story of origin goes way deep and even the tale of Paul or Saul
on the Road to Damascus goes even further in explaining the lies told
by Christianity, however this is merely a bit of what will appear in
the upcoming New World Satanic Bible.
Much awaited and for good cause, the content has been skewed to be
more Dark and understandable for those who are truly not interested in
"Commercial Satanism" ala
Church of Satan but more "Left Hand" in its teachings writings a
return to Satanism's Roots as the original Temples of Satan would have
been.
Hail Thyself
Grand Magister Blackwood
Temples of Satan Founder |
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Krag
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| Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 5:18 am Post subject: Re: Truth or Fiction Paul |
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TOS wrote in message ...
| Quote: | The Problem with Paul
What would the mythological Jesus think of Paul?
We must remember Jesus would have never met or knew Paul, the
disciples Peter, James, and John left not a single writing or text on
how Jesus would have seemed to them or even what mission he would have
been on for God.
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Krag: Wrong. And it depends on what texts you're reading. A number of texts
in the Nag Hammadi corpus are attributed to Peter, Paul, James, and John.
John wrote an NT gospel and is generally referred to as "The disciple whom
Jesus loved" (although this might have been Mary Magdalene -- not a
disciple) This gospe, contray to your claim, gives plenty of clues as to how
he viewd Jesus. John may also have written the canonical book of Revelation
and may have been a member of the Qumran community
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Remember Paul in his fluent and articulate writings claimed that his
writings came only from inspiration, and he even went as far as
claiming he had a personal relationship with the resurrected Jesus,
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Krag: references, please?. The personal realtionship was with the 'presence'
of Christ, not a dead guy
| Quote: | when the fact that amazes this Satanist is that he never once in his
lifetime would have ever met Jesus.
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Krag: Paul placed no emphasis on the crucified Jesus, only on the
resurrected *Christ*. There is also evidence that Paul understood the
'resurrection" in a gnostic sense. A passage in Ephesians (6:12) mentions
archons (in the original Greek translation) and these are evidenced in the
Gnostic scriptures, some of which pre-date the canonical gospels and paint a
decidely different picture of Christianity
| Quote: |
A vivid story told by visions?
Probably more like an attempt to gain control of the Christian World
by proclaiming himself some form of direct connection or prophet to
Jesus Christ, or perhaps it was another attempt to regain his
"superhero status" earlier told in the book of Acts.
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Krag: I always felt peter was more the 'super-hero' in Acts
| Quote: | Examining the "fairy tale" New Testament this Satanist has found that
Paul appears frequently and is always described as an incredible man,
however one can only look upon the historical timeline to see Paul's
letters which comprise much of the text's of the new Testament are
claimed to be written in A.D. 50-60 while the entire set of Gospels
didn't appear until sometime around 110 A.D.
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Krag: Mathew is now dated at about 50AD--70AD and the others have varied
datings. None of this matters of course.
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Examining this even further one can only rationalize that the theories
of Paul colorized the Gospels to his liking.
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Krag: Paul had nothing to with the gospels. And what's more, some of the
pastoral letters were probably fabricated by the Church father Tertullian in
order to denounce certain *heresies* that Paul may have been sympathetic to
| Quote: | The Gospels are often shadowy figures who are given little in the way
of personality and often portrayed as ignorant or unintelligent except
in the presence of Jesus.
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Krag: By gosples, I assume you mean 'disciples'.
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Who then is this Paul the creator of the "fairy tale" New Testament?
Paul does write some autobiographical material however this seems
almost as confusing as his original letters.
It appears in my opinion and others that Paul is the same person as
Saul in Acts,
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Krag: Saul is aramaic for Paul. Pronounced Shhall
and his birthplace was Tarsus a city far from Jerusalem
| Quote: | or Nazareth in Asia Minor,
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Krag: Nazareth didn't exist in Jesus' time. In the Gosple of Phillip, Jesus
is called either the "nazarene" (a religious sect) or the "nasorean" which
means "initiate" (into the mysteries)
however his birthplace named in (Acts 9:
| Quote: | 11, and 21: 39 and 22:3) is never written about in his letters, he
boasted of being taught by Pharisee teachers and being from the Tribe
of Benjamin (Romans 11:2) when in reality being a Pharisee from Tarsus
would be like being a Satanist in a Baptist Community, hardly a chance
to find a local priest to teach you heritage and ideologies, so far
from Israel.
This story of origin goes way deep and even the tale of Paul or Saul
on the Road to Damascus goes even further in explaining the lies told
by Christianity,
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Krag: The "road to Damascus" is a mystical reference. The first man "Adamas"
(compare ADAMAScus) is something I won't go into here. It had to do with the
essenes, the qumran community
however this is merely a bit of what will appear in
| Quote: | the upcoming New World Satanic Bible.
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Krag: do some throrough research before you type a single word. Christianity
is a little different than you've been lead to believe
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